History YMMV / Batista

13th May '17 6:14:41 AM BDA1978
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*** For an explanation....a troll on the Kayfabe Commentaries site constantly sends in this question to ask whomever the guest is. The host, Sean Oliver, almost apologetically asks this question, and the response ranges from bemused to enraged to usually just confused why someone would want to know this so badly.
13th May '17 6:09:55 AM BDA1978
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* BadassDecay: After they made him talk more and started scripting his promos. He didn't really regain any of his previous badass status until he became Douchetista, and even then he spent like three months jobbing to Cena before his initial retirement.

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* BadassDecay: After they made him talk more and started scripting his promos. He didn't really regain any of his previous badass status until he became Douchetista, and even then he spent like three months jobbing to Cena before his initial retirement. Indeed his last appearance in 2010 had him whining and ranting about how mistreated he was and he ended up rage quitting.
9th Feb '17 9:20:26 AM NervousShark
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* XPacHeat: He's gotten this ''really'' '''really''' bad since his return in January 2014. The main problem is that the fans nor the man himself really buy his status as a {{Face}} (especially with his [[{{Heel}} kind of dickish behavior upon his return]]), yet [[ExecutiveMeddling WWE keeps stubbornly pushing him as one]], likely due to capitalize on his appearance in ''Guardians of the Galaxy''. He's been stuck in a boring feud with Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio that hasn't gone anywhere, fans think he is getting an unfair push to [=WrestleMania=] over crowd favorite [[Wrestling/BryanDanielson Daniel Bryan]] (who's been screwed so many times even Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin would raise an eyebrow), it's blatantly obvious that he is not even ''close'' to being in ring shape (just watch his "spear" on Roman Reigns in the Royal Rumble), and now [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking fans are calling him "Bootista."]] It's to the point that the WWE had to go through with a FaceHeelTurn less than a week after Elimination Chamber & alter their plans for [=WrestleMania=] by adding the stipulation that if Daniel Bryan defeats Triple H earlier in the night, he will be added to the match for the WWE World Heavyweight title. Suffice it to say, so far the Batista returns experiment has been [[{{Understatement}} a…disappointment]]. This actually gets acknowledged in-kayfabe during the buildup to Wrestlemania 30 when Randy Orton points out to Batista that his inability to get over with the fans led to them [[RealLifeWritesThePlot essentially rioting and pushing for Bryan to get inserted into the title match.]]

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* XPacHeat: He's gotten this ''really'' '''really''' bad since his return in January 2014. The main problem is that the fans nor the man himself really buy his status as a {{Face}} (especially with his [[{{Heel}} kind of dickish behavior upon his return]]), yet [[ExecutiveMeddling WWE keeps stubbornly pushing him as one]], likely due to capitalize on his appearance in ''Guardians of the Galaxy''. He's been stuck in a boring feud with Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio that hasn't gone anywhere, fans think he is getting an unfair push to [=WrestleMania=] over crowd favorite [[Wrestling/BryanDanielson Daniel Bryan]] (who's been screwed so many times even Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin would raise an eyebrow), it's blatantly obvious that he is not even ''close'' to being in ring shape (just watch his "spear" on Roman Reigns in the Royal Rumble), and now [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking fans are calling him "Bootista."]] It's to the point that the WWE had to go through with a FaceHeelTurn less than a week after Elimination Chamber & alter their plans for [=WrestleMania=] by adding the stipulation that if Daniel Bryan defeats Triple H earlier in the night, he will be added to the match for the WWE World Heavyweight title. Suffice it to say, so far the Batista returns experiment has been [[{{Understatement}} a…disappointment]].a… disappointment. This actually gets acknowledged in-kayfabe during the buildup to Wrestlemania 30 when Randy Orton points out to Batista that his inability to get over with the fans led to them [[RealLifeWritesThePlot essentially rioting and pushing for Bryan to get inserted into the title match.]]
1st Jan '17 5:51:12 PM Peridonyx
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* UnintentionallyUnsympathetic: {{Kayfabe}}[=-=]wise, in his 2008 feud with Shawn Michaels. We were supposed to want Dave to avenge Ric Flair's WWE-career-ending defeat back at ''[=WrestleMania=] XXIV''. You know, the same storyline that had consisted of (1) Ric being the one wanting HBK to go all out, (2) HBK being conflicted and reluctant throughout the whole thing, and (3) there being nothing but bittersweet respect between them afterward. In contrast, Dave ignored all of that, deriding HBK for his (supposed) ego in not just taking a dive, and complaining that he (Dave) wouldn't get to tour with his idol anymore. Therefore, Dave came across more as a {{Wangst}}y DesignatedHero with InsaneTrollLogic than a sympathetic figurative example of YouKilledMyFather. And it certainly didn't help that he, upon winning this feud, mockingly invoked IronicEcho of HBK's own ApologeticAttacker words to Flair when beating him -- thus indirectly disrespecting Flair far more than (Dave believed) HBK ever had.
7th Dec '16 5:01:50 AM SomeoneElse17
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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: While he was only a Scrappy to a small portion of the audience, specifically the [[{{Smark}} smarks]], Batista became a major favorite among that minority after his heel turn. [[DracoInLeatherPants Douchetista: The Bes-tista.]] This even started to happen again after his return in 2014. At first? People hated him for the reasons you can see under XPacHeat below. But as time went on, the man was at least willing to turn Heel (when playing Face was too bad of a cognitive dissonance), tap out to Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania, and helped put over the Shield at back-to-back PPVs. During this time, the ring rust started to come off too, and he got ''really'' good at the [[FanNickname Douchetista]] schtick along the way. When he left to promote Guardians of the Galaxy, a lot of the same people who hated him at first wished he wasn't going.

