History YMMV / Beethoven

16th May '17 4:12:17 PM ngh93
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'''George''': Okay, good! They're close. Better wash your hands.

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'''George''': Okay, good! They're close. Better Uh, better wash your hands.
16th May '17 4:11:39 PM ngh93
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* {{Squick}}: From the second movie, Ryce actually touching the puppies' ''excrement'' to see if they are nearby after Regina and Floyd have snatched them away.

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* {{Squick}}: From the second movie, Ryce (albeit reluctantly) actually touching the puppies' ''excrement'' to see if they are nearby after Regina and Floyd have snatched them away. away.
-->'''Ryce''': Eww. It's warm.\\
'''George''': Okay, good! They're close. Better wash your hands.
1st May '17 1:11:56 PM GothicProphet
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* CrowningMomentOfAwesome: Beethoven scares the bullies harassing Ted, [[ScaredOfWhatsBehindYou who didn't know he was behind him]] and thought they were running from him when he raised his fists.
-->'''Ted:''' And don't come back!
** Ted gets another when he hears gunfire from Dr. Varnick's lab with his Dad already inside fighting the dognappers; with the police nowhere in sight, he ''drives his parents' car into the lab'', saving his Dad and Beethoven while also sending a flurry of syringes into Dr. Varnick's chest.
* CrowningMomentOfFunny: During the montage, George comes home to find it a mess, the stair railing covered in drool, and finding Beethoven all wet in his bed, and shakes himself dry, getting George all wet.
** Beethoven crashing George's dinner meeting with Brad and Brie, dragging them both by the leash while they're still in their chairs, taking the deck table with them!



* MisaimedFandom: One professional critic found George to be UnintentionallySympathetic and his family and Beethoven to be UnintentionallyUnsympathetic. According to him, George works his hands to the bone trying to provide a good life for his family, who thank him by foisting a dog on him that he doesn't want, making him do all the gross parts of taking care of it, and then ostracize him when he gets rid of it. In his opinion, the family isn't just ungrateful and unappreciative but downright nasty towards George. The critic did at least admit that he wasn't a big fan of dogs in the first place though.



* MisaimedFandom: One professional critic found George to be UnintentionallySympathetic and his family and Beethoven to be UnintentionallyUnsympathetic. According to him, George works his hands to the bone trying to provide a good life for his family, who thank him by foisting a dog on him that he doesn't want, making him do all the gross parts of taking care of it, and then ostracize him when he gets rid of it. In his opinion, the family isn't just ungrateful and unappreciative but downright nasty towards George. The critic did at least admit that he wasn't a big fan of dogs in the first place though.
* NightmareFuel: The first movie has a brief shot, complete with ominous music, of what looks like a crematorium. The second movie may have some of this for kids, as one scene has Regina's Mook, Floyd, holding a puppy over a waterfall. [[spoiler: He never drops it, though.]]
** ''Beethoven's Second'' has a particularly dark scene when Ryce stops by a party hosted by a guy she likes. They go up to a room where they start kissing. Ryce suddenly decides she wants to leave, but the guy locked the door. You can imagine what would have happened if Beethoven didn't inadvertently save her.
** Emily nearly drowns in the swimming pool while under the babysitter's watch, and nobody hears her cries for help. If not for Beethoven, she almost certainly would not have made it.
** Also from the first film, [[spoiler: the villain getting impaled with a bunch of syringes. Even though he survives, [[FamilyUnfriendlyViolence it's still rather jarring for a family film.]]]]
** Another from the first film Dr. Varnack going through all the lengths to get Beethoven for the sole purpose of shooting him to test a new type of ammunition.



* TearJerker: When George is about to take Beethoven to the vet to be put down, he [[ImagineSpot briefly saw him]] as the little puppy he was when they found him.
-->'''George:''' I'm so sorry. [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming You were my dog too.]]
1st May '17 1:06:55 PM GothicProphet
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* Squick: From the second movie, Ryce actually touching the puppies' ''excrement'' to see if they are nearby after Regina and Floyd have snatched them away.

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* Squick: {{Squick}}: From the second movie, Ryce actually touching the puppies' ''excrement'' to see if they are nearby after Regina and Floyd have snatched them away.



** Even more so in the second movie, where Ryce is very nearly raped by her own drunken boyfriend who has locked her up in a bedroom against her will.

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** Even more so in the second movie, where Ryce is very nearly raped by her own drunken boyfriend who has locked her up in a bedroom against her will.will.
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27th Mar '17 9:43:36 PM TheTrailblazerCritic
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* SpecialEffectsFailure: From the first movie, one can clearly make out a sled attached to the Newtons' deck table as Beethoven drags it and the two scheming venture capitalists down the sidewalk.
10th Nov '16 12:13:28 PM TheTrailblazerCritic
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** Alice watching Beethoven drag Brad and Brie down the street when he crashes their meeting, and while George attempts to stop him, Alice simply smiles and bids them farewell.


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** Beethoven crashing George's dinner meeting with Brad and Brie, dragging them both by the leash while they're still in their chairs, taking the deck table with them!


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** Emily nearly drowns in the swimming pool while under the babysitter's watch, and nobody hears her cries for help. If not for Beethoven, she almost certainly would not have made it.
10th Nov '16 12:04:22 PM TheTrailblazerCritic
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Ted rams the family car into Dr. Varnick's office, saving both his Dad and Beethoven while also launching an entire tray of ''syringes'' right into the mad doctor's chest. Ted's response?
-->'''Ted:''' Cool!
3rd Nov '16 10:42:53 AM Droemar
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* IdiotPlot: For the first film, Beethoven has no major behavioral or temperamental issues. Even the barest modicum of obedience training or basic boundaries would have solved most of George's problem with the dog.


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* IdiotPlot: For the first film, Beethoven has no major behavioral or temperamental issues. Even the barest modicum of obedience training or basic boundaries would have solved most of George's problems with the dog.
3rd Nov '16 10:41:48 AM Droemar
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* IdiotPlot: For the first film, Beethoven has no major behavioral or temperamental issues. Even the barest modicum of obedience training or basic boundaries would have solved most of George's problem with the dog.
5th Oct '16 5:00:23 PM TheTrailblazerCritic
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** Ted gets another when he hears gunfire from Dr. Varnick's lab with his Dad already inside fighting the dognappers; with the police nowhere in sight, he ''drives his parents' car into the lab'', saving his Dad and Beethoven while also sending a flurry of syringes into Dr. Varnick's chest.



* Squick: From the second movie, Ryce actually touching the puppies' ''excrement'' to see if they are nearby after Regina and Floyd have snatched them away.



* UnacceptableTargets: The American Veterinary Association wrote a letter to the head of the MPAA (Jack Valenti) about the main villain of the first film being a veterinarian.

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* UnacceptableTargets: The American Veterinary Association wrote a letter to the head of the MPAA (Jack Valenti) about the main villain of the first film being a veterinarian.veterinarian.
* WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids: The first film hinges on an amoral veterinarian intending to use Beethoven for an ammunition test, and does not make light of all the abuse the animals in his care are enduring on his watch.
** Even more so in the second movie, where Ryce is very nearly raped by her own drunken boyfriend who has locked her up in a bedroom against her will.
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