History YMMV / ArabianNights

9th Sep '15 3:47:48 PM fruitstripegum
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* For that matter, the framing device. At no point is Shahryar called out on the fact that he's killed a thousand innocent women, just because he was deceived by one. And we're supposed to be ''' ''happy'' ''' that Scheherezade ends up with him!

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* ** For that matter, the framing device. At no point is Shahryar called out on the fact that he's killed a thousand innocent women, just because he was deceived by one. And we're supposed to be ''' ''happy'' ''' that Scheherezade ends up with him!
26th Aug '15 6:07:26 AM Ciara25
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* For that matter, the framing device. At no point is Shahryar called out on the fact that he's killed a thousand innocent women, just because he was deceived by one. And we're supposed to be ''' ''happy'' ''' that Scheherezade ends up with him!
4th Jul '15 10:29:26 PM CreamyDemon
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** On the other hand, in the first section of the King 'Umar ibn al-Nu'man stories we meet a [[FeministFantasy group of warrior women]] whose leader can fight a warrior prince to a stalemate... She is then drugged and raped by the King, so she flees in 'dishonour'. So close to being ahead of its time.
27th Jan '15 8:22:46 AM hbi2k
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: (In the 2010 musical) [[spoiler: The male genie and Aladdin take back Djinninia and Jasmina in spite of all the wrong they've done.]]

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(In the 2010 musical) [[spoiler: The male genie and Aladdin take back Djinninia and Jasmina in spite of all the wrong they've done.]]
10th Dec '14 7:41:16 PM WarriorEowyn
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** In one story, a man murders his wife after concluding, after a comment from a random person on the street (who has an apple that her husband travelled a great distance to give to her), that she's unfaithful to him. Immediately after this, he learns that he was wrong. When the sultan learns of the murder and the man tells him this story, the sultan orders the death of the man who falsely claimed the wife was cheating, but appoints the murderer to a high position and ''gives him the sultan's daughter in marriage''.

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** In one story, a man murders his wife after concluding, after a comment from a random person on the street (who has an apple that her husband travelled a great distance to give to her), that she's unfaithful to him. Immediately after this, he learns that he was wrong. When the sultan learns of the murder and the man tells him this story, the sultan orders the death of the man who falsely claimed the wife was cheating, but appoints the murderer to a high position and ''gives him the sultan's daughter in marriage''. position.
10th Dec '14 7:34:23 PM WarriorEowyn
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* ValuesDissonance: Like crazy. Many/most of the stories portray women as devious, immoral, unfaithful, foolish, and untrustworthy, and there's something of an obsession with women cheating on their husbands with ''black'' men, as if that's particularly egregious. Beating one's wife is treated as acceptable and even laudable.

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* ValuesDissonance: Like crazy. Many/most of the stories portray women as devious, immoral, unfaithful, foolish, and untrustworthy, and there's something of an obsession with women cheating on their husbands with ''black'' men, as if that's particularly egregious. Beating one's wife is treated as acceptable and even laudable. It's not uncommon for male characters to have sex with women who aren't their wives, and this isn't treated as morally objectionable, whereas a woman cheating is treated as a justly capital offense.
10th Dec '14 7:32:09 PM WarriorEowyn
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* ValuesDissonance: Like crazy.

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* ValuesDissonance: Like crazy. Many/most of the stories portray women as devious, immoral, unfaithful, foolish, and untrustworthy, and there's something of an obsession with women cheating on their husbands with ''black'' men, as if that's particularly egregious. Beating one's wife is treated as acceptable and even laudable.



** In one story, a man murders his wife after concluding, after a comment from a random person on the street (who has an apple that her husband travelled a great distance to give to her), that she's unfaithful to him. Immediately after this, he learns that he was wrong. When the sultan learns of the murder and the man tells him this story, the sultan orders the death of the man who falsely claimed the wife was cheating, but appoints the murderer to a high position and ''gives him the sultan's daughter in marriage''.



** More commonly, why would anyone want to marry a man so vengeful and cruel that he enacted a plan to marry a new woman every day, sleep with her at night, and then kill her in the morning -- in some versions, for three whole years? A man that vicious should be put down, nevermind the fact that he ''rules a country.''

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** More commonly, why would anyone want to marry a man so vengeful and cruel that he enacted a plan to marry a new woman every day, sleep with her at night, and then kill her in the morning -- in some versions, for three whole years? A man that vicious should be put down, nevermind the fact that he ''rules a country.''
7th Dec '14 4:40:00 AM SaramarCar
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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: According to TheOtherWiki, the ''Nights'' to this day aren't particularly well-regarded in the Arabic world to anyone beyond certain writers and scholars, and it was even ''less'' popular back whenever it first was written (as Medieval Arabs thought that TrueArtIsPoetry). It's entirely possible that the ''Nights'' have had more influence on European literature than they did on Arabian.

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* GermansLoveDavidHasselhoff: According to TheOtherWiki, the ''Nights'' to this day aren't particularly well-regarded in the Arabic world to anyone beyond certain writers and scholars, and it was even ''less'' popular back whenever it first was written (as Medieval Arabs thought that TrueArtIsPoetry).True Art Is Poetry). It's entirely possible that the ''Nights'' have had more influence on European literature than they did on Arabian.
19th Sep '14 8:12:53 PM LogoP
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** At times it is (or was at least) a convention for Islamic storytellers to use, as preliminary decorations to their stories, phrases like "'Tis said-but Allah alone knows." While this comes across mostly as flourish to a Westerner, to a Moslem it was a way to avoid annoyance from religious authorities as the habitual distinction between lying and storytelling wasn't always taken for granted. If Allah alone knows, TheStoryteller couldn't be held to be dishonest as he was theoretically reporting what was said, and of course "Allah alone knows."



*** I always assumed Scheherezade only married him to stop the killings with her Thousand and one nights gimmick.
15th Sep '14 6:19:32 AM 1upmushroom
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*** I always assumed she only married him to stop the killings with her Thousand and one nights gimmick.

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*** I always assumed she Scheherezade only married him to stop the killings with her Thousand and one nights gimmick.
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