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* RescuedFromTheScrappyHeap: While he was only a Scrappy to a small portion of the audience, specifically the [[{{Smark}} smarks]], Batista became a major favorite among that minority after his heel turn. [[DracoInLeatherPants Douchetista: The Bes-tista.]] This even started to happen again after his return in 2014. At first? People hated him for the reasons you can see under XPacHeat below. But as time went on, the man was at least willing to turn Heel (when playing Face was too bad of a cognitive dissonance), tap out to Daniel Bryan at Wrestlemania, and helped put over the Shield at back-to-back PPVs. During this time, the ring rust started to come off too, and he got ''really'' good at the [[FanNickname Douchetista]] schtick along the way. When he left to promote Guardians ''Guardians of the Galaxy, Galaxy'', a lot of the same people who hated him at first wished he wasn't going.



** An initial reluctance to turn him heel, likely because of the cross-promotion with ''Guardians of The Galaxy,'' despite Batista being a natural heel in the past with his "Douche-tista" gimmick, which would play naturally into a "egotistical movie star" return that's been done brilliantly in the past by Wade Barrett and the Miz (and which Miz is currently doing.) This one was later fixed, turning him heel and aligning him with Triple H and Randy Orton as an Evolution reunion.
** The other was his push directly into the title picture so fast, winning the ''Royal Rumble'' during his first match and getting a fast track directly into the title match at ''Wrestlemania XXX'' over Daniel Bryan, who had been Triple H's favorite [[KickTheDog dog to kick]] for months and whose push at the time was generally coming across as a "keep knocking him down so his victory is all the sweeter" type of story that would logically culminate at the biggest show of the year. In comes Batista, and Bryan's fans (which was pretty much everybody at that point) led a revolt Batista just couldn't overcome.
** Much of the plot wastage was also due to the fact that the way they built hype for his return ultimately ended up undermining the entire thing. His return was heavily announced in January and he had already debuted on Raw prior to the Royal Rumble PPV, meaning the excitement his sudden return would have gotten if he was a shocking surprise entrant in the Rumble was completely killed. Instead, any interest in him had been sucked out because the way they'd announced his return made it so obvious he was going to win and go to Wrestlemania. Everyone knew Batista was going to win the Rumble. Everyone knew it. They telegraphed it from the moment his return was advertised. Spoilers were all over the internet. In fact, his Royal Rumble win was so transparently obvious and so widely known ahead of time that people started believing that it was a decoy and the WWE were going to pull a fake out on it. Batista probably would have been much better received if they'd tried to keep all word of his return as quiet as possible ahead of the Royal Rumble.

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** An initial reluctance to turn him heel, likely because of the cross-promotion with ''Guardians of The the Galaxy,'' despite Batista being a natural heel in the past with his "Douche-tista" gimmick, which would play naturally into a "egotistical movie star" return that's been done brilliantly in the past by Wade Barrett and the Miz (and which Miz is currently doing.) by the Miz. This one was later fixed, turning him heel and aligning him with Triple H and Randy Orton as an Evolution reunion.
** The other was his push directly into the title picture so fast, winning the ''Royal Rumble'' during his first match and getting a fast track directly into the title match at ''Wrestlemania XXX'' over Daniel Bryan, who had been Triple H's favorite [[KickTheDog dog to kick]] for months and whose push at the time was generally coming across as a "keep knocking him down so his victory is all the sweeter" type of story that would logically culminate at the biggest show of the year. In comes Batista, and Bryan's fans (which was pretty much everybody at that point) led a revolt Batista just couldn't overcome.
overcome even if he'd wanted to.
** Much of the plot wastage was also due to the fact that the way they built hype for his return ultimately ended up undermining the entire thing. His return was heavily announced in January and he had already debuted on Raw prior to the Royal Rumble PPV, meaning the excitement his sudden return would have gotten if he was a shocking surprise entrant in the Rumble was completely killed. Instead, any interest in him had been sucked out because the way they'd announced his return made it so obvious he was going to win and go to Wrestlemania.[=WrestleMania=]. Everyone knew Batista was going to win the Rumble. Everyone knew it. They telegraphed it from the moment his return was advertised. Spoilers were all over the internet. In fact, his Royal Rumble win was so transparently obvious and so widely known ahead of time that people started believing that it was a decoy and the WWE were going to pull a fake out on it. Batista probably would have been much better received if they'd tried to keep all word of his return as quiet as possible ahead of the Royal Rumble.



