History YMMV / Ben10

16th Jun '18 10:21:55 AM ACW
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** There's also [[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Aggregor]] & [[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Maltruant]]. See those pages for details.

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** There's also [[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien [[YMMV/Ben10UltimateAlien Aggregor]] & [[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse [[YMMV/Ben10Omniverse Maltruant]]. See those pages for details.
30th May '18 1:11:53 PM ChaoticNovelist
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** [[BadassGrandpa Grandpa Max]], as detailed in the JustHereForGodzilla entry, even moreso as of the newer series' when he's not a main character anymore.

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** [[BadassGrandpa [[OldMaster Grandpa Max]], as detailed in the JustHereForGodzilla entry, even moreso as of the newer series' when he's not a main character anymore.



* JustHereForGodzilla: While majority of the people just watched the show to see Ben transform into an alien form, there were some who just stuck around to see [[BadassGrandpa Grandpa Max]] be ''completely awesome''.

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* JustHereForGodzilla: While majority of the people just watched the show to see Ben transform into an alien form, there were some who just stuck around to see [[BadassGrandpa [[OldMaster Grandpa Max]] be ''completely awesome''.
30th May '18 12:24:59 PM Isaac_Heller
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* MyRealDaddy: Since the Original Series was the only series produced by Man of Action, there are a sizeable amount of fans who consider it alone canon and regard the various sequels as FanonDiscontinuity.
** There are also many ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]''[=/=]''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'' fans who credit Creator/DwayneMcDuffie and Glen Murakami for making the characters mature, and as a result have a similarly hostile reaction toward ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Omniverse]]'' for being DenserAndWackier and making several AF[=/=]UA episodes non-canon [[PanderingToTheBase in an attempt to get closer to the Original Series]].

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* MyRealDaddy: Since the Original Series was the only series produced by Man of Action, there are a sizeable amount of fans who consider it alone canon and regard the various sequels as FanonDiscontinuity.
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There are also many ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]''[=/=]''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'' fans who credit Creator/DwayneMcDuffie and Glen Murakami for making the characters mature, and as a result have a similarly hostile reaction toward ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Omniverse]]'' for being DenserAndWackier and making several AF[=/=]UA episodes non-canon [[PanderingToTheBase in an attempt to get closer to the Original Series]].
20th Apr '18 7:20:17 PM TheTroper1
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Many fans find it jarring how chummy Ben and Gwen are in the reboot. Though [[BrokenBase there are some people that liked how friendlier they were in the previous series who see this as one of the most positive aspects of the reboot.]]

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Many fans find it jarring how chummy Ben and Gwen are in the reboot. Though [[BrokenBase there are some people that liked how friendlier they were in the previous series who see this as one of the most few positive aspects of the reboot.]]
20th Apr '18 2:23:15 PM Isaac_Heller
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Kevin 11 and Charmcaster, in no small part due to their portrayals in later shows. While they ''do'' have some AntiVillain traits in this series and WordOfGod says they were always intended to develop more AntiHero traits as well, they are still mostly [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk straight-up villains who like doing evil and reject any offers of redemption]], and with Kevin being straight-up AxCrazy to a [[TheSociopath sociopathic degree.]]

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Kevin 11 and Charmcaster, in no small part due to their portrayals in later shows. While they ''do'' have some AntiVillain traits in this series and WordOfGod says they were always intended to develop more AntiHero traits as well, they are still mostly [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk straight-up villains who like doing evil evil]] and [[RedemptionRejection reject any offers of redemption]], and with Kevin being straight-up AxCrazy to a [[TheSociopath sociopathic degree.]]
19th Apr '18 7:31:02 PM Isaac_Heller
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* {{Sequelitis}}: ''{{WesternAnimation/Ben 10 Omniverse}}'' is generally seen as the worst entry of the lot, although ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]'' and ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'' have [[ContestedSequel their fair share of detractors]] too.

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* {{Sequelitis}}: ''{{WesternAnimation/Ben 10 Omniverse}}'' is generally seen as the worst entry of the lot, franchise prior to its ContinuityReboot, although ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]'' and ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'' have [[ContestedSequel their fair share of detractors]] too.



