History YMMV / BatmanTheAnimatedSeries

7th Nov '16 11:40:33 AM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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* VillainDecay:
** Though Joker is clearly menacing and insane as ever to start out, in the TNBA season he's far less psychotic, laughs much less, and is scared out of his wits after a few minutes with the Creeper. Fortunately, this is undone in his [[WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker later]] [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague appearances]].
** The Riddler. Pre-TNBA, he was the main villain of three appearances and could only be bested by Batman and Robin after many taxing challenges and ingenuity on their part. In every TNBA appearance he is a cameo at best, and easily defeated with a few well-placed punches, hardly receiving any lines.
*** The Riddler's weaker role is justified, though, as the creators of the show later admitted that it was extremely hard writing action-oriented scripts that featured his trademark puzzles; the writers noted they had several Riddler scripts they had to throw out for being too complicated to fit into twenty-two minutes. TheOtherWiki indicates Creator/PaulDini wanted to bring Riddler back for a later series, where the longer format might have worked to the character's advantage, but the plan never worked because the producers of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' wanted to avoid using Batman villains.
** Poison Ivy started out as an insane environmentalist that targeted ANYONE who was (she at least perceived to be) dangerous to the environment, especially plant life. During "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE56HarleyAndIvy Harley and Ivy]]" the writers out of nowhere decided to have her take on a feminist angle, interrupting a men's club that had nothing to do with environmental issues, and the trait seemed to stick from then on. By the time of TNBA her eco-terrorist angle was completely abandoned in favor of her friendship with Harley and other female villains.
** Catwoman began with a compulsive need to steal, but also a heavy environmentalist angle that focused on protecting animals that overrode her thieving compulsions. It did not take long for the latter to become less of a trait and the former to overtake her role completely, and by the end of TAS she's solely a burglar that backstabs her friends and allies in the name of greed.
5th Nov '16 1:27:42 PM redandready45
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** Charlie Collins, a white collar worker who was tormented by the Joker, only to turn the tables on him and make him ''BEG FOR BATMAN''.
22nd Oct '16 3:03:59 PM CumbersomeTercel
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** In "Double Talk" [[spoiler: Scarface]] makes more than a few mentions of his "coming out party".

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** In "Double Talk" "[[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE4DoubleTalk Double Talk]]" [[spoiler: Scarface]] makes more than a few mentions of his "coming out party".



** "Girl's Night Out," the episode of the Franchise/{{DCAU}} featuring Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} and Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} squaring off against Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, and Livewire is commonly thought to be a ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries'' episode, but in reality is officially a ''Batman: The Animated Series'' episode. According to both the episode list on [[http://www.batman-superman.com the official website]] and the fact that it was on the ''B: TAS'' Volume 4 DVD rather than Volume 3 of ''S: TAS'' (which included the last third of the series, including Supergirl's debut).

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** "Girl's "[[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE20GirlsNightOut Girls' Night Out," Out]]", the episode of the Franchise/{{DCAU}} featuring Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} and Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} squaring off against Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, and Livewire is commonly thought to be a ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries'' episode, but in reality is officially a ''Batman: The Animated Series'' episode. According to both the episode list on [[http://www.batman-superman.com the official website]] and the fact that it was on the ''B: TAS'' Volume 4 DVD rather than Volume 3 of ''S: TAS'' (which included the last third of the series, including Supergirl's debut).



** In "The Lion And The Unicorn" Alfred tells Bruce he's in London, in which Bruce asks 'London England?' and Alfred replies 'There is only one', though there is a city of London in Ontario, Canada, and at least 8 Londons in the United States, among others. Though, as Alfred is British, this statement can be taken as him either not knowing about them, or simply regarding London, England as the only TRUE London.
** In ''Perchance to Dream'' Batman figures out he is trapped in a dream when he is unable to read the books or newspapers; he later explains this by saying that the parts of the brain responsible for dreaming and reading are on different hemispheres and that it's impossible to read in a dream. This is a myth- the brain is far more complex than that, and it is entirely possible and completely commonplace for people to read in dreams.

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** In "The "[[Recap/TheAdventuresOfBatmanAndRobinE12TheLionAndTheUnicorn The Lion And The Unicorn" and the Unicorn]]" Alfred tells Bruce he's in London, in which Bruce asks 'London England?' and Alfred replies 'There is only one', though there is a city of London in Ontario, Canada, and at least 8 Londons in the United States, among others. Though, as Alfred is British, this statement can be taken as him either not knowing about them, or simply regarding London, England as the only TRUE London.
** In ''Perchance In "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE30PerchanceToDream Perchance to Dream'' Dream]]" Batman figures out he is trapped in a dream when he is unable to read the books or newspapers; he later explains this by saying that the parts of the brain responsible for dreaming and reading are on different hemispheres and that it's impossible to read in a dream. This is a myth- the brain is far more complex than that, and it is entirely possible and completely commonplace for people to read in dreams.



** "Thriftie", a clothing store worker who only appeared in the episode, "Beware the Creeper", where she watches ''completely stone-faced'' as The Creeper ransacks the store looking for a new superhero outfit, snarking at his comments the whole time.

