History YMMV / BatmanArkhamSeries

26th May '17 2:08:59 PM Anicomicgeek
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* CommonKnowledge: A lot of fans (and even [[Creator/JBBlanc one voice actor]]) Creator/KevinConroy had retired from the role of Batman after ''City'' with Creator/MarkHamill as the Joker, especially with the part being recast with Creator/RogerCraigSmith in ''Origins''. Eeven putting aside Hamill's FlipFlopOfGoid, there's no place where Conroy said it, not only was this proven wrong [[WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueDoom a couple of months later]], 2013, the same year ''Origins'' was released, also saw the release of ''VideoGame/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'' and ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueTheFlashpointParadox'', which has Conroy as Batman.
19th Apr '17 5:55:42 PM Austin
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* LuckBasedMission: Downplayed. The replayable predator challenges are easily beatable with enough skill, as long as the random guard patterns allow so. The maps usually allow at least one medal to be easily obtainable before the guards are alerted, but once they are, you may end up waiting several minutes to get the other medals.



* {{Retcon}}: Some of the original info from ''Asylum'' character bios has been overwritten later in the series by both WB Montreal and Rocksteady.
1st Apr '17 8:08:45 PM Jacob175
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* BrokenBase: There's a divide between the fans who feel that [[FirstInstallmentWins ''Arkham Asylum'']] is the [[http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/batman/feature/a573764/revisiting-batman-arkham-asylum-the-best-ever-batman-game/ strongest]] [[http://www.gamesradar.com/why-rocksteadys-batman-arkham-asylum-is-still-the-seminal-superhero-game-we-all-deserve/ entry]] in the series due to its tight {{Metroidvania}} [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvbnc-7Y0fE design]] and the lack of open-world filler content, and those who like [[BiggerIsBetter larger open world]] of [[EvenBetterSequel ''Arkham City'']]. This is a downplayed example, however, as both games received highly positive reviews.

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* BrokenBase: There's a divide between the fans who feel that [[FirstInstallmentWins ''Arkham Asylum'']] ''[[FirstInstallmentWins Arkham Asylum]]'' is the [[http://www.digitalspy.com/gaming/batman/feature/a573764/revisiting-batman-arkham-asylum-the-best-ever-batman-game/ strongest]] [[http://www.gamesradar.com/why-rocksteadys-batman-arkham-asylum-is-still-the-seminal-superhero-game-we-all-deserve/ entry]] in the series due to its tight {{Metroidvania}} [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvbnc-7Y0fE design]] and the lack of open-world filler content, and those who like [[BiggerIsBetter larger open world]] of [[EvenBetterSequel ''Arkham City'']].''[[EvenBetterSequel Arkham City]]''. This is a downplayed example, however, as both games received highly positive reviews.



* CounterpartComparison: TheJoker has drawn some comparisons to Handsome Jack in the ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' series. They're both narcissistic villains who [[spoiler: die]] in [[VideoGame/{{Borderlands 2}} the second game]] [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity in the series]], their origins were revealed in [[VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel a prequel released]] [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins after the second game]], and they [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/TalesFromTheBorderlands return in the most recent game in the series]] [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight in a metaphysical form within the hero's head and they try getting said hero to break]]]].

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* CounterpartComparison: TheJoker The Joker has drawn some comparisons to Handsome Jack in the ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' series. They're both narcissistic villains who [[spoiler: die]] in [[VideoGame/{{Borderlands 2}} the second game]] [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity in the series]], their origins were revealed in [[VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel a prequel released]] [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins after the second game]], and they [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/TalesFromTheBorderlands return in the most recent game in the series]] [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight in a metaphysical form within the hero's head and they try getting said hero to break]]]].



** The games are one of the darkest adaptions of both the Batfamily and their rogues gallery, so obviously some (especially fans of a LighterAndSofter or outright Campy Batman) are drawn away from them. Each game has a NightmareFuel folder for a reason, not to mention that the games don't shy away (they actually ''Zoom in'') from Batman breaking limbs instead of just quick takedowns like most movies do.

