History YMMV / Batman

18th Jul '17 1:56:34 AM LondonKdS
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** One of the core issues, which underlies many of the more specific questions below, is the entire nature of his motivation. His parents were killed by a criminal, but is he more interested in getting vengeance on law-breakers, or in protecting the innocent to make sure they don't suffer the same way?
13th Jul '17 8:27:23 PM Manny20444
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* CantUnhearIt: Many fans who grew up with ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' as their first exposure to Batman, consider Creator/KevinConroy's Batman voice to be '''the''' voice of the character, and hear just about any dialogue from Batman in Conroy's voice.

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* CantUnhearIt: Many fans Fans, particularly the ones who grew up with ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' as their first exposure to Batman, consider Creator/KevinConroy's interpretation of Batman voice to be '''the''' voice of the character, and hear just about any dialogue from Batman in Conroy's voice.
13th Jul '17 2:39:20 AM NightShade96
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** He actually is still this; fans either love him or wish there was a second phone-in vote to kill him off again. This isn't helped by his very inconsistent portrayals; some writers portray him as a very angry young man with a good reason to be furious at Bruce and who desperately wants to prove that he's a better hero than him, but has a seriously skewed moral compass and sense of what heroism actually is, while others portray him as a one-dimensional modern-day NinetiesAntiHero with a side dose of {{Wangst}}. This has gotten worse ever since the New52 began and the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot but finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything]].

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** He actually is still this; fans either love him or wish there was a second phone-in vote to kill him off again. This isn't helped by his very inconsistent portrayals; some writers portray him as a very angry young man with a good reason to be furious at Bruce and who desperately wants to prove that he's a better hero than him, but has a seriously skewed moral compass and sense of what heroism actually is, while others portray him as a one-dimensional modern-day NinetiesAntiHero with a side dose of {{Wangst}}. This has gotten worse ever since the New52 ComicBook/New52 began and the comics started portraying him in a more consistently sympathetic light with a closer (though still a bit strained) relationship with the Batfamily: Some like the idea of Jason getting some positive character development and healing from his trauma, others think that the new direction does nothing but make him a KarmaHoudini and a canon example of DracoInLeatherPants and a third group likes the concept [[TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot but finds the execution rushed and forced more than anything]].
12th Jul '17 8:59:40 PM PepperoniTropes
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** In "Cacophony" Onomatopoeia disguises himself as a rookie superhero. The disguise works so well that he manages to get Batman to invite him to the Batcave and is only caught when makes a distinctive sound effect, at which point turns around to see him ''[[NightmareFuel jabbing a three-inch bowie knife into a woman's neck]]''.

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** In "Cacophony" "The Widening Gyre" Onomatopoeia disguises himself as a rookie superhero. The disguise works so well that he manages to get Batman to invite him to the Batcave and is only caught when makes a distinctive sound effect, at which point turns around to see him ''[[NightmareFuel jabbing a three-inch bowie knife into a woman's neck]]''.
11th Jul '17 11:32:20 PM LtFedora
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** At one point, the Joker refers to Batman as "Jr. Birdman". 25 years later, Michael Keaton would [[Film/BirdMan play an actor who's most famous role was a superhero named Birdman]].

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** At one point, the Joker refers to Batman as "Jr. Birdman". 25 years later, Michael Keaton would [[Film/BirdMan play an actor who's whose most famous role was a superhero named Birdman]].
3rd Jul '17 8:34:32 AM ImperialMajestyXO
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* AwardSnub: Anton Furst during his acceptance speech chided the Academy for not nominating Creator/JackNicholson's role as The Joker. Became HilariousInHindsight 19 years later, when Creator/HeathLedger won a posthumous one for the same role in ''Film/TheDarkKnight''.

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* AwardSnub: Anton Furst during his acceptance speech chided the Academy [[UsefulNotes/AcademyAward Academy]] for not nominating Creator/JackNicholson's role as The Joker. Became HilariousInHindsight 19 years later, when Creator/HeathLedger won a posthumous one for the same role in ''Film/TheDarkKnight''.
25th Jun '17 1:43:29 PM SunriseWarrior
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** Campiness. It wasn't quite as bad here due to the seriously-taken plot and the characters, but it was still a film with where the Joker pulled off comedic heists, the Batwing had giant scissors and the final fight is still between two guys dressed as a giant bat and a clown.

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** Campiness. It wasn't quite as bad here due to the seriously-taken plot and the characters, but it was still a film with where the Joker pulled off comedic heists, the Batwing had giant scissors scissors, and the final fight is still between two guys dressed as a giant bat and a clown.
17th Jun '17 6:12:06 PM Caswin
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* HarsherInHindsight: Now that Adam West has passed, the world reacting to Batman and Robin seemingly dying for real in "The Mad Hatter Runs Afoul".
16th Jun '17 8:25:27 AM Saveelich
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** The 60s TV interpretation of Batman still lingers on as some people's view of the character, despite several adaptations and major character changes since. This has continued to the extent that Warner Bros. Consumer Products has approached Adam West and 20th Century Fox (producers of the TV show) in 2012 about producing merchandise based on the TV shows. (Also, greeting cards from Hallmark tend to follow the Adam West design, which most closely resembled the traditional comic book design.) The Jim Holmes incident may further encourage this revival of the West version. It should be noted that the TV series was a distillation of the very silliest of The Comics Code/Silver Age era Batman comics, roughly late '50s to mid '60s. In fact some say that the later (1970s-80s) portrayals of Batman were a backlash against the show. In Amazing Heroes#119 in 1987 (two years before the Michael Keaton film), Max Allan Collins had an interview. He said the following:

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** The 60s TV interpretation of Batman still lingers on as some people's view of the character, despite several adaptations and major character changes since. This has continued to the extent that Warner Bros. Consumer Products has approached Adam West and 20th Century Fox (producers of the TV show) in 2012 about producing merchandise based on the TV shows. (Also, shows (also, greeting cards from Hallmark tend to follow the Adam West design, which most closely resembled the traditional comic book design.) The Jim Holmes incident may further encourage this design), and an animated revival of the was eventually made, ''WesternAnimation/BatmanReturnOfTheCapedCrusaders'', with Adam West version.reprising the role. It should be noted that the TV series was a distillation of the very silliest of The Comics Code/Silver Age era Batman comics, roughly late '50s to mid '60s. In fact some say that the later (1970s-80s) portrayals of Batman were a backlash against the show. In Amazing Heroes#119 in 1987 (two years before the Michael Keaton film), Max Allan Collins had an interview. He said the following:
11th Jun '17 11:42:17 AM Silverblade2
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* [[TookTheBadFilmSeriously Took the Goofy Show Seriously]]: A truly fascinating example; while other guest villains such as Art Carney and Milton Berle have been criticized for coming on [[WereStillRelevantDammit just because the show was "hip" and giving rather uninspired, insufficiently tongue-in-cheek performances]], Tallulah Bankhead -- a lady who definitely knew the meaning of camp -- went the opposite direction and played everything deadly straight as the Black Widow. As a result, she's the most genuinely threatening villain in show's history.

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* [[TookTheBadFilmSeriously Took the Goofy Show Seriously]]: TookTheBadFilmSeriously: A truly fascinating example; while other guest villains such as Art Carney and Milton Berle have been criticized for coming on [[WereStillRelevantDammit just because the show was "hip" and giving rather uninspired, insufficiently tongue-in-cheek performances]], Tallulah Bankhead -- a lady who definitely knew the meaning of camp -- went the opposite direction and played everything deadly straight as the Black Widow. As a result, she's the most genuinely threatening villain in show's history.
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