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** "Thriftie", a clothing store worker who only appeared in the episode, "Beware "[[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE23BewareTheCreeper Beware the Creeper", Creeper]]", where she watches ''completely stone-faced'' as The Creeper ransacks the store looking for a new superhero outfit, snarking at his comments the whole time.



** And then there's Clayface's "daughter" Annie from "Growing Pains". She even made a cameo in the LittleGotham comics!

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** And then there's Clayface's "daughter" Annie from "Growing Pains"."[[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE8GrowingPains Growing Pains]]". She even made a cameo in the LittleGotham comics!



** The fans really hate the episode "Critters", seeing it as overly campy and full of lame puns. However, the producers themselves have a soft spot for it and did a commentary on the DVD to defend it (though Bruce Timm notes up front that he completely understands why it's not everyone's cup of tea).
** "I've Got Batman in My Basement" also gets this treatment for being childish and having a sharp contrast with the tone of other episodes. Bruce Timm himself is not fond of it.

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** The fans really hate the episode "Critters", "[[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE14Critters Critters]]", seeing it as overly campy and full of lame puns. However, the producers themselves have a soft spot for it and did a commentary on the DVD to defend it (though Bruce Timm notes up front that he completely understands why it's not everyone's cup of tea).
** "I've "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE13IveGotBatmanInMyBasement I've Got Batman in My Basement" Basement]]" also gets this treatment for being childish and having a sharp contrast with the tone of other episodes. Bruce Timm himself is not fond of it.



* FoeYay: Harley Quinn and Batman, but strictly one-way. Batman has never shown any interest in her, but in ''Harley's Holiday'' she seemed quite attracted to him. For those who interpret her relationship with the Joker as abusive Dom/sub (as opposed to just plain old abusive) ''Harlequinade'' can give off this vibe as well, with her "misbehaving" throughout the mission so Batman will "punish" her. Notably when he yells at her she responds with "Yes, Sir" the same response she gives the Joker when he yells at her.

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* FoeYay: Harley Quinn and Batman, but strictly one-way. Batman has never shown any interest in her, but in ''Harley's Holiday'' "[[Recap/TheAdventuresOfBatmanAndRobinE16HarleysHoliday Harley's Holiday]]" she seemed quite attracted to him. For those who interpret her relationship with the Joker as abusive Dom/sub (as opposed to just plain old abusive) ''Harlequinade'' "[[Recap/TheAdventuresOfBatmanAndRobinE7Harlequinade Harlequinade]]" can give off this vibe as well, with her "misbehaving" throughout the mission so Batman will "punish" her. Notably when he yells at her she responds with "Yes, Sir" the same response she gives the Joker when he yells at her.



** In "Harlequinade", Harley Quinn tries to kill the Joker with a machine gun, but it turns out to be [[BangFlagGun a toy gun]], with a flag saying "RAT-TAT-TAT" popping out when she pulls the trigger. They reconcile afterwards. In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker'', [[spoiler:the Joker dies by getting shot with a not-so-fake flag gun by the brainwashed Tim Drake.]]
** In "Two-Face, Part 1", Bruce joked that he'll steal Grace if Harvey doesn't marry her soon, and Harvey joked that he'll have Bruce persecuted if he does. Then after Harvey learns that Thorne bailed his men due to a technicality, he reverts to Big Bad Harv and tried to punch Bruce and called him a "rich twit" when he tried to calm him down (likely Big Bad Harv took Bruce's joke seriously). In an issue of ''ComicBook/TheBatmanAdventures'', Harvey was on the verge of being cured when the Joker convinced him that Grace is cheating on him with Bruce. His evil personality takes hold once again and kidnaps Grace. Batman and Robin foil his plan and send him back to Arkham. Grace, meanwhile, realizes that Dent will never be cured, and leaves him.
** "The Laughing Fish" has this line from Harvey Bullock to Harley about the Joker:

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** In "Harlequinade", "[[Recap/TheAdventuresOfBatmanAndRobinE7Harlequinade Harlequinade]]", Harley Quinn tries to kill the Joker with a machine gun, but it turns out to be [[BangFlagGun a toy gun]], with a flag saying "RAT-TAT-TAT" popping out when she pulls the trigger. They reconcile afterwards. In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker'', [[spoiler:the Joker dies by getting shot with a not-so-fake flag gun by the brainwashed Tim Drake.]]
** In "Two-Face, "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE10TwoFacePart1 Two-Face: Part 1", 1]]", Bruce joked that he'll steal Grace if Harvey doesn't marry her soon, and Harvey joked that he'll have Bruce persecuted if he does. Then after Harvey learns that Thorne bailed his men due to a technicality, he reverts to Big Bad Harv and tried to punch Bruce and called him a "rich twit" when he tried to calm him down (likely Big Bad Harv took Bruce's joke seriously). In an issue of ''ComicBook/TheBatmanAdventures'', Harvey was on the verge of being cured when the Joker convinced him that Grace is cheating on him with Bruce. His evil personality takes hold once again and kidnaps Grace. Batman and Robin foil his plan and send him back to Arkham. Grace, meanwhile, realizes that Dent will never be cured, and leaves him.
** "The "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE34TheLaughingFish The Laughing Fish" Fish]]" has this line from Harvey Bullock to Harley about the Joker:



** The interactions of Joker and Penguin inside Penguin's night club, The Iceberg Lounge, in "Joker's Millions" become this in one of the "Arkham Stories" during ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity''.
** In "Make 'Em Laugh" [[spoiler: the Joker uses microchips to alter the minds of innocents to make them criminals]]. Then comes ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker''.
** Another episode worsened by ''Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker'' is "I Am the Night", where Batman angsts over the possibility of his friends and allies being hurt...including Robin (at the time of the episode, Robin is Dick and not Tim, but still).

