History YMMV / Beowulf

5th Sep '16 9:46:52 AM erforce
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!! ''Beowulf''

!!! [[Literature/{{Beowulf}} Poem]]



* TheWoobie: Poor, poor Hrothgar. You just want to build the next wonder of the world, and for years to come a monster is feasting on your men, and you know you can't do anything about it. When you finally get rid of the monster, another one comes and kills one of your best warriors. When ''that'' one is taken care of, you're so grateful towards the hero that did it that you hope to meet him again, but know that you won't because you're dying, and after you're dead, your prized hall is destroyed and your nephew, who you hope to watch over your sons, ends up killing them. Hrothgar's life ''sucks.''

!!! [[Film/{{Beowulf}} 2007 film]]

* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Creator/IdinaMenzel singing ''"A Hero Comes Home"'' is just beautiful.
* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Jolie emerging slowly from the water is probably the first thing people will recall about the film. That or Beowulf fighting naked.
* EvilIsSexy: Grendel's Mother.
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Stories of heroism are basically lies told in order to cover up questionable or outright shitty behavior, and by the time you realize you shouldn't have told the story in the first place, you'll be too old and filled with regret for it to matter. This isn't entirely untrue - see Plato's Republic for more on the dangers of "true" heroic stories.
* FanficFuel: The Mother's unknown background and the established setting of her seducing young heroes in order to mate with them and give birth to monsters is more than enough to stimulate the mind of many fanfic writers.
* GeniusBonus: Grendel's Mother having unnatural feet calls to mind numerous demons in various world mythologies who were said to have bird/beast-like feet. Usually this was to indicate that they were not human.
* HilariousInHindsight: After Beowulf tears off Grendel's arm, King Hrothgar (played by {{Creator/Anthony Hopkins}}) says "Odin be praised." [[{{Film/Thor}} Guess he heard his praise after all...]]
** This wouldn't be the last time {{Creator/Angelina Jolie}} played a supernatural creature who has [[Film/{{Maleficent}} a dark past with a human king]].
* {{Narm}}:
** Naked Beowulf, and the SceneryCensor the animators employ to hide his penis. It's hard to find a critic who didn't compare this to ''Film/AustinPowers''.
** Grendel's character design, while pretty disturbing in its own right, can pass for downright silly. Some noted that he is made to look like a giant fish finger.
** Grendel's mother's high heels.
* NarmCharm: In a movie where the protagonist is the largest of {{Large Ham}}s, this isn't surprising. Other characters [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CavYj784Y8Y get in on the action, too]].
* NightmareFuel:
** As Grendel's Mother lays Grendel's body to rest, she is humming and quietly sobbing. Eventually her wailing degenerates into an utterly blood-curdling shriek that echoes throughout the mountains. Grendel's Mother is the original MamaBear in Anglo-Saxon folklore, and a viewer knows then and there that she is ''pissed beyond all reason and is coming for revenge''.
** The loss of Grendel's arm. Instead of just ripping it off, Beowulf pulls it taut with a chain and ''crushes'' it off by slamming Herot's door on it repeatedly while Grendel desperately tries to tell the Geats that he's not a demon and cries in fear as Beowulf screams at him.
** Both of Beowulf's nightmares have this. The first has Grendel's mother under the guise of Wealthow appearing to Beowulf as he sleeps, and the scariest part (after which [[CatapultNightmare Beowulf sits bolt upright as he wakes up]]) is when Wealthow says, "Enter me and give me a SON!", because as she says it, her face [[NightmareFace becomes fanged and monstrous]], and she lunges ''straight at the camera''. *shudder* Something similar happens in Beowulf's second nightmare [[spoiler:only with his own son with Grendel's mother instead, when he says "I'm something you left behind... FATHER!" You can briefly see his human face as he says the first part, only to transform into the dragon's face upon the last word]], again coming right at the audience. Sleep tight.
* OlderThanTheyThink: This film is often accused of plagiarizing ''Film/ThreeHundred'', with the line [[SayMyName "I! AM! BEOWULF!"]] being a bit too similar to "THIS! IS! SPARTA!" and the line "TONIGHT! WILL BE DIFFERENT!" being rather akin to "TONIGHT! WE DINE! IN HELL!" What these people don't realize is that there's a thing called AnimationLeadTime. Filming of ''Beowulf'' was done long before filming of ''300'' began.
* StoicWoobie: Wealthow verges on this when she looks a bit sad at the beginning of the movie.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Beowulf's decision to [[spoiler:accept treat of Grendel's mother]] might come just from power hunger, but considering that she is apparently a magical and indestructible creature, and that at least he got some decades of peace for his kingdom by doing it, one has to wonder if he had another option besides still try to fight her, get killed for the efforts and spin the wheel again.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: A ''few'' people were ''somewhat miffed'' about the changes made between poem and film. Others shrugged and said, "It's a ''really'' old poem, and adaptations are par for the course."
* UncannyValley: A bit disturbing at first, but gets better as the film goes on. Clearly, the crew learned a few things from ''Literature/ThePolarExpress''. For the most part, the expressions and characters themselves don't invoke this a whole lot. But there is a slightly creepy air whenever they're prominently handling objects or interacting with them, due to the objects not seeming to have any weight and simply "float" in the characters' hands.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Director Robert Zemeckis had originally intended to release an NC-17 version for IMAX theatres and a PG-13 version for regular theatres but was forced by Paramount to deliver an R rating. The final version was rated PG-13, which surprised many people on the production (including Angelina Jolie, who did not see the film as family-friendly and refused to let her children see it).
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* TheWoobie: Poor, poor Hrothgar. You just want to build the next wonder of the world, and for years to come a monster is feasting on your men, and you know you can't do anything about it. When you finally get rid of the monster, another one comes and kills one of your best warriors. When ''that'' one is taken care of, you're so grateful towards the hero that did it that you hope to meet him again, but know that you won't because you're dying, and after you're dead, your prized hall is destroyed and your nephew, who you hope to watch over your sons, ends up killing them. Hrothgar's life ''sucks.''

