History YMMV / BethPhoenix

3rd Apr '17 1:31:32 AM Unityd3v
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* BrokenBase: The decision to induct her into the Hall of Fame in 2017 split the fanbase down the middle. One camp is happy for her and feel she should be recognised. The other feels she went in far too only - just four years after her retirement and at the age of 37 (making her the youngest inductee). The second camp usually cites other women like Wrestling/MollyHolly, {{Wrestling/Ivory}} or {{Wrestling/Chyna}} who they feel should have got recognised beforehand.

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* BrokenBase: The decision to induct her into the Hall of Fame in 2017 split the fanbase down the middle. One camp is happy for her and feel she should be recognised. The other feels she went in far too only early - just four years after her retirement and at the age of 37 (making her the youngest inductee). The second camp usually cites other women like Wrestling/MollyHolly, {{Wrestling/Ivory}} or {{Wrestling/Chyna}} who they feel should have got gotten recognised beforehand.
16th Mar '17 7:29:45 PM fearlessnikki
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* BrokenBase: The decision to induct her into the Hall of Fame in 2017 split the fanbase down the middle. One camp is happy for her and feel she should be recognised. The other feels she went in far too only - just four years after her retirement and at the age of 37 (making her the youngest inductee). The second camp usually cites other women like Wrestling/MollyHolly, {{Wrestling/Ivory}} or {{Wrestling/Chyna}} who they feel should have got recognised beforehand.



* HilariousInHindsight: Wrestling future boyfriend Wrestling/CMPunk (they since have split up) in the ring during the 2010 Royal Rumble.
* HollywoodHomely
** Early on, WWE tried to have a few jokes at the expense of her supposedly "mannish" features. Nobody bought it.
** Laycool is still trying to do this as part of their AlphaBitch persona, but now it's used more to show [=LayCool=] as a pair of idiots.

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* HilariousInHindsight: HilariousInHindsight:
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Wrestling future boyfriend Wrestling/CMPunk (they since have split up) in the ring during the 2010 Royal Rumble.
* HollywoodHomely
** Early on, At ''[=WrestleMania=]'' 24 during the tag match, she came out to Melina's music despite being the Women's Champion. In her other two Mania matches, she would be the senior ranking woman in the match but come out to someone else's music (both times it was Wrestling/EveTorres). Her participation in the 25-Diva battle royal counts too, as all the girls came out to Kid Rock's mini concert.
* HollywoodHomely:
WWE tried to have a few jokes poke fun at the expense of her supposedly "mannish" features. Nobody bought it.
** Laycool is still trying to do this as part of
for being 'mannish' early on but they dropped it pretty quickly. Wrestling/LayCool also did it in their AlphaBitch persona, feud with her - but now it's it was mostly used more to show [=LayCool=] them as a pair of idiots.
5th Feb '17 4:47:51 PM fearlessnikki
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* BadassDecay: Three words "Hunter, we're girls!"
* FashionVictimVillain: Her entire new collection of outfits since [=SummerSlam=]. All she needs now is an apron and roller skates.
* GrowingTheBeard: Despite having wrestled legitimately for most of her life, her first two years as rookie in pro wrestling weren't full of stunning matches. A lot of promoters saw something special in her though and she was well on her way to becoming the pro wrestler people would rave about by 2003.

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* BadassDecay: Three words AuthorsSavingThrow:
** After it became clear that Beth would be leaving WWE once her contract was up, she and Natalya had a match on Smackdown that was clearly an apology to the fans who had wanted a feud between them. Despite having very little reason to happen, the match was given a good amount of time and treated like a big deal.
** Beth suffered a few setbacks in the 'Santina' gimmick and was doing nothing on Raw. But then she was moved to Smackdown, turned face and treated like the badass she was meant to be.
* DorkAge: The latter part of the Divas of Doom phase, where Beth suffered massive amounts of BadassDecay. Fans point to her being forced to say
"Hunter, we're girls!"
''girls''" in a vote of No Confidence against Triple H. She did have a point - since earlier in the night she'd got a RoaringRampageOfRevenge from Kelly Kelly that nearly knocked her out - but it had the UnfortunateImplications that even the champion, the top woman in the division, was inherently a DistressedDamsel compared to the males.
* FashionVictimVillain: Her entire new collection of outfits since [=SummerSlam=]. [=SummerSlam=] 2011. All she needs now is needed was an apron and roller skates.
* GrowingTheBeard: Despite having wrestled legitimately for most of her life, her first two years as rookie in pro wrestling weren't full of stunning matches. A lot of promoters saw something special in her though and she was well on her way to becoming the pro wrestler people would rave about by 2003. Even in WWE her initial push was seen as lacklustre, and ''Diva Dirt'' writers viewed her as good in the ring but average in terms of character. It wasn't until 2008 and especially her feud with Melina that Beth really began to put people on notice.



