History YMMV / BlackLagoon

11th Jul '16 10:41:33 PM randomguy399
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** Mr. Chang. It speaks volumes that BoisterousBruiser Revy is willing to acknowledge him as more {{Badass}}, admitting to "not being on his level yet." Fans also like him for being reasonable, uber-cool in the face of danger, and for being modeled after Chow Yun-Fat.
9th Jul '16 5:17:28 PM Anddrix
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* BaseBreaker:
** Yukio Washimine. While she's undeniably a BrokenBird for all the suffering she had to endure as the [[{{Ojou}} heiress to a yakuza clan]], some consider her to be a StrawNihilist who justified her unwilling (or possibly willing) ascension to the clan's leadership]] through [[StrawmanFallacy a flawed interpretation]] of fatalism. She was in fact, given every opportunity to absolve herself of the responsibility, but couldn't see beyond her own choices because she kept putting HonorBeforeReason first. Some people think that her outlook on life makes her character realistically flawed but interesting, while others see it as an irritating excuse to sympathize with a {{Wangst}}y teenage girl.

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BaseBreakingCharacter: Yukio Washimine. While she's undeniably a BrokenBird for all the suffering she had to endure as the [[{{Ojou}} heiress to a yakuza clan]], some consider her to be a StrawNihilist who justified her unwilling (or possibly willing) ascension to the clan's leadership]] through [[StrawmanFallacy a flawed interpretation]] of fatalism. She was in fact, given every opportunity to absolve herself of the responsibility, but couldn't see beyond her own choices because she kept putting HonorBeforeReason first. Some people think that her outlook on life makes her character realistically flawed but interesting, while others see it as an irritating excuse to sympathize with a {{Wangst}}y teenage girl.girl.
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8th May '16 5:05:07 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* CompleteMonster: In this CrapsackWorld, filled with terrible people, none manage to be quite as hateful (or fundamentally [[EvilIsPetty petty]]) as [[{{Jerkass}} Chaka]] from the "Fujiyama Gangster Paradise" arc. A {{Yakuza}} lieutenant with a penchant for DomesticAbuse, Chaka makes his [[EstablishingCharacterMoment entrance]] beating up Rock in an effort to impress Revy. When the battle between the Yakuza and the Russian mob goes badly for the Yakuza, Chaka kidnaps and [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown brutalizes]] Yukio, his boss's teenage daughter, [[WouldHurtAChild beating her bloody]], and planning to sell her to a sexual {{sadist}} as part of his plan to take control of the remnants of the Yakuza. When Revy and Ginji arrive to bail her out, Chaka [[BadBoss shoots through his own men to try and get at them]], kills another man for daring to try and run away, then [[{{Hypocrite}} runs away himself]], leaving his men to be massacred. [[PsychopathicManchild Childish]], {{stupid|Evil}}, and completely out of his depth, Chaka manages to make an impression only through his complete lack of conscience, [[{{Turncoat}} loyalty]], or human decency.

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* CompleteMonster: In this CrapsackWorld, filled with terrible people, none manage to be quite as hateful [[HateSink hateful]] (or fundamentally [[EvilIsPetty petty]]) as [[{{Jerkass}} Chaka]] from the "Fujiyama Gangster Paradise" arc. A {{Yakuza}} lieutenant with a penchant for DomesticAbuse, Chaka makes his [[EstablishingCharacterMoment entrance]] beating up Rock in an effort to impress Revy. When the battle between the Yakuza and the Russian mob goes badly for the Yakuza, Chaka kidnaps and [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown brutalizes]] Yukio, his boss's teenage daughter, [[WouldHurtAChild beating her bloody]], and planning to sell her to a sexual {{sadist}} as part of his plan to take control of the remnants of the Yakuza. When Revy and Ginji arrive to bail her out, Chaka [[BadBoss shoots through his own men to try and get at them]], kills another man for daring to try and run away, then [[{{Hypocrite}} runs away himself]], leaving his men to be massacred. [[PsychopathicManchild Childish]], {{stupid|Evil}}, and completely out of his depth, Chaka manages to make an impression only through his complete lack of conscience, [[{{Turncoat}} loyalty]], or human decency.


