History YMMV / BloodC

17th Jan '17 7:04:56 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* ScapegoatCreator: CLAMP gets usually blamed by ''Blood'' franchise fans for tainting the series's plot with their characteristically controversial writing shenanigans. It got worse when it was leaked that Junichi Fujisaku, one of the pioneers of the saga, worked in ''Blood C'' only to direct the fight scenes, thus allegedly limiting his chances of getting the series right. However, it turned out in an [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2011-09-01/blood-c-tsutomu-mizushima-and-junichi-fujisaku/2 ANN interview]] that, while he certainly wasn't in charge of the screenplay, the series's story was outlined by himself before CLAMP was involved, and more specifically, that the bizarre ''Blood'' reinventing of the show was '''his''' own idea. It's very telling that Junichi Fujisaku is again in charge of the screenplay of the 2015 stage play and 2017 live action movie while CLAMP are only credited as original co-creators.

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* ScapegoatCreator: CLAMP Creator/{{CLAMP}} gets usually blamed by ''Blood'' franchise fans for tainting the series's plot with their characteristically controversial writing shenanigans. It got worse when it was leaked that Junichi Fujisaku, one of the pioneers of the saga, worked in ''Blood C'' only to direct the fight scenes, thus allegedly limiting his chances of getting the series right. However, it turned out in an [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2011-09-01/blood-c-tsutomu-mizushima-and-junichi-fujisaku/2 ANN interview]] that, while he certainly wasn't in charge of the screenplay, the series's story was outlined by himself before CLAMP was involved, and more specifically, that the bizarre ''Blood'' reinventing of the show was '''his''' own idea. It's very telling that Junichi Fujisaku is again in charge of the screenplay of the 2015 stage play and 2017 live action movie while CLAMP are only credited as original co-creators.
13th Jan '17 2:07:23 PM RagingHigher
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** Though most of the characters are [[spoiler:hired by Fumito to act as Saya's "friends"]], the biggest one is Tadayoshi, who happens to [[spoiler:half-human, half-Elder Bairn]]. It would be interesting how much he has been under Fumito before the events of the TV series. [[spoiler:Only those who have read ''Blood-C: Demonic Moonlight'' would know what he is before he worked with Fumito.]]

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** Though most of the characters are [[spoiler:hired by Fumito to act as Saya's "friends"]], the biggest one is Tadayoshi, who happens to [[spoiler:half-human, half-Elder Bairn]]. It would be interesting how much he has been under Fumito [[spoiler:Fumito]] before the events of the TV series. [[spoiler:Only Only those who have read ''Blood-C: Demonic Moonlight'' would know what he is before he worked with Fumito.[[spoiler:Fumito.]]



** Many people believe that, if they were to put [[spoiler:Kimihiro Watanuki]] on this story, they could have used him for infinitely more than just giving cryptic hints from the sidelines [[spoiler:in a dog's shape.]]
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[spoiler:With the revelation that it's a TrumanShowPlot with Fumito as the mastermind, viewers believe that the writers could have, at least, shown the "behind the scenes" of the experiment instead of Saya's POV just to make it more interesting and to avoid dragging the important PlotTwist in an UnTwist]].

