History YMMV / Bakemonogatari

1st Oct '16 4:07:12 PM 64SuperNintendo
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* TakeThatScrappy: [[TalkToTheFist Senjougahara knocking Oikura out]] in episode 3 of ''Owarimonogatari''. Episode 5 shows just how much damage she did: Oikura had to stay home from school for two days and her face swelled to the point where she couldn't pronounce the "ra" syllable, which might invoke a little sympathy- although, since Oikura did spend about 15 minutes talking shit to Araragi and Senjougahara and even [[ArmorPiercingSlap slapped the latter]], it's hard to argue she didn't get what she deserved.



* TakeThatScrappy: [[TalkToTheFist Senjougahara knocking Oikura out]] in episode 3 of ''Owarimonogatari''. Episode 5 shows just how much damage she did: Oikura had to stay home from school for two days and her face swelled to the point where she couldn't pronounce the "ra" syllable, which might invoke a little sympathy- although, since Oikura did spend about 15 minutes talking shit to Araragi and Senjougahara and even [[ArmorPiercingSlap slapped the latter]], it's hard to argue she didn't get what she deserved.



* UnpopularPopularCharacter: The amount of people who like [[ConMan Kaiki]] InUniverse can be counted on one hand. After the airing of ''Koimonogatari'' he became one of the largest [[EnsembleDarkhorse Ensemble Darkhorses]] in the fandom.



* UnpopularPopularCharacter: The amount of people who like [[ConMan Kaiki]] InUniverse can be counted on one hand. After the airing of ''Koimonogatari'' he became one of the largest [[EnsembleDarkhorse Ensemble Darkhorses]] in the fandom.
6th Sep '16 8:33:33 AM TheKaizerreich
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** Shinobu: Fifth place on the popularity polls while not speaking a single word and getting relatively little screen time is pretty impressive.

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** Shinobu: Fifth place on the popularity polls while not speaking a single word and getting relatively little screen time is pretty impressive. People who've never seen/read the story but at least recognise her almost always think she's an incredibly important characer simply due to the sheer amount of fan-art she gets (including a lot dedicated to the bathtub scene).
11th Mar '16 6:55:53 AM chucknormie
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: There are as many ways to view Kaiki as there are grains of sand on the beach. Is he an amoral, money-grubbing scumbag who is [[ItsAllAboutMe only in it to benefit himself]]? Is he a Robin Hood-like figure who only scams people [[AssholeVictim who really deserve it]]? Is he [[GoodIsNotNice a far jerkier version of Oshino]] who helps people overcome their issues [[ZeroApprovalGambit by giving them someone to hate]]? Is he a MagnificentBastard who masks his true goals with the persona of an amoral ConMan? [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs Or is he a little bit of all the above?]]



* InternetBackdraft: Thanks to an anonymous user now called [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin "Gorespammer"]] relentlessly trolling and reverse-trolling the series, it's pretty much impossible to have a serious discussion about it on [[Website/FourChan /a/.]]

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Thanks to an anonymous user now called [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin "Gorespammer"]] relentlessly trolling and reverse-trolling the series, it's pretty much impossible to have a serious discussion about it on [[Website/FourChan /a/.]]]]
** The infamous [[spoiler:[[TheirFirstTime Walk Her Home Gently]]]] scene from ''Nisemonogatari''. Let's just say that anyone who didn't ship [[spoiler:Senjougahara]] with Araragi was enraged due to the fact that it [[ShipSinking effectively killed every other member of the harem's chances dead in the water]], and even some of her fans wanted [[MyGirlIsNotASlut to keep her pure]] or acknowledged there were better, less-trolling ways to establish the OfficialCouple for good. It doesn't help that the scene [[BigLippedAlligatorMoment is never referenced again]].



* ShipToShipCombat: Surprisingly [[AvertedTrope averted]], considering the [[HaremGenre genre]] of the series. The closest thing the fandom has to this might be Koyomi x some other girl shippers being upset at the [[SpotlightStealingSquad large amount of side materials and fanart]] Senjougahara has dedicated to her.

