History YMMV / BatmanArkhamSeries

23rd May '16 6:49:45 PM Anddrix
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* HarsherInHindsight: How shall we put it? SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker himself has been a DeathSeeker from the very beginning of the series. [[spoiler:In ''Arkham Origins'', he tries to shoot himself in the head in order [[DrivenToSuicide to end it all]], but [[SaveTheVillain Batman stops him from doing so]] for reasons he can't comprehend. In ''Arkham Asylum'', after the Joker says, "I have nothing left to live for," he ''does'' shoot himself, but with a Titan formula gun to the throat. His "suicide" is very painfully slow, as it takes a year for the Titan poisoning to course through his bloodstream before his death and its nature complete their course at the end of ''Arkham City'', in fulfillment of his deserving to die as a monster, all the while Batman is unable to intervene with him.]]

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* HarsherInHindsight: How shall we put it? SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker himself has been a DeathSeeker from the very beginning of the series. [[spoiler:In ''Arkham Origins'', he tries to shoot himself in the head in order [[DrivenToSuicide to end it all]], but [[SaveTheVillain Batman stops him from doing so]] for reasons he can't comprehend. In ''Arkham Asylum'', after the Joker says, "I have nothing left to live for," he ''does'' shoot himself, but with a Titan formula gun to the throat. His "suicide" is very painfully slow, as it takes a year for the Titan poisoning to course through his bloodstream before his death and its nature complete their course at the end of ''Arkham City'', in fulfillment of his deserving to die as a monster, all the while Batman is unable to intervene with him.]]
22nd Feb '16 8:00:20 AM ACW
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15th Feb '16 10:50:30 AM BenMitchell90
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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: It's made perfectly clear that this game series was not aimed at children, but that didn't stop kids from purchasing it. The series is full of brutal death, intense violence, psychological horror, sexual content, corruption, and of course Batman and his villains acting more nightmarish than ever before, all packaged along with extremely dark themes and storylines that can be chilling from their concepts alone. There's a very good argument to be made that they are '''the''' darkest ''Batman'' adaptations ever made. Unfortunately, there were still some families that thought it was okay to buy for kids simply because it had Batman. Needless to say, people were shocked.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotForKids: It's made perfectly clear that this game series was not aimed at children, with ''[[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight Arkham Knight]]'' even getting slapped with an [[MatureRating M rating]], but that didn't stop kids from purchasing it. The series is full of brutal death, intense violence, psychological horror, sexual content, corruption, and of course Batman and his villains acting more nightmarish than ever before, all packaged along with extremely dark themes and storylines that can be chilling from their concepts alone. There's a very good argument to be made that they are '''the''' darkest ''Batman'' adaptations ever made. Unfortunately, there were still some families that thought it was okay to buy for kids simply because it had Batman. Needless to say, people were shocked.
1st Feb '16 9:58:10 AM KhlavKalash
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** The series and its poor track record with making good boss fights is another example. The original game was criticized for reusing the same bullfight setup with Bane or opting for thug attack waves instead of direct battles for most of its encounters with any other boss fights being deemed lackluster or boring (with the possible exception of the penultimate battle with Poison Ivy). While City was praised for having the famous Mr. Freeze showdown and more original boss fights, overall it remained a criticism due to the presence of several (Albeit mostly justified) AntiClimaxBoss segments. Interestingly enough, ''Origins'', a secondary game made by a different studio, was widely praised in its handling of boss battles, making it appear to be an inversion at first. However, ''Knight'' notably lacked several proper boss fights with Deathstroke being a notable target of hate while many combat encounters with thugs and Batmobile tank battles filled their place. This in particular has gotten enough backlash to the point of heavily contributing to the game's ContestedSequel status as a result.

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** The series and its poor track record with making good boss fights is another example. The original game was criticized for reusing the same bullfight setup with Bane or opting for thug attack waves instead of direct battles for most of its encounters with any other boss fights being deemed lackluster or boring (with the possible exception of the penultimate battle with Poison Ivy). While City was praised for having the famous Mr. Freeze showdown and more original boss fights, overall it remained a criticism due to the presence of several (Albeit (albeit mostly justified) AntiClimaxBoss segments. Interestingly enough, ''Origins'', a secondary game made by a different studio, was widely praised in its handling of boss battles, making it appear to be an inversion at first. However, ''Knight'' notably lacked several proper boss fights with Deathstroke being a notable target of hate while many combat encounters with thugs and Batmobile tank battles filled their place. This in particular has gotten enough backlash to the point of heavily contributing to the game's ContestedSequel status as a result.
27th Jan '16 11:26:25 PM mlsmithca
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* MagnumOpus: ''Batman: Arkham City'' is generally considered to be the best game in the series.
16th Jan '16 6:31:03 PM Animeking1108
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* CounterpartComparison: TheJoker has drawn some comparisons to Handsome Jack in the ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' series. They're both narcissistic villains who [[spoiler: die]] in [[VideoGame/Borderlands2 the second game]] [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity in the series]], their origins were revealed in [[VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel a prequel released]] [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins after the second game]], and they [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/TalesFromTheBorderlands return in the most recent game in the series in a metaphysical form within the hero's head and they try getting said hero to break]]]].