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3rd May '16 8:09:37 PM Miumia
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** Hansel and Grettel , you might hate them at first , but you view changes drastically with each bit of their backstory being told.

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** Hansel and Grettel , you Grettel. You might hate them for their sadism at first , first, but you your view changes drastically with each bit of their backstory being told.that is told. [[TearJerker And the end of their arc just seals it]].
24th Jan '16 1:49:36 PM RBluefish
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** And the men [[MrFanservice aren't]]? [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Mr. Chang]] is [[TallDarkAndSnarky hot]]. [[GuileHero Rock]] is [[TallDarkAndHandsome hot]]. [[TheCaptain Dutch]] is [[SleevesAreForWimps hot]]. [[PlayfulHacker Benny]] is [[NerdsAreSexy hot]]. Villainy apparently makes for very sexy bodies, but even [[MoralityPet Garcia]] is [[{{Lolicon}} adorable]].

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** And the men [[MrFanservice aren't]]? [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Mr. Chang]] is [[TallDarkAndSnarky hot]]. [[GuileHero Rock]] is [[TallDarkAndHandsome hot]]. [[TheCaptain Dutch]] is [[SleevesAreForWimps hot]]. [[PlayfulHacker Benny]] is [[NerdsAreSexy hot]]. Villainy apparently makes for very sexy bodies, but even [[MoralityPet Garcia]] is [[{{Lolicon}} adorable]].bodies.
22nd Jan '16 9:28:37 PM BelalDarkneSS
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** Hansel and Grettel , you might hate them at first , but you view changes drastically with each bit of their backstory being told.
4th Dec '15 8:53:08 PM Angeldeb82
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* ArcFatigue: The El Baile de la Muerte (a.k.a. Roberta's Blood Trail) arc. It lasted three and a half years and was comprised of so many {{plan}}s that even fans were getting confused and frustrated at the end. Even the author admitted the arc was dragging. Made worse by the fact that the series went into ''massive'' ScheduleSlip immediately after.

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* ArcFatigue: The El Baile de la Muerte (a.k.a. Roberta's Blood Trail) arc. It lasted three and a half years and was comprised of so many {{plan}}s [[ThePlan plans]] that even fans were getting confused and frustrated at the end. Even the author admitted the arc was dragging. Made worse by the fact that the series went into ''massive'' ScheduleSlip immediately after.



* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Just who ''is'' Eda, really? Is she a goofy so-called nun [[spoiler:who only occasionally who takes her job as a CIA agent seriously?]] Or is she really [[spoiler:a cold, domineering mastermind whose appearance to others is merely a convincing deception?]] Whatever it is, she's definitely not who she appears to be.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Just who ''is'' Eda, really? Is she a goofy so-called nun [[spoiler:who only occasionally who takes her job as a CIA agent seriously?]] seriously]]? Or is she really [[spoiler:a cold, domineering mastermind whose appearance to others is merely a convincing deception?]] deception]]? Whatever it is, she's definitely not who she appears to be.



* CompleteMonster: In this CrapsackWorld, filled with terrible people, none manage to be quite as hateful (or fundamentally [[EvilIsPetty petty]]) as [[JerkAss Chaka]] from the "Fujiyama Gangster Paradise" arc. A {{Yakuza}} lieutenant with a penchant for DomesticAbuse, Chaka makes his [[EstablishingCharacterMoment entrance]] beating up Rock in an effort to impress Revy. When the battle between the Yakuza and the Russian mob goes badly for the Yakuza, Chaka kidnaps and [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown brutalizes]] Yukio, his boss's teenage daughter, [[WouldHurtAChild beating her bloody]], and planning to sell her to a sexual {{sadist}} as part of his plan to take control of the remnants of the Yakuza. When Revy and Ginji arrive to bail her out, Chaka [[BadBoss shoots through his own men to try and get at them]], kills another man for daring to try and run away, then [[{{hypocrite}} runs away himself]], leaving his men to be massacred. [[PsychopathicManchild Childish]], {{stupid|Evil}}, and completely out of his depth, Chaka manages to make an impression only through his complete lack of conscience, [[{{Turncoat}} loyalty]], or human decency.

