History YMMV / BatmanBeyondReturnOfTheJoker

18th May '18 3:23:58 AM ACW
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*CompleteMonster: '''JOKER'''. See Monster/DCAnimation.
17th May '18 7:51:46 PM costanton11
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* MagnificentBastard: Joker, again. One of the rare cases where it overlaps with CompleteMonster.
15th May '18 9:38:49 AM miraculous
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15th May '18 9:36:33 AM miraculous
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: The film made it look like [[spoiler: the new Joker was Tim Drake, who had finally succumbed to his madness after the torture and brainwashing inflicted by the Joker long ago, and adopted the Joker persona for himself. This would be believable in the context, it would be much more powerful and tragic than the actual story, and it would give the Joker the last laugh from beyond the grave, which would be in keeping with his presentation in the movie up until that point. It would actually have made a pretty good Batman film. Instead, there's a suspension-of-disbelief straining explanation about a mind-control chip and magical DNA]].
10th May '18 4:42:50 AM Shadao
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** On the other hand, [[spoiler:even before this movie came out, you had a wide share of technology and genetics from both the Batman and Superman shows; even if CADMUS and Justice League were only a twinkle in Bruce Timm's eye. Not to mention the idea of a former Robin turning into the new Joker was done in Creator/FrankMiller Comicbook/TheDarkKnightStrikesAgain, where Dick Grayson of all people tries to kill Bruce and his superheroed allies, which was one of the most criticized plot points in a whole sea of them]].
*** [[spoiler: Magic and aliens exist in the DCAU at the same time, along with Greek Gods and what have you. A body altering microchip is hardly unthinkable in a place where the unthinkable is another day at the office.]]
*** [[spoiler: Batman faced immortals, genetically-engineered werewolves, shapeshifters, and robot uprisings before Superman got his own series. Joker hijacking someone's body isn't out of the question.]]
*** There's also the fact that such a plot could be considered assassination of Tim Drake's character, and would have reduced this film's Joker to an imitator as opposed to the real deal.
18th Mar '18 7:07:40 PM JBC31187
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***[[spoiler: Batman faced immortals, genetically-engineered werewolves, shapeshifters, and robot uprisings before Superman got his own series. Joker hijacking someone's body isn't out of the question.]]
1st Mar '18 1:47:58 PM Domino5555
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** On the other hand, [[spoiler:even before this movie came out, you had a wide share of technology and genetics from both the Batman and Superman shows; even if CADMUS and Justice League were only a twinkle in Bruce Timm's eye. Not to mention the idea of a former Robin turning into the new Joker was done in Creator/FrankMiller Comicbook/TheDarkKnightStrikesAgain, where Dick Grayson of all people tries to kill Bruce and his superheroed allies, which was one of the most criticized plot points in a whole sea of them]].
*** [[spoiler: Magic and aliens exist in the DCAU at the same time, along with Greek Gods and what have you. A body altering microchip is hardly unthinkable in a place where the unthinkable is another day at the office.]]
*** There's also the fact that such a plot could be considered assassination of Tim Drake's character, and would have reduced this film's Joker to an imitator as opposed to the real deal.
12th Feb '18 12:13:01 PM N8han11
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** On the other hand, [[spoiler:even before this movie came out, you had a wide share of technology and genetics from both the Batman and Superman shows; even if CADMUS and Justice League were only a twinkle in Bruce Timm's eye. Not to mention the idea of a former Robin turning into the new Joker was done in Creator/FrankMiller Comicbook/TheDarkKnightStrikesAgain, where Dick Grayson of all people tries to kill Bruce and his superheroed allies, which was one of the most criticized plot points in a whole sea of them]].
*** [[spoiler: Magic and aliens exist in the DCAU at the same time, along with Greek Gods and what have you. A body altering microchip is hardly unthinkable in a place where the unthinkable is another day at the office.]]
*** There's also the fact that such a plot could be considered assassination of Tim Drake's character, and would have reduced this film's Joker to an imitator as opposed to the real deal.
12th Jan '18 12:43:33 PM Zeiss
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** [[spoiler:Harley Quinn, of all people,]] became a mother and eventually even a ''grandmother''? At least in [[ComicBook/InjusticeGodsAmongUs an alternate universe/franchise]] it looks like.
29th Oct '17 4:46:22 AM CrowTR0bot
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** A former BigBad who seemingly died has come back to life through [[spoiler: nanotechnology attached to another character]]. Are we talking about the resurrection of The Joker or [[VideoGame/MetalGearSolid4GunsOfThePatriots Liquid Snake/Ocelot?]]
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