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** Many people Pretty much everybody from the CLAMP fandom and out of it believe that, if they were wanted to put [[spoiler:Kimihiro Watanuki]] on this story, they could have used him for infinitely more things than just giving cryptic hints from the sidelines [[spoiler:in a dog's shape.]]
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: [[spoiler:With the revelation
shape,]] specially given that it's a TrumanShowPlot with Fumito as those hints are never cleared up.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** While
the mastermind, majority of the viewers and critcs agreed that the series's exposition, characterization and pacing were a mess, most of them also thought that the premise of a [[spoiler:TrumanShowPlot mixing a version of the Saya characters with ancient monsters and mysterious conspiracies]] was, if not a genuinely interesting take on the ''Blood'' saga, at least quite appealing on its own right, and would have wished it to be better played.
** The flashbacks in Episode 1 and 11 that referenced ''The Last Vampire'' opened the door to a connection between the film and ''Blood C'', but the concept was never exploited further and was left as just a StealthSequel implication on the fly. Some people
believe that making it clear, and showing it explicitly, would have made a very strong story. The question of what in the writers could have, at least, shown heaven would David and the "behind the scenes" of the experiment instead of Saya's POV just to make it more interesting and to avoid dragging the important PlotTwist Red Triangle doing while their operative was being imprisoned [[spoiler:and brainwashed]] by unknown forces in an UnTwist]].a Japanese village is a particularly pretty point.
13th Jan '17 1:33:18 PM RagingHigher
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* InkStainAdaptation: Though the show is not an adaptation but an original work, it left a sour taste to a lot of viewers due to the slow pacing and the hardcore violence and gore. Because of this perception, many donít even bother to watch the movie or the stage play and are not interested in seeing the upcoming live-action movie.



* SoBadItsGood: Even its detractors consider the series still fairly entertaining for being so soundly misguided from how they believe an adaptation of ''Anime/BloodTheLastVampire'' should be.

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* SoBadItsGood: Even its detractors consider the series still fairly entertaining for being so characteristically quirky and so soundly misguided from how they believe an adaptation of ''Anime/BloodTheLastVampire'' should be. be.



* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Majority of the viewers felt that the StrictlyFormula plot (Saya goes to school, meets and eats with her classmates and kills some Elder Bairns at night etc.) of the first half is a waste of time and several suggested to skip episodes 2-4 as it's always the same thing. [[spoiler:And with the revelation that it's a TrumanShowPlot with Fumito as the mastermind, viewers believe that the writers could have, at least, shown the "behind the scenes" of the experiment instead of Saya's POV just to make it more interesting and to avoid dragging the important PlotTwist in an UnTwist]].

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: Majority of the viewers felt that the StrictlyFormula plot (Saya goes to school, meets and eats with her classmates and kills some Elder Bairns at night etc.) of the first half is a waste of time and several suggested to skip episodes 2-4 as it's always the same thing. [[spoiler:And with [[spoiler:With the revelation that it's a TrumanShowPlot with Fumito as the mastermind, viewers believe that the writers could have, at least, shown the "behind the scenes" of the experiment instead of Saya's POV just to make it more interesting and to avoid dragging the important PlotTwist in an UnTwist]].
11th Jan '17 7:56:20 PM sayaleviathan
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* HypeBacklash: Prior to its first airing in 2011, many viewers including ''Blood +'' fans and CLAMP fans alike were very excited about it. But after the show ended, several viewers already dropped the show and felt that it failed to reach their expectations.
* InkStainAdaptation: Though the show is not an adaptation but an original work, it left a sour taste to a lot of viewers due to the slow pacing and the hardcore violence and gore. Because of this perception, many donít even bother to watch the movie or the stage play and are not interested in seeing the upcoming live-action movie.



* ScapegoatCreator: CLAMP gets usually blamed by ''Blood'' franchise fans for tainting the series's plot with their characteristically controversial writing shenanigans. It got worse when it was leaked that Junichi Fujisaku, one of the pioneers of the saga, worked in ''Blood C'' only to direct the fight scenes, thus allegedly limiting his chances of getting the series right. However, it turned out in an [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2011-09-01/blood-c-tsutomu-mizushima-and-junichi-fujisaku/2 ANN interview]] that, while he certainly wasn't in charge of the screenplay, the series's story was outlined by himself before CLAMP was involved, and more specifically, that the bizarre ''Blood'' reinventing of the show was '''his''' own idea. It's very telling that Junichi Fujisaku is again in charge of the screenplay of the 2015 stage play and 2017 live action movie, which, not being animated productions, need no input by CLAMP.

