History YMMV / Berserk

16th Apr '18 1:58:29 PM smasll_lordvoice
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* BaseBreakingCharacter: You guessed it Griffith. On one side, you have the fans that admire him because of all of the outstanding things that he has done over the course of the story. They see him as a three-dimensional and complex character [[WhatIsEvil who can't quite be called "evil"]], making the argument that his LackOfEmpathy actually makes him AboveGoodAndEvil (and come on - [[{{Bishonen}} he's gorgeous looking!]]). But on the flip side, you have the fans that rightfully despise him (or at least, appreciate him as a ''villain'') because his actions are ones only the truly evil would commit. Then of course, there's the fact that he ruined everything himself because he had a pissy temper tantrum for losing a battle ONCE.

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You guessed it Griffith. On one side, you have the fans that admire him because of all of the outstanding things that he has done over the course of the story. They see him as a three-dimensional and complex character [[WhatIsEvil who can't quite be called "evil"]], making the argument that his LackOfEmpathy actually makes him AboveGoodAndEvil (and come on - [[{{Bishonen}} he's gorgeous looking!]]). But on the flip side, you have the fans that rightfully despise him (or at least, appreciate him as a ''villain'') because his actions are ones only the truly evil would commit. Then of course, there's the fact that he ruined everything himself because he had a pissy temper tantrum for losing a battle ONCE.
16th Apr '18 1:58:02 PM smasll_lordvoice
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** [[FairyCompanion Puck]] is subject to a good deal of this, many fans (particularly [[AmericansHateTingle in the West) who [[SeriousBusiness have no patience for his antics]] [[TheScrappy despise him]] with a fiery passion for being a SmallAnnoyingCreature whose [[{{Moe}} childlike appearance]] and goofy attitude, not to mention a fair deal of fourth-wall breaking comedy moments, [[MoodWhiplash clash]] [[MoodDissonance horrendously]] with the grim, gritty action and deep gazes into the darkness of the human heart that ''Berserk'' is so acclaimed for. On the other hand, there are just as many fans who are happy to have him around due to Puck's moral goodness and role as Guts' MoralityPet keeping our hero from sliding into complete insanity, and bringing some welcome relief to a story whose unrelenting darkness would [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy otherwise be unbearable.]]

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** [[FairyCompanion Puck]] is subject to a good deal of this, many fans (particularly [[AmericansHateTingle in the West) West]]) who [[SeriousBusiness have no patience for his antics]] [[TheScrappy despise him]] with a fiery passion for being a SmallAnnoyingCreature whose [[{{Moe}} childlike appearance]] and goofy attitude, not to mention a fair deal of fourth-wall breaking comedy moments, [[MoodWhiplash clash]] [[MoodDissonance horrendously]] with the grim, gritty action and deep gazes into the darkness of the human heart that ''Berserk'' is so acclaimed for. On the other hand, there are just as many fans who are happy to have him around due to Puck's moral goodness and role as Guts' MoralityPet keeping our hero from sliding into complete insanity, and bringing some welcome relief to a story whose unrelenting darkness would [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy otherwise be unbearable.]]
16th Apr '18 1:57:44 PM smasll_lordvoice
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** [[FairyCompanion Puck]] is subject to a good deal of this, many fans (particularly [[AmericansHateTingle in the West) who [[SeriousBusiness have no patience for his antics]] [[TheScrappy despise him]] with a fiery passion for being a SmallAnnoyingCreature whose [[{{Moe}} childlike appearance]] and goofy attitude, not to mention a fair deal of fourth-wall breaking comedy moments, [[MoodWhiplash clash]] [[MoodDissonance horrendously]] with the grim, gritty action and deep gazes into the darkness of the human heart that ''Berserk'' is so acclaimed for. On the other hand, there are just as many fans who are happy to have him around due to Puck's moral goodness and role as Guts' MoralityPet keeping our hero from sliding into complete insanity, and bringing some welcome relief to a story whose unrelenting darkness would [[DarknessInducedAudienceApathy otherwise be unbearable.]]
12th Apr '18 12:05:51 PM Reavenator
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** CargoShip: Guts and his sword. At one point, Casca even tells him to "go fuck your sword!"