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* CounterpartComparison: TheJoker has drawn some comparisons to Handsome Jack in the ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' series. They're both narcissistic villains who [[spoiler: die]] in [[VideoGame/Borderlands2 [[VideoGame/{{Borderlands 2}} the second game]] [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity in the series]], their origins were revealed in [[VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel a prequel released]] [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins after the second game]], and they [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/TalesFromTheBorderlands return in the most recent game in the series in a metaphysical form within the hero's head and they try getting said hero to break]]]].
16th Jan '16 6:29:43 PM Animeking1108
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* CounterpartComparison: TheJoker has drawn some comparisons to Handsome Jack in the ''VideoGame/{{Borderlands}}'' series. They're both narcissistic villains who [[spoiler: die]] in [[VideoGame/Borderlands2 the second game]] [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity in the series]], their origins were revealed in [[VideoGame/BorderlandsThePreSequel a prequel released]] [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins after the second game]], and they [[spoiler: [[VideoGame/TalesFromTheBorderlands return in the most recent game in the series in a metaphysical form within the hero's head and they try getting said hero to break]]]].
8th Jan '16 7:58:02 AM ACW
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** ComicBook/TheJoker, serves as the OverarchingVillain of the series. The ArchEnemy of Batman, Joker regularly commits crimes solely to torture his nemesis throughout the series. When first [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins establishing himself in Gotham]], Joker hijacked Black Mask's organization, and used his influence to torture and murder innocents, along with bombing multiple buildings across the city. In [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum one notable instance]], Joker staged a breakout at Arkham Asylum, ensuring the slaughter of as many people as possible. Left dying of a TITAN overdose in the wake of this incident, Joker [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity forces Batman to find a cure for his condition]] by poisoning more than two thousand people with his infected blood; he also executes Batman's LoveInterest, Talia Al Ghul, right in front of him. [[BadBoss Caring nothing for his subordinates]], The Joker regularly abuses his "girlfriend," Harley Quinn, and tortures and murders his henchmen, along with threatening their family members, for fun. Even after his death, [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight flashbacks further show his wicked deeds]], such as crippling Barbara Gordon and [[ColdBloodedTorture physically]] and [[MindRape psychologically]] torturing [[spoiler: Jason Todd]] for months, then sending Batman videotapes of said torture; this torture resulted in [[spoiler:Jason]] becoming the Arkham Knight. Tie-in material only adds to his list of crimes, with [[WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham trying to blow up Gotham City]] and rigging fireworks with Joker toxin that kills hundreds (the latter seen in the digital comic, ''Arkham City: End Game'') being just a few of his extra depravities. A narcissistic {{sadist}} with a [[AttentionWhore pathological need for attention]], the Joker is determined to make Gotham forever remember him by [[CardCarryingVillain writing his name in the city with blood]].

