History YMMV / AlbertoDelRio

23rd Jul '17 8:19:48 PM JamesAustin
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** Look at the December 24, 2012 edition of ''Raw'' and tell us that wasn't a company-wide Christmastime hazing of Alberto's character. He ''did'' run over Santa, but that was largely an accident, made even weirder by the fact that he had already done a HeelFaceTurn a little more than a week before.

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** Look at the December 24, 2012 edition of ''Raw'' and tell us that wasn't a company-wide Christmastime hazing of Alberto's character. He ''did'' run over Santa, but that was largely an accident, made even weirder by the fact that he Alberto had already done a HeelFaceTurn a little more than a week before.
23rd Jul '17 8:16:36 PM JamesAustin
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* EthnicScrappy: It's widely believed that Del Rio's continued (over)exposure at the top of the card during his WWE runs stems from the company's perceived need to have a Hispanic star due to an injury-prone Wrestling/ReyMysterio approaching the end of his career, as well as the mostly failed Wrestling/SinCara experiment. To make matters worse, a fair bit of this fanbase was built on the career of one Wrestling/EddieGuerrero, who, of course, had much, ''much'' more charisma than Del Rio does. El Patrón is a great subversion, however, as he has the combination of that fanbase, the lucha libre fanbase he previously knew as Dos Caras Jr., and the fanbase that likes seeing WWE get called to task when perceived to be vile or incompetent — as well as, again, much more charisma than Del Rio does.



* {{Misblamed}}:

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** His relationship with Paige. ''Oh boy'', his relationship with Paige. Everything about that relationship says that if they're not absolutely perfect for each other the way they think they are, they will both give each other hell. Alberto is a near-40-year-old man at the twilight of his career whose WWE experience was mutually miserable (for both himself and the company), and if both he and his wife's statements in court are to be believed, checked out of an abusive marriage to the mother of his three kids months before he returned to WWE and then proceeded to get involved with two women on the roster the following year before the divorce was even finalized (hint: it's still ongoing). The second woman being Paige, who's fifteen years his junior and has a history of flaking out on relationships, who seems to have already hit her peak as a wrestler and has had her career hampered over the past couple of years by a combination of medical issues and attitude problems backstage, and who's basically pushed the pace of the relationship to the point she proposed to him in front of a live crowd in another company's wrestling ring while she's still under WWE contract—and again, ''his divorce is still ongoing''. She gushes about him on Instagram while he seemingly devotes all his non-business attention to her, and she enjoys hanging out with his kids as well, meaning they're clearly both in love with each other. Yet not only does the latter fact get completely ignored, every aforementioned potential red flag in the relationship is blamed as being Alberto's fault because Paige's fans, who are all caught up in the idea of her as an [[TheUnfairSex icon for female empowerment]] [[HateDumb within the WWE universe]], hold him directly responsible as the millstone around her career even though she keeps talking like she'll get back in the ring and might even steal some of his moves, and would deliberately cast him as some master manipulator so as to push aside ''her very agency as a grown woman who can make and deal with her own choices'' rather than accept that she'd be making a personal sacrifice if she does decide to abandon wrestling to be with him.
** July 2017 seems to be playing out as a classic example of this. TMZ recorded and released audio of an argument between Alberto and Paige at an airport around July 2017, prompting the police in Orlando, Florida to launch an investigation. In an interview with Heavy.com after the incident, one witness said Paige blamed Alberto for being verbally and physically abusive to her, as well as ruining her career. ''However'', it should be noted that on the tape itself, Alberto claimed Paige was abusive ''to him'' and declared his intent to press charges — and that as in any "he said, she said" cases, whether one or the other, or even both of them, are actually responsible is largely indeterminable. Regardless of all this, many pundits and fans ran with the notion that this proves Alberto hasn't been {{Misblamed}} at all, roundly decrying him as an abuser and expressing quasi-familial concern for Paige's well-being — and [[Wrestling/{{TNA}} Global Force/Impact Wrestling]] even leapt to suspend him and preempt his ''just-started world title reign'' — before the facts even began to play out. When Paige issued a statement stating she got angry over a small issue and threw a cup of beer in his face during a heated argument, the common assumption was that she was falsely incriminating herself to defend Alberto in a classic case of DV StockholmSyndrome, in spite of the fact that her statement contradicted nothing that was heard in the tape — another blatant denial of her agency as an adult human being to paint Alberto as her devil. They instead put more stock into Paige's family making accusations against both Alberto and one of her previous boyfriends, the former Wrestling/BradMaddox, despite said accusations containing timeline inconsistencies, zero evidence, and no scenario in which the family doesn't look worse.[[labelnote:*]]Paige was anywhere between 20 and 22, not a mere 18, during her relationship with Maddox — a mistake you wouldn't think her own brothers would make when talking about something so series — and the Knight family's World Association of Wrestling promoted Alberto as their main champion for four months prior to the TMZ recording. As it stands, either the Knights had evidence that the baby of the family was being abused by at least two boyfriends yet not only sat on it for years, they promoted one of said abusers as their wrestling champion, or, more likely, they DON'T have evidence and are saying this now to try to get rid of Alberto based on knee-jerk emotions or a longstanding grudge against the relationship and only made him the champion to begin with for Paige's sake.[[/labelnote]] Only a few pointed out that he might be innocent and/or that she might actually be guilty in this case; lo and behold, the ensuing police investigation has ruled him out as a suspect and is in fact leaning towards charging Paige. Thus, of all the possible conclusions one could reach prematurely as to what's been going on, the ones in which she is a purely innocent victim who never did anything wrong except getting with a dastardly abuser are largely thrown out the window — meaning, effectively, he HAS been misblamed.