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** The interactions of Joker and Penguin inside Penguin's night club, The Iceberg Lounge, in "Joker's Millions" "[[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE7JokersMillions Joker's Millions]]" become this in one of the "Arkham Stories" during ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity''.
** In "Make "[[Recap/TheAdventuresOfBatmanAndRobinE18MakeEmLaugh Make 'Em Laugh" Laugh]]" [[spoiler: the Joker uses microchips to alter the minds of innocents to make them criminals]]. Then comes ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker''.
** Another episode worsened by ''Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker'' is "I "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE49IAmTheNight I Am the Night", Night]]", where Batman angsts over the possibility of his friends and allies being hurt...including Robin (at the time of the episode, Robin is Dick and not Tim, but still).



** As well as in "Dreams of Darkness," one of Batman's fear toxin-induced hallucinations is the Joker appearing in the Bat Cave. Come ''Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker'', it becomes all too real.

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** As well as in "Dreams of Darkness," "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE28DreamsInDarkness Dreams in Darkness]]", one of Batman's fear toxin-induced hallucinations is the Joker appearing in the Bat Cave. Come ''Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker'', it becomes all too real.



** In "Paging The Crime Doctor", Rupert Thorne needs heart surgery. His actor, John Vernon, died in 2005 of complications from heart surgery.
** In "The Laughing Fish", The Joker tries to have his Joker Fish copyrighted, and the patent guy tells him he can't copyright food. Twenty years later, Monsanto wants to do ''just that''.
** Meta example from "I Am The Night" - Batman laments the fact he's merchandised to death, on t-shirts and action figures, despite his intent. Not only was the cartoon used to sell a toy line, but not long after Warner began a massive ad campaign to push Batman toys, shirts, and other merchandise onto children.
** ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' does this with [[spoiler:"Over the Edge" as, among other things, the main villain is Scarecrow, someone hallucinates the death of Barbara Gordon as a result of Scarecrow's fear toxin, Commissioner Gordon gets pissed at Batman for Barbara's double life, Bruce Wayne is outed as Batman, and Bruce Wayne is possibly dead. Only, unlike "Over the Edge", where it's AllJustADream (being said hallucination and it being ''Barbara's''), everything outside of Barbara's "death" really happened in the Arkhamverse]].
** Compare Joker's behavior towards Charlie Collins in "Joker's Favor" over a minor incident to how modern day internet trolls often stalk, harass and even threaten their targets, which often results from the troll becoming severely offended over a minor issue.
** In the episode "Deep Freeze", Mr. Freeze is horrified by Grant Walker's desire to be like him, knowing that while he desires only to revive his wife, all Walker cares about is his warped idea for a perfect world. Then came ''ComicBook/{{New 52}}'', a contested reboot of the DC Comics universe where one of many controversial changes made was that they retconned Mr. Freeze's origin so that Nora was never his wife, rendering him just another psychopath with no redeeming qualities. What's worse is that Mr. Freeze's wife Nora originated in the DCAU before she was incorporated into Freeze's backstory in the comics, so the New 52 Mr. Freeze having that aspect of his origin stripped of its humanizing qualities can be seen as a slap to the face of the incarnation that made Mr. Freeze a popular villain in the first place.
** At the the end of "Growing Pains", Batman says to Robin (Tim Drake) that sometimes they are no happy endings. Robin nod sadly and silently. Now take ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker'' into account.
** At the start of "Batgirl Returns", Barbara has a dream when she starts making out with Batman. [[spoiler: The animated version of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheKillingJoke'' has an actual sex scene between the two.]]

