History YMMV / Ben10Omniverse

18th Jan '17 11:04:14 AM worldofdrakan
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** Many have also pointed out that Psyphon is practically [[{{Yandere}} yandere]] for Vilgax. Some will even go so far as to say that he's [[AmbiguouslyGay ambiguously gay]] for Vilgax. This especially shows in ''Bengeance is Mine'' when Psyphon thinks that Bill Gacks is his master in disguise. He is ''not'' afraid to [[AintTooProudToBeg grovel at Vilgax's feet]] and will do literally anything that is asked of him. ''Anything'' for the master!

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** Many have also pointed out that Psyphon is practically [[{{Yandere}} yandere]] for Vilgax. Some will even go so far as to say that he's [[AmbiguouslyGay ambiguously gay]] for Vilgax.Vilgax because of how often he ''gushes'' about him. This especially shows in ''Bengeance is Mine'' when Psyphon thinks that Bill Gacks is his master in disguise. He is ''not'' afraid to [[AintTooProudToBeg grovel at Vilgax's feet]] and will do literally anything that is asked of him. ''Anything'' for the master!
18th Jan '17 11:03:13 AM worldofdrakan
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** Many have also pointed out that Psyphon is practically [[{{Yandere}} yandere]] for Vilgax. Some will even go so far as to say that he's [[AmbiguouslyGay ambiguously gay]] for Vilgax. This especially shows in ''Bengeance is Mine'' when Psyphon thinks that Bill Gacks is his master in disguise. He is not afraid to [[AintTooProudToBeg grovel at Vilgax's feet]] and will do any thing that is asked of him. ''Anything'' for the master!

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** Many have also pointed out that Psyphon is practically [[{{Yandere}} yandere]] for Vilgax. Some will even go so far as to say that he's [[AmbiguouslyGay ambiguously gay]] for Vilgax. This especially shows in ''Bengeance is Mine'' when Psyphon thinks that Bill Gacks is his master in disguise. He is not ''not'' afraid to [[AintTooProudToBeg grovel at Vilgax's feet]] and will do any thing literally anything that is asked of him. ''Anything'' for the master!
18th Jan '17 11:01:51 AM worldofdrakan
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** Many have also pointed out that Psyphon is practically [[{{Yandere}} yandere]] for Vilgax. Some will even go so far as to say that he's [[AmbiguouslyGay ambiguously gay]] for Vilgax. This especially shows in ''Bengeance is Mine'' when Psyphon thinks that Bill Gacks is his master in disguise. He is not afraid to [[AintTooProudToBeg grovel at Vilgax's feet]] and will do any thing that is asked of him. ''Anything'' for the master!
2nd Jan '17 2:35:03 AM Theokal3
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* ObviousJudas: In a rare HeelFaceTurn example, [[spoiler:Dr. Viktor makes it no secret that he will eventually be the Judas in the midst of Zs'Skayr's henchmen. In ''The Vampire Strikes Back'', Zs'Skayr resurrects Lord Transyl, a member of a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent long-extinct species]] that once enslaved Viktor's people with the intention of ruling the universe together. Viktor voices '''obvious''' disapproval for the scheme, even going so far as to call it "madness," and yet at the very end where Zs'Skayr orders Viktor to hold onto Ben so that Transyl can take control over him, Zs'Skayr is ''still'' [[WhatAnIdiot legitimately shocked]] when Viktor drops Ben at the last second, proclaiming that the Vladats must never rule again.]]

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** [[spoiler:Argit]] in ''Frogs of War part 2''. The character's entire ''hat'' is to betray and double-cross everyone else to save his own skin, so really, nobody was surprised when he betrayed the heroes to Attea.
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In a rare HeelFaceTurn example, [[spoiler:Dr. Viktor makes it no secret that he will eventually be the Judas in the midst of Zs'Skayr's henchmen. In ''The Vampire Strikes Back'', Zs'Skayr resurrects Lord Transyl, a member of a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent long-extinct species]] that once enslaved Viktor's people with the intention of ruling the universe together. Viktor voices '''obvious''' disapproval for the scheme, even going so far as to call it "madness," and yet at the very end where Zs'Skayr orders Viktor to hold onto Ben so that Transyl can take control over him, Zs'Skayr is ''still'' [[WhatAnIdiot legitimately shocked]] when Viktor drops Ben at the last second, proclaiming that the Vladats must never rule again.]]
1st Jan '17 10:17:10 PM worldofdrakan
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* ObviousJudas: In a rare HeelFaceTurn example, [[spoiler:Dr. Viktor makes it no secret that he will eventually be the Judas in the midst of Zs'Skayr's henchmen. In ''The Vampire Strikes Back'', Zs'Skayr resurrects Lord Transyl, a member of a [[OurVampiresAreDifferent long-extinct species]] that once enslaved Viktor's people with the intention of ruling the universe together. Viktor voices '''obvious''' disapproval for the scheme, even going so far as to call it "madness," and yet at the very end where Zs'Skayr orders Viktor to hold onto Ben so that Transyl can take control over him, Zs'Skayr is ''still'' [[WhatAnIdiot legitimately shocked]] when Viktor drops Ben at the last second, proclaiming that the Vladats must never rule again.]]
28th Oct '16 9:21:02 AM dlchen145
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** "Universe VS Tennyson" wastes a Celestialsapien smackdown, something that could have been Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann levels of {{Badass}}, in favor of focusing on a comedic trial against Ben.

