History YMMV / BlackLagoon

11th Oct '17 5:33:06 PM nendroid
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Although the series itself is a tribute to the American "stupid action movies" of the 80s and 90s, it still has a very grim and depressive atmosphere of criminal films, which is clearly enjoyable on everything.



* CriticalResearchFailure:

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* CriticalResearchFailure:CriticalResearchFailure: While Rei Hiroe's fairly knowledgeable about the subjects he tackles, there's some where he ends up flubbing on.



* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Especially in the earlier stages, although not as much in the anime. It's still very easy to not care about what happens to anyone since they're all jerks, evil or psychotic, {{Straw Nihilist}}s (or [[TheAntiNihilist Anti-Nihilists]], which is a change in the tune, but still is the same song) one and all, [[MotiveRant and love to talk about their reasons for being so at length to anybody who cares to listen]] (and to many who don't have any other option but hear it).

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* DarknessInducedAudienceApathy: Especially in the earlier stages, although not as much in the anime. It's still very easy to not care about what happens to anyone since they're all jerks, evil or evil, psychotic, and/or {{Straw Nihilist}}s (or [[TheAntiNihilist Anti-Nihilists]], which is a change in the tune, but still is the same song) one and all, song), [[MotiveRant and love to talk about their reasons for being so at length to anybody who cares to listen]] (and to many who don't have any other option but hear it).
1st Oct '17 4:42:29 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: Just who ''is'' Eda, really? Is she a goofy so-called nun [[spoiler:who only occasionally who takes her job as a CIA agent seriously]]? Or is she really [[spoiler:a cold, domineering mastermind whose appearance to others is merely a convincing deception]]? Whatever it is, she's definitely not who she appears to be.

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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: AlternativeCharacterInterpretation:
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Just who ''is'' Eda, really? Is she a goofy so-called nun [[spoiler:who only occasionally who takes her job as a CIA agent seriously]]? Or is she really [[spoiler:a cold, domineering mastermind whose appearance to others is merely a convincing deception]]? Whatever it is, she's definitely not who she appears to be.be.
** Was Revy telling the truth about her prison experiences? Or was she just making them up to threaten Greenback Jane?
23rd Sep '17 4:39:06 PM TheOrbOfConfusion
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* AuthorsSavingThrow: Less about appeasing angry fans and more about averting DarknessInducedAudienceApathy, but after the soul-sucking depression conga that was Hansel and Gretel's arc, the [[UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist absolutely hilarious]] [[ButtMonkey Greenback Jane]] arc (which starts with a comic-relief scene where [[ShipperOnDeck Eda trolls Revy about her feelings for Rock]]) seems almost like a make-up present to anyone who forced themselves through it.



* BetterThanCanon: Although it has its detractors as listed under BrokenBase, some people prefer the OVA ending for ''Roberta's Blood Trail'' for giving the Grey Fox unit a [[CurbstompCushion better showing]] against Roberta, [[spoiler: where in the manga, she [[GodModeSue murdered them all with a flintlock rifle without being injured at all]], and for its redemptive final scene where she [[spoiler: CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming meets the family of the Japanese man she killed, who forgive her for killing him.]]

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* BetterThanCanon: Although it has its detractors as listed under BrokenBase, some people prefer the OVA ending for ''Roberta's Blood Trail'' for giving the Grey Fox unit a [[CurbstompCushion better showing]] against Roberta, [[spoiler: where in the manga, she [[GodModeSue murdered them all with a flintlock rifle without being injured at all]], all]]]], and for its redemptive final scene where she [[spoiler: CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming meets the family of the Japanese man she killed, who forgive her for killing him.]]
7th Sep '17 3:12:46 AM Romancechina999
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** Regardless of how tragic the villain's fate is and how much you sympathize with him, this does not mean that he can be returned to the bright side andand make a good man out of him, if you do enough good for him.

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** Regardless of how tragic the villain's fate is and how much you sympathize with him, them, this does not mean that he they can be returned to the bright side andand and make a good man person out of him, them, if you do enough good for him.them.
2nd Sep '17 11:16:19 AM LittleBuster
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* AudienceAlienatingPremise: Although the series itself is a tribute to the American "stupid action movies" of the 80s and 90s, it still has a very grim and depressive atmosphere of criminal films, which is clearly enjoyable on everything.


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* DracoInLeatherPants: Although the work clearly moralizes that they are bad and doomed people, Hansel and Gretel have become so loved among fans that they more perceive them as tragic heroes than the villains of the arc.


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* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: One of the main ideas of the manga is the idea that a person must adapt to the environment in order to survive, even if it requires him to be cruel and cynical. In support of this, whenever Rock tries to be sympathetic or peaceful, story punishes him.
** Regardless of how tragic the villain's fate is and how much you sympathize with him, this does not mean that he can be returned to the bright side andand make a good man out of him, if you do enough good for him.


