History YMMV / Berserk

12th Feb '17 9:47:21 PM TheBigBopper
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* NarmCharm:
** The Engrish opening and ending themes for the anime are simultaneously [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments hilarious]] and SugarWiki/{{awesome|Music}}. The ending, with its droning, melancholy tone takes a few levels in chill factor in the last episode.
12th Feb '17 9:36:21 PM TheBigBopper
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** In the second movie, Charlotte's over the top reaction to Griffith merely ''touching'' her breast.
12th Feb '17 1:16:38 PM TheNewBig
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** It might give one a really weird, even disturbing, feeling when reading volume 9 where Guts described how Gambino sold him out to Donovan [[spoiler:as a child prostitute]] or just how he was treated like shit by this complete asshole his entire childhood… and Guts doesn't say ''one'' bad thing about Gambino, a guy who downright said that the kid disgusted him and that he should have died instead of Sys (who was one of the few people who truly loved Guts in his whole life, along with Casca and a few of the Hawks Raiders and Guts' new TrueCompanions in a hero-worship-y kinda way), just leaving little Guts utterly heartbroken to tears. Just looking at how a guy who [[UnstoppableRage runs on rage]] when fighting monsters, [[ThePowerOfHate seethes with hatred]] toward the man who betrayed him in the same fashion, and is [[ImplacableMan brutal toward anyone]] who gets in his way ([[DeclarationOfProtection for better goals]] or [[{{Revenge}} for not so good goals]]) and how he doesn't show any animosity toward the man who orchestrated such an horrific, traumatizing evil kinda says that if there is one magical entity that needs to manifest itself, now that the magic has come back to the world, [[ThereAreNoTherapists it's counselors]].

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** It might give one a really weird, even disturbing, feeling when reading volume 9 where Guts described how Gambino sold him out to Donovan [[spoiler:as a child prostitute]] or just how he was treated like shit by this complete asshole his entire childhood… and Guts doesn't say ''one'' bad thing about Gambino, a guy who downright said that the kid disgusted him and that he should have died instead of Sys (who was one of the few people who truly loved Guts in his whole life, along with Casca and a few of the Hawks Raiders and Guts' new TrueCompanions in a hero-worship-y kinda way), just leaving little Guts utterly heartbroken to tears. Just looking at how a guy who [[UnstoppableRage runs on rage]] when fighting monsters, [[ThePowerOfHate seethes with hatred]] toward the man who betrayed him in the same fashion, and is [[ImplacableMan brutal toward anyone]] who gets in his way ([[DeclarationOfProtection for better goals]] or [[{{Revenge}} for not so good goals]]) and it's truly jarring, even disgusting how he doesn't show any the least bit of animosity toward the man who orchestrated such an horrific, traumatizing evil kinda says that if there is one magical entity that needs to manifest itself, now that the magic has come back to the world, [[ThereAreNoTherapists it's counselors]].evil.


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** Griffith achieves victory after victory, even managing to win back Doldrey and put an end to a 100-year war with another kingdom. Instead of appreciating his loyalty to king and country, the Queen and her cohorts decide to assassinate him, simply because they can't stomach his lack of noble blood. The Queen shows no remorse for her betrayal, even when the news of [[spoiler:his apparent death]] drives her daughter to tears. Of course, in the manga, she ''did'' have another, much more understandable reason, but in the anime she has no such excuse.
7th Feb '17 1:42:38 AM DrPsyche
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*** The 1997 anime has been praised for its tone, and having enough room to slowly build the story up and flesh out the themes and characters. It's also been criticized for its extremely limited animation and the story just ending on a cliff-hanger never to be resolved.
*** The Creator/Studio4C films are praised for their better animation, still capturing the important points of the main story, and having an ending that resolves what happened even while leaving the future open-ended. As noted below in ItsTheSameNowItSucks, the films are criticized for abridging and condensing the story too much, and the ConspicuousCG really clashing with the animation around it.
*** The 2016 anime has some fans for being a decent PragmaticAdaptation and finally adapting the manga past the Golden Age Arc. Others think it's plot is a poorly paced mess that drops too many elements. Much like the previous films there's the debate over the CGI and hand drawn animation; it's either a medium blend that does work from time to time, or it's just hideous.

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*** The 1997 anime ''Anime/Berserk1997'' has been praised for its tone, and having enough room to slowly build the story up and flesh out the themes and characters. It's also been criticized for its extremely limited animation and the story just ending on a cliff-hanger never to be resolved.
*** The Creator/Studio4C ''Anime/BerserkTheGoldenAgeArc'' films are praised for their better animation, still capturing the important points of the main story, and having an ending that resolves what happened even while leaving the future open-ended. As noted below in ItsTheSameNowItSucks, the films are criticized for abridging and condensing the story too much, and the ConspicuousCG really clashing with the animation around it.
*** The 2016 anime ''Anime/Berserk2016'' has some fans for being a decent PragmaticAdaptation and finally adapting the manga past the Golden Age Arc. Others think it's plot is a poorly paced mess that drops too many elements. Much like the previous films there's the debate over the CGI and hand drawn animation; it's either a medium blend that does work from time to time, or it's just hideous.
4th Feb '17 11:57:51 PM DrPsyche
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** Conrad is the OddOneOut of the Godhand in that he really isn't scary. Not only does he have the least threatening name, but his design invokes none of the BodyHorror nor the UncannyValley that the others do, and he just looks like a really fat dude who keeps his eyes shut. His voice sounds like a high-pitched guy who's out of breath and it's probably for the best that he's the least important of the five.

