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* CompleteMonster: ComicBook/TheJoker continues his vile streak. See [[YMMV/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns here for details]].

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* CompleteMonster: ComicBook/TheJoker continues his vile streak.ComicBook/TheJoker. See [[YMMV/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns here for details]].
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%%* CompleteMonster: ComicBook/TheJoker. See [[YMMV/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns here]].

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%%* * CompleteMonster: ComicBook/TheJoker. ComicBook/TheJoker continues his vile streak. See [[YMMV/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns here]].here for details]].
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* DesignatedHero: Batman, who's psychotic, brutal, and an-all round {{Jerkass}}. He kidnaps Dick Grayson (albeit from DirtyCops that were about to kill the boy), and then forces him to live alone in the Batcave, expecting him to hunt the rats and bats in there for food. Then he complains about having Dick Grayson, age twelve, around and repeatedly insults and assaults him for getting on his nerves. He goes out on patrol laughing about how awesome he is and how much he loves being Batman as he gleefully poisons criminals, sets them on fire, and attacks police officers; while it isn't outright stated, FridgeHorror implies many of the victims of these incidents don't survive the encounter. And he thinks that if he had a Power Ring like Green Lantern, he would use it to enforce his will on the world, destroy (unspecified) enemies of the United States, and exile Superman from Earth—which is basically the backstory for ''Sinestro''; using a Power Ring for selfish, tyrannical means was the reason he was cast out of the Green Lantern Corps. It says something when the ''Villains Wiki'' has an [[https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Batman_(Frank_Miller) entry for him.]]

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* DesignatedHero: Batman, who's psychotic, brutal, and an-all round {{Jerkass}}. He kidnaps Dick Grayson Grayson, age twelve (albeit from DirtyCops that were about to kill the boy), and then forces leaves him to live alone fend for himself in the Batcave, expecting him to hunt the rats and bats in there for food. Then he complains about having Dick Grayson, age twelve, around getting on his nerves and repeatedly insults and assaults him, and also pushes around Alfred for taking pity on the boy and feeding and clothing him. His inner narration portrays him for getting on his nerves. He goes out on patrol laughing as a borderline PsychopathicManchild who thinks about how awesome cool he is and how much he loves being Batman Batman, as he gleefully poisons beats up criminals, poisons them, sets them on fire, and attacks police officers; while it isn't outright stated, FridgeHorror implies many of the officers, and contrary to Batman's (usual) code against killing, it's often vague if his victims of these incidents don't actually survive these attacks. He also sneers at the encounter. And he Justice League as ineffectual losers that squander their power, and thinks that if he had a Power Ring like Green Lantern, he would he'd use it to enforce his will on TakeOverTheWorld by exiling Superman from Earth, destroying the world, destroy (unspecified) armies of enemies of the United States, and exile Superman from Earth—which is basically implicitly anyone else he considers an enemy (citing parents groups, civil rights activists, and the backstory for ''Sinestro''; using a Power Ring for selfish, tyrannical means was the reason he was cast out of the Green Lantern Corps.police, to Hal Jordan as those he's "up against"). It says something when the ''Villains Wiki'' has an [[https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Batman_(Frank_Miller) entry for him.]]

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* DesignatedHero: Batman, who is psychotic, brutal, and an-all round {{Jerkass}}. He kidnaps Dick Grayson (albeit from DirtyCops that were about to kill the boy), and then forces him to live alone in the Batcave, expecting him to hunt the rats and bats in there for food. Then he complains about having Dick Grayson, age twelve, around and repeatedly insults and assaults him for getting on his nerves. He goes out on patrol laughing about how awesome he is and how much he loves being Batman as he gleefully poisons criminals, sets them on fire, and attacks police officers; while it isn't outright stated, FridgeHorror implies many of the victims of these incidents don't survive the encounter. And he thinks that if he had a Power Ring like Green Lantern, he would use it to enforce his will on the world, destroy (unspecified) enemies of the United States, and exile Superman from Earth—which is basically the backstory for ''Sinestro''; using a Power Ring for selfish, tyrannical means was the reason he was cast out of the Green Lantern Corps. Why are readers supposed to like this depiction of Batman, exactly? It says something when the ''Villains Wiki'' has an [[https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Batman_(Frank_Miller) entry for him.]]

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* DesignatedHero: Batman, who is who's psychotic, brutal, and an-all round {{Jerkass}}. He kidnaps Dick Grayson (albeit from DirtyCops that were about to kill the boy), and then forces him to live alone in the Batcave, expecting him to hunt the rats and bats in there for food. Then he complains about having Dick Grayson, age twelve, around and repeatedly insults and assaults him for getting on his nerves. He goes out on patrol laughing about how awesome he is and how much he loves being Batman as he gleefully poisons criminals, sets them on fire, and attacks police officers; while it isn't outright stated, FridgeHorror implies many of the victims of these incidents don't survive the encounter. And he thinks that if he had a Power Ring like Green Lantern, he would use it to enforce his will on the world, destroy (unspecified) enemies of the United States, and exile Superman from Earth—which is basically the backstory for ''Sinestro''; using a Power Ring for selfish, tyrannical means was the reason he was cast out of the Green Lantern Corps. Why are readers supposed to like this depiction of Batman, exactly? It says something when the ''Villains Wiki'' has an [[https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Batman_(Frank_Miller) entry for him.]]



** The 1994 ''Batman/ComicBook/{{Spawn}}'' crossover[[note]]also written by Frank Miller[[/note]] had Batman riled up at Spawn's lethal methods, vexing him to the point where he chucked a batarang in Spawn's face when Spawn asked to shake hands. At the time it was understandable; in ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanYearOne'', he never used lethal force. After his child abusing, cop-killing antics in ''All Star Batman'' his attitude towards Spawn killing seems flat out hypocritical. However, it's completely in line with Miller, as Spawn ''asks'' Batman why ''not'' kill the villain - and Batman can't think of anything. FacePalm.