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* MisaimedMarketing: Although the anime contains a very large amount of violence and cruelty, including even the killing of children in the second season (who in themselves are crazy incestuous maniacs), in some countries, its localization was sold as a series for youth and adolescents.
27th Aug '17 9:17:51 AM smasll_lordvoice
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* BetterThanCanon: Although it has its detractors as listed under BrokenBase, some people prefer the OVA ending for ''Roberta's Blood Trail'' for giving the Grey Fox unit a [[CurbstompCushion better showing]] against Roberta, [[spoiler: where in the manga, she [[GodModeSue murdered them all with a flintlock rifle without being injured at all]], and for its redemptive final scene where she [[spoiler: CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming meets the family of the Japanese man she killed, who forgive her for killing him.]]


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** [[MajorlyAwesome Major Caxton]] is very popular ([[GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff especially among American fans]], not surprisingly) for being possibly '''the''' [[AllLovingHero nicest]] and [[TheAce most]] [[HonorBeforeReason heroic]] character in the entire series, on top of being 100% badass. His unit, the [[BadassCrew Grey Foxes]], is popular for much the same reason.
17th Aug '17 4:34:25 PM Sakubara
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** "Sure Hansel and Gretel's backstory is tragic sure , but there's no way in real life people would be fucked enough to make literal Torture Porn videoes of children"...[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Scully well]] (note: seriously the link contains some disturbing content even if it is just TheOtherWiki).
14th Jun '17 6:35:46 PM nombretomado
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** Yukio's family issues, her [[TheYakuza other family issues]], all the shit Chaka does to her, etc.

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** Yukio's family issues, her [[TheYakuza [[{{Yakuza}} other family issues]], all the shit Chaka does to her, etc.
9th Apr '17 2:53:09 PM darkabomination
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* {{Narm}}:
** Potentially lapses into this whenever Revy decides to go on a philosophical rant. [[spoiler:This is really just meant to show how pathetic and broken she's become as a result of [[DarkAndTroubledPast a very rotten life]]. Her words ring hollow to the viewers because ''she's'' become [[BreakTheCutie hollow]] and is simply justifying her own way of doing things. Rock, naturally, tries to set her straight. Seems to work as she [[CharacterDevelopment eventually stops ranting so much]].]]
** One of the episodes is titled "Rasta Blasta". It's way too ridiculous-sounding to take seriously.
* TheScrappy: Chaka made number one on a poll of "worst characters" in the manga. Yukio was also on this list, though she's more of a BaseBreaker.

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* {{Narm}}:
** Potentially lapses into this whenever
{{Narm}}: One of the episodes is titled "Rasta Blasta". It's way too ridiculous-sounding to take seriously.
* NarmCharm: Whenever
Revy decides to go on a one of her philosophical rant.rants. [[spoiler:This is really just meant to show how pathetic and broken she's become as a result of [[DarkAndTroubledPast a very rotten life]]. Her words ring hollow to the viewers because ''she's'' become [[BreakTheCutie hollow]] and is simply justifying her own way of doing things. Rock, naturally, tries to set her straight. Seems to work as she [[CharacterDevelopment eventually stops ranting so much]].]]
** One of the episodes is titled "Rasta Blasta". It's way too ridiculous-sounding to take seriously.
* TheScrappy: Chaka made number one on a poll of "worst characters" in the manga. Yukio was also on this list, though she's more of a BaseBreaker.
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** The dub had a bit of a resurgence in popularity [[http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1zaqgz_my-little-pony-ties-with-black-lagoon_creation when many realized a lot of the voice cast had gone on to be in]] ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''. This either makes it HilariousInHindsight or AccidentalNightmareFuel for fans who watched [=MLP:FiM=] ''before'' getting into Black Lagoon.



* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: Shane Caxton refuses to give his men order to shoot Roberta when she attacks them. This is supposed to be a magnanimous gesture on his part: Feeling responsible for the death of Garcia's father, he intends to protect the life of another person Garcia cares about. Except this is also ''profoundly, terribly'' stupid. As a military commander, he is responsible for the lives of his men; neglectfully throwing away their lives like that is a legitimate cause for disobedience, if not outright mutiny. Furthermore, if all he wants to do is redeem himself in Garcia's eyes, then he could and should have just give up ''only'' himself. There is no need to involve his men.

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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: UnintentionallyUnsympathetic:
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Shane Caxton refuses to give his men order to shoot Roberta when she attacks them. This is supposed to be a magnanimous gesture on his part: Feeling responsible for the death of Garcia's father, he intends to protect the life of another person Garcia cares about. Except this is also ''profoundly, terribly'' stupid. As a military commander, he is responsible for the lives of his men; neglectfully throwing away their lives like that is a legitimate cause for disobedience, if not outright mutiny. Furthermore, if all he wants to do is redeem himself in Garcia's eyes, then he could and should have just give up ''only'' himself. There is no need to involve his men.
15th Feb '17 7:18:57 AM Amon_Ra
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* MoralEventHorizon: Anything Chaka does to Yukio Washimine would make him a grade-A asshole, but put it all together and you get this trope: kidapping, beating, stripping, plans to sell her into sex slavery and bragging about doing so to a "real sicko".

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* MoralEventHorizon: Anything Chaka does to Yukio Washimine would make him a grade-A asshole, but put it all together and you get this trope: kidapping, kidnapping, beating, stripping, plans to sell her into sex slavery and bragging about doing so to a "real sicko".
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