* XPacHeat: He's gotten this ''really'' '''really''' bad since his return in January 2014. The main problem is that the fans don't buy his status as a {{Face}} (especially with his [[{{Heel}} kind of dickish behavior upon his return]]), yet [[ExecutiveMeddling WWE keeps stubbornly pushing him as one]], likely due to capitalize on his appearance in ''Guardians of the Galaxy''. He's been stuck in a boring feud with Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio that hasn't gone anywhere, fans think he is getting an unfair push to [=WrestleMania=] over crowd favorite [[Wrestling/BryanDanielson Daniel Bryan]] (who's been screwed so many times even Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin would raise an eyebrow), it's blatantly obvious that he is not even ''close'' to being in ring shape (just watch his "spear" on Roman Reigns in the Royal Rumble), and now [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking fans are calling him "Bootista."]] It's to the point that the WWE had to go through with a FaceHeelTurn less than a week after Elimination Chamber & alter their plans for [=WrestleMania=] by adding the stipulation that if Daniel Bryan defeats Triple H earlier in the night, he will be added to the match for the WWE World Heavyweight title. Suffice it to say, so far the Batista returns experiment has been [[{{Understatement}} a…disappointment]]. This actually gets acknowledged in-kayfabe during the buildup to Wrestlemania 30 when Randy Orton points out to Batista that his inability to get over with the fans led to them [[RealLifeWritesThePlot essentially rioting and pushing for Bryan to get inserted into the title match.]]

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* XPacHeat: He's gotten this ''really'' '''really''' bad since his return in January 2014. The main problem is that the fans don't nor the man himself really buy his status as a {{Face}} (especially with his [[{{Heel}} kind of dickish behavior upon his return]]), yet [[ExecutiveMeddling WWE keeps stubbornly pushing him as one]], likely due to capitalize on his appearance in ''Guardians of the Galaxy''. He's been stuck in a boring feud with Wrestling/AlbertoDelRio that hasn't gone anywhere, fans think he is getting an unfair push to [=WrestleMania=] over crowd favorite [[Wrestling/BryanDanielson Daniel Bryan]] (who's been screwed so many times even Wrestling/StoneColdSteveAustin would raise an eyebrow), it's blatantly obvious that he is not even ''close'' to being in ring shape (just watch his "spear" on Roman Reigns in the Royal Rumble), and now [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking fans are calling him "Bootista."]] It's to the point that the WWE had to go through with a FaceHeelTurn less than a week after Elimination Chamber & alter their plans for [=WrestleMania=] by adding the stipulation that if Daniel Bryan defeats Triple H earlier in the night, he will be added to the match for the WWE World Heavyweight title. Suffice it to say, so far the Batista returns experiment has been [[{{Understatement}} a…disappointment]]. This actually gets acknowledged in-kayfabe during the buildup to Wrestlemania 30 when Randy Orton points out to Batista that his inability to get over with the fans led to them [[RealLifeWritesThePlot essentially rioting and pushing for Bryan to get inserted into the title match.]]
7th Dec '16 4:58:39 AM SomeoneElse17
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* HilariousInHindsight: Dave wanted to come back for Summer Slam 2014 - a few months after he departed that year - to do some cross promotional work for ''Guardians''. According to Batista, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon actually laughed at the idea, saying "We don't even know if that movie will be any good." ''Guardians of the Galaxy'' would go on not only to significant critical acclaim, but would gross more money than every single WWE Studios film ''combined''.

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* HilariousInHindsight: Dave wanted to come back for Summer Slam 2014 - a few months after he departed that year - to do some cross promotional work for ''Guardians''. According to Batista, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon [=McMahon=] actually laughed at the idea, saying "We don't even know if that movie will be any good." ''Guardians of the Galaxy'' would go on not only to significant critical acclaim, but would gross more money than every single WWE Studios film ''combined''.
26th Aug '16 5:58:33 AM Killztwice
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* HilariousInHindsight: Dave wanted to come back for Summer Slam 2014 - a few months after he departed that year - to do some cross promotional work for ''Guardians''. According to Batista, Triple H and Stephanie McMahon actually laughed at the idea, saying "We don't even know if that movie will be any good." ''Guardians of the Galaxy'' would go on not only to significant critical acclaim, but would gross more money than every single WWE Studios film ''combined''.
3rd Aug '16 6:29:59 AM SutairuMasuta
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** How big is Batista's dick?
9th Jul '16 4:21:41 PM Anddrix
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1st Jun '16 11:20:06 AM dsneybuf
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* HilariousInHindsight: Batista's [[http://www.wwe.com/superstars/batista timeline of "Milestones"]] at the WWE website ends with a since-disproven one-liner designating ''Film/TheScorpionKing 3'' as the last anyone heard of him.
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