History YMMV / BeastWars

28th Aug '16 11:35:37 PM overman2099
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: For some fans, the long-running Vok subplot turned into this after the first season. In the first season, there was always a sense of awe and mystery whenever the aliens and their influence over the planet were involved. Not to mention the Vok story gave Beast Wars some of its most epic moments, from the floating island down to their planet-buster in the season finale. Come season two, the aliens make their presence known again by [[spoiler: kidnapping Tigatron and Airazor]] and unleashing their Metalhunter ship, but beyond that, the Vok still don't show their faces and the audience doesn't really learn anything new about the aliens. In the third season, the Vok finally make themselves known and [[spoiler: send their emissary Tigerhawk to Earth to deal with Megatron and defeat all the Predacons]]. But afterwards, they [[spoiler: both kill and get killed by Tarantulas in an accidental MurderSuicide despite allegedly being cosmic beings strong enough to CurbStomp the entire Predacon team but yet can't stand up to Tarantulas' cyber-venom]]. So even though the Vok were implied to have created much of what the Maximals and Predacons encountered on earth(Stonehenge, the floating island, etc.), in addition to being the [[OverArchingVillain overarching villains]] of the show, some fans, to this day, consider the Vok subplot to be one story in Beast Wars which started out good but fizzled out towards the end and never lived up to its full potential.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: For some fans, the long-running Vok subplot turned into this after the first season. In the first season, there was always a sense of awe and mystery whenever the aliens and their influence over the planet were involved. Not to mention the Vok story gave Beast Wars some of its most epic moments, from the floating island down to their planet-buster in the season finale. Come season two, the aliens make their presence known again by [[spoiler: kidnapping Tigatron and Airazor]] and unleashing their Metalhunter ship, but beyond that, the Vok still don't show their faces and the audience doesn't really learn anything new about the aliens. In the third season, the Vok finally make themselves known and [[spoiler: send their emissary Tigerhawk to Earth to deal with Megatron and defeat all the Predacons]]. But afterwards, they [[spoiler: both kill and get killed by Tarantulas in an accidental MurderSuicide despite allegedly being cosmic beings strong enough to CurbStomp the entire Predacon team but yet can't [[ForgotAboutHisPowers stand up to Tarantulas' cyber-venom]].cyber-venom]]]]. So even though the Vok were implied to have created much of what the Maximals and Predacons encountered on earth(Stonehenge, the floating island, etc.), in addition to being the [[OverArchingVillain overarching villains]] of the show, some fans, to this day, consider the Vok subplot to be one story in Beast Wars which started out good but fizzled out towards the end and never lived up to its full potential.
28th Aug '16 3:49:32 PM overman2099
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: For some fans, the long-running Vok subplot turned into this after the first season. In the first season, there was always a sense of awe and mystery whenever the aliens and their influence over the planet were involved. Not to mention the Vok story gave Beast Wars some of its most epic moments, from the floating island down to their planet-buster in the season finale. Come season two, the aliens make their presence known again by [[spoiler: kidnapping Tigatron and Airazor]] and unleashing their Metalhunter ship, but beyond that, the Vok still don't show their faces and the audience doesn't really learn anything new about the aliens. In the third season, the Vok finally make themselves known and [[spoiler: send their emissary Tigerhawk to Earth to deal with Megatron and defeat all the Predacons]]. But afterwards, they [[spoiler: both kill and get killed by Tarantulas in an accidental MurderSuicide despite allegedly being cosmic beings strong enough to CurbStomp the entire Predacon team but yet can't stand up to Tarantulas' cyber-venom]]. So even though the Vok were implied to have created much of what the Maximals and Predacons encountered on earth(Stonehenge, the floating island, etc.), in addition to being the [[OverArchingVillain overarching villains]] of the show, some fans, to this day, consider the Vok subplot to be one story in Beast Wars which started out good but fizzled out towards the end and never lived up to its full potential.
21st Jun '16 6:07:45 PM themisterfree
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** Rhinox is green and gold. His VO artist, Richard Newman, would go on to play a [[Literature/{{Franklin}} father whose colors are green and gold....]]
11th Jun '16 11:07:16 AM overman2099
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** Megatron. Despite being a fairly charismatic and silver-tongued character, Megatron himself gets very little love in-canon. It goes without saying that the Maximals despise him. But even when it comes to his own Predacon troops, Megatron has almost little to no grassroots support. Dinobot made no secret of the fact that he considered Megatron an incompetent leader as soon as they landed on earth and challenged him for leadership of the Predacons. Terrorsaur always tries to overthrow him whenever the opportunity presents itself. Waspinator is always complaining about the menial labor that Megatron gives him. Both Tarantulas and Blackarachnia constantly work to undermine him through more devious and underhanded schemes. Quickstrike can always be persuaded to turn against Megatron through the persuasions of a more charismatic and intelligent 'bot like Tarantulas. And Rampage absolutely hates his guts and would kill him brutally in an instant if not for the fact that Megatron held part of his spark as leverage. Of all the Predacons, only Scorponok and Inferno absolutely like him without question and even in Inferno's case, it can be argued that Inferno isn't really of sound mind, considering how scrambled his circuits were after scanning an ant beast mode, having a damaged stasis pod, and Tarantulas tampering with his core programming. Pretty much of all the characters on the show, only Scorponok can be considered the only character of (relatively)sound mind who genuinely likes Megatron. Out-of-universe, however, Megatron is beloved by the Transformers fanbase and even after several years of new TF reboots, BW Megatron is still considered THE best incarnation of Megatron by a lot of fans no matter how much he's universally disliked in the show itself.