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** The games are one of the darkest adaptions of both the Batfamily and their rogues gallery, so obviously some (especially fans of a LighterAndSofter or outright Campy Batman) are drawn away from them. Each game has a NightmareFuel folder for a reason, not to mention that the games don't shy away (they actually ''Zoom ''zoom in'') from Batman breaking limbs instead of just quick takedowns like most movies do.



* EvilIsSexy: If you find yourself having the hots for Harley Quinn ([[EvenTheGirlsWantHer even if you're a straight girl]]) in this adaptation, you're not the only one.

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If you find yourself having the hots for Harley Quinn ([[EvenTheGirlsWantHer even if you're a straight girl]]) in this adaptation, you're not the only one.



** While all the games are generally well reviewed and well received, the prominence of the Joker as really the primary bad guy among everyone else has been criticized, as it lead to the detriment of other villains having a chance at truly taking stage. But this has been a wider-franchise problem for Batman on the whole, since TheJoker is so inherently charismatic that he has overshadowed others for a long time in the comics, the cartoons and avoided doing so in Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy only because of Creator/HeathLedger's death. The Arkham games being a tribute to Batman in different media, could not help over-representing the already over-exposed Joker.
** In most Batman media, the FoeYay between Batman-Joker is subtext and only becomes relevant to the plot in stories where Joker is the main threat. In the case of the Arkham games, it worked well in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'' because the game's smaller island facility setting, overall BedlamHouse atmosphere and the main plot (which is the only time Joker is actually involved at the helm) fits that motif better. But in the sequels, the main plot and threat, is Hugo Strange's Protocol 10 (and [[spoiler:Ra's Al Ghul's plans for Gotham]]) and Scarecrow's plans to unleash fear toxin and humilate Batman. In both cases, the Joker's involvement in the plot, and the time devoted to their ''relationship'' becomes a RomanticPlotTumor since every game ends up offering some commentary on their rivalry and mutual obsession. ''Origins'' had a good general plot which advertised the Joker as merely part of Black Mask's general scheme, and comics fans were excited thinking Black Mask [[RedHerring was going to be a more prominent villain than he was]], only to find out that ''Origins'' was in fact about Joker's debut in the criminal underworld and the start of his and Batman's "relationship" while Black Mask gets submitted to a thoroughly humiliating AdaptationDecay [[spoiler:ending with him being killed off brutally in ''Arkham Knight's '' Red Hood DLC, while begging for mercy]].

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** While all the games are generally well reviewed and well received, the prominence of the Joker as really the primary bad guy among everyone else has been criticized, as it lead to the detriment of other villains having a chance at truly taking stage. But this has been a wider-franchise problem for Batman on the whole, since TheJoker the Joker is so inherently charismatic that he has overshadowed others for a long time in the comics, the cartoons and avoided doing so in Film/TheDarkKnightTrilogy only because of Creator/HeathLedger's death. The Arkham games games, being a tribute to Batman in different media, could not help over-representing the already over-exposed Joker.
** In most Batman media, the FoeYay between Batman-Joker is subtext and only becomes relevant to the plot in stories where Joker is the main threat. In the case of the Arkham games, it worked well in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum'' because the game's smaller island facility setting, overall BedlamHouse atmosphere and the main plot (which is the only time Joker is actually involved at the helm) fits that motif better. But in the sequels, the main plot and threat, threat is Hugo Strange's Protocol 10 (and [[spoiler:Ra's Al Ghul's plans for Gotham]]) and Scarecrow's plans to unleash fear toxin and humilate humiliate Batman. In both cases, the Joker's involvement in the plot, and the time devoted to their ''relationship'' becomes a RomanticPlotTumor since every game ends up offering some commentary on their rivalry and mutual obsession. ''Origins'' had a good general plot which advertised the Joker as merely part of Black Mask's general scheme, and comics fans were excited thinking Black Mask [[RedHerring was going to be a more prominent villain than he was]], only to find out that ''Origins'' was in fact about Joker's debut in the criminal underworld and the start of his and Batman's "relationship" while Black Mask gets submitted to a thoroughly humiliating AdaptationDecay [[spoiler:ending with him being killed off brutally in ''Arkham Knight's '' Red Hood DLC, while begging for mercy]].



