History YMMV / Ben10Omniverse

16th Sep '17 4:52:01 PM Manny20444
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16th Sep '17 2:31:40 PM Manny20444
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* StrangledByTheRedString: Kai and Ben, oh so much. They only knew each for a B-plot of one original series episode where Ben has a one-sided crush on Kai and she only showed a casual, off-handed interest in taming Ben's Blitzwolfer form at the end of the episode which broke Ben's heart. While it is implied in a [[LotusEaterMachine dream of a perfect day for Ben]] that he still harbors feelings for Kai but it was never expanded on. When the two meet again in ''An American Benwolf in London'', they have just spent six years without seeing each other and ''immediately'' start a SlapSlapKiss dynamic where the only attempt to make their relationship more important than the rest of Ben's harem is [[EveryoneCanSeeIt everyone acting like their fighting is proof that they love each other]] with some ''very'' minor ShipTease. Even when we actually see them married in the future they are still constantly arguing (though a bit less violently). The trope actually gets invoked with Ben/Kai in "Fight at the Museum", where they are declared true loves [[BecauseDestinySaysSo because Spanner says so.]] Oh, and Esther actually gives up on Ben and makes way to for Kai because she believes YouCantFightFate.

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* StrangledByTheRedString: Kai Ben and Ben, Kai, oh so much. They only knew each for a B-plot of one the original series episode "Benwolf" where Ben has a one-sided crush on Kai and she only showed a casual, off-handed interest in taming Ben's Blitzwolfer form at the end of the episode which broke Ben's heart. While it is implied in a [[LotusEaterMachine dream of a perfect day for Ben]] that he still harbors feelings for Kai but it was never expanded on. When the two meet again in ''An American Benwolf in London'', they have just spent six years without seeing each other and ''immediately'' start a SlapSlapKiss dynamic where the only attempt to make their relationship more important than the rest of Ben's harem is [[EveryoneCanSeeIt everyone acting like their fighting is proof that they love each other]] with some ''very'' minor ShipTease. Even when we actually see them married in the future they are still constantly arguing (though a bit less violently). The trope actually gets invoked with Ben/Kai in "Fight at the Museum", where they are declared true loves [[BecauseDestinySaysSo because Spanner says so.]] Oh, and Esther actually gives up on Ben and makes way to for Kai because she believes YouCantFightFate.
15th Sep '17 6:10:51 AM Theokal3
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** A frequent justification used by the writers, as well as Derrick J. Wyatt, to explain the infamous break-up between Ben and Julie, as well as the confirmation she wouldn't be his wife in the future, was to say that in real life, "you don't end up marrying girls you dated as a teenager". Fast-forward to the Time War story arc, Ben's final LoveInterest turns out to be ''Kai Green'', a character he had a crush on ''as a ten years old'' and didn't see for five years after that.
6th Sep '17 1:49:53 PM Manny20444
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** Eon's design is portrayed as closer to his movie self. Considering many thought the ''Ultimate Alien'' version actually was cooler than his movie self, whether it's a good thing or not is up to debate. With that being said, he's much more like a [[CompositeCharacter mixture]] of the various versions, taking the basic backstory of the ''Ultimate Alien'' incarnation ([[spoiler:[[FallenHero he's Ben]] according to WordOfGod, as already hinted by him and Ben 10,000 sharing [[TheOtherDarrin their latest VA]]]]) as well as threat level, and the movie incarnation's appearance. Interestingly, there are also aspects of his movie self that were present in UA but left out here, most notably his ''entire head.'' It's like UA used half of Movie Eon's design, and Omniverse uses the half that UA ''didn't.''

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** Eon's design is portrayed as closer to his movie self. Considering many thought the ''Ultimate Alien'' version actually was cooler than his movie self, whether it's a good thing or not is up to debate. With that being said, he's much more like a [[CompositeCharacter mixture]] of the various versions, taking the basic backstory of the ''Ultimate Alien'' incarnation ([[spoiler:[[FallenHero he's Ben]] a version of Ben from an alternate timeline]] according to WordOfGod, as already hinted by him and Ben 10,000 sharing [[TheOtherDarrin their latest VA]]]]) as well as threat level, and the movie incarnation's appearance. Interestingly, there are also aspects of his movie self that were present in UA but left out here, most notably his ''entire head.'' It's like UA used half of Movie Eon's design, and Omniverse uses the half that UA ''didn't.''



** Blukic and Driba are adored by the writing staff; they got two episodes entirely dedicated to them (and the first one, ''Blukic and Driba go to Mr Smoothies'', is one of the writers' favourite episode), a lot of screentime (including in several season finales) and Derrick Wyatt stated he wouldn't mind them having their own spin-off show. Most fans rather see them as an extremely annoying and obnoxious PluckyComicRelief duo [[FantasticRacism with racist tendencies toward Cerebrocrustaceans]], prone to [[TheLoad cause troubles to everybody by their stupidity]] and irresponsability and generally the source of rather bad jokes.