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** CargoShip: Guts and his sword. At [[GoodBadTranslation In the band of the hawk scanlations]], at one point, point Casca even tells him to "go fuck your sword!"
7th Apr '18 9:05:46 PM Tehrannotaur
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** [[Characters/BerserkGriffithFemto Griffith/Femto]] is the Fifth Member of the Godhand. When he was still human, he was a cold-blooded narcissist who dreamed of ruling his own kingdom no matter what it took, was willing to use his friends to commit political assassinations for him, and displayed intensely jealous behavior towards Casca and Guts. Realizing his followers are able to lead their lives without him, Griffith, in his rage at them daring to care for people besides himself, summons the Godhand, damning their souls in return for becoming the godlike Femto. With his newfound power, Griffith, as Femto rapes Casca while forcing Guts to watch, her Brand of Sacrifice causing her so much pain from his action that she is driven to a comatose state. This act also corrupts her child, turning it into a warped FetusTerrible, which Femto eventually bodyjacks so that he might be reincarnated into the world, setting himself up as a DarkMessiah. Femto later fuses the mundane world and the supernatural worlds together. Defined by his [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], and positive that DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, he is a figure of utter hatred to those who know his true nature.

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** [[Characters/BerserkGriffithFemto Griffith/Femto]] is the Fifth Member of the Godhand. When he was still human, he was a cold-blooded narcissist [[LackOfEmpathy cold-blooded]] {{narcissist}} who dreamed of ruling his own kingdom no matter what it took, [[TheUnfettered was willing to use his friends to commit political assassinations for him, him]], and [[{{Yandere}} displayed intensely jealous behavior towards Casca and Guts.Guts]]. Realizing his followers are able to lead their lives without him, Griffith, in his rage at them daring to care for people besides himself, summons the Godhand, damning their souls in return for becoming the godlike Femto. With his newfound power, Griffith, as Femto rapes {{rape|is a special kind of evil}}s Casca while forcing {{forc|ed to watch}}ing Guts to watch, her Brand of Sacrifice [[ColdBloodedTorture causing her so much pain pain]] from his action that she is [[AngstComa driven to a comatose state.state]]. This act also corrupts her child, turning it into a warped FetusTerrible, which Femto eventually bodyjacks so that he might be reincarnated into the world, setting himself up as a DarkMessiah. Femto later fuses the mundane world and the supernatural worlds together. Defined by his [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], and positive that DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, he is a figure of utter hatred to those who know his true nature.
26th Mar '18 1:07:18 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: Even in this CrapsackWorld, a few characters stand out.
** [[PsychoForHire Wyald]] is one of the first Apostles encountered and one of the nastiest pieces of work that Guts and company meet before the Eclipse goes down. A depraved hedonist, he works for the King of Midland and leads a band of mercenaries made up of the worst murderers, rapists and all around scum that Midland has to offer. His motto is "Excitement and Enjoyment," which translates to [[RapePillageAndBurn raping and murdering]] dozens, including children. He demonstrates [[BadBoss an utter disregard for his men's lives]], frequently triggering traps and getting them killed, solely so that he can laugh at their deaths. After transforming into his true shape, of a [[KillerGorilla fifty-foot tall gorilla]] with a three-foot thick spiky penis, he attempts to rape Casca with it, bragging that she'll "feel like a virgin again" as it rips her in two. Even his own men, the aforementioned worst scum of the kingdom, follow him mainly because they are ''utterly terrified'' of him.
** [[AdiposeRex Ganishka]], the Emperor of Kushan, became insanely paranoid when his mother tried to poison him for his younger brother to become the heir, only for the brother not to survive. His paranoia got to the point where his own son tried to kill him out of fear he would see his son as a threat. After accepting the Godhand's offer he has become a near-perfect example of TheCaligula, which shows in mass executions, ethnic cleansing, using conquered populations as human shields or cannon fodder for his armies, attempting to rape the captive princess Charlotte and suspending women over a pool filled with hungry crocodiles, and dropping thousands of ''pregnant'' women into cauldrons with stitched-together Apostles to turn the unborn babies into half-human demons that rip apart their mothers upon birth. Grandiose, megalomaniacal, and obsessed with his position as TheEmperor, Ganishka revels in being as evil as he possibly can be.
** [[Characters/BerserkGriffithFemto Griffith/Femto]] is the Fifth Member of the Godhand. When he was still human, he was a cold-blooded narcissist who dreamed of ruling his own kingdom no matter what it took, was willing to use his friends to commit political assassinations for him, and displayed intensely jealous behavior towards Casca and Guts. Realizing his followers are able to lead their lives without him, Griffith, in his rage at them daring to care for people besides himself, summons the Godhand, damning their souls in return for becoming the godlike Femto. As Femto, his first act is to rape Casca while forcing Guts to watch, causing her intense agony through her Brand of Sacrifice (which bleeds whenever a demon, let alone a Godhand, is close), driving her insane, and leaving her in an AngstComa. This act also corrupts her child, turning it into a warped FetusTerrible, which Femto eventually bodyjacks so that he might be reincarnated into the world, setting himself up as a DarkMessiah. Femto later fuses the mundane world and the supernatural worlds together. Defined by his [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], and positive that DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, he is a figure of utter hatred to those who know his true nature.