!!! [[Film/{{Beowulf}} 2007 film]]

* SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Creator/IdinaMenzel singing ''"A Hero Comes Home"'' is just beautiful.
* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Jolie emerging slowly from the water is probably the first thing people will recall about the film. That or Beowulf fighting naked.
* EvilIsSexy: Grendel's Mother.
* FamilyUnfriendlyAesop: Stories of heroism are basically lies told in order to cover up questionable or outright shitty behavior, and by the time you realize you shouldn't have told the story in the first place, you'll be too old and filled with regret for it to matter. This isn't entirely untrue - see Plato's Republic for more on the dangers of "true" heroic stories.
* FanficFuel: The Mother's unknown background and the established setting of her seducing young heroes in order to mate with them and give birth to monsters is more than enough to stimulate the mind of many fanfic writers.
* GeniusBonus: Grendel's Mother having unnatural feet calls to mind numerous demons in various world mythologies who were said to have bird/beast-like feet. Usually this was to indicate that they were not human.
* HilariousInHindsight: After Beowulf tears off Grendel's arm, King Hrothgar (played by {{Creator/Anthony Hopkins}}) says "Odin be praised." [[{{Film/Thor}} Guess he heard his praise after all...]]
** This wouldn't be the last time {{Creator/Angelina Jolie}} played a supernatural creature who has [[Film/{{Maleficent}} a dark past with a human king]].
* {{Narm}}:
** Naked Beowulf, and the SceneryCensor the animators employ to hide his penis. It's hard to find a critic who didn't compare this to ''Film/AustinPowers''.
** Grendel's character design, while pretty disturbing in its own right, can pass for downright silly. Some noted that he is made to look like a giant fish finger.
** Grendel's mother's high heels.
* NarmCharm: In a movie where the protagonist is the largest of {{Large Ham}}s, this isn't surprising. Other characters [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CavYj784Y8Y get in on the action, too]].
* NightmareFuel:
** As Grendel's Mother lays Grendel's body to rest, she is humming and quietly sobbing. Eventually her wailing degenerates into an utterly blood-curdling shriek that echoes throughout the mountains. Grendel's Mother is the original MamaBear in Anglo-Saxon folklore, and a viewer knows then and there that she is ''pissed beyond all reason and is coming for revenge''.
** The loss of Grendel's arm. Instead of just ripping it off, Beowulf pulls it taut with a chain and ''crushes'' it off by slamming Herot's door on it repeatedly while Grendel desperately tries to tell the Geats that he's not a demon and cries in fear as Beowulf screams at him.
** Both of Beowulf's nightmares have this. The first has Grendel's mother under the guise of Wealthow appearing to Beowulf as he sleeps, and the scariest part (after which [[CatapultNightmare Beowulf sits bolt upright as he wakes up]]) is when Wealthow says, "Enter me and give me a SON!", because as she says it, her face [[NightmareFace becomes fanged and monstrous]], and she lunges ''straight at the camera''. *shudder* Something similar happens in Beowulf's second nightmare [[spoiler:only with his own son with Grendel's mother instead, when he says "I'm something you left behind... FATHER!" You can briefly see his human face as he says the first part, only to transform into the dragon's face upon the last word]], again coming right at the audience. Sleep tight.
* OlderThanTheyThink: This film is often accused of plagiarizing ''Film/ThreeHundred'', with the line [[SayMyName "I! AM! BEOWULF!"]] being a bit too similar to "THIS! IS! SPARTA!" and the line "TONIGHT! WILL BE DIFFERENT!" being rather akin to "TONIGHT! WE DINE! IN HELL!" What these people don't realize is that there's a thing called AnimationLeadTime. Filming of ''Beowulf'' was done long before filming of ''300'' began.
* StoicWoobie: Wealthow verges on this when she looks a bit sad at the beginning of the movie.