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** The 1994 ''Batman/ComicBook/{{Spawn}}'' crossover[[note]]also written by Frank Miller[[/note]] had Batman riled up at Spawn's lethal methods, vexing him to the point where he chucked a batarang in Spawn's face when Spawn asked to shake hands. At the time it was understandable; in ''ComicBook/BatmanTheDarkKnightReturns'' and ''ComicBook/BatmanYearOne'', he never used lethal force. After his child abusing, cop-killing antics in ''All Star Batman'' his attitude towards Spawn killing seems flat out hypocritical. However, it's completely in line with Miller, as Spawn ''asks'' Batman why ''not'' kill the villain - and Batman can't think of anything. FacePalm.



** At one point in the story, Batman contemplates taking Green Lantern's ring for himself. Although the general idea of Batman becoming a heroic Green Lantern was explored in the One Shot ''Batman: In Darkest Night'', ''ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal'' (which came after ''[=ASBAR=]'') features The Dawnbreaker, who's essentially what an unhinged Batman ''could'' be if he became a Green Lantern.
** On the same token above, Batman laughs like a psycho. Considering how sociopathic this version of Batman is, no doubt someone would compare him with [[ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal The Batman Who Laughs]].

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** At one point in the story, Batman contemplates taking Green Lantern's ring for himself. Although the general idea of Batman becoming a heroic Green Lantern was explored in the One Shot ''Batman: In Darkest Night'', ''ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal'' (which came after ''[=ASBAR=]'') features The the Dawnbreaker, who's essentially what an unhinged Batman ''could'' be if he became a Green Lantern.
** On the same token above, Batman laughs like in a psycho. psychotic, Joker-esque manner. Considering how sociopathic this version of Batman is, no doubt someone would compare him with [[ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal The the Batman Who Laughs]].



** This Batman's actions are ''very'' similar to those of The Red Death from the aforementioned ''ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal''. He's even more akin to the gun-wielding Grim Knight of The Batman-Who-Laughs self-titled mini-series. In particular, the Grim Knight and Crazy Steve are both out and out fascists who rant and ramble about their superiority.

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** This Batman's actions are ''very'' similar to those of The the Red Death from the aforementioned ''ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal''. He's even more akin to the gun-wielding Grim Knight of The Batman-Who-Laughs the Batman Who Laughs' self-titled mini-series. In particular, the Grim Knight and Crazy Steve are both out and out fascists who rant and ramble about their superiority.



*** And then Miller [[AscendedMeme put the word more and more into Batman's lines]] until it's practically a VerbalTic.

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*** And then Miller [[AscendedMeme put the word more and more into Batman's lines]] until it's it practically became a VerbalTic.



** Speaking of the Batmobile, the fact that Batman, who is supposed to be dark, brooding and more than a bit psychotically violent, inexplicably becomes a pouty, vulgar {{Manchild}} about Robin mocking his ThemeNaming tendencies with it in particular. ''Obsessively'' so, according to both his rant above and the surrounding narration taking great offense.

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** Speaking of the Batmobile, the fact that Batman, who is who's supposed to be dark, brooding and more than a bit psychotically violent, inexplicably becomes a pouty, vulgar {{Manchild}} PsychopathicManchild about Robin mocking his ThemeNaming tendencies with it in particular. ''Obsessively'' so, according to both his rant above and the surrounding narration taking great offense.



* NightmareFuel: Batman, when he isn't being completely ridiculous.
** Similarly, Alfred discussing Bruce in disturbing romantic terms...

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Batman, when he isn't being completely ridiculous.
ridiculous, puts the ''Joker'' to shame in the unhinged psychopathy department.
** Similarly, Alfred discussing Bruce in disturbing romantic disturbingly romantic-sounding terms...
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** Frank Miller considers this comic in the same continuity as ''The Dark Knight Returns'' and its sequels, and also considers ''Superman: Year One'' in that continuity too. When questioned on how Superman in his previous works was portrayed as ineffectual and foolish, Miller commented that Superman came off that way because those books were about Batman, so they're going to make Batman look good and Superman look bad. If one applies that idea to this comic and sees Dick Grayson, age twelve, as the viewpoint character, suddenly Batman's behavior starts to make sense: Dick is an UnreliableNarrator who sees Batman as more grim, violent, and abusive, than he really is.

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** Frank Miller considers this comic in the same continuity as ''The Dark Knight Returns'' and its sequels, and also considers ''Superman: Year One'' in that continuity too. When questioned on how Superman in his previous works was portrayed as ineffectual and foolish, Miller commented that Superman came off that way because those books were about Batman, so they're going to make Batman look good and Superman look bad. If one applies that idea to this comic and sees Dick Grayson, age twelve, as the viewpoint character, suddenly Batman's behavior starts to make sense: Dick is an UnreliableNarrator who sees Batman as more grim, violent, and abusive, than he really is.[[note]]Though this still begs the question of how Dick knows about all the other events going on in the series that he wasn't present for.[[/note]]
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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Vicki Vale and Black Canary's contributions to the plot are to just strut around in skimpy outfits [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys and lust after brutish alpha males]]. Batgirl avoids being objectified, but that's probably because she's stated to be 15.

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* BestKnownForTheFanservice: Vicki Vale and Black Canary's contributions to the plot are to just strut around in skimpy outfits [[AllGirlsWantBadBoys and lust after brutish alpha males]]. Batgirl avoids being objectified, sexualized, but that's probably because she's stated to be 15.

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