History YMMV / BaldursGate

23rd Jul '17 6:22:04 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster:

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* CompleteMonster:CompleteMonster (for Bhaal, see Monster/DungeonsAndDragons):
19th Jul '17 12:30:01 PM MinisterOfSinister
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* FashionVictimVillain: Irenicus and Bodhi. His outfit somehow manages to combine leather bondage harness, a high collar, and enough empty space to show off much of his muscled body. He looks so ridiculous that it's a good thing he's such a powerful spellcaster and MagnificentBastard, because otherwise he'd be impossible to take seriously. Her outfit looks fit for a dominatrix/sex fiend, which makes no sense because Bodhi is a sexless creature. Of course given that [[spoiler:neither of them has a soul]], you could argue that they've stopped caring about their appearance, especially since they have more ''pressing'' issues to deal with.

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Irenicus and Bodhi. His outfit somehow manages to combine leather bondage harness, a high collar, and enough empty space to show off much of his muscled body. He looks so ridiculous that it's a good thing he's such a powerful spellcaster and MagnificentBastard, because otherwise he'd be impossible to take seriously. Her outfit looks fit for a dominatrix/sex fiend, which makes no sense because Bodhi is a sexless creature. Of course given that [[spoiler:neither of them has a soul]], you could argue that they've stopped caring about their appearance, especially since they have more ''pressing'' issues to deal with.with.
** Fire giants in ''Throne of Bhaal'', who look like big beardos in t-shirts, kilts and booties. It can be difficult to take them seriously with models like that.
18th Jul '17 4:27:05 PM GuiRitter
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** Averted in the sequel because you start with a higher level - 7 if new, max 9 if imported from the first game - and decent gear and party with every essential role filled - Tank (Minsc), Healer (Jaheira, Mage (Imoen) and thief (Imoen and later Yoshimo).

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** Averted in the sequel because you start with a higher level - 7 if new, max 9 if imported from the first game - and decent gear and party with every essential role filled - Tank (Minsc), Healer (Jaheira, (Jaheira), Mage (Imoen) and thief (Imoen and later Yoshimo).
18th Jul '17 1:56:07 PM GuiRitter
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** When your Reputation falls down to 1. Every non-evil companion will leave you, almost any shop will refuse to sell you goods, you run into cit guards and bounty hunters on almost any map, and you are listed as ''[[YouBastard Villain]]''.

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** When your Reputation falls down to 1. Every non-evil companion will leave you, almost any shop will refuse to sell you goods, you run into cit city guards and bounty hunters on almost any map, and you are listed as ''[[YouBastard Villain]]''.
18th Jul '17 1:53:42 PM GuiRitter
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** Aside frome the main villains, another one is Solaufein. At first he looks like your typical drow. Evil and a massive {{Jerkass}}, but with PragmaticVillainy as he prefers to use his time and energy on his actual enemies rather than picking on easy targets. [[spoiler: This is all an act. [[JerkassFacade Beneath the fascade]] is a well disguised [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch Eilistraeen drow]] with years of experience who, if you follow through the Underdark Arc long enough by not killing him as Phaere ordered, will pull a LaserGuidedKarma on her that is [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome something to behold]].]]

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** Aside frome from the main villains, another one is Solaufein. At first he looks like your typical drow. Evil and a massive {{Jerkass}}, but with PragmaticVillainy as he prefers to use his time and energy on his actual enemies rather than picking on easy targets. [[spoiler: This is all an act. [[JerkassFacade Beneath the fascade]] facade]] is a well disguised [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch Eilistraeen drow]] with years of experience who, if you follow through the Underdark Arc long enough by not killing him as Phaere ordered, will pull a LaserGuidedKarma on her that is [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome something to behold]].]]
18th Jul '17 1:51:21 PM GuiRitter
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*** [[spoiler:Amellysan/Melissan.]] She had almost everyone convinced that [[spoiler:she was a kind of activist dedicated to helping the weaker of the mortal children of Bhaal, the dead god of murder,]] while she was secretly herding them all in one place to be killed. She had the most powerful five convinced they could become demigods by destroying their lesser siblings in order to resurrect Bhaal, while her intention was to destroy them as well. And she had the dead god himself convinced she was going to resurrect him from the essences of his children, when she intended to use the power to [[AGodAmI become a god herself]]. When she encountered the PlayerCharacter, she had them kill all the other powerful Bhaalspawn while making sure they stil couldn't save the weaker ones in the city where she had led them.