* ToughActToFollow: The first two entries were widely acclaimed that later entries, while still earning generally positive reception, are considered to be {{ContestedSequel}}s.

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* ToughActToFollow: The first two entries were widely acclaimed that later entries, while still earning generally positive reception, are considered to be {{ContestedSequel}}s.{{Contested Sequel}}s.
23rd Mar '17 10:46:56 AM flyingfishcake
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* ToughActToFollow: The first two entries were widely acclaimed that later entries, while still earning generally positive reception, are considered to be ContestedSequel{s}.

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* ToughActToFollow: The first two entries were widely acclaimed that later entries, while still earning generally positive reception, are considered to be ContestedSequel{s}.{{ContestedSequel}}s.
23rd Mar '17 10:46:09 AM flyingfishcake
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* ToughActToFollow: The first two entries were widely acclaimed that later entries, while still earning generally positive reception, are considered to be ContestedSequel{{s}}.

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* ToughActToFollow: The first two entries were widely acclaimed that later entries, while still earning generally positive reception, are considered to be ContestedSequel{{s}}.ContestedSequel{s}.
23rd Mar '17 10:45:43 AM flyingfishcake
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* ToughActToFollow: The first two entries were widely acclaimed that later entries, while still earning generally positive reception, are considered to be ContestedSequel{{s}}.
21st Mar '17 10:14:31 AM JulianLapostat
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* GenreTurningPoint: For licensed games in general. Before ''Arkham Asylum'', it was common for studios to invest money in AAA license titles that were often movie tie-ins. The VideoGame/BatmanBegins video game is a famous example as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_(video_game) is an aborted ''The Dark Knight'' game]], and the many VideoGame/HarryPotter games which adapted the movies rather than serve, as the Arkham games, as an adaptation of the license tailored to the video game medium. While some movie tie-ins do exist such as VideoGame/TheAmazingSpiderMan, they are more or less relegated to mobile games, and indeed the upcoming VideoGame/SpidermanPS4 is following Arkham's approach in adapting the license to the game rather than make a movie tie-in. Most famously, where Franchise/TheLordOfTheRings had movie tie-in hack-and-slash licensed games, for Film/TheHobbit, Monolith Studios made a game-centric adaptation of the licensed property, leading to the critically acclaimed VideoGame/MiddleEarthShadowOfMordor, and the developers cited Rocksteady as their inspiration.