* StrawmanHasAPoint: Beowulf's decision to [[spoiler:accept treat of Grendel's mother]] might come just from power hunger, but considering that she is apparently a magical and indestructible creature, and that at least he got some decades of peace for his kingdom by doing it, one has to wonder if he had another option besides still try to fight her, get killed for the efforts and spin the wheel again.
* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: A ''few'' people were ''somewhat miffed'' about the changes made between poem and film. Others shrugged and said, "It's a ''really'' old poem, and adaptations are par for the course."
* UncannyValley: A bit disturbing at first, but gets better as the film goes on. Clearly, the crew learned a few things from ''Literature/ThePolarExpress''. For the most part, the expressions and characters themselves don't invoke this a whole lot. But there is a slightly creepy air whenever they're prominently handling objects or interacting with them, due to the objects not seeming to have any weight and simply "float" in the characters' hands.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Director Robert Zemeckis had originally intended to release an NC-17 version for IMAX theatres and a PG-13 version for regular theatres but was forced by Paramount to deliver an R rating. The final version was rated PG-13, which surprised many people on the production (including Angelina Jolie, who did not see the film as family-friendly and refused to let her children see it).
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19th Aug '16 12:37:05 AM axle-k89
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** Both of Beowulf's nightmares have this. The first has Grendel's mother under the guise of Wealthow appearing to Beowulf as he sleeps, and the scariest part (after which [[CatapultNightmare Beowulf sits bolt upright as he wakes up]]) is when Wealthow says, "Enter me and give me a SON!", because as she says it, her face becomes fanged and monstrous, and she lunges ''straight at the camera''. *shudder* Something similar happens in Beowulf's second nightmare [[spoiler:only with his own son with Grendel's mother instead, when he says "I'm something you left behind... FATHER!" You can briefly see his human face as he says the first part, only to transform into the dragon's face upon the last word]], again coming right at the audience. Sleep tight.

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** Both of Beowulf's nightmares have this. The first has Grendel's mother under the guise of Wealthow appearing to Beowulf as he sleeps, and the scariest part (after which [[CatapultNightmare Beowulf sits bolt upright as he wakes up]]) is when Wealthow says, "Enter me and give me a SON!", because as she says it, her face [[NightmareFace becomes fanged and monstrous, monstrous]], and she lunges ''straight at the camera''. *shudder* Something similar happens in Beowulf's second nightmare [[spoiler:only with his own son with Grendel's mother instead, when he says "I'm something you left behind... FATHER!" You can briefly see his human face as he says the first part, only to transform into the dragon's face upon the last word]], again coming right at the audience. Sleep tight.
19th Aug '16 12:36:20 AM axle-k89
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** Both of Beowulf's nightmares have this. The first has Grendel's mother under the guise of Wealthow appearing to Beowulf as he sleeps, and the scariest part (after which [[CatapultNightmare Beowulf sits bolt upright as he wakes up]]) is when Wealthow says, "Enter me and give me a SON!", because as she says it, her face becomes fanged and monstrous, and she lunges ''straight at the camera''. *shudder* Something similar happens in Beowulf's second nightmare [[spoiler:only with his own son with Grendel's mother instead, when he says "I'm something you left behind... FATHER!" You can briefly see his human face as he says the first part, only to transform into the dragon's face upon the last word, again coming at the audience. Sleep tight.

