History YMMV / Ben10

17th Oct '17 5:22:07 PM Isaac_Heller
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* HypeBacklash: The huge success this series had, and the fact many fans [[FirstInstallmentWins are only loyal to it]], has caused many people (both fans of the sequels and people who don't particularly like the franchise) to be more critical toward it and point out its flaws. Common criticisms include the lack of CharacterDevelopment, Ben's and Gwen's bickering being perceived as annoying, the waste of many good [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter characters]] (Xylene) and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot plots]] (How Ghostfreak ended up in the Omntrix) and the villains being one-dimensional. Similarly, Creator/ManOfActionStudios used to be considered OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight for the franchise and the fact they only worked on that show was used as a justification for not liking the sequels; since then, their work on very unpopular Marvel cartoons have caused many people to notice flaws in their writing that already existed in the original Ben 10.

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* HypeBacklash: The huge success this series had, and the fact many fans [[FirstInstallmentWins are only loyal to it]], has caused many people (both fans of the sequels and people who don't particularly like the franchise) to be more critical toward it and point out its flaws. Common criticisms include the lack of CharacterDevelopment, Ben's and Gwen's bickering being perceived as annoying, the waste of many good [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter characters]] (Xylene) and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot plots]] (How Ghostfreak ended up in the Omntrix) and the villains being one-dimensional.
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Similarly, Creator/ManOfActionStudios used to be considered OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight for the franchise and the fact they only worked on that show was used as a justification for not liking the sequels; since then, their work on very unpopular Marvel cartoons have caused many people to notice flaws in their writing that already existed in the original Ben 10. ''Ben 10.''
17th Oct '17 5:15:59 PM Isaac_Heller
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** The fact the original series is getting a reboot has proven polarizing. Some fans are happy, given that there are a certain group of people who think that the show was best when the main characters were a ten-year-old Ben and Gwen, along with Grandpa Max, while others are accusing the reboot of being an essential attempt to draw more cash out of what is already a large CashCowFranchise (merchandise for it has sold over ''four billions'' worth) and given that the show isn't even ten years old, an entire reboot is insane with people wondering if this means that the likes of Alien Force or Ultimate Alien will also be rebooted in years to come. For [[TakeAThirdOption taking a third option]], many fans don't like what the art-style for the cartoon seems to be, saying Ben looks a lot younger than ten in it and seems more cartoonish.

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** The fact the original series is getting a reboot has proven polarizing. Some fans are happy, given that there are a certain group of people who think that the show was best when the main characters were a ten-year-old Ben and Gwen, along with Grandpa Max, while others are accusing the reboot of being an essential attempt to draw more cash out of what is already a large CashCowFranchise (merchandise for it has sold over ''four billions'' worth) and given that the show isn't even ten years old, an entire reboot is insane with people wondering if this means that the likes of Alien Force ''Alien Force'' or Ultimate Alien ''Ultimate Alien'' will also be rebooted in years to come.come (although WordOfGod says there are no plans for it). For [[TakeAThirdOption taking a third option]], many fans don't like what the art-style for the cartoon seems to be, saying Ben looks a lot younger than ten in it and seems more cartoonish.



* SoOkayItsAverage: The franchise as a whole is usually seen as this by non-fans. While it has a lot going for it such as good fight choreography, creative aliens, and a lot of good talent, writers and voice actors alike, it also suffers from [[DependingOnTheWriter inconsistent writing]], fairly basic characterization, and rarely goes very far into worldbuilding the universe the characters live in. Even some actual fans will admit that while they love the franchise, they do wish it had been more.
* TaintedByThePreview: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DffWEfarLxk The Comic-con preview clip of the reboot]] has already gained a large amount of flak. Points of interest include Gwen having a different Voice Actress, Diamondhead having different powers, the more simplistic design, and the background characters having the same problem as in WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls2016. [[note]]They look like they belong in a completely different cartoon, only here thanks to the trace amounts of {{Animesque}}, it's much more jarring. [[/note]]

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* SoOkayItsAverage: The franchise as a whole is usually seen as this by non-fans. While it has a lot going for it such as good fight choreography, creative aliens, and a lot of good talent, writers and voice actors alike, it also suffers from [[DependingOnTheWriter inconsistent writing]], fairly basic characterization, and rarely goes very far into worldbuilding the universe the characters live in.in, with a lot of it contradicted across the shows due to the different creative teams at the helm. Even some actual fans will admit that while they love the franchise, they do wish it had been more.
* TaintedByThePreview: [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DffWEfarLxk The Comic-con preview clip of the reboot]] has already gained a large amount of flak. Points of interest include Gwen and Grandpa Max having a different Voice Actress, voice actors, Diamondhead having different powers, the more simplistic design, and the background characters having the same problem as in WesternAnimation/ThePowerpuffGirls2016. [[note]]They look like they belong in a completely different cartoon, only here thanks to the trace amounts of {{Animesque}}, it's much more jarring. [[/note]]
17th Oct '17 5:09:12 PM Isaac_Heller
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* EvilIsSexy: Charmcaster.

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* EvilIsSexy: Charmcaster. Which of her three character designs is sexiest is up to debate, though.