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* CompleteMonster: In this CrapsackWorld, filled with terrible people, none manage to be quite as hateful (or fundamentally [[EvilIsPetty petty]]) as [[JerkAss [[{{Jerkass}} Chaka]] from the "Fujiyama Gangster Paradise" arc. A {{Yakuza}} lieutenant with a penchant for DomesticAbuse, Chaka makes his [[EstablishingCharacterMoment entrance]] beating up Rock in an effort to impress Revy. When the battle between the Yakuza and the Russian mob goes badly for the Yakuza, Chaka kidnaps and [[NoHoldsBarredBeatdown brutalizes]] Yukio, his boss's teenage daughter, [[WouldHurtAChild beating her bloody]], and planning to sell her to a sexual {{sadist}} as part of his plan to take control of the remnants of the Yakuza. When Revy and Ginji arrive to bail her out, Chaka [[BadBoss shoots through his own men to try and get at them]], kills another man for daring to try and run away, then [[{{hypocrite}} [[{{Hypocrite}} runs away himself]], leaving his men to be massacred. [[PsychopathicManchild Childish]], {{stupid|Evil}}, and completely out of his depth, Chaka manages to make an impression only through his complete lack of conscience, [[{{Turncoat}} loyalty]], or human decency.



* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Especially in the earlier stages, although not as much in the anime. It's still very easy to not care about what happens to anyone since they're all jerks, evil or psychotic, [[StrawNihilist Straw Nihilists]] (or [[TheAntiNihilist Anti-Nihilists]], which is a change in the tune, but still is the same song) one and all, [[MotiveRant and love to talk about their reasons for being so at length to anybody who cares to listen]] (and to many who don't have any other option but hear it).

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Especially in the earlier stages, although not as much in the anime. It's still very easy to not care about what happens to anyone since they're all jerks, evil or psychotic, [[StrawNihilist Straw Nihilists]] {{Straw Nihilist}}s (or [[TheAntiNihilist Anti-Nihilists]], which is a change in the tune, but still is the same song) one and all, [[MotiveRant and love to talk about their reasons for being so at length to anybody who cares to listen]] (and to many who don't have any other option but hear it).



** And the men [[MrFanservice aren't]]? [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Mr. Chang]] is [[TallDarkAndSnarky hot]]. [[GuileHero Rock]] is [[TallDarkAndHandsome hot]]. [[TheCaptain Dutch]] is [[SleevesAreForWimps hot]]. [[PlayfulHacker Benny]] is [[NerdsAreSexy hot]]. Villainy apparently makes for very sexy bodies, but even [[MoralityPet Garcia]] is [[{{Shotacon}} adorable]].

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** And the men [[MrFanservice aren't]]? [[ReasonableAuthorityFigure Mr. Chang]] is [[TallDarkAndSnarky hot]]. [[GuileHero Rock]] is [[TallDarkAndHandsome hot]]. [[TheCaptain Dutch]] is [[SleevesAreForWimps hot]]. [[PlayfulHacker Benny]] is [[NerdsAreSexy hot]]. Villainy apparently makes for very sexy bodies, but even [[MoralityPet Garcia]] is [[{{Shotacon}} adorable]].[[{{Lolicon}} adorable]].
* FauxSymbolism: Roanapur has a giant erosion-defaced statue of Buddha at its entrance. The narration doesn't even try to be subtle.



