History YMMV / Ben10Omniverse

13th Jun '17 7:16:37 PM Theokal3
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** The ''entire'' Rooter Story arc relies on the Rooters following BondVillainStupidity to an absurd level, since their end goal is to [[spoiler:kill Ben and destroy the Omnitrix because [[BewareTheSuperman they think the two of them are too dangerous]]]]. There are ''tons'' of occasions they could have easily reached their goal easily (including [[spoiler:taking the Omnitrix from him during the five years where he stopped wearing it or [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim killing him while he was their prisonner]] in their ''introduction episode'']]), many of them which could have been done without [[spoiler:[[MurderIsTheBestSolution killing him]], since Ben is harmless without the Omnitrix]]. Yet, Proctor Servantis still insists to follows his overly complicated plot, which by the way [[spoiler:was designed to kill Ben ''[[VillainForgotToLevelGrind six years ago]]'', and didn't even work back then, so it seems really unlikely it will work on the present-day, much stronger Ben]].
** At the end of the Time War story arc, it's revealed Maltruant's plan involved stealing [[spoiler:the Anihilarg, which the Plumbers are still keeping, from the future]]. In other words, his whole plan relied on [[spoiler:the Plumbers being too stupid to just destroy the Universe-destroying DoomsdayDevice they had literally no reason to keep.]]

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** The ''entire'' Rooter Story arc relies on the Rooters following BondVillainStupidity to an absurd level, since their end goal is to [[spoiler:kill Ben and destroy the Omnitrix because [[BewareTheSuperman they think the two of them are too dangerous]]]]. There are ''tons'' of occasions they could have easily reached their goal easily (including [[spoiler:taking the Omnitrix from him during the five years where he stopped wearing it or [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim killing him while he was unconcious and their prisonner]] in their ''introduction episode'']]), many of them which could have been done without [[spoiler:[[MurderIsTheBestSolution killing him]], resorting to murder]], since Ben is harmless without the Omnitrix]]. Yet, Proctor Servantis still insists to follows his overly complicated plot, which by the way [[spoiler:was designed to kill Ben ''[[VillainForgotToLevelGrind six years ago]]'', and didn't even work back then, so it seems really unlikely it will work on the present-day, much stronger Ben]].
** At the end of the Time War story arc, it's revealed Maltruant's plan involved stealing [[spoiler:the Anihilarg, which the Plumbers are still keeping, from the future]]. In other words, his whole plan relied on [[spoiler:the Plumbers being too stupid to just destroy the Universe-destroying Universe-obliterating DoomsdayDevice they had literally no reason to keep.]]
3rd Jun '17 8:01:36 AM Theokal3
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** Ben himself to many fans. Having his obnoxious IdiotHero traits flanderized even ''more'' so than in season 3 of ''Alien Force'' has made him very annoying to many. It's gotten to the point that many fans prefer either Rook or Ben's alternate counterparts such as [[BadassNormal No-Watch Ben]] and [[JerkassWoobie Ben 23]] along with his future self [[FutureBadass Ben 10,000]]. Some fans have even started to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for some of the villains]] rather than Ben himself.

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** Ben himself to many fans. Having his obnoxious IdiotHero traits flanderized even ''more'' so than in season 3 of ''Alien Force'' has made him very annoying to many. It's gotten to the point that many fans prefer either Rook or Ben's alternate and future counterparts such as [[BadassNormal No-Watch Ben]] and Ben]], [[JerkassWoobie Ben 23]] along with his future self and [[FutureBadass Ben 10,000]]. Some fans have even started to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for some of the villains]] rather than Ben himself.
19th May '17 10:55:41 PM Manny20444
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** Ben himself to many fans. Having his obnoxious IdiotHero traits flanderized even ''more'' so than in season 3 of ''Alien Force'' has made him very annoying to many. It's gotten to the point that many fans prefer either Rook or Ben's alternate counterparts such as [[BadassNormal No-Watch Ben]] and [[JerkassWoobie Ben 23]] as well as his future self [[FutureBadass Ben 10,000]]. Some fans have even started to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for some of the villains]] rather than Ben himself.