** Dr Animo is as cliche and over-the-top as a MadScientist can get, but still manages to be an entertaining villain.

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** Dr Dr. Animo is as cliche and over-the-top as a MadScientist can get, but still manages to be an entertaining villain.villain. A ''huge'' part of this is his voice by [[Creator/DwightSchultz Dwight Schultz]], who [[LargeHam does not hold anything back in the part.]]



* EvilIsCool: This show is a ''master'' at creating awesome bad guys. Vilgax, Kevin, Ghostfreak, Hex, Charmcaster, the Forever Knights (especially the Forever King), Sixsix and his family, and nearly all the other villains (with the exception of Sublimino) who made up the Negative 10 could count.

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* EvilIsCool: This show is a ''master'' at creating awesome bad guys. Vilgax, Kevin, Ghostfreak, Hex, Charmcaster, the Forever Knights (especially the Forever King), Sixsix and his family, and nearly all the other villains (with the exception of Sublimino) Sublimino, who's a NoRespectGuy even among his teammates) who made up the Negative 10 could count.
11th Sep '17 10:03:48 AM Silverblade2
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* MyRealDaddy: Since the Original Series was the only series produced by Man of Action, there are a sizeable amount of fans who consider it alone canon and regard the various sequels as FanonDiscontinuity.
** Though there are also many ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]''[=/=]''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'' fans who credit Creator/DwayneMcDuffie and Glen Murakami for making the characters mature, and as a result have a similarly hostile reaction toward ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Omniverse]]'' for being DenserAndWackier and making several AF[=/=]UA episodes non-canon [[PanderingToTheFanbase in an attempt to get closer to the Original Series]].

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* MyRealDaddy: Since the Original Series was the only series produced by Man of Action, there are a sizeable amount of fans who consider it alone canon and regard the various sequels as FanonDiscontinuity.
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FanonDiscontinuity though there are also many ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]''[=/=]''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'' fans who credit Creator/DwayneMcDuffie and Glen Murakami for making the characters mature, and as a result have a similarly hostile reaction toward ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Omniverse]]'' for being DenserAndWackier and making several AF[=/=]UA episodes non-canon [[PanderingToTheFanbase in an attempt to get closer to the Original Series]].



* HypeBacklash: The huge success this series had, and the fact many fans [[FirstInstallmentWins are only loyal to it]], has caused many people (both fans of the sequels and people who don't particularly like the franchise) to be more critical toward it and point out its flaws. Common criticisms include the lack of CharacterDevelopment, Ben's and Gwen's bickering being perceived as annoying, the waste of many good [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter characters]] (Xylene) and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot plots]] (How Ghostfreak ended up in the Omntrix) and the villains being one-dimensional. Similarly, Creator/ManOfActionStudios used to be considered MyRealDaddy for the franchise and the fact they only worked on that show was used as a justification for not liking the sequels; since then, their work on very unpopular Marvel cartoons have caused many people to notice flaws in their writing that already existed in the original Ben 10.

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* HypeBacklash: The huge success this series had, and the fact many fans [[FirstInstallmentWins are only loyal to it]], has caused many people (both fans of the sequels and people who don't particularly like the franchise) to be more critical toward it and point out its flaws. Common criticisms include the lack of CharacterDevelopment, Ben's and Gwen's bickering being perceived as annoying, the waste of many good [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodCharacter characters]] (Xylene) and [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot plots]] (How Ghostfreak ended up in the Omntrix) and the villains being one-dimensional. Similarly, Creator/ManOfActionStudios used to be considered MyRealDaddy OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight for the franchise and the fact they only worked on that show was used as a justification for not liking the sequels; since then, their work on very unpopular Marvel cartoons have caused many people to notice flaws in their writing that already existed in the original Ben 10.
6th Sep '17 1:35:32 PM Manny20444
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** Ben's dislike of the Super Alien Hero Buddies for being bastardizations of his own alien forms in "Super Alien Hero Buddy Adventures" is funnier to look back on in light of the controversy and polarization caused by ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Omniverse]]'' and [[WesternAnimation/Ben102016 the reboot]] trying to be DenserAndWackier than ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]'' and ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]''.

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** Ben's dislike of the Super Alien Hero Buddies for being bastardizations of his own alien forms in "Super Alien Hero Buddy Adventures" is funnier to look back on in light of the controversy and polarization and controversy respectively caused by ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Omniverse]]'' and [[WesternAnimation/Ben102016 the reboot]] trying to be DenserAndWackier than ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]'' and ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]''.



* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: ''Race Against Time''. Dear lordy, ''Race Against Time''. Some fans were NOT happy when they realized the aliens were not voiced by the original voice actors.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: ''Race Against Time''. Dear lordy, ''Race Against Time''. Some A lot of fans were NOT happy when they realized the aliens were not voiced by the original voice actors.
5th Sep '17 1:22:56 PM system
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28th Aug '17 8:38:26 AM HarmoniousPussy
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** [[EvilOverlord Vilgax]], the OverarchingVillain of the entire franchise and by far Ben Tennyson's [[ArchEnemy most personal enemy]], is a psychopathic [[GalacticConqueror galactic warlord]]. After his evil caused him to be banished from his homeworld, Vilgax went on to assault and conquer numerous planets across the cosmos, outright annihilating the entire planet of Petropia and its billions of inhabitants to make an example of those who resist him. After discovering the existence of the Omnitrix, Vilgax becomes obsessed with possessing the gadget to modify it for his own gain, and spends much of the first series sending wave after wave of his forces to Earth solely to [[WouldHurtAChild kill Ben Tennyson, a 10-year-old-boy]], and steal the watch from him, later trying to viciously [[AnArmAndALeg saw the boy's arm off]] and [[EarthShatteringKaboom blow up the entire Earth]] for the trouble it has caused him. In ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]'', Vilgax [[VillainWithGoodPublicity builds up his image as a law-abiding citizen]] by "legally" conquering 10 planets, though ultimately ditches this persona and tries to use the Omnitrix to lead a full-scale war against all who would stand against him. In ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'', Vilgax becomes the herald for [[EldritchAbomination Diagon]] before betraying and killing his master and stealing his power, hoping to use it to mind control all life in the universe. In the final series, ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Omniverse]]'', Vilgax, though at first seeming to have [[VillainDecay decayed in his evil]], pulls out perhaps the most wicked scheme in the entire franchise, using a Chronosapien Time Bomb to [[OmnicidalManiac wipe out all dimensions and timelines]], his own included, to leave only a single, more submissive universe for him to conquer and rule. Vilgax was a purely evil madman who would kill first billions, then insurmountable trillions, just to satisfy his raging desire to be the most powerful being in the universe, and stands out as the most iconic villain in ''Ben 10'' for this very reason.
** There's also [[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Aggregor]] & [[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Maltruant]]. See those pages for details.

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** [[EvilOverlord Vilgax]], the OverarchingVillain of the entire franchise and by far Ben Tennyson's [[ArchEnemy most personal enemy]], is a psychopathic [[GalacticConqueror galactic warlord]]. After his evil caused him to be banished from his homeworld, Vilgax went on to assault and conquer numerous planets across the cosmos, outright annihilating the entire planet of Petropia and its billions of inhabitants to make an example of those who resist him. After discovering the existence of the Omnitrix, Vilgax becomes obsessed with possessing the gadget to modify it for his own gain, and spends much of the first series sending wave after wave of his forces to Earth solely to [[WouldHurtAChild kill Ben Tennyson, a 10-year-old-boy]], and steal the watch from him, later trying to viciously [[AnArmAndALeg saw the boy's arm off]] and [[EarthShatteringKaboom blow up the entire Earth]] for the trouble it has caused him. In ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10AlienForce Alien Force]]'', Vilgax [[VillainWithGoodPublicity builds up his image as a law-abiding citizen]] by "legally" conquering 10 planets, though ultimately ditches this persona and tries to use the Omnitrix to lead a full-scale war against all who would stand against him. In ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Ultimate Alien]]'', Vilgax becomes the herald for [[EldritchAbomination Diagon]] before betraying and killing his master and stealing his power, hoping to use it to mind control all life in the universe. In the final series, ''[[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Omniverse]]'', Vilgax, though at first seeming to have [[VillainDecay decayed in his evil]], pulls out perhaps the most wicked scheme in the entire franchise, using a Chronosapien Time Bomb to [[OmnicidalManiac wipe out all dimensions and timelines]], his own included, to leave only a single, more submissive universe for him to conquer and rule. Vilgax was a purely evil madman who would kill first billions, then insurmountable trillions, just to satisfy his raging desire to be the most powerful being in the universe, and stands out as the most iconic villain in ''Ben 10'' for this very reason.
** There's also [[WesternAnimation/Ben10UltimateAlien Aggregor]] & [[WesternAnimation/Ben10Omniverse Maltruant]]. See those pages for details.
15th Aug '17 1:20:33 AM Silverblade2
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* FirstInstallmentWins: While the other shows have their fanbases, many fans are very loyal to the first series. That it's [[MyRealDaddy the only one the actual creators worked on]] (until the ContinuityReboot) helps matters.

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* FirstInstallmentWins: While the other shows have their fanbases, many fans are very loyal to the first series. That it's [[MyRealDaddy [[OnlyTheCreatorDoesItRight the only one the actual creators worked on]] (until the ContinuityReboot) helps matters.
23rd Jul '17 4:51:30 PM Manny20444
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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Some fans find it jarring how chummy Ben and Gwen are in the reboot. Though those that liked how friendlier they were in the previous series see this as one of the few positives of the reboot.

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* TheyChangedItNowItSucks: Some Many fans find it jarring how chummy Ben and Gwen are in the reboot. Though those there are some people that liked how friendlier they were in the previous series see this as one of the few positives of the reboot.
23rd Jul '17 4:50:34 PM Manny20444
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* JustHereForGodzilla: Some people just watched the show to see [[BadassGrandpa Grandpa Max]] be ''completely awesome''.

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* JustHereForGodzilla: Some While majority of the people just watched the show to see Ben transform into an alien form, there were some who just stuck around to see [[BadassGrandpa Grandpa Max]] be ''completely awesome''.
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