to:

** His relationship with Paige. ''Oh boy'', his relationship with Paige. Everything about that relationship says that if they're not absolutely perfect for each other the way they think they are, they will both give each other hell. Alberto is a near-40-year-old man at the twilight of his career whose WWE experience was mutually miserable (for both himself and the company), and if both he and his wife's statements in court are to be believed, checked out of an abusive marriage to the mother of his three kids months before he returned to WWE and then proceeded to get involved with two women on the roster the following year before the divorce was even finalized (hint: it's still ongoing). The second woman being Paige, who's fifteen years his junior and has a history of flaking out on relationships, who seems to have already hit her peak as a wrestler and has had her career hampered over the past couple of years by a combination of medical issues and attitude problems backstage, and who's basically pushed the pace of the relationship to the point she proposed to him in front of a live crowd in another company's wrestling ring while she's still under WWE contract—and again, ''his divorce is still ongoing''. She gushes about him on Instagram while he seemingly devotes all his non-business attention to her, and she enjoys hanging out with his kids as well, meaning they're clearly both in love with each other. Yet not only does the latter fact get completely ignored, every aforementioned potential red flag in the relationship is blamed as being Alberto's fault because Paige's fans, who are all caught up in the idea of her as an [[TheUnfairSex icon for female empowerment]] [[HateDumb within the WWE universe]], hold him directly responsible as the millstone around her career even though she keeps talking like she'll get back in the ring and might even steal some of his moves, and would deliberately cast him as some master manipulator so as to push aside ''her very agency as a grown woman who can make and deal with her own choices'' rather than accept that she'd be making a personal sacrifice if she does decide to abandon wrestling to be with him.
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him. July 2017 in particular seems to be playing out as a classic example of this. TMZ recorded and released audio of an argument between Alberto and Paige at an airport around July 2017, prompting the police in Orlando, Florida to launch an investigation. In an interview with Heavy.com after the incident, one witness said Paige blamed Alberto for being verbally and physically abusive to her, as well as ruining her career. ''However'', it should be noted that on the tape itself, Alberto claimed Paige was abusive ''to him'' and declared his intent to press charges — and that as in any "he said, she said" cases, whether one or the other, or even both of them, are actually responsible is largely indeterminable. Regardless of all this, many pundits and fans ran with the notion that this proves Alberto hasn't been {{Misblamed}} at all, roundly decrying him as an abuser and expressing quasi-familial concern for Paige's well-being — and [[Wrestling/{{TNA}} Global Force/Impact Wrestling]] even leapt to suspend him and preempt his ''just-started world title reign'' — before the facts even began to play out. When Paige issued a statement stating she got angry over a small issue and threw a cup of beer in his face during a heated argument, the common assumption was that she was falsely incriminating herself to defend Alberto in a classic case of DV StockholmSyndrome, in spite of the fact that her statement contradicted nothing that was heard in the tape — another blatant denial of her agency as an adult human being to paint Alberto as her devil. They instead put more stock into Paige's family making accusations against both Alberto and one of her previous boyfriends, the former Wrestling/BradMaddox, despite said accusations containing timeline inconsistencies, zero evidence, and no scenario in which the family doesn't look worse.[[labelnote:*]]Paige was anywhere between 20 and 22, not a mere 18, during her relationship with Maddox — a mistake you wouldn't think her own brothers would make when talking about something so series — and the Knight family's World Association of Wrestling promoted Alberto as their main champion for four months prior to the TMZ recording. As it stands, either the Knights had evidence that the baby of the family was being abused by at least two boyfriends yet not only sat on it for years, they promoted one of said abusers as their wrestling champion, or, more likely, they DON'T have evidence and are saying this now to try to get rid of Alberto based on knee-jerk emotions or a longstanding grudge against the relationship and only made him the champion to begin with for Paige's sake.[[/labelnote]] Only a few pointed out that he might be innocent and/or that she might actually be guilty in this case; lo and behold, the ensuing police investigation has ruled him out as a suspect and is in fact leaning towards charging Paige. Thus, of all the possible conclusions one could reach prematurely as to what's been going on, the ones in which she is a purely innocent victim who never did anything wrong except getting with a dastardly abuser are largely thrown out the window — meaning, effectively, he HAS been misblamed.