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* CompleteMonster: Even in this CrapsackWorld, a few characters stand out.
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** [[Characters/BerserkGriffithFemto Griffith/Femto]] is the Fifth Member of the Godhand. When he was still human, he was a cold-blooded narcissist who dreamed of ruling his own kingdom no matter what it took, was willing to use his friends to commit political assassinations for him, and displayed intensely jealous behavior towards Casca and Guts. Realizing his followers are able to lead their lives without him, Griffith, in his rage at them daring to care for people besides himself, summons the Godhand, damning their souls in return for becoming the godlike Femto. With his newfound power, Griffith, as Femto rapes Casca while forcing Guts to watch, her Brand of Sacrifice causing her so much pain from his action that she is driven to a comatose state. This act also corrupts her child, turning it into a warped FetusTerrible, which Femto eventually bodyjacks so that he might be reincarnated into the world, setting himself up as a DarkMessiah. Femto later fuses the mundane world and the supernatural worlds together. Defined by his [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], and positive that DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, he is a figure of utter hatred to those who know his true nature.
** [[PsychoForHire Wyald]] is one of the first Apostles encountered and one of the nastiest pieces of work that Guts and company meet before the Eclipse goes down. A depraved hedonist, he works for the King of Midland and leads a band of mercenaries made up of the worst murderers, rapists and all around scum that Midland has to offer.offer--and even they are terrified of him. His motto is "Excitement and Enjoyment," which translates to [[RapePillageAndBurn raping and murdering]] dozens, including children. He demonstrates [[BadBoss an utter disregard for his men's lives]], frequently triggering traps and getting them killed, solely so that he can laugh at their deaths. After transforming into his true shape, of a [[KillerGorilla fifty-foot tall gorilla]] with a three-foot thick spiky penis, he attempts to rape Casca with it, bragging that she'll "feel like a virgin again" as it rips her in two. Even his own men, the aforementioned worst scum of the kingdom, follow him mainly because they are ''utterly terrified'' of him.
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** [[AdiposeRex Ganishka]], the Emperor of Kushan, became insanely paranoid when his mother tried to poison him for his younger brother to become the heir, only for the brother not to survive. His paranoia got to the point where his own son tried to kill him out of fear he would see his son as a threat. After accepting the Godhand's offer he has become a near-perfect example of TheCaligula, which shows in mass executions, ethnic cleansing, using conquered populations as human shields or cannon fodder for his armies, attempting to rape the captive princess Charlotte and suspending women over a pool filled with hungry crocodiles, and dropping thousands of ''pregnant'' women into cauldrons with stitched-together Apostles to turn the unborn babies into half-human demons that rip apart their mothers upon birth. Grandiose, megalomaniacal, and obsessed with his position as TheEmperor, Ganishka revels in being as evil as he possibly can be.\n** [[Characters/BerserkGriffithFemto Griffith/Femto]] is the Fifth Member of the Godhand. When he was still human, he was a cold-blooded narcissist who dreamed of ruling his own kingdom no matter what it took, was willing to use his friends to commit political assassinations for him, and displayed intensely jealous behavior towards Casca and Guts. Realizing his followers are able to lead their lives without him, Griffith, in his rage at them daring to care for people besides himself, summons the Godhand, damning their souls in return for becoming the godlike Femto. As Femto, his first act is to rape Casca while forcing Guts to watch, causing her intense agony through her Brand of Sacrifice (which bleeds whenever a demon, let alone a Godhand, is close), driving her insane, and leaving her in an AngstComa. This act also corrupts her child, turning it into a warped FetusTerrible, which Femto eventually bodyjacks so that he might be reincarnated into the world, setting himself up as a DarkMessiah. Femto later fuses the mundane world and the supernatural worlds together. Defined by his [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], and positive that DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, he is a figure of utter hatred to those who know his true nature.
26th Mar '18 11:55:04 AM ACW
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** [[Characters/BerserkGriffithFemto Griffith/Femto]] is the Fifth Member of the Godhand. When he was still human, he was a cold-blooded narcissist who dreamed of ruling his own kingdom no matter what it took, was willing to use his friends to commit political assassinations for him, and displayed intensely jealous behavior towards Casca and Guts. Realizing his followers are able to lead their lives without him, Griffith, in his rage at them daring to care for people besides himself, summons the Godhand, damning their souls in return for becoming the godlike Femto. As Femto, his first act is to rape Casca while forcing Guts to watch, causing her intense agony through her Brand of Sacrifice (which bleeds whenever a demon, let alone a Godhand, is close), driving her insane, and leaving her in a permanent AngstComa. This act also corrupts her child, turning it into a warped FetusTerrible, which Femto eventually bodyjacks so that he might be reincarnated into the world, setting himself up as a DarkMessiah. Femto later fuses the mundane world and the supernatural worlds together. Defined by his [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], and positive that DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, he is a figure of utter hatred to those who know his true nature.