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* ScapegoatCreator: CLAMP gets usually blamed by ''Blood'' franchise fans for tainting the series's plot with their characteristically controversial writing shenanigans. It got worse when it was leaked that Junichi Fujisaku, one of the pioneers of the saga, worked in ''Blood C'' only to direct the fight scenes, thus allegedly limiting his chances of getting the series right. However, it turned out in an [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2011-09-01/blood-c-tsutomu-mizushima-and-junichi-fujisaku/2 ANN interview]] that, while he certainly wasn't in charge of the screenplay, the series's story was outlined by himself before CLAMP was involved, and more specifically, that the bizarre ''Blood'' reinventing of the show was '''his''' own idea. It's very telling that Junichi Fujisaku is again in charge of the screenplay of the 2015 stage play and 2017 live action movie, which, not being animated productions, need no input by CLAMP.movie while CLAMP are only credited as original co-creators.
8th Jan '17 8:51:59 PM sayaleviathan
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* BetterOnDVD: You can watch the whole show in one sitting uncensored as long as you have the stomach to handle [[{{Gorn}} all the gory details]].

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* BetterOnDVD: You can watch the whole show in one sitting uncensored as long as you have the stomach to handle [[{{Gorn}} [[NightmareFuel all the gory details]].
8th Jan '17 8:51:23 PM sayaleviathan
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* BetterInDVD: You can watch the whole show in one sitting uncensored as long as you can handle [[{{Gorn}} all the gory details]].

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* BetterInDVD: BetterOnDVD: You can watch the whole show in one sitting uncensored as long as you can have the stomach to handle [[{{Gorn}} all the gory details]].
8th Jan '17 8:50:36 PM sayaleviathan
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* BetterInDVD: You can watch the whole show in one sitting uncensored as long as you can handle [[{{Gorn}} all the gory details]].
7th Jan '17 7:59:22 AM Cieloazul
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Saya. All things being what they are [[spoiler: there is a lot of room for debate as far as her personality is concerned. Fumito seems to believe that she doesn't really give a hoot about humans, theorizing that she made a pact with somebody in a distant past to never kill humans. That having been said, in the last episode of the Anime, she still does try to save her "friend" Kanako even after it was revealed that the woman only wanted to use Saya for her own benefit. Also she does stop the massacre of the town fairly quickly--even though by then it was too late. Also she sheds a single tear for her friends and enters a HeroicBSOD that lasts for days. And in the movie she has multiple PetTheDog moments with various characters, though they are subtle and downplayed.]]

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Saya. All things being what they are [[spoiler: there is a lot of room for debate as far as her personality is concerned. Fumito seems to believe that she doesn't really give a hoot about humans, theorizing that she made a pact with somebody in a distant past to never kill humans. That having been said, in the last episode of the Anime, anime, she still does try to save her "friend" Kanako even after it was revealed that the woman only wanted to use Saya for her own benefit. Also she does stop the massacre of the town fairly quickly--even though by then it was too late. Also she sheds a single tear for her friends and enters a HeroicBSOD that lasts for days. And in the movie she has multiple PetTheDog moments with various characters, though they are subtle and downplayed.]]



* AwesomeMusic: The opening, [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewvAGAluWC4 "Spiral"]] by Dustz, as well as the ending, "Junketsu Paradox" by Nana Mizuki.



** While CLAMP fans celebrated to see [[spoiler:Watanuki]] in this series (to the point it is often the only reason they watch it - see Just Here for Godzilla below), many believe that he feels shoehorned into ''Blood C'', as he does nothing for the plot, his desire with Saya ends up having no discernible weight, and his presence causes the series's setting to forcefully weld with [[spoiler:''Manga/{{xxxHOLiC}}'']], which is not an easy jive. This is reinforced for his apparition in the movie, in which all he does is giving Saya a new sword and looking important.

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** While CLAMP fans celebrated to see [[spoiler:Watanuki]] in this series (to the point it is often the only reason they watch it - see Just Here for Godzilla below), many believe that he feels shoehorned into ''Blood C'', as he does nothing for the plot, his desire with the wish he grants to Saya ends up having no discernible weight, and his presence causes the series's setting to forcefully weld with [[spoiler:''Manga/{{xxxHOLiC}}'']], which is not an easy jive. This is reinforced for his apparition in the movie, in which all he does is giving Saya a new sword and looking important.



* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Despite the show's mixed reputation, its soundtrack is still great all thanks to Naoki Sato. The best ones are [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i0zzngJgyM "Destiny"]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i0zzngJgyM "A Price For The Winner, A Punishment For The Loser"]]. The opening and ending themes, "Spiral" by Dustz and "Junketsu Paradox" by Nana Mizuki herself, also deserve a mention.

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* CrowningMusicOfAwesome: Despite the show's mixed reputation, its soundtrack is still great all thanks to Naoki Sato. The best ones are [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i0zzngJgyM "Destiny"]] and [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i0zzngJgyM "A Price For The Winner, A Punishment For The Loser"]]. The opening and ending themes, "Spiral" [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewvAGAluWC4 "Spiral"]] by Dustz and "Junketsu Paradox" by Nana Mizuki herself, also deserve a mention.



* {{Fanon}}: That the Elder Bairns are somehow related to (or, alternatively, ARE) the youkai from [[spoiler:Manga/{{xxxHOLiC}}]]. This is a common belief after learning of the connection among the two series.

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* {{Fanon}}: That the Elder Bairns are somehow related to (or, alternatively, ARE) the youkai from [[spoiler:Manga/{{xxxHOLiC}}]].[[spoiler:''Manga/{{xxxHOLiC}}'']]. This is a common belief after learning of the connection among the two series.



* ScapegoatCreator: CLAMP gets usually blamed by ''Blood'' franchise fans for tainting the series's plot with their characteristically controversial writing shenanigans. It got worse when it was leaked that Junichi Fujisaku, one of the pioneers of the saga, worked in ''Blood C'' only to direct the fight scenes, thus allegedly limiting his chances of getting the series right. Then it turned out in an [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2011-09-01/blood-c-tsutomu-mizushima-and-junichi-fujisaku/2 ANN interview]] that, while he certainly wasn't in charge of the screenplay, the series's story was outlined by himself before CLAMP, and more specifically, the controversial reinventing of the show was ''his'' own idea. Likewise,the director, Tsutomu Mizushima, got [[https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=328275 a lot of backlash from detractors]] for the execution of the show, particularly on the extreme violence. Also, CLAMP altogether tends to be blamed, when it was actually only Nanase Ohkawa who was in the writing table, while the rest is in charge of the art and character design.
** Though it's very telling that Junichi Fujisaku is in charge of the screenplay of the 2015 stage play which explained several storylines not answered in the TV series and the movie. In fact, he's also the screenwriter for the [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-01-06/blood-c-anime-gets-live-action-film-with-new-story-this-fall/.110712 upcoming 2017 live-action movie]] which is a prequel to the franchise. It's possible that ExecutiveMeddling is involved which might have led to the negative reception of the franchise and it could also explained why CLAMP is no longer involved in the production of the stage play and live-action film but they're credited as original character design and story.

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* ScapegoatCreator: CLAMP gets usually blamed by ''Blood'' franchise fans for tainting the series's plot with their characteristically controversial writing shenanigans. It got worse when it was leaked that Junichi Fujisaku, one of the pioneers of the saga, worked in ''Blood C'' only to direct the fight scenes, thus allegedly limiting his chances of getting the series right. Then However, it turned out in an [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interview/2011-09-01/blood-c-tsutomu-mizushima-and-junichi-fujisaku/2 ANN interview]] that, while he certainly wasn't in charge of the screenplay, the series's story was outlined by himself before CLAMP, CLAMP was involved, and more specifically, that the controversial bizarre ''Blood'' reinventing of the show was ''his'' '''his''' own idea. Likewise,the director, Tsutomu Mizushima, got [[https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=328275 a lot of backlash from detractors]] for the execution of the show, particularly on the extreme violence. Also, CLAMP altogether tends to be blamed, when it was actually only Nanase Ohkawa who was in the writing table, while the rest is in charge of the art and character design.
** Though it's
It's very telling that Junichi Fujisaku is again in charge of the screenplay of the 2015 stage play which explained several storylines not answered in the TV series and the movie. In fact, he's also the screenwriter for the [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-01-06/blood-c-anime-gets-live-action-film-with-new-story-this-fall/.110712 upcoming 2017 live-action movie]] which is a prequel to the franchise. It's possible that ExecutiveMeddling is involved which might have led to the negative reception of the franchise and it could also explained why CLAMP is live action movie, which, not being animated productions, need no longer involved in the production of the stage play and live-action film but they're credited as original character design and story.input by CLAMP.