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** Blukic and Driba are adored by the writing staff; they got two episodes entirely dedicated to them (and the first one, ''Blukic and Driba go to Mr Smoothies'', is one of the writers' favourite episode), a lot of screentime (including in several season finales) and Derrick Wyatt stated he wouldn't mind them having their own spin-off show. Most Many fans rather see them as an extremely annoying and obnoxious PluckyComicRelief duo [[FantasticRacism with racist tendencies toward Cerebrocrustaceans]], prone to [[TheLoad cause troubles to everybody by their stupidity]] and irresponsability irresponsibility and generally the source of rather bad jokes.
28th Aug '17 7:43:06 PM Theokal3
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* TheScrappy: Kai Green more than ever. Just for starter, she managed to anger almost ''every'' Ben-related shippers aside from her own; Benlie fans hate her for being the cause of the incredibly forced and convoluted break-up between Ben and Julie, which was clearly done to make way for her, and shippers who pair Ben with other girls (Esther, Looma, Attea...) are mad because she single-handledly turned all these into {{Romantic False Lead}}s. Then, you have the fact her romance with Ben was spectacularly StrangledByTheRedString; the show tries to play it as BelligerentSexualTension, but since they have almost no moment to show they do like each other, and the few ones they have involve Kai caring more about Ben's ''alien forms'' than himself, it just comes out as them hating each other. And then there is just the fact Kai individually appears as a major JerkAss who constantly insults Ben even when he comes to help her, yet is ''somehow'' [[CharacterShilling declared more worthy of Excalibur than Ben is]].

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* TheScrappy: ** Kai Green more than ever. Just for starter, she managed to anger almost ''every'' Ben-related shippers aside from her own; Benlie fans hate her for being the cause of the incredibly forced and convoluted break-up between Ben and Julie, which was clearly done to make way for her, and shippers who pair Ben with other girls (Esther, Looma, Attea...) are mad because she single-handledly turned all these into {{Romantic False Lead}}s. Then, you have the fact her romance with Ben was spectacularly StrangledByTheRedString; the show tries to play it as BelligerentSexualTension, but since they have almost no moment to show they do like each other, and the few ones they have involve Kai caring more about Ben's ''alien forms'' than himself, it just comes out as them hating each other. And then there is just the fact Kai individually appears as a major JerkAss who constantly insults Ben even when he comes to help her, yet is ''somehow'' [[CharacterShilling declared more worthy of Excalibur than Ben is]].
28th Aug '17 7:42:24 PM Theokal3
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* TheScrappy: Kai Green more than ever.

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* TheScrappy: Kai Green more than ever. Just for starter, she managed to anger almost ''every'' Ben-related shippers aside from her own; Benlie fans hate her for being the cause of the incredibly forced and convoluted break-up between Ben and Julie, which was clearly done to make way for her, and shippers who pair Ben with other girls (Esther, Looma, Attea...) are mad because she single-handledly turned all these into {{Romantic False Lead}}s. Then, you have the fact her romance with Ben was spectacularly StrangledByTheRedString; the show tries to play it as BelligerentSexualTension, but since they have almost no moment to show they do like each other, and the few ones they have involve Kai caring more about Ben's ''alien forms'' than himself, it just comes out as them hating each other. And then there is just the fact Kai individually appears as a major JerkAss who constantly insults Ben even when he comes to help her, yet is ''somehow'' [[CharacterShilling declared more worthy of Excalibur than Ben is]].
28th Aug '17 8:38:30 AM HarmoniousPussy
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* TheScrappy: Kai Green more than ever.
8th Aug '17 8:46:54 AM Piterpicher
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* LoveItOrHateIt: Fans either love ''Omniverse'' for taking the show back to its roots, making many homages to the original show, and giving [[EnsembleDarkhorse Rook]], or hate it for its overly simplified art style, juvenile tone, and decayed Ben.
26th Jul '17 11:49:13 PM jormis29
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** In one of the ''Alien Force'' video games, Creator/JohnDimaggio played Vilgax, filling in for James Remar, who himself was filling in for Creator/SteveBlum. In this series, Steve Blum returns and functions as TheOtherDarrin for [[spoiler:Adwaita]], a role John Dimaggio played before.

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** In one of the ''Alien Force'' video games, Creator/JohnDimaggio played Vilgax, filling in for James Remar, Creator/JamesRemar, who himself was filling in for Creator/SteveBlum. In this series, Steve Blum returns and functions as TheOtherDarrin for [[spoiler:Adwaita]], a role John Dimaggio played before.
26th Jul '17 12:11:09 PM Theokal3
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* TheUntwist: [[spoiler:Argit]]'s betrayal in ''Frogs of War'' was something so obvious and in-character for him that you would be forgiven to believe the narrators will have him PetTheDog and stick to his friends for once, showing EveryoneHasStandards. He wastes very little time in proving that no, he still is the as untrustworthy as ever.

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* TheUntwist: [[spoiler:Argit]]'s betrayal in ''Frogs of War'' was something so obvious and in-character for him that you would be forgiven to believe the narrators will would have him PetTheDog and stick to his friends for once, showing EveryoneHasStandards. He wastes very little time in proving that no, he still is the as untrustworthy as ever.
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