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** ComicBook/TheJoker, ComicBook/TheJoker serves as the OverarchingVillain of the series. The ArchEnemy of Batman, Joker regularly commits crimes solely to torture his nemesis throughout the series. When first [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins establishing himself in Gotham]], Joker hijacked Black Mask's organization, and used his influence to torture and murder innocents, along with bombing multiple buildings across the city. In [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum one notable instance]], Joker staged a breakout at Arkham Asylum, ensuring the slaughter of as many people as possible. Left dying of a TITAN overdose in the wake of this incident, Joker [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity forces Batman to find a cure for his condition]] by poisoning more than two thousand people with his infected blood; he also executes Batman's LoveInterest, Talia Al Ghul, right in front of him. [[BadBoss Caring nothing for his subordinates]], The Joker regularly abuses his "girlfriend," Harley Quinn, and tortures and murders his henchmen, along with threatening their family members, for fun. Even after his death, [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight flashbacks further show his wicked deeds]], such as crippling Barbara Gordon and [[ColdBloodedTorture physically]] and [[MindRape psychologically]] torturing [[spoiler: Jason Todd]] for months, then sending Batman videotapes of said torture; this torture resulted in [[spoiler:Jason]] becoming the Arkham Knight. Tie-in material only adds to his list of crimes, with [[WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham trying to blow up Gotham City]] and rigging fireworks with Joker toxin that kills hundreds (the latter seen in the digital comic, ''Arkham City: End Game'') being just a few of his extra depravities. A narcissistic {{sadist}} with a [[AttentionWhore pathological need for attention]], the Joker is determined to make Gotham forever remember him by [[CardCarryingVillain writing his name in the city with blood]].
8th Jan '16 1:58:23 AM ACW
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** ComicBook/TheJoker serves as the OverarchingVillain of the series. The ArchEnemy of Batman, Joker regularly commits crimes solely to torture his nemesis throughout the series, from executing his LoveInterest, Talia Al Ghul, right in front of him, to crippling Barbara Gordon and torturing [[spoiler: Jason Todd]], who would later become the Arkham Knight, for months into insanity, then sending Batman videotapes of said torture. When first [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins establishing himself in Gotham]], Joker hijacked Black Mask's organization, and used his influence to torture and murder innocents, along with bombing multiple buildings across the city. In [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum one notable instance]], Joker staged a breakout at Arkham Asylum, ensuring the slaughter of as many people as possible. Left dying of a TITAN overdose in the wake of this incident, Joker [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity forces Batman to find a cure for his condition]] by poisoning more than two thousand people with his infected blood. [[BadBoss Caring nothing for his subordinates]], The Joker regularly abuses his "girlfriend," Harley Quinn, and tortures and murders his henchmen, along with threatening their family members, for fun. Tie-in material only adds to his list of crimes, with [[WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham trying to blow up Gotham City]] and rigging fireworks with Joker toxin that kills hundreds (the latter seen in the digital comic, ''Arkham City: End Game'') being just a few of his extra depravities. A narcissistic {{sadist}} with a [[AttentionWhore pathological need for attention]], the Joker is determined to make Gotham forever remember him by [[CardCarryingVillain writing his name in the city with blood]].

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** ComicBook/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker, serves as the OverarchingVillain of the series. The ArchEnemy of Batman, Joker regularly commits crimes solely to torture his nemesis throughout the series, from executing his LoveInterest, Talia Al Ghul, right in front of him, to crippling Barbara Gordon and torturing [[spoiler: Jason Todd]], who would later become the Arkham Knight, for months into insanity, then sending Batman videotapes of said torture.series. When first [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins establishing himself in Gotham]], Joker hijacked Black Mask's organization, and used his influence to torture and murder innocents, along with bombing multiple buildings across the city. In [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum one notable instance]], Joker staged a breakout at Arkham Asylum, ensuring the slaughter of as many people as possible. Left dying of a TITAN overdose in the wake of this incident, Joker [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity forces Batman to find a cure for his condition]] by poisoning more than two thousand people with his infected blood.blood; he also executes Batman's LoveInterest, Talia Al Ghul, right in front of him. [[BadBoss Caring nothing for his subordinates]], The Joker regularly abuses his "girlfriend," Harley Quinn, and tortures and murders his henchmen, along with threatening their family members, for fun. Even after his death, [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight flashbacks further show his wicked deeds]], such as crippling Barbara Gordon and [[ColdBloodedTorture physically]] and [[MindRape psychologically]] torturing [[spoiler: Jason Todd]] for months, then sending Batman videotapes of said torture; this torture resulted in [[spoiler:Jason]] becoming the Arkham Knight. Tie-in material only adds to his list of crimes, with [[WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham trying to blow up Gotham City]] and rigging fireworks with Joker toxin that kills hundreds (the latter seen in the digital comic, ''Arkham City: End Game'') being just a few of his extra depravities. A narcissistic {{sadist}} with a [[AttentionWhore pathological need for attention]], the Joker is determined to make Gotham forever remember him by [[CardCarryingVillain writing his name in the city with blood]].
7th Jan '16 12:28:56 PM Ravok
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** ComicBook/TheJoker serves as the OverarchingVillain of the series. When he [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins first established himself in Gotham]], he hijacked Black Mask's organization, tortured and murdered innocents and Black Mask's loyal henchmen in a depraved makeshift funhouse, and tried to bomb multiple occupied buildings. Targeting Batman as his [[ArchEnemy nemesis]], he plagued the Caped Crusader for years. In [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum one notable instance]], he took over Arkham Asylum and staged a breakout which lead to the mass slaughter of personnel. His end goal was to use his creation, TITAN, to create an army of monsters to unleash upon Gotham. [[BodyHorror Left dying]] of a TITAN overdose in the wake of this incident, Joker [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity forces Batman to find a cure for his condition]] by poisoning as many as two thousand people with his infected blood, and eventually goes on to murder Batman's LoveInterest, Talia al Ghul, right in front of him. Even after his death, flashbacks in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' further show his depravity, such as his crippling of Barbara Gordon and his horrifying psychical and psychological torture of [[spoiler:Jason Todd]] for over a year in an abandoned wing of Arkham. He ended up breaking [[spoiler:Jason]] so completely, that when he asked him to reveal Batman's identity, [[spoiler: Jason]] began to answer only for Joker to seemingly shoot him dead then send the videotape of events to Batman; while he survived, he was so broken that he became the Arkham Knight. Caring only for himself, the Joker [[BastardBoyfriend abuses his girlfriend]], Harley Quinn, and acts as one of the [[BadBoss worst bosses]] in the series by experimenting on his henchmen, threatening to kill their loved ones, and murdering them for fun. Tie-in material adds to his list of crimes. In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham'', he tries to use a dirty bomb on Gotham City. In the digital comic, ''Arkham City: End Game'', besides trying to foment chaos and [[TakingYouWithMe kill Batman]], we see in flashbacks that on a July 4th he cut the power to Gotham and rigged fireworks with Joker Toxin, killing hundreds. A narcissistic {{sadist}} with a [[AttentionWhore pathological need for attention]], the Joker is determined to make Gotham forever remember him by [[CardCarryingVillain writing his name in the city with blood]].