** ''Black Lagoon'' can be said to be made of these, containing varying references to languages, firearms, music (From Creator/RobZombie to Music/CreedenceClearwaterRevival) and quite a few about Westerns like ''Film/TheWildBunch'' (one of the characters in which was called [[WildMassGuessing "Dutch"…]]). It also contains a surprising amount of philosophy – themes such as Sartre's existentialism, consequence ethics, nihilism, phenomenalism, and Kierkegaard's "knight of faith" are openly discussed by characters (if not using those exact words).
** [[GunPorn As an example]], take the firefight in the Yellow Flag which serves as Fabiola's introduction. Halfway through the fight, she throws away her [[GunsAkimbo right-hand handgun]] and [[spoiler:breaks out a China Lake 40mm grenade launcher, an exotic weapon which even the denizens of Roanapur don't recognize (witness Revy's reaction). A little research shows that the China Lake holds a maximum of four grenades, and Fabiola doesn't seem to have any spare grenades at hand (or any time to load them, for that matter). Alert readers will notice that Fabiola launches all four grenades during the fight. When she cocks the launcher again to threaten Gustavo, she's ''bluffing'' – she's out of ammo. It partly explains why she needs a stiff drink, and why her knees give out a little later.]]

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** ''Black Lagoon'' can be said to be made of these, containing varying references to languages, firearms, music (From Creator/RobZombie to Music/CreedenceClearwaterRevival) and quite a few about Westerns like ''Film/TheWildBunch'' (one of the characters in which was called [[WildMassGuessing "Dutch"…]])."Dutch"]]...). It also contains a surprising amount of philosophy – themes such as Sartre's existentialism, consequence ethics, nihilism, phenomenalism, and Kierkegaard's "knight of faith" are openly discussed by characters (if not using those exact words).
** [[GunPorn As an example]], take the firefight in the Yellow Flag which serves as Fabiola's introduction. Halfway through the fight, she throws away her [[GunsAkimbo right-hand handgun]] and [[spoiler:breaks out a China Lake 40mm grenade launcher, an exotic weapon which even the denizens of Roanapur don't recognize (witness Revy's reaction). A little research shows that the China Lake holds a maximum of four grenades, and Fabiola doesn't seem to have any spare grenades at hand (or any time to load them, for that matter). Alert readers will notice that Fabiola launches all four grenades during the fight. When she cocks the launcher again to threaten Gustavo, she's ''bluffing'' – she's out of ammo. It partly explains why she needs a stiff drink, and why her knees give out a little later.]]later]].



* [[HarsherInHindsight/AnimeAndManga Harsher in Hindsight]]:

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* HilariousInHindsight (Combined with CastingGag): In the English dub, Creator/CathyWeseluck's Garcia has a crush on Creator/TabithaStGermain's Roberta. Later on, both VA's would [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic reunite in another animated show, but as Spike and Rarity.]]

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* HilariousInHindsight (Combined with CastingGag): In the English dub, Creator/CathyWeseluck's Garcia has a crush on Creator/TabithaStGermain's Roberta. Later on, both VA's would [[WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic reunite in another animated show, but as Spike and Rarity.]]Rarity]].



** "You got [[PrecisionFStrike FUCKED!]]"
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5PB4Xw1dAQ Pretty much any of]] [[TheStoner Leigharch's high-induced]] {{NonSequitur}}s:

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** "You got [[PrecisionFStrike FUCKED!]]"
FUCKED]]!"
** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5PB4Xw1dAQ Pretty much any of]] [[TheStoner Leigharch's high-induced]] {{NonSequitur}}s:{{Non Sequitur}}s:



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** [[StupidEvil Hansel]] and his confrontation with Balalaika. He sees her sitting at a fountain, alone, and it doesn't even occur to him that [[spoiler:she might have a sniper team watching him from a rooftop.]] [[LampshadedTrope This is lampshaded]] when she acknowledges that there was absolutely no way that anyone who wasn't completely insane and mindlessly bloodthirsty would fall for such a painfully obvious trap.
** Chaka in the Japan arc. He [[spoiler:''knows'' that Revy's a gunslinger, from a town renowned for its toughness all over Asia… so, to attract her attention, he abuses and mistreats the man she's protecting, hoping to get her to draw her gun (in fact, Chaka only survives past his first appearance because Revy didn't have her guns with her at the time)]]. Not to mention [[spoiler:his treatment of Yukio, who has a badass protector of her own in [[{{Samurai}} Ginji Matsuzaki]].]]