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* ShipToShipCombat: Surprisingly [[AvertedTrope averted]], considering the [[HaremGenre genre]] of the series. The closest thing the fandom has to this might be Koyomi x some other girl shippers being upset at the [[SpotlightStealingSquad large amount of side materials and fanart]] Senjougahara has dedicated to her. [[InternetBackdraft That was, until Nise...]]
27th Jan '16 2:21:00 PM xxbiasonxxx
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** [[http://a.cuntflaps.me/ptyfmiv.webm The samurai's laugh]] in Episode 7 of ''Owarimonogatari'' sounds like a rejected [[WesternAnimation/DextersLaboratory Mandark laugh]]. [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67ZVpUqvKh8 Koyomi's imitation]], on the other hand, [[Funny/{{Bakemonogatari}} is actually pretty funny to listen to]].
12th Dec '15 4:23:33 PM chucknormie
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* AmericansHateTingle: Nadeko Sengoku is beloved in Japan. In the West, however, she's a BaseBreaker, almost bordering on [[TheScrappy scrappydom]] [[spoiler:after the events of ''Otorimonogatari'']].



* BaseBreaker: Senjougahara is a big one. While she has a huge amount of fans, there are quite a lot who don't like her, mainly [[ShipToShipCombat fans of other girls]]. This can mainly be attributed to the fact that she and Araragi have been the OfficialCouple [[UpToEleven since the first book in the series]] and show no signs of breaking up anytime soon, which understandably upsets fans of other girls because even though they may get ShipTease with Araragi, Senjougahara's presence gives them almost no chance of actually getting with him. Even though she has gone through CharacterDevelopment since ''Nisemonogatari'', a lot of those same fans [[NeverLiveItDown refuse to look past her borderline sociopathic personality in the first arc]] and refer to her and Araragi's dynamic as resembling StockholmSyndrome rather than a normal, well-adjusted romantic relationship. [[spoiler:Oh boy, and you can bet those fans were rustled when it was all but said Senjougahara HAD SEX WITH Araragi in ''Nisemonogatari''...]]

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* BaseBreaker: Senjougahara is a big one. While she has a huge amount of fans, there are quite a lot who don't like her, mainly [[ShipToShipCombat fans of other girls]]. This can mainly be attributed to the fact that she and Araragi have been the OfficialCouple [[UpToEleven since the first book in the series]] and show no signs of breaking up anytime soon, soon or even having any relationship instability, which understandably upsets fans of other girls because even though they may get ShipTease with Araragi, Senjougahara's presence gives them almost no chance of actually getting with him. Even though she has gone through CharacterDevelopment since ''Nisemonogatari'', a lot of those same fans [[NeverLiveItDown refuse to look past her borderline sociopathic personality in the first arc]] and refer to her and Araragi's dynamic as resembling StockholmSyndrome rather than a normal, well-adjusted romantic relationship. [[spoiler:Oh boy, and you can bet those fans were rustled when it was all but said Senjougahara HAD SEX WITH Araragi in ''Nisemonogatari''...]]
27th Nov '15 10:41:08 AM chucknormie
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** Sodachi Oikura probably beat both Kaiki and the kid from ''Koimonogatari'' in the instant hatedom department. At first, she only copped heat from [[EnsembleDarkhorse Ougi]] fans who were worried she would take screentime away from their favorite character, but following episode 3 of ''Owarimonogatari'', where her character arc begins, there was hardly a fan who didn't despise her, mainly due to her completely unwarranted bitchy attitude towards Araragi. The hate softened a bit after Hanekawa and Araragi's visit to her house, [[BrokenBird where she's just too pitiful to hate]]. It helps that she took responsibility for her actions and her backstory was revealed: [[spoiler:She probably has had the most severe TraumaCongaLine out of everyone in the cast, including outright AttemptedSuicide]]. She's still a BaseBreaker due to meta reasons, but she's getting a great deal more sympathy than she got at the beginning. Interestingly, [[IntendedAudienceReaction it seems that Nisio Isin intentionally set her up to be a]] [[TheScrappy Scrappy]], what with her receiving a TakeThatScrappy in the same first episode of her arc mentioned above.

