History YMMV / Batman

11th Mar '17 1:10:30 PM Quanyails
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*** Supported in spirit by the non-canon ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns, in which Harvey has his face restored to full normal- and proceeds to go completely evil; scratching both sides of his coins as if he has been "consumed by his dark side." At least both sides match.

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*** Supported in spirit by the non-canon ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns, ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'', in which Harvey has his face restored to full normal- and proceeds to go completely evil; scratching both sides of his coins as if he has been "consumed by his dark side." At least both sides match.
6th Mar '17 12:24:06 AM C2
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* MyRealDaddy: Starting right at the beginning, Creator/BillFinger actually did far more to create Batman himself than his more famous boss, Bob Kane. It was Finger, the writer, who came up with the idea of Batman being a detective, of him wearing a black cape and cowl instead of a red cape and Domino Mask, the Bruce Wayne secret identity, his origin story, Robin, Catwoman, Two-Face, the Joker and the name "Gotham City". Without such contributions, "the Bat-Man" most likely would be long forgotten by now, yet Kane is still usually given sole credit for the character, because he undermined Finger's contribution for his entire life, as well as contractually ensuring ''only'' he could be credited for creating Batman.

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* MyRealDaddy: Starting right at the beginning, Creator/BillFinger actually did far more to create Batman himself than his more famous boss, Bob Kane. It was Finger, the writer, who came up with the idea of Batman being a detective, of him wearing a black cape and cowl instead of a red cape and Domino Mask, the Bruce Wayne secret identity, his origin story, Robin, Catwoman, Two-Face, the Joker and the name "Gotham City". Without such contributions, "the Bat-Man" most likely would be long forgotten by now, yet Kane is still usually was given sole credit for the character, character until late 2015 because he undermined Finger's contribution for his entire life, as well as contractually ensuring ''only'' he could be credited for creating Batman.
2nd Mar '17 5:15:57 PM mlsmithca
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** Even Batman isn't inescapable of this status. Some people are sick to death of team-up stories where he's the BadassNormal who's the only one who can take down major villains while equally competent heroes he works with are taken out with little difficulty. It doesn't help under the hands of some writers he becomes a massive jerk, often acting like a gigantic dick to both friends and family alike but constantly portrayed as being in the right, and common reactions to stories like these are fans either cheering since well, it's [[SoCoolItsAwesome Batman]], or groaning and outright begging to have him get taken down a peg afterwards. This has even made some fans prefer members of his supporting cast both for being more likable, or at least less moody, and more fallible than him.

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** Even Batman isn't inescapable of this status. Some people are sick to death of team-up stories where he's the BadassNormal who's the only one who can take down major villains while equally competent heroes he works with are taken out with little difficulty. It doesn't help under the hands of some writers he becomes a massive jerk, often acting like a gigantic dick to both friends and family alike but constantly portrayed as being in the right, and common reactions to stories like these are fans either cheering since well, it's [[SoCoolItsAwesome Batman]], Batman, or groaning and outright begging to have him get taken down a peg afterwards. This has even made some fans prefer members of his supporting cast both for being more likable, or at least less moody, and more fallible than him.



* [[MarthDebutedInSmashBros Batman's Gliding Debuted in the Nolanverse]]: Many people attribute Batman's ability to glide with his cape to Film/TheDarkKnightSaga when it's actually been around since the ''forties''.


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* MarthDebutedInSmashBros: Many people attribute Batman's ability to glide with his cape to Film/TheDarkKnightSaga when it's actually been around since the ''forties''.
18th Feb '17 3:42:19 PM DrPsyche
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** The characterization of Harley Quinn in the New 52 is very divisive.

