History YMMV / Berserk

24th Apr '17 7:24:15 AM TheBigBopper
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* StrawmanHasAPoint: In Lost Children, when the townsfolk call Guts heartless for using little Thomas as live bait to trap Rosine's pseudo-elves, he shuts them up by pointedly asking if any of them were brave enough to unlock their door to shelter him. If you think about it, Guts is kind of a hypocrite for saying so. The people who "made him laugh" had absolutely zero chance of saving Thomas because of their own powerlessness, so "unlocking their doors" would have led to nothing more then them dying together with the child. However, Guts had a choice, and CHOSE to use Thomas in the trap. So the anger the villagers feel towards Guts is perfectly reasonable.
16th Apr '17 9:58:05 AM Cieloazul
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** An Apostle from the Eclipse that [[spoiler:killed Judeau]] has a silly appearance that cannot be taken seriously.

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** An Apostle Isidro's name is difficult to take seriously in a high-fantasy work by a Spaniard, as it is actually a real name in Spain, but one commonly associated with country bumpkins (to put in perspective, think of a character in the [[Literature/TheLordOfTheRings Middle Earth]] named Cletus). Some translations get away with it by rendering it as Isidoro, which is somewhat more serious, but the name has its own problems (namely, that it is strongly associated in the Spanish pop culture to ''WesternAnimation/HeathcliffAndTheCatillacCats'', whose main character was renamed Isidoro in the Spanish translations).
** Many Apostles
from the Eclipse Eclipse, especially the one that [[spoiler:killed Judeau]] has a Judeau]], have very silly appearance that cannot be taken seriously.appearances. Some of them look like straight out of a {{Tokusatsu}} producer brainstorming session.



** Isidro's name is difficult to take seriously in a high-fantasy work by a Spaniard, as it is actually a real name in Spain, but one commonly associated with country bumpkins and colloquial context (to put in perspective, think of a character in the [[Literatur/TheLordOfTheRings Middle Earth]] named Cletus). Some translations get away with it by rendering it as Isidoro, which is somewhat more serious, but the name has its own problems (namely, that it is strongly associated in the Spanish pop culture to ''WesternAnimation/HeathcliffAndTheCatillacCats'', whose main character was renamed Isidoro in the Spanish translations).
16th Apr '17 9:54:43 AM Cieloazul
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** Conrad is the odd one out of the Godhand in that he really isn't scary. Not only does he have the least threatening name, but his design invokes none of the BodyHorror nor the UncannyValley that the others do, and he just looks like a really fat dude who keeps his eyes shut. His voice sounds like a high-pitched guy who's out of breath and it's probably for the best that he's the least important of the five.

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** Conrad is the odd one out of the Godhand in that he really isn't scary. Not only does he have the least threatening name, but his design invokes none of the BodyHorror nor the UncannyValley that the others do, and do: he just looks like a really fat dude who keeps his eyes shut. His shut and his mouth pouting, and his voice sounds like a high-pitched guy who's out of breath and it's breath. It's probably for the best that he's the least important of the five.five.
** Serpico's EyesAlwaysShut stick out like a sore thumb in a manga series in which most character designs are too realistic for that kind of cartoonish visual resources. It only makes him look like he has his eyes really closed with all its absurdity.



** The infamous "Rape Horse" scene would've been terrifying (like all of the other nightmarish rape scenes in ''Berserk'') if not for the goofy facial expressions that the demon makes. Many cite the scene as [[CrossesTheLineTwice being darkly (if unintentionally) hilarious]] even in-context, due to the darkness in the scene being over-the-top even by ''Berserk''[='=]s standards.
** Also, in universe, an example in the eyes of Isidro. Flora golems are flat out stupid to him, but he knows they're dangerous.... and yet he can't [[{{Corpsing}} stop laughing]].

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** The infamous "Rape Horse" scene would've been terrifying (like like all of the other nightmarish rape scenes in ''Berserk'') ''Berserk'' if not for the goofy facial expressions that the demon makes. Many cite the scene as [[CrossesTheLineTwice being darkly unintentionally (if unintentionally) darkly) hilarious]] even in-context, due to the darkness in the scene being over-the-top even by ''Berserk''[='=]s standards.
** Isidro's name is difficult to take seriously in a high-fantasy work by a Spaniard, as it is actually a real name in Spain, but one commonly associated with country bumpkins and colloquial context (to put in perspective, think of a character in the [[Literatur/TheLordOfTheRings Middle Earth]] named Cletus). Some translations get away with it by rendering it as Isidoro, which is somewhat more serious, but the name has its own problems (namely, that it is strongly associated in the Spanish pop culture to ''WesternAnimation/HeathcliffAndTheCatillacCats'', whose main character was renamed Isidoro in the Spanish translations).
** Also, in universe, an example in the eyes of Isidro. Flora golems are flat out stupid to him, but he knows they're dangerous....dangerous... and yet he can't [[{{Corpsing}} stop laughing]].
12th Apr '17 9:38:13 PM ImperialMajestyXO
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** When Casca comes down with her period-induced fever, Guts thinks to himself [[WaxingLyrical "I guess]] [[TheBluesBrothers sometimes it's hard to be a woman".]]