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** Sodachi Oikura probably beat both Kaiki and the kid from ''Koimonogatari'' in the instant hatedom department. At first, she only copped heat from [[EnsembleDarkhorse Ougi]] fans who were worried she would take screentime away from their favorite character, but following episode 3 of ''Owarimonogatari'', where her character arc begins, there was hardly a fan who didn't despise her, mainly due to her completely unwarranted bitchy attitude towards Araragi. The hate softened a bit after Hanekawa and Araragi's visit to her house, [[BrokenBird where she's just too pitiful to hate]]. It helps that she took responsibility for her actions and her backstory was revealed: [[spoiler:She probably has had the most severe TraumaCongaLine out of everyone in the cast, including outright AttemptedSuicide]]. She's AttemptedSuicide and ''taking care of her mother's dead body'' because the death {{br|eakTheCutie}}oke her ''that much'']]. Creator/MarinaInoue's heartfelt monologue was a big help, and within hours of that episode's airing, the hate for her switched to sympathy and schadenfreude. In fact, it reached the point where many in the fandom poured hate on Senjougahara because [[spoiler:she accepted Oikura's apology in a rather backhanded, arrogant manner and refused to apologize for hitting her]]. Nonetheless, she's still a BaseBreaker due to meta reasons, reasons and the fact that [[NeverLiveItDown some fans still can't forgive her for her earlier actions]], but she's getting a great deal more sympathy than she got at the beginning. Interestingly, [[IntendedAudienceReaction it seems that Nisio Isin intentionally set her up to be a]] [[TheScrappy Scrappy]], what with her receiving a TakeThatScrappy in the same first episode of her arc mentioned above.beginning.
16th Nov '15 11:15:23 AM chucknormie
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** And now Kaiki is one too, following the massive amount of CharacterDevelopment he got in ''Koimonogatari''.

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** And now Kaiki is one too, following the massive amount of CharacterDevelopment he got in ''Koimonogatari''.
16th Nov '15 11:15:05 AM chucknormie
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** Nadeko: [[http://www.thebanzaieffect.com/articles/tanaka-kun/which-bakemonogatari-characters-the-best/ Recent character popularity polls]] has confirmed that she is currently the most popular character of this show, despite her arc is the shortest among other sub-heroines.
16th Nov '15 11:12:50 AM chucknormie
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* ContestedSequel: Many who enjoyed ''Bakemonogatari'' have expressed distaste for ''Nisemonogatari'', thanks to it dialing the {{Fanservice}} UpToEleven. In addition, the pacing also drew flak, with the "Karen Bee" arc [[{{Padding}} being drawn out over 7 episodes]]. ''Nekomonogatari: Kuro'' got the fans back on track, and ''Monogatari Series Second Season'' seems to have fully [[WinBackTheCrowd Won Back the Crowd]].
8th Nov '15 12:44:27 AM DarkHunter
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** Bakemonogatari is a slideshow.

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** Bakemonogatari is a slideshow.[[note]]The show's frequent use of still frames, especially during dialogue, lead to many people jokingly claiming this.[[/note]]


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** The toothbrush scene. Everything about the toothbrush scene. [[note]]Nisemonogatari somehow managed to make a person brushing another's teeth very erotic and a metaphor for sex. Often brought up as the height of the Monogatari series's weirdness.[[/note]]
** Spooky Ougi[[note]]Describing Ougi as such became very popular, particularly around Owarimonogatari's release, due to her bizarre character design and odd mannerisms.[[/note]]
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