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** Both of Beowulf's nightmares have this. The first has Grendel's mother under the guise of Wealthow appearing to Beowulf as he sleeps, and the scariest part (after which [[CatapultNightmare Beowulf sits bolt upright as he wakes up]]) is when Wealthow says, "Enter me and give me a SON!", because as she says it, her face becomes fanged and monstrous, and she lunges ''straight at the camera''. *shudder* Something similar happens in Beowulf's second nightmare [[spoiler:only with his own son with Grendel's mother instead, when he says "I'm something you left behind... FATHER!" You can briefly see his human face as he says the first part, only to transform into the dragon's face upon the last word, word]], again coming right at the audience. Sleep tight.
19th Aug '16 12:35:37 AM axle-k89
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** Both of Beowulf's nightmares have this. The first has Grendel's mother under the guise of Wealthow appearing to Beowulf as he sleeps, and the scariest part (after which [[CatapultNightmare Beowulf sits bolt upright as he wakes up]]) is when Wealthow says, "Enter me and give me a SON!", because as she says it, her face becomes fanged and monstrous, and she lunges ''straight at the camera''. *shudder* Something similar happens in Beowulf's second nightmare [[spoiler:only with his own son with Grendel's mother instead, when he says "I'm something you left behind... FATHER!" You can briefly see his human face as he says the first part, only to transform into the dragon's face upon the last word, again coming at the audience. Sleep tight.
17th Jul '16 6:14:53 AM jormis29
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** Although the text repeatedly conveys that Beowulf's defeat of Grendel was a noble act, the description of the scene is so bone-crunchingly brutal that it makes Beowulf look downright sadistic. You almost feel sorry for Grendel. This is part of the reason that more people are making Grendel a DracoInLeatherPants in modern times. The mere fact that Grendel is a descendant of [[Literature/TheBible Cain]] would've struck most Anglo-Saxons as reason enough for Grendel to be deserving of his miserable life in the swamp--to a modern reader, punishing someone for their ancestor's deeds just comes across as petty.

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** Although the text repeatedly conveys that Beowulf's defeat of Grendel was a noble act, the description of the scene is so bone-crunchingly brutal that it makes Beowulf look downright sadistic. You almost feel sorry for Grendel. This is part of the reason that more people are making Grendel a DracoInLeatherPants in modern times. The mere fact that Grendel is [[TheDescendantsOfCain a descendant of [[Literature/TheBible Cain]] would've struck most Anglo-Saxons as reason enough for Grendel to be deserving of his miserable life in the swamp--to a modern reader, punishing someone for their ancestor's deeds just comes across as petty.
12th Jul '16 11:31:47 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Grendel is the kind of CompleteMonster that kills warriors in their sleep, rips them to shreds, and eats them on the spot. Yet, a lot of adaptations, such as John Gardner's ''Literature/{{Grendel}}'', the 2005 film ''Beowulf and Grendel'', and the 2007 film, tend to portray Grendel sympathetically, despite the fact that in the poem, out of the three monsters, he's the one the narrator condemns the harshest and the most often.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Grendel is the kind of CompleteMonster monster that kills warriors in their sleep, rips them to shreds, and eats them on the spot. Yet, a lot of adaptations, such as John Gardner's ''Literature/{{Grendel}}'', the 2005 film ''Beowulf and Grendel'', and the 2007 film, tend to portray Grendel sympathetically, despite the fact that in the poem, out of the three monsters, he's the one the narrator condemns the harshest and the most often.



* StrawmanHasAPoint: Beowulf's decision to [[spoiler:accept treat of Grendel's mother]] might come just from power hunger, but considering that she is apparently a magical and indestructible creature, and that at least he got some decades of peace for his kingdom by doing it, one has to wonder if he had another option besides still try to fight her, get killed for the efforts and spin the wheel again. (see Villain Sue below)

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* StrawmanHasAPoint: Beowulf's decision to [[spoiler:accept treat of Grendel's mother]] might come just from power hunger, but considering that she is apparently a magical and indestructible creature, and that at least he got some decades of peace for his kingdom by doing it, one has to wonder if he had another option besides still try to fight her, get killed for the efforts and spin the wheel again. (see Villain Sue below)



* TheyJustDidntCare: Robert Zemeckis openly expressed his hatred for the poem on which it was based, so all the nuance and meaning of the poem is completely ignored, radically changing the story and essentially making it an InNameOnly adaptation.
4th May '16 2:25:16 PM margdean56
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** Although the text repeatedly conveys that Beowulf's defeat of Grendel was a noble act, the description of the scene is so bone-crunchingly brutal that it makes Beowulf look downright sadistic. You almost feel sorry for Grendel. This is part of the reason that more people are making Grendel a DracoInLeatherPants in modern times. The mere fact that Grendel is a descendant of [[Literature/TheBible Cain]] would've struck most Anglo-Saxons as reason enough for Grendel to be deserving of his miserable life in the swamp- to a modern reader, punishing someone for their ancestor's deeds just comes across as petty.