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** In "Paging The "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE53PagingTheCrimeDoctor Paging the Crime Doctor", Doctor]]", Rupert Thorne needs heart surgery. His actor, John Vernon, died in 2005 of complications from heart surgery.
** In "The "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE34TheLaughingFish The Laughing Fish", Fish]]", The Joker tries to have his Joker Fish copyrighted, and the patent guy tells him he can't copyright food. Twenty years later, Monsanto wants to do ''just that''.
** Meta example from "I "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE49IAmTheNight I Am The Night" the Night]]" - Batman laments the fact he's merchandised to death, on t-shirts and action figures, despite his intent. Not only was the cartoon used to sell a toy line, but not long after Warner began a massive ad campaign to push Batman toys, shirts, and other merchandise onto children.
** ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' does this with [[spoiler:"Over [[spoiler:"[[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE12OverTheEdge Over the Edge" Edge]]" as, among other things, the main villain is Scarecrow, someone hallucinates the death of Barbara Gordon as a result of Scarecrow's fear toxin, Commissioner Gordon gets pissed at Batman for Barbara's double life, Bruce Wayne is outed as Batman, and Bruce Wayne is possibly dead. Only, unlike "Over the Edge", where it's AllJustADream (being said hallucination and it being ''Barbara's''), everything outside of Barbara's "death" really happened in the Arkhamverse]].
** Compare Joker's behavior towards Charlie Collins in "Joker's Favor" "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE22JokersFavor Joker's Favor]]" over a minor incident to how modern day internet trolls often stalk, harass and even threaten their targets, which often results from the troll becoming severely offended over a minor issue.
** In the episode "Deep Freeze", "[[Recap/TheAdventuresOfBatmanAndRobinE19DeepFreeze Deep Freeze]]", Mr. Freeze is horrified by Grant Walker's desire to be like him, knowing that while he desires only to revive his wife, all Walker cares about is his warped idea for a perfect world. Then came ''ComicBook/{{New 52}}'', a contested reboot of the DC Comics universe where one of many controversial changes made was that they retconned Mr. Freeze's origin so that Nora was never his wife, rendering him just another psychopath with no redeeming qualities. What's worse is that Mr. Freeze's wife Nora originated in the DCAU before she was incorporated into Freeze's backstory in the comics, so the New 52 Mr. Freeze having that aspect of his origin stripped of its humanizing qualities can be seen as a slap to the face of the incarnation that made Mr. Freeze a popular villain in the first place.
** At the the end of "Growing Pains", "[[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE8GrowingPains Growing Pains]]", Batman says to Robin (Tim Drake) that sometimes they are no happy endings. Robin nod sadly and silently. Now take ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker'' into account.
** At the start of "Batgirl Returns", "[[Recap/TheAdventuresOfBatmanAndRobinE20BatgirlReturns Batgirl Returns]]", Barbara has a dream when she starts making out with Batman. [[spoiler: The animated version of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheKillingJoke'' has an actual sex scene between the two.]]



** In "Beware the Creeper," the Joker accuses the Creeper (Creator/JeffBennett) of ripping off his act. Bennett would later voice Joker on ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold''.
** In "Almost Got 'Im", Joker mocks Poison Ivy's use of "exploding pumpkins." A few years, Creator/MarkHamill would be voicing [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries the Hobgoblin]], whose signature weapon is the pumpkin bomb.

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** In "Beware "[[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE23BewareTheCreeper Beware the Creeper," Creeper]]", the Joker accuses the Creeper (Creator/JeffBennett) of ripping off his act. Bennett would later voice Joker on ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold''.
** In "Almost "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE46AlmostGotIm Almost Got 'Im", 'Im]]", Joker mocks Poison Ivy's use of "exploding pumpkins." A few years, Creator/MarkHamill would be voicing [[WesternAnimation/SpiderManTheAnimatedSeries the Hobgoblin]], whose signature weapon is the pumpkin bomb.



** Alfred's "Are we developing an interest in rock and roll, sir?" from "On Leather Wings", after ''WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall'' started the RunningGag of Batman hating rock and roll.

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** Alfred's "Are we developing an interest in rock and roll, sir?" from "On "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE1OnLeatherWings On Leather Wings", Wings]]", after ''WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall'' started the RunningGag of Batman hating rock and roll.



** In the episode "Eternal Youth", Alfred and a friend of his go to a spa secretly run by Poison Ivy, where the people eat green food, and then Ivy turns them into trees, which becomes funny if you imagine that the spa is called [[Film/{{Troll 2}} Nilbog.]]

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** In the episode "Eternal Youth", "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE29EternalYouth Eternal Youth]]", Alfred and a friend of his go to a spa secretly run by Poison Ivy, where the people eat green food, and then Ivy turns them into trees, which becomes funny if you imagine that the spa is called [[Film/{{Troll 2}} Nilbog.]]



** In "Beware the Gray Ghost", Bruce hands the titular character's actor what is presumably a home video re-release of the long-lost ''Gray Ghost'' serial, probably on VHS. Thing is, the design of the box, specifically the blue borders, makes it look exactly like a modern-day Blu-ray case!

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** In "Beware "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE18BewareTheGrayGhost Beware the Gray Ghost", Ghost]]", Bruce hands the titular character's actor what is presumably a home video re-release of the long-lost ''Gray Ghost'' serial, probably on VHS. Thing is, the design of the box, specifically the blue borders, makes it look exactly like a modern-day Blu-ray case!



** In "Dreams in Darkness", Batman thought he saw the Joker's reflection on the Bat-computer. Years later in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'', the Joker really does visit the Batcave.
** In "Harley's Holiday", Veronica Vreeland tells Bruce he needs a woman in his life to keep him up on fashion trends. About ten years later, it would become more common than not for young, wealthy men like Bruce to do that for themselves.