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** Megatron. Despite being a fairly charismatic and silver-tongued character, Megatron himself gets very little love in-canon. It goes without saying that the Maximals despise him. But even when it comes to his own Predacon troops, Megatron has almost little to no grassroots support. Dinobot made no secret of the fact that he considered Megatron an incompetent leader as soon as they landed on earth and challenged him for leadership of the Predacons. Terrorsaur always tries to overthrow him whenever the opportunity presents itself. Waspinator is always complaining about the menial labor that Megatron gives him. Both Tarantulas and Blackarachnia constantly work to undermine him through more devious and underhanded schemes. Quickstrike can always be persuaded to turn against Megatron through the persuasions of a more charismatic and intelligent 'bot like Tarantulas. And Rampage absolutely hates his guts and would kill him brutally in an instant if not for the fact that Megatron held part of his spark as leverage. Even Predacons in a position of power back on Cybertron such as the Tripredacus Council consider Megatron a rogue and a nuisance who needs to be brought to heel and the agent they sent, Ravage himself, has no respect for Megatron or his pretensions(he ONLY sides with Megatron once Megatron presents him with an offer that's too good to pass up which would have completely assured a Decepticon victory and an absolute Autobot defeat). Of all the Predacons, only Scorponok and Inferno absolutely like him without question and even in Inferno's case, it can be argued that Inferno isn't really of sound mind, considering how scrambled his circuits were after scanning an ant beast mode, having a damaged stasis pod, and Tarantulas tampering with his core programming. Pretty much of all the characters on the show, only Scorponok can be considered the only character of (relatively)sound mind who genuinely likes Megatron. Out-of-universe, however, Megatron is beloved by the Transformers fanbase and even after several years of new TF reboots, BW Megatron is still considered THE best incarnation of Megatron by a lot of fans no matter how much he's universally disliked in the show itself.
10th Jun '16 11:08:02 PM overman2099
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** Megatron. Despite being a fairly charismatic and silver-tongued character, Megatron himself gets very little love in-canon. It goes without saying that the Maximals despise him. But even when it comes to his own Predacon troops, Megatron has almost little to no grassroots support. Dinobot made no secret of the fact that he considered Megatron an incompetent leader as soon as they landed on earth and challenged him for leadership of the Predacons. Terrorsaur always tries to overthrow him whenever the opportunity presents itself. Waspinator is always complaining about the menial labor that Megatron gives him. Both Tarantulas and Blackarachnia constantly work to undermine him through more devious and underhanded schemes. Quickstrike can always be persuaded to turn against Megatron through the persuasions of a more charismatic and intelligent 'bot like Tarantulas. And Rampage absolutely hates his guts and would kill him brutally in an instant if not for the fact that Megatron held part of his spark as leverage. Of all the Predacons, only Scorponok and Inferno absolutely like him without question and even in Inferno's case, it can be argued that Inferno isn't really of sound mind, considering how scrambled his circuits were after scanning an ant beast mode, having a damaged stasis pod, and Tarantulas tampering with his core programming. Pretty much of all the characters on the show, only Scorponok can be considered the only character of (relatively)sound mind who genuinely likes Megatron. Out-of-universe, however, Megatron is beloved by the Transformers fanbase and even after several years of new TF reboots, BW Megatron is still considered THE best incarnation of Megatron by a lot of fans no matter how much he's universally disliked in the show itself.
12th May '16 6:38:54 AM SideburnsKid
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** Any serious moment where a character is in Beast Mode has the potential to be this.
21st Apr '16 6:16:33 PM themisterfree
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** Of the toy-only characters who didn't make it into the show, Razorbeast is quite popular with fans. This is largely due to Simon Furman's usage of him in IDW's ''Beast Wars'' comics, where he's portrayed as a snarky and stern yet kind-hearted GuileHero. (And the fac that [[Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir Will Smith was looking for him since October.]]