* UnintentionallySympathetic: At the start of her most current (late 2011-early 2012) heel run, she declared she wanted to put an end to the era of the eye-candy, "Barbie doll" Divas. UnfortunateImplications aside [[note]]It seemed to imply that it wasn't possible to be good-looking as well as a skilled in-ring performer[[/note]], it ''might'' have gotten over decently as a heel gimmick if it weren't for the fact that a lot of smarks and fans of the old-school women's division ''agreed with her.'' This may or may not have been the reason for her {{Flanderization}} into a self-centered AlphaBitch.
** JerkassHasAPoint: The Diva Search Idiots and the Catalog Idiots (Wrestling/JohnLaurinaitis found Kelly Kelly and Alicia Fox in the same swimsuit catalog) dragged down the division and added nothing valuable to the product.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** A big ball was dropped with the whole Divas of Doom storyline. Essentially Alicia Fox's face turn was meant to give Kelly and Eve a third Diva on their side because {{Wrestling/Kaitlyn}} was being groomed to become the third Diva of Doom. Vince [=McMahon=] changed his mind at the last minute and what could have been a fun 6-Diva feud got stopped - leaving Beth to do very little afterwards.
** Despite being highly anticipated, Beth and Natalya never feuded with each other. They formed alliances twice in their careers but never had the feud that everyone wanted.
* UnintentionallySympathetic: At the start of her most current (late 2011-early 2012) heel run, she declared she wanted to put an end to the era of the eye-candy, "Barbie doll" Divas. UnfortunateImplications aside [[note]]It seemed to imply that it wasn't possible to be good-looking as well as a skilled in-ring performer[[/note]], it ''might'' have gotten over decently as a heel gimmick if it weren't for the fact that a lot of smarks and fans of the old-school women's division ''agreed with her.'' This may or may not have been the reason for her {{Flanderization}} into a self-centered AlphaBitch.
** JerkassHasAPoint: The Diva Search Idiots and the Catalog Idiots (Wrestling/JohnLaurinaitis found Kelly Kelly and Alicia Fox in the same swimsuit catalog) dragged down the division and added nothing valuable to the product.
AlphaBitch.
27th Sep '16 6:52:04 AM mugiwara
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* RomanceOnTheSet: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted.]] She met Wrestling/{{Edge}} while still in WWE, but it was not until both are retired when they started dating. They now have two children.
** Played straight with former husband Joey Knight and ex-boyfriend Wrestling/CMPunk.
27th Sep '16 6:46:33 AM mugiwara
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* Played straight with former husband Joey Knight and ex-boyfriend Wrestling/CMPunk.

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* ** Played straight with former husband Joey Knight and ex-boyfriend Wrestling/CMPunk.
27th Sep '16 6:46:09 AM mugiwara
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* HilariousInHindsight: Wrestling future boyfriend Wrestling/CMPunk in the ring during the 2010 Royal Rumble.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Wrestling future boyfriend Wrestling/CMPunk (they since have split up) in the ring during the 2010 Royal Rumble.


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* RomanceOnTheSet: [[SubvertedTrope Subverted.]] She met Wrestling/{{Edge}} while still in WWE, but it was not until both are retired when they started dating. They now have two children.
* Played straight with former husband Joey Knight and ex-boyfriend Wrestling/CMPunk.
10th Jan '16 11:47:17 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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* GrowingTheBeard: Despite having wrestled legitimately for most of her life, her first two years as rookie in pro wrestling weren't full of stunning matches. A lot of promoters saw something special in her though and she was well on her way to becoming the pro wrestler people would rave about by 2003.



* HollywoodHomely: Early on, WWE tried to have a few jokes at the expense of her supposedly "mannish" features. Nobody bought it.

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* HollywoodHomely: HollywoodHomely
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Early on, WWE tried to have a few jokes at the expense of her supposedly "mannish" features. Nobody bought it.



* ItGetsBetter: Despite having wrestled legitimately for most of her life, her first two years as rookie in pro wrestling weren't full of stunning matches. A lot of promoters saw something special in her though and she was well on her way to becoming the pro wrestler people would rave about by 2003.
20th Nov '15 1:06:37 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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** Wrestling/{{LayCool}} is still trying to do this as part of their AlphaBitch persona, but now it's used more to show [=LayCool=] as a pair of idiots.

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** Wrestling/{{LayCool}} Laycool is still trying to do this as part of their AlphaBitch persona, but now it's used more to show [=LayCool=] as a pair of idiots.



** JerkassHasAPoint: The Diva Search Idiots and the Catalog Idiots (Wrestling/JohnLaurinaitis found Wrestling/KellyKelly and Wrestling/AliciaFox in the same swimsuit catalog) dragged down the division and added nothing valuable to the product.

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** JerkassHasAPoint: The Diva Search Idiots and the Catalog Idiots (Wrestling/JohnLaurinaitis found Wrestling/KellyKelly Kelly Kelly and Wrestling/AliciaFox Alicia Fox in the same swimsuit catalog) dragged down the division and added nothing valuable to the product.
21st Mar '15 5:04:46 AM IndirectActiveTransport
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Added DiffLines:

* ItGetsBetter: Despite having wrestled legitimately for most of her life, her first two years as rookie in pro wrestling weren't full of stunning matches. A lot of promoters saw something special in her though and she was well on her way to becoming the pro wrestler people would rave about by 2003.
8th Jul '14 3:36:45 AM LogoP
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* FanDumb: The above quote was a good case of BadassDecay and {{Chickification}}, with a healthy dose of likely intentional [[{{Hypocrite}} hypocrisy]] considering Beth's [[WellIntentionedExtremist character]] at the time. The fact that she eliminated the Great Khali, ''the largest man in the match'', over the top in the 2010 Royal Rumble by kissing him, was not. Some say the only reason it worked was because he was a clumsy oaf, or because his character was in a playboy phase where he would usually end up kissing a woman in any segment he was in. That's not dumb luck, though: this is all stuff Beth would likely '''know''' from being in the same arenas as him every week. Beth wasn't pointlessly "lowering herself" to the standards of a Khali Kiss Cam girl and he only just happened to take himself out in the process. She was being a FemmeFatale in getting rid of '''the largest man in the Royal Rumble match.''' This was also the same Rumble where…okay, see HilariousInHindsight two lines below. How people could complain she was chickified in that Rumble was…wow.
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