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** In "Dreams "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE28DreamsInDarkness Dreams in Darkness", Darkness]]", Batman thought he saw the Joker's reflection on the Bat-computer. Years later in an episode of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheBraveAndTheBold'', the Joker really does visit the Batcave.
** In "Harley's Holiday", "[[Recap/TheAdventuresOfBatmanAndRobinE16HarleysHoliday Harley's Holiday]]", Veronica Vreeland tells Bruce he needs a woman in his life to keep him up on fashion trends. About ten years later, it would become more common than not for young, wealthy men like Bruce to do that for themselves.



* IdiotPlot: ''Christmas With the Joker.'' How did nobody in Arkham notice the Joker building a rocket out of a Christmas tree?

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* IdiotPlot: ''Christmas With "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE2ChristmasWithTheJoker Christmas with the Joker.'' Joker]]". How did nobody in Arkham notice the Joker building a rocket out of a Christmas tree?



** Lloyd Ventris from "See No Evil", who is a criminal, a scumbag, a thief, and a liar, but whose entire motivation was to see his daughter.

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** Lloyd Ventris from "See "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE17SeeNoEvil See No Evil", Evil]]", who is a criminal, a scumbag, a thief, and a liar, but whose entire motivation was to see his daughter.



** Mr. Freeze went from WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds to this in "Cold Comfort", because of his wife leaving him and [[spoiler:his body having deteriorated entirely except for his head]].

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** Mr. Freeze went from WoobieDestroyerOfWorlds to this in "Cold Comfort", "[[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE3ColdComfort Cold Comfort]]", because of his wife leaving him and [[spoiler:his body having deteriorated entirely except for his head]].



** Arnold Stromwell from ''It's Never Too Late''. He is a mob boss involved in illegal drug manufacturing and was a delinquent since his youth. On the other hand, because of his criminal activies, he's now estranged with his wife and his son. He's also deeply haunted by an incident during his childhood, when his brother lost his leg saving him from a train. The plot of his episode is that his criminal empire is threatened by Rupert Thorne and a conflict finally erupt when Stromwell's son goes missing. However, Thorne isn't the culprit. Stromwell is horrified to discover that his son had been taking drugs manufactured by his organization and had to be hospitalized. [[spoiler:In the end of his episode, Stromwell is convinced by Batman and by his brother to surrender himself to the police.]]

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** Arnold Stromwell from ''It's "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE12ItsNeverTooLate It's Never Too Late''.Late]]". He is a mob boss involved in illegal drug manufacturing and was a delinquent since his youth. On the other hand, because of his criminal activies, he's now estranged with his wife and his son. He's also deeply haunted by an incident during his childhood, when his brother lost his leg saving him from a train. The plot of his episode is that his criminal empire is threatened by Rupert Thorne and a conflict finally erupt when Stromwell's son goes missing. However, Thorne isn't the culprit. Stromwell is horrified to discover that his son had been taking drugs manufactured by his organization and had to be hospitalized. [[spoiler:In the end of his episode, Stromwell is convinced by Batman and by his brother to surrender himself to the police.]]



** Batgirl and Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} in "Girl's Night Out" become very close very... quickly, and in the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' Christmas episode, they are absent 'on a skiing holiday together'.

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** Batgirl and Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} in "Girl's "[[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE20GirlsNightOut Girls' Night Out" Out]]" become very close very... quickly, and in the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' Christmas episode, they are absent 'on a skiing holiday together'.



** Even Harley Quinn gets her moment in "Mad Love". Batman himself even admitted that he was completely at her mercy before The Joker showed up and allowed Batman to escape right under their noses. Shame it never lasted long for her though.
* MemeticMolester: Poison Ivy during The New Batman Adventures episode, "Chemistry." While to fans we know it was an intent to kill Robin with her trade mark kiss. Bare in mind that the current Robin is Tim Drake, who is thirteen. Her tone, wording and aggressive motions such as grabbing him by the shirt doesn't help either.

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** Even Harley Quinn gets her moment in "Mad Love"."[[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE21MadLove Mad Love]]". Batman himself even admitted that he was completely at her mercy before The Joker showed up and allowed Batman to escape right under their noses. Shame it never lasted long for her though.
* MemeticMolester: Poison Ivy during The ''The New Batman Adventures Adventures'' episode, "Chemistry." "[[Recap/TheNewBatmanAdventuresE22Chemistry Chemistry]]". While to fans we know it was an intent to kill Robin with her trade mark kiss. Bare in mind that the current Robin is Tim Drake, who is thirteen. Her tone, wording and aggressive motions such as grabbing him by the shirt doesn't help either.