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** Of the toy-only characters who didn't make it into the show, Razorbeast is quite popular with fans. This is largely due to Simon Furman's usage of him in IDW's ''Beast Wars'' comics, where he's portrayed as a snarky and stern yet kind-hearted GuileHero. (And the fac fact that [[Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir Will Smith was looking for him since October.]]]])
21st Apr '16 6:16:16 PM themisterfree
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** Of the toy-only characters who didn't make it into the show, Razorbeast is quite popular with fans. This is largely due to Simon Furman's usage of him in IDW's ''Beast Wars'' comics, where he's portrayed as a snarky and stern yet kind-hearted GuileHero.

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** Of the toy-only characters who didn't make it into the show, Razorbeast is quite popular with fans. This is largely due to Simon Furman's usage of him in IDW's ''Beast Wars'' comics, where he's portrayed as a snarky and stern yet kind-hearted GuileHero. (And the fac that [[Series/TheFreshPrinceOfBelAir Will Smith was looking for him since October.]]
12th Apr '16 7:19:46 AM ACW
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** [[BigBad Megatron]] is a self-proclaimed tyrant and would-be GalacticConqueror, who named himself after his world's equivalent of TheAntichrist. A [[BadBoss user and abuser of his followers]], Megatron divides the world into enemies and pawns, killing or enslaving the former, and ruthlessly exploiting the latter. A gloating sadist, Megatron never kills anyone quickly when prolonged torture will do, [[WeHaveReserves considers his own allies expendable]], and hopes to bring Cybertron, and eventually the galaxy, under his heel. His more notable crimes include extracting half of Rampage's spark, placing it in a vise, and using it to torture Rampage into submission; ordering Dinobot to kill Quickstrike, one of Megatron's (relatively) more loyal soldiers, after Quickstrike lost to Dinobot in a sort of re-entrance exam into the Predacons (Dinobot refused); an aborted genocide of humanity's common ancestor; attempting to rewrite all of his history by killing the original Optimus Prime; and finally, sacrificing all his remaining troops in order to gain control of the ''Nemesis'' and set out to overrun the galaxy. His defeat doesn't stop him either - when he returns in ''WesternAnimation/BeastMachines'' he's gotten worse, picking up a serious [[AGodAmI god complex]] along the way. Seizing control of Cybertron, Megatron [[YourSoulIsMine extracts the sparks]] from everyone on the planet, reducing them to [[SoullessShell mindless drones]]. Accquiring a hatred of all organic life, Megatron [[OmnicidalManiac tries to scrub Cybertron clean of it]], resulting in the near destruction of all life, robotic and organic, on his home planet when his last mad grasp for power finally fails.

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** [[BigBad Megatron]] is a self-proclaimed tyrant and would-be GalacticConqueror, who named himself after his world's equivalent of TheAntichrist. A [[BadBoss user and abuser of his followers]], Megatron divides the world into enemies and pawns, killing or enslaving the former, and ruthlessly exploiting the latter. A gloating sadist, Megatron never kills anyone quickly when prolonged torture will do, [[WeHaveReserves considers his own allies expendable]], and hopes to bring Cybertron, and eventually the galaxy, under his heel. His more notable crimes include extracting half of Rampage's spark, placing it in a vise, and using it to torture Rampage into submission; unsuccessfully ordering Dinobot to kill Quickstrike, one of Megatron's (relatively) relatively more loyal soldiers, after Quickstrike lost to Dinobot in a sort of re-entrance exam into the Predacons (Dinobot refused); Predacons; an aborted genocide of humanity's common ancestor; attempting to rewrite all of his history by killing the original Optimus Prime; and finally, sacrificing all his remaining troops in order to gain control of the ''Nemesis'' and set out to overrun the galaxy. His defeat doesn't stop him either - when he returns in ''WesternAnimation/BeastMachines'' he's gotten worse, picking up a serious [[AGodAmI god complex]] along the way. Seizing control of Cybertron, Megatron [[YourSoulIsMine extracts the sparks]] from everyone on the planet, reducing them to [[SoullessShell mindless drones]]. Accquiring a hatred of all organic life, Megatron [[OmnicidalManiac tries to scrub Cybertron clean of it]], resulting in the near destruction of all life, robotic and organic, on his home planet when his last mad grasp for power finally fails.
24th Mar '16 7:25:52 PM WJTaylor4
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** How much of Blackarachnia's personality is really her own and how much of it is the Predacon programming Tarantulas installed in her? [[spoiler:When she "died" and was "reborn" a Transmetal Maximal she cheerfully proclaimed "Even when I'm good I'm still bad" and indeed her personality was really not that different other than just being not evil and siding with the Maximals out or pragmatism, so it's possible that's just who she is... or maybe it was the Predacon personality Tarantulas installed in her, only now with the original Maximal programming restraining her more savage traits.]]


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** Rhinox laughing off his brief stint of being reprogrammed into a Predacon, and the other Maximals laughing it off with him (except former Predacon Dinobot) becomes a lot less funny [[spoiler:after ''Beast Machines'', where both he and Silverbolt are reprogrammed as evil Vehicons, which also makes it harder not to wince at Silverbolt's own NiceGuy personality in this series.]]
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