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** Ben himself to many fans. Having his obnoxious IdiotHero traits flanderized even ''more'' so than in season 3 of ''Alien Force'' has made him very annoying to many. It's gotten to the point that many fans prefer either Rook or Ben's alternate counterparts such as [[BadassNormal No-Watch Ben]] and [[JerkassWoobie Ben 23]] as well as along with his future self [[FutureBadass Ben 10,000]]. Some fans have even started to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for some of the villains]] rather than Ben himself.
19th May '17 10:44:50 PM Manny20444
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** Ben himself to many fans. Having his obnoxious IdiotHero traits flanderized even ''more'' so than in season 3 of ''Alien Force'' has made him very annoying to many. It's gotten to the point that many fans prefer either Rook or Ben's alternate counterparts such as [[BadassNormal No-Watch Ben]], [[JerkassWoobie Ben 23]], or [[FutureBadass Ben 10,000]]. Some fans have even started to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for some of the villains]] rather than Ben himself.

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** Ben himself to many fans. Having his obnoxious IdiotHero traits flanderized even ''more'' so than in season 3 of ''Alien Force'' has made him very annoying to many. It's gotten to the point that many fans prefer either Rook or Ben's alternate counterparts such as [[BadassNormal No-Watch Ben]], Ben]] and [[JerkassWoobie Ben 23]], or 23]] as well as his future self [[FutureBadass Ben 10,000]]. Some fans have even started to [[RootingForTheEmpire root for some of the villains]] rather than Ben himself.
17th May '17 7:00:03 PM Theokal3
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* WhatAnIdiot:

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* WhatAnIdiot: TheUntwist: [[spoiler:Argit]]'s betrayal in ''Frogs of War'' was something so obvious and in-character for him that you would be forgiven to believe the narrators will have him PetTheDog and stick to his friends for once, showing EveryoneHasStandards. He wastes very little time in proving that no, he still is the as untrustworthy as ever.
* WhatAnIdiot:
13th May '17 6:49:20 AM Theokal3
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** Much like in ''Ultimate Alien'', [[spoiler:Eon being an alternate Ben]] is completely glossed over with no attempt to develop [[spoiler:how Ben became Eon in the first place]].

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** Much like in ''Ultimate Alien'', [[spoiler:Eon being Eon [[spoiler:being an alternate Ben]] is completely glossed over with no attempt to develop [[spoiler:how Ben became Eon him in the first place]].place]]. Especially infuriating in that many feel this alone would have made him a much more compelling and interesting BigBad for the Time War story arc than Maltruant was.
13th May '17 5:29:10 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: The ArcVillain of the 8th season, Maltruant, is a rogue [[TimeMaster Chronosapien]] bent on ruling all of time and existence. He masterminded the original Time War in his first bid for universal control, but was defeated and his body separated across time by Professor Paradox. Seeking to restart the Time War and win, He hired Dr. Psychobos to help repair himself. After his CoDragons Subdora and Exo-Skull complete repairing his body, Maltruant turned on Dr. Psychobos, easily defeated Ben Prime and Ben 23, and left both for dead in Mad Ben's dimension with his minions to restart the Time War. Once he travels to the time period of Ben 10,000 to steal the [[DoomsdayDevice Anihilaarg]] and the [[AmplifierArtifact Dwarf Star]] so he can create a more deadly weapon, Maltruant traveled back to the very beginning of the universe and snuck aboard the [[{{Precursors}} Contemelia's]] ship, where he switched their Anihilaarg with his own in order to recreate the universe in his image. Extremely power hungry and so egomanical that when he met the Contemelia (who always appear in the form of who or what one holds dearest in their hearts) [[{{Narcissist}} he saw three alternate versions of himself]], Maltruant cements himself as one of Ben's most monstrous enemies.