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Many fans find it jarring how chummy Ben and Gwen are in the reboot. Though there are some people that liked how friendlier they were in the previous series see this as one of the few positives of the reboot.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Many fans find it jarring how chummy Ben and Gwen are in the reboot. Though [[BrokenBase there are some people that liked how friendlier they were in the previous series who see this as one of the few positives most positive aspects of the reboot. reboot.]]
19th Apr '18 7:16:22 PM Isaac_Heller
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* MyRealDaddy: Since the Original Series was the only series produced by Man of Action, there are a sizeable amount of fans who consider it alone canon and regard the various sequels as FanonDiscontinuity though there are also many ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]''[=/=]''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'' fans who credit Creator/DwayneMcDuffie and Glen Murakami for making the characters mature, and as a result have a similarly hostile reaction toward ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Omniverse]]'' for being DenserAndWackier and making several AF[=/=]UA episodes non-canon [[PanderingToTheFanbase in an attempt to get closer to the Original Series]].

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* MyRealDaddy: Since the Original Series was the only series produced by Man of Action, there are a sizeable amount of fans who consider it alone canon and regard the various sequels as FanonDiscontinuity though there FanonDiscontinuity.
** There
are also many ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]''[=/=]''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'' fans who credit Creator/DwayneMcDuffie and Glen Murakami for making the characters mature, and as a result have a similarly hostile reaction toward ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Omniverse]]'' for being DenserAndWackier and making several AF[=/=]UA episodes non-canon [[PanderingToTheFanbase [[PanderingToTheBase in an attempt to get closer to the Original Series]].
19th Apr '18 6:59:57 PM Isaac_Heller
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* HypeBacklash: The huge success this series had, and the fact many fans [[FirstInstallmentWins are only loyal to it]], has caused many people (both fans of the sequels and people who don't particularly like the franchise) to be more critical toward it and point out its flaws. Common criticisms include the lack of CharacterDevelopment, Ben's and Gwen's bickering being perceived as annoying, the waste of many good [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter characters]] (Xylene) and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot plots]] (How Ghostfreak ended up in the Omntrix) and the villains being one-dimensional.

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* HypeBacklash: The huge success this series had, and the fact many fans [[FirstInstallmentWins are only loyal to it]], has caused many people (both fans of the sequels and people who don't particularly like the franchise) to be more critical toward it and point out its flaws. Common criticisms include the lack of CharacterDevelopment, Ben's and Gwen's bickering being perceived as annoying, the waste of many good [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter characters]] (Xylene) and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot plots]] (How (how Ghostfreak ended up in the Omntrix) Omntrix, which was relegated to a one-time pop-up commentary during a marathon) and most of the villains being one-dimensional.
19th Apr '18 6:58:02 PM Isaac_Heller
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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: Creator/ManOfActionStudios, due to kickstarting the franchise, tended to be looked at rather fondly, and their lack of involvement with the sequels was criticized. In light of their ''Marvel'' cartoons in TheNewTens, however, the view has significantly lessened, especially in regards to the [[WesternAnimation/Ben102016 reboot]] sharing a similar DenserAndWackier tone to ''Omniverse''.

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* OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight: Creator/ManOfActionStudios, due to kickstarting the franchise, tended to be looked at rather fondly, and their lack of involvement with the sequels was criticized. In light of their ''Marvel'' cartoons in TheNewTens, however, the view has significantly lessened, especially in regards to the [[WesternAnimation/Ben102016 reboot]] sharing a similar DenserAndWackier tone to ''Omniverse''.''Omniverse'', although to be fair ''that'' aspect is more the fault of [[NetworkDecay Cartoon Network and its current standards]] than it is Man of Action.
19th Apr '18 6:54:36 PM Isaac_Heller
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* EvilIsSexy: Charmcaster. Which of her three character designs is sexiest is up to debate, though.

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* EvilIsSexy: Charmcaster. Which of her three character designs is sexiest is up to debate, though.


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* DracoInLeatherPants: Kevin 11 and Charmcaster, in no small part due to their portrayals in later shows. While they ''do'' have some AntiVillain traits in this series and WordOfGod says they were always intended to develop more AntiHero traits as well, they are still mostly [[JerkWithAHeartOfJerk straight-up villains who like doing evil and reject any offers of redemption]], and with Kevin being straight-up AxCrazy to a [[TheSociopath sociopathic degree.]]
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