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* GenreTurningPoint: For licensed games in general. Before ''Arkham Asylum'', it was common for studios to invest money in AAA license titles that were often movie tie-ins. The VideoGame/BatmanBegins ''VideoGame/BatmanBegins'' video game is a famous example as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_(video_game) is an aborted aborted]] ''The Dark Knight'' game]], game, and the many VideoGame/HarryPotter ''VideoGame/HarryPotter'' games which adapted the movies rather than serve, as the Arkham games, as an adaptation of the license tailored to the video game medium. While some movie tie-ins do exist such as VideoGame/TheAmazingSpiderMan, ''VideoGame/TheAmazingSpiderMan'', they are more or less relegated to mobile games, and indeed the upcoming VideoGame/SpidermanPS4 ''VideoGame/SpidermanPS4'' is following Arkham's approach in adapting the license to the game rather than make a movie tie-in. Most famously, where Franchise/TheLordOfTheRings ''Franchise/TheLordOfTheRings'' had movie tie-in hack-and-slash licensed games, for Film/TheHobbit, ''Film/TheHobbit'', Monolith Studios made a game-centric adaptation of the licensed property, leading to the critically acclaimed VideoGame/MiddleEarthShadowOfMordor, and the developers ''VideoGame/MiddleEarthShadowOfMordor''. Monolith explicitly cited Rocksteady as their inspiration.inspiration noting that it raised the bar for adapting licensed properties by insisting that it work first and foremost by providing entertaining gameplay.
17th Feb '17 11:34:34 AM TheFlash
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* GenreTurningPoint: For licensed games in genera. Before ''Arkham Asylum'', it was common for studios to invest money in AAA license titles that were often movie-tie ins. The VideoGame/BatmanBegins video game is a famous example as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_(video_game) is an aborted ''The Dark Knight'' game]] and the many VideoGame/HarryPotter games which adapted the movies rather than serve, as the Arkham games, as an adaptation of the license tailored to the video game medium. While some movie-tie ins do exist, such as VideoGame/TheAmazingSpiderMan, they are more or less relegated to mobile games and indeed the upcoming VideoGame/SpidermanPS4 is following Arkham's approach in adapting the license to the game rather than make a movie tie-in. Most famously, where Franchise/TheLordOfTheRings had movie tie-in hack-and-slash licensed games, for Film/TheHobbit, Monolith studios made a game-centric adaptation of the licensed property leading to the critically acclaimed VideoGame/MiddleEarthShadowOfMordor, and the developers cited Rocksteady as their inspiration.

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* GenreTurningPoint: For licensed games in genera. general. Before ''Arkham Asylum'', it was common for studios to invest money in AAA license titles that were often movie-tie ins.movie tie-ins. The VideoGame/BatmanBegins video game is a famous example as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_(video_game) is an aborted ''The Dark Knight'' game]] game]], and the many VideoGame/HarryPotter games which adapted the movies rather than serve, as the Arkham games, as an adaptation of the license tailored to the video game medium. While some movie-tie ins movie tie-ins do exist, exist such as VideoGame/TheAmazingSpiderMan, they are more or less relegated to mobile games games, and indeed the upcoming VideoGame/SpidermanPS4 is following Arkham's approach in adapting the license to the game rather than make a movie tie-in. Most famously, where Franchise/TheLordOfTheRings had movie tie-in hack-and-slash licensed games, for Film/TheHobbit, Monolith studios Studios made a game-centric adaptation of the licensed property property, leading to the critically acclaimed VideoGame/MiddleEarthShadowOfMordor, and the developers cited Rocksteady as their inspiration.
16th Feb '17 8:43:49 PM JulianLapostat
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* GenreTurningPoint: For licensed games in genera. Before ''Arkham Asylum'', it was common for studios to invest money in AAA license titles that were often movie-tie ins. The VideoGame/BatmanBegins video game is a famous example as [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_(video_game) is an aborted ''The Dark Knight'' game]] and the many VideoGame/HarryPotter games which adapted the movies rather than serve, as the Arkham games, as an adaptation of the license tailored to the video game medium. While some movie-tie ins do exist, such as VideoGame/TheAmazingSpiderMan, they are more or less relegated to mobile games and indeed the upcoming VideoGame/SpidermanPS4 is following Arkham's approach in adapting the license to the game rather than make a movie tie-in. Most famously, where Franchise/TheLordOfTheRings had movie tie-in hack-and-slash licensed games, for Film/TheHobbit, Monolith studios made a game-centric adaptation of the licensed property leading to the critically acclaimed VideoGame/MiddleEarthShadowOfMordor, and the developers cited Rocksteady as their inspiration.
7th Feb '17 10:45:32 PM Hello9876
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** [[http://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/most-critically-acclaimed-superhero-videogame/ Arkham City even held the Guinness World Record for Most Critically Acclaimed Superhero Game Ever in 2011 based on an average Metacritic score of 95.94.]], [[although it did not win as many Game of the Year Awards as VideoGames/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim or VideoGames/{{Portal2}}]]. Perhaps fittingly, the game it ended up dethroning was its own predecessor, ''Arkham Asylum''.
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