** Though an excellent version, fans who claim that this series is the "definitive" or "true" version of Batman are misaimed as the original WordOfGod himself, Bob Kane, once stated that a key to Batman's success is that there is no definitive version and that he can be adapted and reinterpreted over time.
** Those who credit Bruce Timm and Paul Dini as the "heads" of the series. It was actually Bruce Timm and Eric Radomski as co-producers starting out, but Radomski was more involved with the art direction than the story writing. ''Alan Burnett'' was in charge of the plotting team, and while later credited as a producer, Paul Dini was mainly a writer at the time. Although subsequent DCAU series were just Timm, Dini and Burnett, so fans can be forgiven mostly for believing that Timm and Dini were the heads of the series.
** There are radical feminist fans on Tumblr praising Poison Ivy for her "fighting the patriarchy" by dismantling a men's club in "Harley and Ivy", ignoring that Poison Ivy is a dangerous extremist that kills and "punishes" men and women indiscriminately, controls Harley nearly as much as Joker does, and that in ''that very episode'' they were essentially just using their status as women to commit whatever crimes they wanted. Highlighted when Renee Montoya takes them down. Oh, and that little fact that ''she is completely insane!''
** Lyle Bolton has some unapologetic fans who believe his aggressive actions in "Lock-Up" were vindicated by the actions of Arkham's prisoners and their poor track record with them, but it blatantly overlooks that he's an emotionally unstable sadist and extremist who is barely any different from the inmates he tortures, and he goes well over the line to enforce the law, even trying to bring in innocent people and actual police like Commissioner Gordon because he sees ''them'' as no different than the criminals he watched over. Batman himself is horrified at Bolton's overzealous extremism, and is openly disgusted that Bolton believed he would side with his actions.

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** Though an excellent version, fans who claim that this series is the "definitive" or "true" version of Batman are misaimed as the original WordOfGod himself, Bob Kane, Creator/BobKane, once stated that a key to Batman's success is that there is no definitive version and that he can be adapted and reinterpreted over time.
** Those who credit Bruce Timm Creator/BruceTimm and Paul Dini Creator/PaulDini as the "heads" of the series. It was actually Bruce Timm and Eric Radomski as co-producers starting out, but Radomski was more involved with the art direction than the story writing. ''Alan Burnett'' was in charge of the plotting team, and while later credited as a producer, Paul Dini was mainly a writer at the time. Although subsequent DCAU series were just Timm, Dini and Burnett, so fans can be forgiven mostly for believing that Timm and Dini were the heads of the series.
** There are radical feminist fans on Tumblr praising Poison Ivy for her "fighting the patriarchy" by dismantling a men's club in "Harley "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE56HarleyAndIvy Harley and Ivy", Ivy]]", ignoring that Poison Ivy is a dangerous extremist that kills and "punishes" men and women indiscriminately, controls Harley nearly as much as Joker does, and that in ''that very episode'' they were essentially just using their status as women to commit whatever crimes they wanted. Highlighted when Renee Montoya takes them down. Oh, and that little fact that ''she is completely insane!''
** Lyle Bolton has some unapologetic fans who believe his aggressive actions in "Lock-Up" "[[Recap/TheAdventuresOfBatmanAndRobinE17LockUp Lock-Up]]" were vindicated by the actions of Arkham's prisoners and their poor track record with them, but it blatantly overlooks that he's an emotionally unstable sadist and extremist who is barely any different from the inmates he tortures, and he goes well over the line to enforce the law, even trying to bring in innocent people and actual police like Commissioner Gordon because he sees ''them'' as no different than the criminals he watched over. Batman himself is horrified at Bolton's overzealous extremism, and is openly disgusted that Bolton believed he would side with his actions.



** Warren Lawford aka Fox from the Terrible Trio crosses the line when he tries to kill his own girlfriend after she knows too much. Even his friends were shocked at his actions.

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** Warren Lawford aka Fox from the "[[Recap/TheAdventuresOfBatmanAndRobinE6TheTerribleTrio The Terrible Trio Trio]]" crosses the line when he tries to kill his own girlfriend after she knows too much. Even his friends were shocked at his actions.



** While ''Heart of Ice'', the Mr. Freeze debut episode, is a very sad and touching episode overall, the sight of Batman defeating Freeze by cracking his glass helmet open with a canteen of chicken soup is unintentionally funny and out of place in an otherwise tragic episode.

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** While ''Heart "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE14HeartOfIce Heart of Ice'', Ice]]", the Mr. Freeze debut episode, is a very sad and touching episode overall, the sight of Batman defeating Freeze by cracking his glass helmet open with a canteen of chicken soup is unintentionally funny and out of place in an otherwise tragic episode.



** Kevin Conroy's attempt at doing a BigNo in "Two-Face Part 1", which isn't helped by how the animation is much more expressive than the voice acting.
** Batman cruising around in full costume in "House & Garden" in ''broad daylight'', and [[http://i.imgur.com/fBqmS.jpg not picking very good hiding places either]].
** "Avatar" has a hilarious moment when Batman is in an ancient Egyptian pyramid and has to destroy a demonic, soul-sucking mummy-queen that Ra's al Ghul has summoned. He orders Talia to flee with a line that's even funnier than it sounds:

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** Kevin Conroy's Creator/KevinConroy's attempt at doing a BigNo in "Two-Face "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE10TwoFacePart1 Two-Face: Part 1", 1]]", which isn't helped by how the animation is much more expressive than the voice acting.
** Batman cruising around in full costume in "House "[[Recap/TheAdventuresOfBatmanAndRobinE5HouseAndGarden House & Garden" Garden]]" in ''broad daylight'', and [[http://i.imgur.com/fBqmS.jpg not picking very good hiding places either]].
** "Avatar" "[[Recap/TheAdventuresOfBatmanAndRobinE4Avatar Avatar]]" has a hilarious moment when Batman is in an ancient Egyptian pyramid and has to destroy a demonic, soul-sucking mummy-queen that Ra's al Ghul has summoned. He orders Talia to flee with a line that's even funnier than it sounds:



** When Bruce's guilt fueled dream in "Two Face: Part II" isn't being tragic, it's this.

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** When Bruce's guilt fueled fuelled dream in "Two Face: "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE11TwoFacePart2 Two-Face: Part II" 2]]" isn't being tragic, it's this.



