History YMMV / BaldursGate

14th Jan '18 6:25:26 PM Ithilgore
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** The (presumably) Bhaalspawn Paladin that Sarevok kills in the original opening cinematic in the first game. It's his voice and those ridiculously long horns on his helmet, making you wonder why it didn't get stuck in the door opening.

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** The (presumably) Bhaalspawn Paladin that Sarevok kills in the original opening cinematic in the first game. It's his voice and those ridiculously long horns on his helmet, making you wonder why it didn't get stuck in the door opening. He also has a hilariously goofy looking death face before Sarevok tosses his body off the tower, with his mouth and eyes wide open.
*** In addition, there's the fact that Sarevok felt the need to kill him ''then'' throw him from the huge tower, as though the fall wouldn't already have killed him.
24th Dec '17 5:37:03 PM Hawaii_Knut
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** Branwen's [[http://baldursgate.wikia.com/wiki/File:BRANW39.ogg death cry]]. She sound more startled, as if you walked up on her.
11th Dec '17 1:28:39 PM mogryo
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** It's also a good example of a subjective trope; players will naturally feel worse for characters who were a core part of their [=BG1=] party only to be unceremoniously killed in the second, though not everyone will have taken the same characters.
6th Dec '17 11:59:14 AM Hawaii_Knut
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** It's not immediately obvious, but ''Baldur's Gate'' masterfully deconstructs typical character clichés: Imoen is a fairly realistic take on how a TagAlongKid would fare in such a fantasy world (she would get herself in ''huge'' danger and almost killed), Aerie deconstructs the image of the WhiteMagicianGirl, who doesn't get nearly as much help and compassion as she would in other stories, Anomen and Keldorn deconstruct the archetype of the KnightInShiningArmor by showing that life doesn't just consist of slaying Dragons and strictly following a BadassCreed and can occasionally be arrogant and judgmental, and Valygar, instead of getting accepted as the brooding, mysterious ByronicHero, gets MistakenForGay and has to deal with his DarkAndTroubledPast anyways. Jan, instead of being flat ComicRelief, turns out to be SmarterThanYouLook and only capable of having survived so long because of how smart he is, Viconia shows that neither of the two parts of the JerkassWoobie trope are more important than the other (and thus functionally deconstructs DracoInLeatherPants and RonTheDeathEater as a whole), Edwin proves that an eccentric and CowardlySidekick is ''not'' going to be successful in life, and Korgan, seemingly being an {{Expy}} of a HackAndSlash protagonist, demonstrates that there isn't a place for AxCrazy people in society, no matter how CrazyAwesome they are. Further, Cernd debunks the idea of a [[TheSmartGuy Smart Guy]] who speaks entirely in parables, with some people confused by his misplaced metaphors and some treating him like a moron, Nalia fares about as well as you might expect as a [[WeHelpTheHelpless Left-Wing Democrat]] in a country which has been an arch-feudalistic aristocracy throughout history, Yoshimo makes light of the dashing GentlemanThief role by demonstrating [[spoiler:you can't really rely on him in a pinch]] and being less sure on his feet than he likes to suggest, Eldoth deconstructs the LovableRogue trope by being a GoldDigger, a raging sexist and intolerably cruel towards his girlfriend, Skie demonstrates how a RebelliousPrincess without formal combat training would not fare well on the road and her lack of world experience leaves her open to exploitation and Garrick demonstrates that being [[NiceGuy well-meaning and a good person]] doesn't make the ladies want you, and as a dashing bard he's [[SpoonyBard more than a little lacking]]. Shar-Teel deconstructs the FeministFantasy type of character by showing her to be just as evil as what she rails against. About the only one who plays any classic tropes straight is Minsc, but then again, as Dynaheir says, "Minsc is... well, [[TooDumbToFool Minsc]]."

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** It's not immediately obvious, but ''Baldur's Gate'' masterfully deconstructs typical character clichés: Imoen is a fairly realistic take on how a TagAlongKid would fare in such a fantasy world (she would get herself in ''huge'' danger and almost killed), Aerie deconstructs the image of the WhiteMagicianGirl, who doesn't get nearly as much help and compassion as she would in other stories, Anomen and Keldorn deconstruct the archetype of the KnightInShiningArmor by showing that life doesn't just consist of slaying Dragons and strictly following a BadassCreed and can occasionally be arrogant and judgmental, and Valygar, instead of getting accepted as the brooding, mysterious ByronicHero, gets MistakenForGay and has to deal with his DarkAndTroubledPast anyways. Jan, instead of being flat ComicRelief, turns out to be SmarterThanYouLook and only capable of having survived so long because of how smart he is, Viconia shows that neither of the two parts of the JerkassWoobie trope are more important than the other (and thus functionally deconstructs DracoInLeatherPants and RonTheDeathEater as a whole), Edwin proves that an eccentric and CowardlySidekick is ''not'' going to be successful in life, and Korgan, seemingly being an {{Expy}} of a HackAndSlash protagonist, demonstrates that there isn't a place for AxCrazy people in society, no matter how CrazyAwesome they are. Further, Cernd debunks the idea of a [[TheSmartGuy Smart Guy]] who speaks entirely in parables, with some people confused by his misplaced metaphors and some treating him like a moron, Nalia fares about as well as you might expect as a [[WeHelpTheHelpless Left-Wing Democrat]] in a country which has been an arch-feudalistic aristocracy throughout history, Yoshimo makes light of the dashing GentlemanThief role by demonstrating [[spoiler:you can't really rely on him in a pinch]] and being less sure on his feet than he likes to suggest, Eldoth deconstructs the LovableRogue trope by being a GoldDigger, a raging sexist and intolerably cruel towards his girlfriend, Skie demonstrates how a RebelliousPrincess without formal combat training would not fare well on the road and her lack of world experience leaves her open to exploitation and Garrick demonstrates that being [[NiceGuy well-meaning and a good person]] doesn't make the ladies want you, and as a dashing bard he's [[SpoonyBard more than a little lacking]]. Shar-Teel deconstructs the FeministFantasy type of character by showing her to be just as evil as what she rails against.against, and [[StoneWall Kagain]] should be glad that he's a legitimately good tank, otherwise people wouldn't have tolerated his greed and he'd be out of job. About the only one who plays any classic tropes straight is Minsc, but then again, as Dynaheir says, "Minsc is... well, [[TooDumbToFool Minsc]]."
23rd Nov '17 11:34:05 AM Hawaii_Knut
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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Quite a few fans tend to have very poor opinions of anybody who is not very outstanding gameplay-wise or roleplay-wise, such as [[HenpeckedHusband Khalid]], [[SpoonyBard Garrick]], [[FragileFlower Aerie]] or [[UpperClassTwit Nalia]]. [[MisaimedFandom These fans tend to forget]] that there's a character with that exact mindset in the game ([[TheSocialDarwinist Korgan]]), and he's ChaoticEvil.