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** Conrad is the OddOneOut odd one out of the Godhand in that he really isn't scary. Not only does he have the least threatening name, but his design invokes none of the BodyHorror nor the UncannyValley that the others do, and he just looks like a really fat dude who keeps his eyes shut. His voice sounds like a high-pitched guy who's out of breath and it's probably for the best that he's the least important of the five.
4th Feb '17 11:57:22 PM DrPsyche
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** Conrad is the OddOneOut of the Godhand in that he really isn't scary. Not only does he have the least threatening name, but his design invokes none of the BodyHorror nor the UncannyValley that the others do, and he just looks like a really fat dude who keeps his eyes shut. His voice sounds like a high-pitched guy who's out of breath and it's probably for the best that he's the least important of the five.
2nd Feb '17 10:50:53 PM DrPsyche
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: It goes like this on forums.
** Griffith Fans: "I know that what Griffith did during the end of the Eclipse was wrong, [[AboveGoodAndEvil but he's too complex to be considered downright evil.]]"
** Non-Griffith Fans: "[[NoJustNoReaction ... No.]]" or "I like Griffith - as a ''villain''."

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It goes like this on forums.
** *** Griffith Fans: "I know that what Griffith did during the end of the Eclipse was wrong, [[AboveGoodAndEvil but he's too complex to be considered downright evil.]]"
** *** Non-Griffith Fans: "[[NoJustNoReaction ... No.]]" or "I like Griffith - as a ''villain''.""
** When Adon makes a disparaging remark about Casca sleeping with Griffith to get ahead in the Hawks, is he only making fun of her? Or, as a servant of Lord Gennon whose "tastes" are an open secret, was Adon also making a more subtle remark against Griffith?
2nd Feb '17 2:30:15 AM DrPsyche
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* CounterpartComparison: Minister Foss draws a lot of comparisons to Varys of ''Literature/ASongOfIceAndFire''. They're both bald {{Non Action Guy}}s who serve the court with humility and an honest desire to see their kingdom thrive. Both are {{Manipulative Bastard}}s who play court politics and Foss's more heroic development lends comparisons to Varys's in ''Series/GameOfThrones'' the show.
2nd Feb '17 1:35:20 AM DrPsyche
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** Is all of the depiction of sexual assault and rape part of Berserk's unflinchingly honest perspective on the worst aspects of the human condition, or is it [[GratuitousRape gratuitously offensive]] and the result of lazy writing? There's fans who argue the former, others who argue the latter, and still others who sit somewhere in the middle.

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*** The 2016 anime has some fans for being a decent PragmaticAdaptation and finally adapting the manga past the Golden Age Arc. Others think it's plot is a poorly paced mess that drops too many elements. Much like the previous films there's the debate over the CGI and hand drawn animation; it's either a medium blend that does work from time to time, or it's just hideous.
** Is all of the depiction of sexual assault and rape part of Berserk's unflinchingly honest perspective on the worst aspects of the human condition, or is it [[GratuitousRape gratuitously offensive]] and the result of lazy writing? There's fans who argue the former, others who argue the latter, and still others who sit somewhere in the middle. Similarly the adaptations differing approaches to these scenes feeds to the BrokenBase over which handled the material better.
1st Feb '17 4:19:28 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** Puck is hated by some readers who dislike his breaking the fourth wall antics, and think that he doesn't fit the work's [[{{DarkerAndEdgier}} Grimdark]] tone. Others actually liked him earlier when he had more of a serious role and acted as Guts' conscience as well as a small spot of light and humor, but feel like he's been [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] as silly comic relief since the ''Chapter of the Holy Evil War''. With the growth of Guts' party so that he isn't as important, he has little to do but go chibi and make pop culture references that are lost on the non-Japanese readers.

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** Puck is hated by some readers who dislike his breaking the fourth wall antics, and think that he doesn't fit the work's [[{{DarkerAndEdgier}} [[DarkerAndEdgier Grimdark]] tone. Others actually liked him earlier when he had more of a serious role and acted as Guts' conscience as well as a small spot of light and humor, but feel like he's been [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] as silly comic relief since the ''Chapter of the Holy Evil War''. With the growth of Guts' party so that he isn't as important, he has little to do but go chibi and make pop culture references that are lost on the non-Japanese readers.
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