** "Be a Clown" has a few moments where Batman uncharacteristically attempts to make wisecracks. They do come off as funny, but mainly due to how bizarre and out of place they are rather than being genuinely humorous. You should probably leave the pun-making to your sidekicks, Bruce.

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** "Be "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE9BeAClown Be a Clown" Clown]]" has a few moments where Batman uncharacteristically attempts to make wisecracks. They do come off as funny, but mainly due to how bizarre and out of place they are rather than being genuinely humorous. You should probably leave the pun-making to your sidekicks, Bruce.



* TheScrappy: Internal Affairs Detective Hackle of "P.O.V." is far worse {{Jerkass}} cop than Harvey Bullock. Fortunately at the end of that episode, Commissioner Gordon's call-out on Hackle, when he acts as UngratefulBastard towards Montoya after suspending her along with Bullock and Wilkes for one of them being a DirtyCop, appears to be a TakeThatScrappy towards this jerk.

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* TheScrappy: Internal Affairs Detective Hackle of "P."[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE7POV P.O.V." ]]" is far worse {{Jerkass}} cop than Harvey Bullock. Fortunately at the end of that episode, Commissioner Gordon's call-out on Hackle, when he acts as UngratefulBastard towards Montoya after suspending her along with Bullock and Wilkes for one of them being a DirtyCop, appears to be a TakeThatScrappy towards this jerk.



*** The Riddler's weaker role is justified, though, as the creators of the show later admitted that it was extremely hard writing action-oriented scripts that featured his trademark puzzles; the writers noted they had several Riddler scripts they had to throw out for being too complicated to fit into twenty-two minutes. TheOtherWiki indicates Paul Dini wanted to bring Riddler back for a later series, where the longer format might have worked to the character's advantage, but the plan never worked because the producers of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' wanted to avoid using Batman villains.
** Poison Ivy started out as an insane environmentalist that targeted ANYONE who was (she at least perceived to be) dangerous to the environment, especially plant life. During ''Harley & Ivy'' the writers out of nowhere decided to have her take on a feminist angle, interrupting a men's club that had nothing to do with environmental issues, and the trait seemed to stick from then on. By the time of TNBA her eco-terrorist angle was completely abandoned in favor of her friendship with Harley and other female villains.

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*** The Riddler's weaker role is justified, though, as the creators of the show later admitted that it was extremely hard writing action-oriented scripts that featured his trademark puzzles; the writers noted they had several Riddler scripts they had to throw out for being too complicated to fit into twenty-two minutes. TheOtherWiki indicates Paul Dini Creator/PaulDini wanted to bring Riddler back for a later series, where the longer format might have worked to the character's advantage, but the plan never worked because the producers of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' wanted to avoid using Batman villains.
** Poison Ivy started out as an insane environmentalist that targeted ANYONE who was (she at least perceived to be) dangerous to the environment, especially plant life. During ''Harley & Ivy'' "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE56HarleyAndIvy Harley and Ivy]]" the writers out of nowhere decided to have her take on a feminist angle, interrupting a men's club that had nothing to do with environmental issues, and the trait seemed to stick from then on. By the time of TNBA her eco-terrorist angle was completely abandoned in favor of her friendship with Harley and other female villains.



* VindicatedByHistory: The villainess Red Claw was not liked very much when the show was on the air, which was one of the factors why she never became a CanonImmigrant in the comics. These days, she has become an EnsembleDarkHorse of sorts, partially due to her likable personality and lovely body.
* {{Wangst}}: "I am the Night" has this bad. It starts with Batman sitting in the Batcave wondering if he makes a difference, before going to put roses on the place where his parents were killed, which get messed up and freak Batman out. Then, when Gordon gets shot in a bad sting operation, Batman blames himself, points out that Gordon is the same age as his father when he was shot, mopes around the cave for three days, and goes into TenMinuteRetirement. It takes pep talks from Robin, Alfred, and Gordon to snap him out of it.