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* WhatMeasureIsANonBadass: Quite a few fans tend to have very poor opinions of anybody who is not very outstanding gameplay-wise or roleplay-wise, such as [[HenpeckedHusband Khalid]], [[SpoonyBard Garrick]], [[FragileFlower Aerie]] Garrick]] or [[UpperClassTwit Nalia]]. [[MisaimedFandom These fans tend to forget]] that there's a character with that exact mindset in the game ([[TheSocialDarwinist Korgan]]), and he's ChaoticEvil.
21st Aug '17 1:23:41 AM GliderPro
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* VideoGameCrueltyPotential: At the climax of Dorn's quest in ''Shadows of Amn'', you have to sacrifice a 'sapient being' in a summoning circle in order to summon a demon. The way the player is supposed to do this is to sacrifice a summoned monster, or to resurrect an NPC who died in the middle of the circle and then sacrifice him. However, there's nothing to stop the player from taking Dorn's advice and sacrificing a ''party member''. Most of them die cursing the player's name or threatening revenge, but a few--most notably Aerie, Nalia, and Neera--die screaming in agony and begging to know what they did to deserve this. And special mention goes to Minsc, who dies trying to get Boo away from the circle so the hamster doesn't die as well.
20th Aug '17 3:58:21 AM GliderPro
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* VideoGameCrueltyPotential: At the climax of Dorn's quest in ''Shadows of Amn'', you have to sacrifice a 'sapient being' in a summoning circle in order to summon a demon. The way the player is supposed to do this is to sacrifice a summoned monster, or to resurrect an NPC who died in the middle of the circle and then sacrifice him. However, there's nothing to stop the player from taking Dorn's advice and sacrificing a ''party member''. Most of them die cursing the player's name or threatening revenge, but a few--most notably Aerie, Nalia, and Neera--die screaming in agony and begging to know what they did to deserve this. And special mention goes to Minsc, who dies trying to get Boo away from the circle so the hamster doesn't die as well.
30th Jul '17 2:58:18 AM Psychopompos007
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* HilariousInHindsight: When the party is inside underground levels, one of Aerie's random lines her people have a legend about Avariels living in a subterrean area, commenting it doesn't make sense (they're winged elves). At one point in ''VideoGame/NeverwinterNights: The Hordes of the Underdark''[[note]]another ''TabletopGame/ForgottenRealms'' computer RPG made by the same people and released a couple of years later[[/note]], you explore an Avariel city which has been transported in Underdark.
23rd Jul '17 6:22:04 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster:

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* CompleteMonster:CompleteMonster (for Bhaal, see Monster/DungeonsAndDragons):
19th Jul '17 12:30:01 PM MinisterOfSinister
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* FashionVictimVillain: Irenicus and Bodhi. His outfit somehow manages to combine leather bondage harness, a high collar, and enough empty space to show off much of his muscled body. He looks so ridiculous that it's a good thing he's such a powerful spellcaster and MagnificentBastard, because otherwise he'd be impossible to take seriously. Her outfit looks fit for a dominatrix/sex fiend, which makes no sense because Bodhi is a sexless creature. Of course given that [[spoiler:neither of them has a soul]], you could argue that they've stopped caring about their appearance, especially since they have more ''pressing'' issues to deal with.

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Irenicus and Bodhi. His outfit somehow manages to combine leather bondage harness, a high collar, and enough empty space to show off much of his muscled body. He looks so ridiculous that it's a good thing he's such a powerful spellcaster and MagnificentBastard, because otherwise he'd be impossible to take seriously. Her outfit looks fit for a dominatrix/sex fiend, which makes no sense because Bodhi is a sexless creature. Of course given that [[spoiler:neither of them has a soul]], you could argue that they've stopped caring about their appearance, especially since they have more ''pressing'' issues to deal with.with.
** Fire giants in ''Throne of Bhaal'', who look like big beardos in t-shirts, kilts and booties. It can be difficult to take them seriously with models like that.
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