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** The characterization of Harley Quinn in the New 52 is very divisive.divisive, especially because of her tendency to fall under DependingOnTheWriter. Harley giving explosive presents to children and killing them vs. the very clear attempt at AdaptationalHeroism that her series fell under are the major extremes of her portrayals. The former's detractors feeling it was so darkly out of character it should be FanonDiscontinuity while detractors of the latter feel that it's DracoInLeatherPants given canonicity. The more heroic portrayal is being applied more consistently as the series continues and fans are divided between it being a good way to make the character more sympathetic and likable or a bad direction that wasted a good villain.
10th Feb '17 8:31:37 PM AnotherGuy
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** 28 years later, [[Film/TheLegoBatmanMovie Billy Dee Williams finally gets to be Two-Face]].
10th Feb '17 8:48:03 AM MrDeath
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** The chief crooked cop is named Eckhart. Then 20 years later, in ''Film/TheDarkKnight'', the man playing Harvey Dent -- whose backstory involves investigating crooked cops -- is Aaron ''Eckhart''.
26th Jan '17 9:50:29 AM Wyldchyld
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--> "Batman is obviously much cooler, but that’s because he’s a very energetic and adolescent fantasy character: a handsome billionaire playboy in black leather with a [[BattleButler butler]] at his beck and call, [[CoolCar better cars]] and [[UtilityBelt gadgetry]] than Film/JamesBond, a horde of [[FetishFuelStationAttendant fetish]] [[FemmeFatale femme fatales]] baying around his heels and no boss. That guy's Superman day and night. Superman [[FarmBoy grew up baling hay on a farm.]] He goes to work, for a boss, in an office. He pines after a [[IntrepidReporter hard–working gal.]] Only when he tears off his shirt does that heroic, ideal inner self come to life. That's actually a much more adult fantasy than the one Batman’s peddling but it also makes Superman a little harder to sell. He's much more of a working class superhero, which is why we ended [[ComicBook/AllStarSuperman the whole book]] with the image of a laboring Superman."

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--> "Batman is obviously much cooler, but that’s because he’s a very energetic and adolescent fantasy character: a handsome billionaire playboy in black leather with a [[BattleButler butler]] at his beck and call, [[CoolCar better cars]] and [[UtilityBelt gadgetry]] than Film/JamesBond, a horde of [[FetishFuelStationAttendant fetish]] fetish [[FemmeFatale femme fatales]] baying around his heels and no boss. That guy's Superman day and night. Superman [[FarmBoy grew up baling hay on a farm.]] He goes to work, for a boss, in an office. He pines after a [[IntrepidReporter hard–working gal.]] Only when he tears off his shirt does that heroic, ideal inner self come to life. That's actually a much more adult fantasy than the one Batman’s peddling but it also makes Superman a little harder to sell. He's much more of a working class superhero, which is why we ended [[ComicBook/AllStarSuperman the whole book]] with the image of a laboring Superman."
16th Jan '17 4:53:29 PM N8han11
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** That said, some fans ''do'' still perceive this first film in particular to be [[FirstInstallmentWins THE definitive Batman film]].
*** Also when people look at the best live action portrayal of Batman it's Keaton as Batman that people look at pretty fondly.



*** It's even more glaring that Batman would fall for the ''exact same trick'' by the Joker straight afterwards. And all Joker does is grab his foot.



** Actually, what Lawrence and other goons are wearing are silver brooches in the shape of playing cards, to go with the "Joker" theme. However, they're never seen very clearly, especially on years of VHS and TV screenings and a not particularly good-looking DVD transfer (until the two-disc set released around the time of ''Film/BatmanBegins''). The result is that the silvery coloring of the brooch looks white, and, when combined with the black shirts they wear, it gives them an unintentionally priestly appearance.



*** One moment has Batman turning to face The Joker - the 180 whiparound as to not damage the cowl made it look ''cool''.
5th Jan '17 9:02:02 PM Rubber_Lotus
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** Native American characters are also given the customary amount of respect (i.e. none) the few times they show up (Egghead's debut ep is perhaps the most notorious - Creator/TheHub actually banned it in reruns). That said, Eartha Kitt's Catwoman - the only major nonwhite villain - got fairly respectful treatment.
5th Jan '17 10:13:17 AM Pren
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** The Batplane locks perfectly onto the Joker, yet none of the bullets touch him as he stands completely still. The film makes no attempt to explain why this happened.
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