* SuperlativeDubbing: The Spanish dub of the series was met with critical acclaim and was widely recognized as one of the best made in Spain in years. In special, Creator/CarmenCalvell's starring role as Saya turned the heads of everybody and was called one of the highlights of the dub.

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* SuperlativeDubbing: The Spanish dub of the series was met with critical acclaim and was widely recognized as one of the best made in Spain in years. In special, Creator/CarmenCalvell's starring role as Saya turned the heads of everybody and was called one of the highlights of the dub.show.
* SurprisinglyImprovedSequel: Both the movie and the 2015 stage play, specially the last one, which explained several storylines not answered in the anime or movie and was successful enough to grant an [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-01-06/blood-c-anime-gets-live-action-film-with-new-story-this-fall/.110712 upcoming 2017 live-action movie]] which is a prequel to the franchise.
6th Jan '17 8:08:18 PM sayaleviathan
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** The last two episodes really cause a more diverse respons,e where some think that it's brilliant while others think that CLAMP has gone too far with their trademark ComplexityAddiction.

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** The last two episodes really cause a more diverse respons,e response where some think that it's brilliant while others think that CLAMP has gone too far with their trademark ComplexityAddiction.



** Though it's very telling that Junichi Fujisaku is in charge of the screenplay of the 2015 stage play which explained several storylines not answered in the TV series and the movie. In fact, he's also the screenwriter for the [[https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-01-06/blood-c-anime-gets-live-action-film-with-new-story-this-fall/.110712 upcoming 2017 live-action movie]] which is a prequel to the franchise. It's possible that ExecutiveMeddling is involved which might have led to the negative reception of the franchise and it could also explained why CLAMP is no longer involved in the production of the stage play and live-action film but they're credited as original character design and story.



* ToughActToFollow: Given the cult success of ''Anime/BloodTheLastVampire'' and ''Anime/BloodPlus'', perhaps it's no wonder that ''Blood C'''s reception has been [[LoveItOrHateIt sadly mixed]] with the low BD/DVD sales. The TV movie, however, fared better than the TV series.

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* ToughActToFollow: Given the cult success of ''Anime/BloodTheLastVampire'' and ''Anime/BloodPlus'', perhaps it's no wonder that ''Blood C'''s reception has been [[LoveItOrHateIt sadly mixed]] with the low BD/DVD sales. The TV movie, however, fared better than the TV series. The stage play also received good reception which also led to a live-action film with the cast and staff from play returning.
31st Dec '16 9:48:22 PM variable21xx
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** Though most of the characters are [[spoiler:hired by Fumito to act as Saya's "friends"]], the biggest one is Tadayoshi, who happens to [[spoiler:half-human, half-Elder Bairn]]. It would be interesting how much he has been under Fumito before the events of the TV series. [[spoiler:Only those who have read ''Blood-C: Izayoi Kitan'' would know what he is before he worked with Fumito and sadly, that manga hasn't been licensed or scanlated yet.]]

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** Though most of the characters are [[spoiler:hired by Fumito to act as Saya's "friends"]], the biggest one is Tadayoshi, who happens to [[spoiler:half-human, half-Elder Bairn]]. It would be interesting how much he has been under Fumito before the events of the TV series. [[spoiler:Only those who have read ''Blood-C: Izayoi Kitan'' Demonic Moonlight'' would know what he is before he worked with Fumito and sadly, that manga hasn't been licensed or scanlated yet.Fumito.]]
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