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** ComicBook/TheJoker serves as the OverarchingVillain of the series. The ArchEnemy of Batman, Joker regularly commits crimes solely to torture his nemesis throughout the series, from executing his LoveInterest, Talia Al Ghul, right in front of him, to crippling Barbara Gordon and torturing [[spoiler: Jason Todd]], who would later become the Arkham Knight, for months into insanity, then sending Batman videotapes of said torture. When he first [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamOrigins first established establishing himself in Gotham]], he Joker hijacked Black Mask's organization, tortured and murdered innocents used his influence to torture and Black Mask's loyal henchmen in a depraved makeshift funhouse, and tried to bomb murder innocents, along with bombing multiple occupied buildings. Targeting Batman as his [[ArchEnemy nemesis]], he plagued buildings across the Caped Crusader for years. city. In [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamAsylum one notable instance]], he took over Arkham Asylum and Joker staged a breakout which lead to at Arkham Asylum, ensuring the mass slaughter of personnel. His end goal was to use his creation, TITAN, to create an army of monsters to unleash upon Gotham. [[BodyHorror as many people as possible. Left dying]] dying of a TITAN overdose in the wake of this incident, Joker [[VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity forces Batman to find a cure for his condition]] by poisoning as many as more than two thousand people with his infected blood, and eventually goes on to murder Batman's LoveInterest, Talia al Ghul, right in front of him. Even after his death, flashbacks in ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'' further show his depravity, such as his crippling of Barbara Gordon and his horrifying psychical and psychological torture of [[spoiler:Jason Todd]] for over a year in an abandoned wing of Arkham. He ended up breaking [[spoiler:Jason]] so completely, that when he asked him to reveal Batman's identity, [[spoiler: Jason]] began to answer only for Joker to seemingly shoot him dead then send the videotape of events to Batman; while he survived, he was so broken that he became the Arkham Knight. blood. [[BadBoss Caring only nothing for himself, the his subordinates]], The Joker [[BastardBoyfriend regularly abuses his girlfriend]], "girlfriend," Harley Quinn, and acts as one of the [[BadBoss worst bosses]] in the series by experimenting on tortures and murders his henchmen, along with threatening to kill their loved ones, and murdering them family members, for fun. Tie-in material only adds to his list of crimes. In ''WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham'', he tries crimes, with [[WesternAnimation/BatmanAssaultOnArkham trying to use a dirty bomb on blow up Gotham City. In City]] and rigging fireworks with Joker toxin that kills hundreds (the latter seen in the digital comic, ''Arkham City: End Game'', besides trying to foment chaos and [[TakingYouWithMe kill Batman]], we see in flashbacks that on Game'') being just a July 4th he cut the power to Gotham and rigged fireworks with Joker Toxin, killing hundreds.few of his extra depravities. A narcissistic {{sadist}} with a [[AttentionWhore pathological need for attention]], the Joker is determined to make Gotham forever remember him by [[CardCarryingVillain writing his name in the city with blood]].
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