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** [[StupidEvil Hansel]] and his confrontation with Balalaika. He sees her sitting at a fountain, alone, and it doesn't even occur to him that [[spoiler:she might have a sniper team watching him from a rooftop.]] [[LampshadedTrope rooftop]]. [[LampshadeHanging This is lampshaded]] when she acknowledges that there was absolutely no way that anyone who wasn't completely insane and mindlessly bloodthirsty would fall for such a painfully obvious trap.
** Chaka in the Japan arc. He [[spoiler:''knows'' that Revy's a gunslinger, from a town renowned for its toughness all over Asia… Asia... so, to attract her attention, he abuses and mistreats the man she's protecting, hoping to get her to draw her gun (in fact, Chaka only survives past his first appearance because Revy didn't have her guns with her at the time)]]. Not to mention [[spoiler:his treatment of Yukio, who has a badass protector of her own in [[{{Samurai}} Ginji Matsuzaki]].]]



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotSymbolic: Roanapur has a giant erosion-defaced statue of Buddha at its entrance. The narration doesn't even try to be subtle.
2nd Sep '15 8:11:46 AM ChaoticNovelist
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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Especially in the earlier stages, although not as much in the anime. It's still very easy to not care about what happens to anyone since they're all jerks, evil or psychotic, [[StrawNihilist Straw Nihilists]] (or [[TheAntiNihilist Anti-Nihilists]], which is a change in the tune, but still is the same song) one and all, [[MotiveRant and love to talk about their reasons for being so at length to anybody who cares to listen]] ([[HannibalLecture and to many who don't have any other option but hear it]]).

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Especially in the earlier stages, although not as much in the anime. It's still very easy to not care about what happens to anyone since they're all jerks, evil or psychotic, [[StrawNihilist Straw Nihilists]] (or [[TheAntiNihilist Anti-Nihilists]], which is a change in the tune, but still is the same song) one and all, [[MotiveRant and love to talk about their reasons for being so at length to anybody who cares to listen]] ([[HannibalLecture and (and to many who don't have any other option but hear it]]).it).
28th Aug '15 10:35:59 PM MaddKossack115
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** Pretty much any of [[TheStoner Leigharch's high-induced]] {{NonSequitur}}s:

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** [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5PB4Xw1dAQ Pretty much any of of]] [[TheStoner Leigharch's high-induced]] {{NonSequitur}}s:



*** "''Jimi Hendrix is calling me back!'' He got my message! ''He wants me to defeat the Klingons, ASAP!'' '''C-C-CAPTAIN ''PICAAAARD!!'''''"

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*** "''Jimi Hendrix is calling me back!'' back!'' He got my message! ''He wants me to defeat the Klingons, ASAP!'' '''C-C-CAPTAIN ''PICAAAARD!!'''''"



*** "AHHH! ''Barbarella is holding an anti-war sign in the nude!''"

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*** "AHHH! "AHHH! ''Barbarella is holding an anti-war sign in the nude!''"
28th Aug '15 10:34:48 PM MaddKossack115
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** Liegharch, [[OneSceneWonder despite basically getting two episodes in total on the anime]] ([[spoiler: [[PutOnABus and being stated to have been put in a mental institution after an overdose]]]]) is a RIDICULOUSLY popular character, based on being a BadassDriver [[MushroomSamba while being completely high off his tits on weed]].


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** Pretty much any of [[TheStoner Leigharch's high-induced]] {{NonSequitur}}s:
*** "Oh yeah! I almost forgot! '''I'VE GOTTA GET TO ''LIVERPOOL!!'''''"
*** "''Jimi Hendrix is calling me back!'' He got my message! ''He wants me to defeat the Klingons, ASAP!'' '''C-C-CAPTAIN ''PICAAAARD!!'''''"
*** "'''I DON'T UNDERSTAND!!''' ''Where're you ladies takin' me?!'' Could it be? ''Could it?'' The legendary '''NUDE BEACH?!'''"
*** "AHHH! ''Barbarella is holding an anti-war sign in the nude!''"
*** "[[BigWhat WHAT?!]] ''My application for the Black Panthers was denied again?!?!''"
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