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* CompleteMonster: The CompleteMonster:
**Vilgax, though at first seeming to have [[VillainDecay decayed in his evil]], pulls out perhaps the most wicked scheme in the entire franchise, using a Chronosapien Time Bomb to [[OmnicidalManiac wipe out all dimensions and timelines]], his own included, to leave only a single, more submissive universe for him to conquer and rule. Vilgax was a purely evil madman who would kill first billions, then insurmountable trillions, just to satisfy his raging desire to be the most powerful being in the universe, and stands out as the most iconic villain in ''Ben 10'' for this very reason.
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ArcVillain of the 8th season, Maltruant, is a rogue [[TimeMaster Chronosapien]] bent on ruling all of time and existence. He masterminded the original Time War in his first bid for universal control, but was defeated and his body separated across time by Professor Paradox. Seeking to restart the Time War and win, He hired Dr. Psychobos to help repair himself. After his CoDragons Subdora and Exo-Skull complete repairing his body, Maltruant turned on Dr. Psychobos, easily defeated Ben Prime and Ben 23, and left both for dead in Mad Ben's dimension with his minions to restart the Time War. Once he travels to the time period of Ben 10,000 to steal the [[DoomsdayDevice Anihilaarg]] and the [[AmplifierArtifact Dwarf Star]] so he can create a more deadly weapon, Maltruant traveled back to the very beginning of the universe and snuck aboard the [[{{Precursors}} Contemelia's]] ship, where he switched their Anihilaarg with his own in order to recreate the universe in his image. Extremely power hungry and so egomanical that when he met the Contemelia (who always appear in the form of who or what one holds dearest in their hearts) [[{{Narcissist}} he saw three alternate versions of himself]], Maltruant cements himself as one of Ben's most monstrous enemies.
11th May '17 7:09:28 AM Theokal3
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*** And then Phil is brought back as a member of the Rooters... only to serve little purpose beside serving as an additional minion to Proctor Servantis. His interactions with Max don't even go beyond the first episode of the story arc.

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*** And then Phil is brought back as a member of the Rooters... only to serve little purpose beside serving as an additional minion to Proctor Servantis. His interactions with Max don't even go beyond the first episode of the story arc.arc, and [[spoiler:he is defeated offscreen in a comical fashion by Argit without even getting a new confrontation with his old friend]]. Oh, and the reason the Rooters recruited him to begin with? Never adressed.
6th May '17 1:05:38 AM hellwolf99
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* NoYay: Attea and [[spoiler:Ben[=/=]Bullfrag]]. Even excluding the {{Squick}} involved by the fact Attea is an Anthropomorphic frog while [[spoiler:Ben is human]], there is the fact that Incurseans grow faster than humans... meaning [[spoiler:Attea is technically ''a lot'' younger than Ben, which can be seen by Bullfrag looking like an adult rather than a teen. Though this loses a bit of the creepiness factor when one realizes that most actual frogs and toads have a lifespan of about 12 years and Incurseans likely age along that age spectrum even if they don't share such a short lifespan.]]

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* NoYay: Attea and [[spoiler:Ben[=/=]Bullfrag]]. Even excluding the {{Squick}} involved by the fact Attea is an Anthropomorphic frog while [[spoiler:Ben is human]], there is the fact that Incurseans grow faster than humans... meaning [[spoiler:Attea is technically ''a lot'' younger than Ben, which can be seen by Bullfrag looking like an adult rather than a teen. Though this loses a bit of the creepiness factor when one realizes that most actual frogs and toads have a lifespan of about 12 years and Incurseans likely age along that age spectrum even if they don't share such a short lifespan. Still counts due to her being a bit of an AxCrazy RoyalBrat.]]
6th May '17 1:05:03 AM hellwolf99
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* NoYay: Attea and [[spoiler:Ben[=/=]Bullfrag]]. Even excluding the {{Squick}} involved by the fact Attea is an Anthropomorphic frog while [[spoiler:Ben is human]], there is the fact that Incurseans grow faster than humans... meaning [[spoiler:Attea is technically ''a lot'' younger than Ben, which can be seen by Bullfrag looking like an adult rather than a teen.]]

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* NoYay: Attea and [[spoiler:Ben[=/=]Bullfrag]]. Even excluding the {{Squick}} involved by the fact Attea is an Anthropomorphic frog while [[spoiler:Ben is human]], there is the fact that Incurseans grow faster than humans... meaning [[spoiler:Attea is technically ''a lot'' younger than Ben, which can be seen by Bullfrag looking like an adult rather than a teen. Though this loses a bit of the creepiness factor when one realizes that most actual frogs and toads have a lifespan of about 12 years and Incurseans likely age along that age spectrum even if they don't share such a short lifespan.]]
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