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* VindicatedByHistory: The villainess Red Claw was not liked very much when the show was on the air, which was one of the factors why she never became a CanonImmigrant in the comics. These days, she has become an EnsembleDarkHorse of sorts, partially due to her likable likeable personality and lovely body.
* {{Wangst}}: "I am "[[Recap/BatmanTheAnimatedSeriesE49IAmTheNight I Am the Night" Night]]" has this bad. It starts with Batman sitting in the Batcave wondering if he makes a difference, before going to put roses on the place where his parents were killed, which get messed up and freak Batman out. Then, when Gordon gets shot in a bad sting operation, Batman blames himself, points out that Gordon is the same age as his father when he was shot, mopes around the cave for three days, and goes into TenMinuteRetirement. It takes pep talks from Robin, Alfred, and Gordon to snap him out of it.
5th Oct '16 5:01:32 PM urutapu
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** At the end of "Harley's Holiday", Harley's psychiatrist claims she's making real progress and is on the path to recovery. This is never followed up in any future plot.

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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
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TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: At the end of "Harley's Holiday", Harley's psychiatrist claims she's making real progress and is on the path to recovery. This is never followed up in any future plot.
4th Oct '16 5:23:57 PM maxwellsilver
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* SuperlativeDubbing: The French dub have Richard Darbois ( The semi-official voice of Creator/HarrisonFord in France ) as Batman and Pierre Hatet ( Official french voice of Creator/ChristopherLloyd ) as the Joker. The translation is full of Woolseyism and the acting is top notch.

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* SuperlativeDubbing: The French dub have Richard Darbois ( The semi-official voice of Creator/HarrisonFord in France ) as Batman and Pierre Hatet ( Official french (official French voice of Creator/ChristopherLloyd ) as the Joker. The translation is full of Woolseyism and the acting is top notch.notch.
* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot:
** At the end of "Harley's Holiday", Harley's psychiatrist claims she's making real progress and is on the path to recovery. This is never followed up in any future plot.
24th Sep '16 3:24:22 AM Tron80
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** "Girl's Night Out," the episode of the Franchise/{{DCAU}} featuring Batgirl and Supergirl squaring off against Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, and Livewire is commonly thought to be a ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries'' episode, but in reality is officially a ''Batman: The Animated Series'' episode. According to both the episode list on [[http://www.batman-superman.com the official website]] and the fact that it was on the ''B: TAS'' Volume 4 DVD rather than Volume 3 of ''S: TAS'' (which included the last third of the series, including Supergirl's debut).

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** "Girl's Night Out," the episode of the Franchise/{{DCAU}} featuring Batgirl Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} and Supergirl Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} squaring off against Poison Ivy, Harley Quinn, and Livewire is commonly thought to be a ''WesternAnimation/SupermanTheAnimatedSeries'' episode, but in reality is officially a ''Batman: The Animated Series'' episode. According to both the episode list on [[http://www.batman-superman.com the official website]] and the fact that it was on the ''B: TAS'' Volume 4 DVD rather than Volume 3 of ''S: TAS'' (which included the last third of the series, including Supergirl's debut).



** Batgirl and {{Supergirl}} in "Girl's Night Out" become very close very... quickly, and in the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' Christmas episode, they are absent 'on a skiing holiday together'.

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** Batgirl and {{Supergirl}} Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} in "Girl's Night Out" become very close very... quickly, and in the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' Christmas episode, they are absent 'on a skiing holiday together'.
23rd Sep '16 1:03:26 AM rafi
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** Female version: Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy, just like the comics. WordOfGod confirms that the two are in an on-again-off-again relationship whenever the Joker is out of the picture, but the show itself "merely" lays on incredibly thick subtext whenever they're in the same room together.
** Another female version: Batgirl and {{Supergirl}} in "Girl's Night Out" become very close very... quickly, and in the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' Christmas episode, they are absent 'on a skiing holiday together'.


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** Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy, just like the comics. WordOfGod confirms that the two are in an on-again-off-again relationship whenever the Joker is out of the picture, but the show itself "merely" lays on incredibly thick subtext whenever they're in the same room together.
** Batgirl and {{Supergirl}} in "Girl's Night Out" become very close very... quickly, and in the ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeague'' Christmas episode, they are absent 'on a skiing holiday together'.
19th Sep '16 4:52:22 PM TitoMosquito
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*** Also in that same episode, Ivy was barefoot in the flashback. Now it's perfectly normal for [[DoesNotLikeShoes her to be barefoot]].
6th Sep '16 8:23:31 PM MagBas
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** At the start of "Batgirl Returns", Barbara has a dream when she starts making out with Batman. [[spoiler: The animated version of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheKillingJoke'' has an actual sex scene between the two, as part of major CharacterDerailment and {{Chickification}} on Barbara's part.]]

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** At the start of "Batgirl Returns", Barbara has a dream when she starts making out with Batman. [[spoiler: The animated version of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheKillingJoke'' has an actual sex scene between the two, as part of major CharacterDerailment and {{Chickification}} on Barbara's part.two.]]
5th Sep '16 2:31:06 PM HBICece
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** At the start of "Batgirl Returns", Barbara has a dream when she starts making out with Batman. [[spoiler: The animated version of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheKillingJoke'' has an actual sex scene between the two.]]

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** At the start of "Batgirl Returns", Barbara has a dream when she starts making out with Batman. [[spoiler: The animated version of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheKillingJoke'' has an actual sex scene between the two.two, as part of major CharacterDerailment and {{Chickification}} on Barbara's part.]]
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