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** [[Characters/BerserkGriffithFemto Griffith/Femto]] is the Fifth Member of the Godhand. When he was still human, he was a cold-blooded narcissist who dreamed of ruling his own kingdom no matter what it took, was willing to use his friends to commit political assassinations for him, and displayed intensely jealous behavior towards Casca and Guts. Realizing his followers are able to lead their lives without him, Griffith, in his rage at them daring to care for people besides himself, summons the Godhand, damning their souls in return for becoming the godlike Femto. As Femto, his first act is to rape Casca while forcing Guts to watch, causing her intense agony through her Brand of Sacrifice (which bleeds whenever a demon, let alone a Godhand, is close), driving her insane, and leaving her in a permanent an AngstComa. This act also corrupts her child, turning it into a warped FetusTerrible, which Femto eventually bodyjacks so that he might be reincarnated into the world, setting himself up as a DarkMessiah. Femto later fuses the mundane world and the supernatural worlds together. Defined by his [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], and positive that DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, he is a figure of utter hatred to those who know his true nature.
26th Mar '18 11:43:31 AM ACW
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** [[Characters/BerserkGriffithFemto Griffith/Femto]] is the Fifth Member of the Godhand. When he was still human, he was a cold-blooded narcissist who dreamed of ruling his own kingdom no matter what it took, was willing to use his friends to commit political assassinations for him, and displayed intensely jealous behavior towards Casca and Guts. Realizing his followers are able to lead their lives without him, Griffith, in his rage at them daring to care for people besides himself, summons the Godhand, damning their souls in return for becoming the godlike Femto." As Femto, his first act is to rape Casca while forcing Guts to watch, causing her intense agony through her Brand of Sacrifice (which bleeds whenever a demon, let alone a Godhand, is close), driving her insane, and leaving her in a permanent AngstComa. This act also corrupts her child, turning it into a warped FetusTerrible, which Femto eventually bodyjacks so that he might be reincarnated into the world, setting himself up as a DarkMessiah. Femto later fuses the mundane world and the supernatural worlds together. Defined by his [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], and positive that DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, he is a figure of utter hatred to those who know his true nature.