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** Although the text repeatedly conveys that Beowulf's defeat of Grendel was a noble act, the description of the scene is so bone-crunchingly brutal that it makes Beowulf look downright sadistic. You almost feel sorry for Grendel. This is part of the reason that more people are making Grendel a DracoInLeatherPants in modern times. The mere fact that Grendel is a descendant of [[Literature/TheBible Cain]] would've struck most Anglo-Saxons as reason enough for Grendel to be deserving of his miserable life in the swamp- to swamp--to a modern reader, punishing someone for their ancestor's deeds just comes across as petty.
21st Apr '16 4:11:20 PM Angeldeb82
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* AwesomeMusic: Creator/IdinaMenzel singing ''"A Hero Comes Home"'' is just beautiful.

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* AwesomeMusic: SugarWiki/AwesomeMusic: Creator/IdinaMenzel singing ''"A Hero Comes Home"'' is just beautiful.



** Naked Beowulf, and the SceneryCensor the animators employ to hide his penis. It's hard to find a critic who didn't compare this to ''AustinPowers''.

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** Naked Beowulf, and the SceneryCensor the animators employ to hide his penis. It's hard to find a critic who didn't compare this to ''AustinPowers''.''Film/AustinPowers''.



* NarmCharm: In a movie where the protagonist is the largest of [[LargeHam Large Hams]], this isn't surprising. Other characters [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CavYj784Y8Y get in on the action, too.]]

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* NarmCharm: In a movie where the protagonist is the largest of [[LargeHam Large Hams]], {{Large Ham}}s, this isn't surprising. Other characters [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CavYj784Y8Y get in on the action, too.]]too]].



* OlderThanTheyThink: This film is often accused of plagiarizing ''[[ThreeHundred 300]]'', with the line [[SayMyName "I! AM! BEOWULF!"]] being a bit too similar to "THIS! IS! SPARTA!" and the line "TONIGHT! WILL BE DIFFERENT!" being rather akin to "TONIGHT! WE DINE! IN HELL!" What these people don't realize is that there's a thing called AnimationLeadTime. Filming of ''Beowulf'' was done long before filming of ''300'' began.

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* OlderThanTheyThink: This film is often accused of plagiarizing ''[[ThreeHundred 300]]'', ''Film/ThreeHundred'', with the line [[SayMyName "I! AM! BEOWULF!"]] being a bit too similar to "THIS! IS! SPARTA!" and the line "TONIGHT! WILL BE DIFFERENT!" being rather akin to "TONIGHT! WE DINE! IN HELL!" What these people don't realize is that there's a thing called AnimationLeadTime. Filming of ''Beowulf'' was done long before filming of ''300'' began.



* UncannyValley: A bit disturbing at first, but gets better as the film goes on. Clearly, the crew learned a few things from ''ThePolarExpress''. For the most part, the expressions and characters themselves don't invoke this a whole lot. But there is a slightly creepy air whenever they're prominently handling objects or interacting with them, due to the objects not seeming to have any weight and simply "float" in the characters' hands.
* VillainSue: As seen in her apparitions, there does not seem to be any way to harm Grendel's mother. While in the poem she is basically another hulking monster and Beowulf only has to overpower her to get the kill, the movie version's supernatural abilities give no reason to believe she is anything but invincible.

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* UncannyValley: A bit disturbing at first, but gets better as the film goes on. Clearly, the crew learned a few things from ''ThePolarExpress''.''Literature/ThePolarExpress''. For the most part, the expressions and characters themselves don't invoke this a whole lot. But there is a slightly creepy air whenever they're prominently handling objects or interacting with them, due to the objects not seeming to have any weight and simply "float" in the characters' hands.
* VillainSue: As seen in her apparitions, there does not seem to be any way to harm Grendel's mother. While in the poem she is basically another hulking monster and Beowulf only has to overpower her to get the kill, the movie version's supernatural abilities give no reason to believe she is anything but invincible.
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25th Mar '16 4:17:43 PM GothicProphet
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Director Robert Zemeckis had originally intended to release an NC-17 version for IMAX theatres and a PG-13 version for regular theatres but was forced by Paramount to deliver an R rating. The final version was rated PG-13, which surprised many people on the production (including Angelina Jolie, who did not see the film as family-friendly and refused to let her children see it).