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** "Universe VS Tennyson" wastes a Celestialsapien smackdown, something that could have been Anime/TengenToppaGurrenLagann levels of {{Badass}}, badass, in favor of focusing on a comedic trial against Ben.
22nd Sep '16 8:28:48 PM nombretomado
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** In UltimateAlien, 16-year-old Ben countered his 10-year-old self's claim that Swampfire was "just a copy of Wildvine" by throwing seeds to spawn a mass of entangling vines, quipping "can Wildvine do ''this''?" In "Rad Monster Party", Wildvine does exactly that.

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** In UltimateAlien, ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'', 16-year-old Ben countered his 10-year-old self's claim that Swampfire was "just a copy of Wildvine" by throwing seeds to spawn a mass of entangling vines, quipping "can Wildvine do ''this''?" In "Rad Monster Party", Wildvine does exactly that.



** The Vreedle Brothers; after the CharacterDevelopment they got in UltimateAlien and their HeelFaceTurn, the writers decided that they were better as villains and just had them blow up the Plumber Academy before being back to being Con Men. Especially annoying in that this was totally unnecessary: if they wanted villainous Vreedle Brothers, they could have just used a separate pair of clones that were still criminals, seeing how ''Con of Rath'' etablished there were an army of them.

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** The Vreedle Brothers; after the CharacterDevelopment they got in UltimateAlien ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'' and their HeelFaceTurn, the writers decided that they were better as villains and just had them blow up the Plumber Academy before being back to being Con Men. Especially annoying in that this was totally unnecessary: if they wanted villainous Vreedle Brothers, they could have just used a separate pair of clones that were still criminals, seeing how ''Con of Rath'' etablished there were an army of them.
21st Sep '16 6:47:22 PM nombretomado
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** AlienForce got some flak for allowing Vulkanus to purchase and attempt to terraform the Earth (which would kill everything on it), with the indication that his actions were entirely within galactic law. In "Collect This", when Collectimus buys Earth from Simian, Rook explains that no, this is not legal.

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** AlienForce ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]'' got some flak for allowing Vulkanus to purchase and attempt to terraform the Earth (which would kill everything on it), with the indication that his actions were entirely within galactic law. In "Collect This", when Collectimus buys Earth from Simian, Rook explains that no, this is not legal.
27th Aug '16 6:25:46 AM Theokal3
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*** It has since been announced that [[AuthorsSavingThrow there will be a graphic novel]] [[AllThereInTheManual that will explain]] what happened between her last appearance in ''UA'' and her cameo in ''Omniverse''.

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*** It has since been announced that [[AuthorsSavingThrow there will be a A graphic novel]] [[AllThereInTheManual that will explain]] novel was eventually published]] with her as a major character... only for said graphic novel to contradict everything established about her and explain absolutely nothing about what happened to her between her last appearance in ''UA'' and her cameo in ''Omniverse''.the two shows.
13th Aug '16 10:21:08 PM ShadowDJ
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*** Not helping is that it leaves a lot to chance. [[spoiler: one; how did Servantis get to Kevin's mom and change her memories and also her new husband's to gie the idea that she told the stories about him? Two; Dwayne McDuffie himself revealed through WordOfGod that Manny's mom was a Tetramand, so that seems to be a bit of a disrespectful thing to him to remove the work he has done. Four; it makes the death of Ragnarok seem kinda unneeded as it would mean hat he would be in on some plan that Servantis set up. How would he even get that much foresight involved? and five; The plan seems too overly complicated and unnessicary as by this point im time, Ben has saved the universe and is a veteran in a war against the Highbreed. He has no proof of Ben being a threat at all.]] In all, the plot of thi arc is too chatoic to get through all the contradictions.

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*** Not helping is that it leaves a lot to chance. [[spoiler: one; how did Servantis get to Kevin's mom and change her memories and also her new husband's to gie give the idea that she told the stories about him? Plus he would also need to brain wash all the plumbers, not just Max, to keep this ruse around and make evidence of his existence, which would take up a lot of time for a plan that would likely be unable to be used as it would be too much up to chance. Two; Dwayne McDuffie himself revealed through WordOfGod that Manny's mom was a Tetramand, so that seems to be a bit of a disrespectful thing to him to remove the work he has done. Three: what about all the other plumber kids that were mentioned or introduced like Michael Morningstar? Was he not involved with the Rooters? And if so, what does he have to do with the Plumbers? Four; it makes the death of Ragnarok seem kinda unneeded as it would mean hat he would be in on some plan that Servantis set up. How would he even get that much foresight involved? and five; The plan seems too overly complicated and unnessicary unnecessary as by this point im in time, Ben has saved the universe and is a veteran in a war against the Highbreed. He has no proof of Ben being a threat at all.]] In all, the plot of thi this arc is too chatoic to get through all the contradictions.
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