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*** [[spoiler:Amellysan/Melissan.]] She had almost everyone convinced that [[spoiler:she was a kind of activist dedicated to helping the weaker of the mortal children of Bhaal, the dead god of murder,]] while she was secretly herding them all in one place to be killed. She had the most powerful five convinced they could become demigods by destroying their lesser siblings in order to resurrect Bhaal, while her intention was to destroy them as well. And she had the dead god himself convinced she was going to resurrect him from the essences of his children, when she intended to use the power to [[AGodAmI become a god herself]]. When she encountered the PlayerCharacter, she had them kill all the other powerful Bhaalspawn while making sure they stil still couldn't save the weaker ones in the city where she had led them.
18th Jul '17 11:37:24 AM GuiRitter
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** Joneleth [[BigBad Irenicus]] of ''[[VideoGame/BaldursGateII Shadows Of Amn]]'' introduced himself by putting the hero and [[spoiler: his sister]] through ColdBloodedTorture, having already murdered one of their companions and dissected the other in his [[MadScientist experiments]]. An inspection of his lair reveals twisted abominations he has created, [[AndIMustScream living in endless agony]], and a host of Dryads he has kept enslaved as his concubines. Irenicus forces the hero to awaken his power as a child of the dead god Bhaal so Irenicus can steal his soul, powering his magic with the souls of luckless captives who he states have no purpose but to die by his hand. It is revealed Irenicus was one an elf named Jonoleth who attempted to seize power by usurping a God of the elven Pantheon and killing their tree of life, for which he and his sister were stripped of their souls and banished. Irenicus tries to repeat the same action, and when confronted by his former lover, the Elven Queen Ellesime, Irenicus says he no longer remembers their love, and he feels nothing. He is only "Irenicus," meaning "Shattered One," and all he desires is power and vengeance.

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** Joneleth [[BigBad Irenicus]] of ''[[VideoGame/BaldursGateII Shadows Of Amn]]'' introduced himself by putting the hero and [[spoiler: his sister]] through ColdBloodedTorture, having already murdered one of their companions and dissected the other in his [[MadScientist experiments]]. An inspection of his lair reveals twisted abominations he has created, [[AndIMustScream living in endless agony]], and a host of Dryads he has kept enslaved as his concubines. Irenicus forces the hero to awaken his power as a child of the dead god Bhaal so Irenicus can steal his soul, powering his magic with the souls of luckless captives who he states have no purpose but to die by his hand. It is revealed Irenicus was one once an elf named Jonoleth who attempted to seize power by usurping a God of the elven Pantheon and killing their tree of life, for which he and his sister were stripped of their souls and banished. Irenicus tries to repeat the same action, and when confronted by his former lover, the Elven Queen Ellesime, Irenicus says he no longer remembers their love, and he feels nothing. He is only "Irenicus," meaning "Shattered One," and all he desires is power and vengeance.
18th Jul '17 11:33:04 AM GuiRitter
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* CanonDefilement: The novels. Dear ''God'', the novels. It'd be easier to make a list of what they got right then what they got wrong.

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* CanonDefilement: The novels. Dear ''God'', the novels. It'd be easier to make a list of what they got right then than what they got wrong.
18th Jul '17 11:33:04 AM GuiRitter
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17th Jul '17 4:45:01 PM GuiRitter
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* AbandonShipping: Any amorous ideas you may have had about Imoen in the first game are likely to get shot down in the sequel when it's revealed she is also a child of Bhaal. However, it is highly unlikely she and the player character are actually biologically related (the player character can be of a completely different species, after all), so it didn't stop stop [[BrotherSisterIncest everyone]], and at least two Imoen romance mods were made.

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* AbandonShipping: Any amorous ideas you may have had about Imoen in the first game are likely to get shot down in the sequel when it's revealed she is also a child of Bhaal. However, it is highly unlikely she and the player character are actually biologically related (the player character can be of a completely different species, after all), so it didn't stop stop [[BrotherSisterIncest everyone]], and at least two Imoen romance mods were made.
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