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Director Robert Zemeckis had originally intended to release an NC-17 version for IMAX theatres and a PG-13 version for regular theatres but was forced by Paramount to deliver an R rating. The final version was rated PG-13, which surprised many people on the production (including Angelina Jolie, who did not see the film as family-friendly and refused to let her children see it).it).
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10th Mar '16 9:58:58 AM Cieloazul
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* AlternateCharacterInterpretation: Beowulf's decision to [[spoiler:mate with Grendel's mother and accept her treat]] might come just from power hunger, but considering that she is apparently a magical and indestructible creature, and that he at least got some decades of peace for his kingdom, one has to wonder if he had another option besides still try to fight her and get killed for the efforts. (see Villain Sue below)



* FanficFuel: The Mother's unknown background and the established setting of her seducing young heroes in order to give birth to monsters is more than enough to stimulate the mind of many fanfic writers.

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* FanficFuel: The Mother's unknown background and the established setting of her seducing young heroes in order to mate with them and give birth to monsters is more than enough to stimulate the mind of many fanfic writers.



* NightmareFuel: As Grendel's Mother lays Grendel's body to rest, she is humming and quietly sobbing. Eventually her wailing degenerates into an utterly blood-curdling shriek that echoes throughout the mountains. Grendel's Mother is the original MamaBear in Anglo-Saxon folklore, and a viewer knows then and there that she is ''pissed beyond all reason and is coming for revenge''.

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* NightmareFuel: NightmareFuel:
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As Grendel's Mother lays Grendel's body to rest, she is humming and quietly sobbing. Eventually her wailing degenerates into an utterly blood-curdling shriek that echoes throughout the mountains. Grendel's Mother is the original MamaBear in Anglo-Saxon folklore, and a viewer knows then and there that she is ''pissed beyond all reason and is coming for revenge''.revenge''.
** The loss of Grendel's arm. Instead of just ripping it off, Beowulf pulls it taut with a chain and ''crushes'' it off by slamming Herot's door on it repeatedly while Grendel desperately tries to tell the Geats that he's not a demon and cries in fear as Beowulf screams at him.



* TearJerker: The loss of Grendel's arm. Instead of just ripping it off, Beowulf pulls it taut with a chain and ''crushes'' it off by slamming Herot's door on it repeatedly while Grendel desperately tries to tell the Geats that he's not a demon and cries in fear as Beowulf screams at him.

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* TearJerker: The loss StrawmanHasAPoint: Beowulf's decision to [[spoiler:accept treat of Grendel's arm. Instead of mother]] might come just ripping it off, Beowulf pulls it taut with a chain and ''crushes'' it off by slamming Herot's door on it repeatedly while Grendel desperately tries to tell the Geats from power hunger, but considering that he's not she is apparently a demon magical and cries in fear as Beowulf screams indestructible creature, and that at him.least he got some decades of peace for his kingdom by doing it, one has to wonder if he had another option besides still try to fight her, get killed for the efforts and spin the wheel again. (see Villain Sue below)



* VillainSue: As seen in her apparitions, there does not seem to be any way to harm Grendel's mother. While in the poem she is basically another hulking monster and Beowulf only has to overpower her to get the kill, the movie version's supernatural abilities give us no reason to believe she is anything but invincible.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Director Robert Zemeckis had originally intended to release an NC-17 version for IMAX theatres and a PG-13 version for regular theatres but was forced by Paramount to deliver an R rating. The final version was rated PG-13, which surprised many people on the production (including Angelina Jolie, who did not see the film as family-friendly and refused to let her children see it).

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* VillainSue: As seen in her apparitions, there does not seem to be any way to harm Grendel's mother. While in the poem she is basically another hulking monster and Beowulf only has to overpower her to get the kill, the movie version's supernatural abilities give us no reason to believe she is anything but invincible.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: Director Robert Zemeckis had originally intended to release an NC-17 version for IMAX theatres and a PG-13 version for regular theatres but was forced by Paramount to deliver an R rating. The final version was rated PG-13, which surprised many people on the production (including Angelina Jolie, who did not see the film as family-friendly and refused to let her children see it).
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