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** When Casca comes down with her period-induced fever, Guts thinks to himself [[WaxingLyrical "I guess]] [[TheBluesBrothers [[Film/TheBluesBrothers sometimes it's hard to be a woman".]]
24th Mar '17 6:04:38 AM TheBigBopper
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* ArchivePanic: 37 volumes and no end in sight. Miura suggested in Spring 2009 that the manga is about 60% done, but since then the effects of his periodic hiatuses have made it difficult to predict how many years it will take to finish.

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* ArchivePanic: 37 38 volumes and no end in sight. Miura suggested in Spring 2009 that the manga is about 60% done, but since then the effects of his periodic hiatuses have made it difficult to predict how many years it will take to finish.
24th Mar '17 4:02:59 AM SutairuMasuta
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** Casting Creator/TakahiroSakurai as [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Griffith]] comes off as this, taking into consideration [[ActorAllusion his subsequent role]] as [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans McGillis "Montag" Fareed.]]

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** Casting Creator/TakahiroSakurai as [[ChronicBackstabbingDisorder Griffith]] comes off as this, taking into consideration [[ActorAllusion his subsequent role]] as [[Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans McGillis "Montag" Fareed.]]]] Same goes for Creator/SteveStaley, who also coincidentally voiced [=McGillis=].
23rd Mar '17 9:43:45 PM KingClark
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* MemeticMolester: [[FanNickname Rape Horse]], the demonically possessed horse that tries to rape Farnesse before Guts kills it, who has become a minor symbol of how excessively dark ''Berserk'' is.

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* MemeticMolester: MemeticMolester:
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[[FanNickname Rape Horse]], the demonically possessed horse that tries to rape Farnesse before Guts kills it, who has become a minor symbol of how excessively dark ''Berserk'' is.is.
** Donovan, from much earlier in the series, has become an unofficial mascot of r/Berserklejerk due to his rather infamous rape of a young Guts.
9th Mar '17 12:35:30 AM bt8257
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* NightmareFuel: More than you can shake a stick at.

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* NightmareFuel: [[NightmareFuel/{{Berserk}} More than you can shake a stick at.enough to warrant its own page.]]
9th Mar '17 12:35:30 AM bt8257
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26th Feb '17 5:50:40 AM PrincessGwen
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*** ''Anime/Berserk2016'' has some fans for being a decent PragmaticAdaptation and finally adapting the manga past the Golden Age Arc. Others think it's plot is a poorly paced mess that drops too many elements. Much like the previous films there's the debate over the CGI and hand drawn animation; it's either a medium blend that does work from time to time, or it's just hideous.

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*** ''Anime/Berserk2016'' has some fans for being a decent PragmaticAdaptation and finally adapting the manga past the Golden Age Arc. Others think it's its plot is a poorly paced mess that drops too many elements. Much like the previous films there's the debate over the CGI and hand drawn animation; it's either a medium blend that does work from time to time, or it's just hideous.



** It might give one a really weird, even disturbing, feeling when reading volume 9 where Guts described how Gambino sold him out to Donovan [[spoiler:as a child prostitute]] or just how he was treated like shit by this complete asshole his entire childhood… and Guts doesn't say ''one'' bad thing about Gambino, a guy who downright said that the kid disgusted him and that he should have died instead of Sys (who was one of the few people who truly loved Guts in his whole life, along with Casca and a few of the Hawks Raiders and Guts' new TrueCompanions just leaving little Guts utterly heartbroken to tears. Just looking at how a guy who [[UnstoppableRage runs on rage]] when fighting monsters, [[ThePowerOfHate seethes with hatred]] toward the man who betrayed him in the same fashion, it's truly jarring, even disgusting how he doesn't show the least bit of animosity toward the man who orchestrated such an horrific, traumatizing evil.

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** It might give one a really weird, even disturbing, feeling when reading volume 9 where Guts described how Gambino sold him out to Donovan [[spoiler:as a child prostitute]] or just how he was treated like shit by this complete asshole his entire childhood… and Guts doesn't say ''one'' bad thing about Gambino, a guy who downright said that the kid disgusted him and that he should have died instead of Sys (who was one of the few people who truly loved Guts in his whole life, along with Casca and a few of the Hawks Raiders and Guts' new TrueCompanions just leaving little Guts utterly heartbroken to tears. Just looking at how a guy who [[UnstoppableRage runs on rage]] when fighting monsters, [[ThePowerOfHate seethes with hatred]] toward the man who betrayed him in the same fashion, it's truly jarring, even disgusting how he doesn't show the least bit of animosity toward the man who orchestrated such an a horrific, traumatizing evil.
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