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** [[Characters/BerserkGriffithFemto Griffith/Femto]] is the Fifth Member of the Godhand. When he was still human, he was a cold-blooded narcissist who dreamed of ruling his own kingdom no matter what it took, was willing to use his friends to commit political assassinations for him, and displayed intensely jealous behavior towards Casca and Guts. Realizing his followers are able to lead their lives without him, Griffith, in his rage at them daring to care for people besides himself, summons the Godhand, damning their souls in return for becoming the godlike Femto." As Femto, his first act is to rape Casca while forcing Guts to watch, causing her intense agony through her Brand of Sacrifice (which bleeds whenever a demon, let alone a Godhand, is close), driving her insane, and leaving her in a permanent AngstComa. This act also corrupts her child, turning it into a warped FetusTerrible, which Femto eventually bodyjacks so that he might be reincarnated into the world, setting himself up as a DarkMessiah. Femto later fuses the mundane world and the supernatural worlds together. Defined by his [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], and positive that DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, he is a figure of utter hatred to those who know his true nature.
26th Mar '18 11:40:03 AM ACW
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** [[EvilFormerFriend Griffith/Femto]] is the Fifth Member of the Godhand. When he was still human, he was a cold blooded narcissist who dreamed of ruling his own kingdom no matter what it took, was willing to use his friends to commit political assassinations for him, and displayed intensely jealous behaviour towards Casca and Guts. When he realizes that his TrueCompanions no longer need him to lead them and care more about each other than they do about him, he crosses the DespairEventHorizon and the MoralEventHorizon in a single go, summoning the Godhand, sacrificing his friends in an incredibly gruesome manner, and damning their souls to an eternity in Hell so that he can become Femto. As Femto, his first act is to rape Casca while forcing Guts to watch, causing her intense agony through her Brand of Sacrifice (which bleeds whenever a demon, let alone a Godhand is close), driving her insane, and leaving her in a permanent AngstComa. This act also corrupts her child, turning it into a warped FetusTerrible, which Femto eventually bodyjacks so that he might be reincarnated into the world, setting himself up as a DarkMessiah. Femto later tops himself by fusing the mundane world and the supernatural worlds together, which, in a harsh world like that of Berserk, is a very horrible sign of things to come. Defined by his selfishness, and positive that DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, he is a figure of utter hatred to those who know his true nature.

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** [[EvilFormerFriend [[Characters/BerserkGriffithFemto Griffith/Femto]] is the Fifth Member of the Godhand. When he was still human, he was a cold blooded cold-blooded narcissist who dreamed of ruling his own kingdom no matter what it took, was willing to use his friends to commit political assassinations for him, and displayed intensely jealous behaviour behavior towards Casca and Guts. When he realizes that Realizing his TrueCompanions no longer need him followers are able to lead their lives without him, Griffith, in his rage at them and daring to care more about each other than they do about him, he crosses the DespairEventHorizon and the MoralEventHorizon in a single go, summoning for people besides himself, summons the Godhand, sacrificing his friends in an incredibly gruesome manner, and damning their souls to an eternity in Hell so that he can become Femto. return for becoming the godlike Femto." As Femto, his first act is to rape Casca while forcing Guts to watch, causing her intense agony through her Brand of Sacrifice (which bleeds whenever a demon, let alone a Godhand Godhand, is close), driving her insane, and leaving her in a permanent AngstComa. This act also corrupts her child, turning it into a warped FetusTerrible, which Femto eventually bodyjacks so that he might be reincarnated into the world, setting himself up as a DarkMessiah. Femto later tops himself by fusing fuses the mundane world and the supernatural worlds together, which, in a harsh world like that of Berserk, is a very horrible sign of things to come. together. Defined by his selfishness, [[ItsAllAboutMe selfishness]], and positive that DespotismJustifiesTheMeans, he is a figure of utter hatred to those who know his true nature.
21st Mar '18 9:55:21 PM Draghinazzo
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* TheChrisCarterEffect: Many fans expressed concern that the readers would give up on the series out of frustration if Guts and the gang didn't [[MemeticMutation get off the damn boat]] soon and get Casca's insanity plotline resolved after a seven to eight year wait. Upon the party ''finally'' arriving at Elfheim, and [[spoiler: Casca waking up, presumably restored after Schierke and Farnese's efforts]], there has been much rejoicing, with people considering it ''long'' overdue.

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* TheChrisCarterEffect: Many fans expressed concern that the readers would give up on the series out of frustration if Guts and the gang didn't [[MemeticMutation get off the damn boat]] soon and get Casca's insanity plotline resolved after a seven to eight year wait. Upon the party ''finally'' arriving at Elfheim, and [[spoiler: Casca waking up, presumably ''finally'' restored after Schierke and Farnese's efforts]], there has been much rejoicing, with people considering it ''long'' overdue.
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