* {{Narm}}: His new (and really stupid) finisher, the top rope stomp on to his opponent tied on the tree of woe. It's rather convoluted as it requires the opponent to hold on to the ropes so he can hit it properly, and it looks like something [[Wrestling/FergalDevitt Finn Bálor]] and Wrestling/SethRollins would do as an occasional signature move.

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* {{Narm}}: His The new (and really stupid) finisher, finisher he debuted after returning to WWE in 2015, the top rope stomp on to his opponent tied on the tree of woe. It's rather convoluted as it requires the opponent to hold on to the ropes so he can hit it properly, and it looks like something a stupider version of [[Wrestling/FergalDevitt Finn Bálor]] and Wrestling/SethRollins would do Bálor's]] Coup de Grâce finisher, as Bálor's version goes for simply doing it to an occasional signature move.opponent lying on the mat rather than the convulted holding on the ropes.



** EthnicScrappy: It's widely believed that Del Rio's continued (over)exposure at the top of the card during his WWE runs stems from the company's perceived need to have a Hispanic star due to an injury-prone Wrestling/ReyMysterio approaching the end of his career, as well as the mostly failed Wrestling/SinCara experiment. To make matters worse, a fair bit of this fanbase was built on the career of one Wrestling/EddieGuerrero, who, of course, had much, ''much'' more charisma than Del Rio does. El Patrón is a great subversion, however, as he has the combination of that fanbase, the lucha libre fanbase he previously knew as Dos Caras Jr., and the fanbase that likes seeing WWE get called to task when perceived to be vile or incompetent — as well as, again, much more charisma than Del Rio does.



** Look at the 12/24/12 edition of Raw and tell me that wasn't a company-wide Christmastime hazing of Alberto's character. He ''did'' run over Santa, but that was largely an accident, and Santa should've known to move away.
** His brief feud with Wrestling/{{Batista}}. Basically, his complaint with Batista was that Batista came in and stole the spotlight from him. At the time of the Royal Rumble and Batista's subsequent win, Batista had every strike in the book against him in terms of being a representation of the things that piss off a lot of people about WWE, particularly around Wrestlemania season. In any case, by the time his Elimination Chamber match with Del Rio came along (and keep in mind, this is Batista's first singles match since returning), Del Rio was getting cheers despite being the nominal Heel, and the crowd was fully in favor of his attempt to ''break Batista's arm''.

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** Look at the 12/24/12 December 24, 2012 edition of Raw ''Raw'' and tell me us that wasn't a company-wide Christmastime hazing of Alberto's character. He ''did'' run over Santa, but that was largely an accident, and Santa should've known to move away.
made even weirder by the fact that he had already done a HeelFaceTurn a little more than a week before.
** His brief feud with Wrestling/{{Batista}}. Basically, his complaint with Batista was that Batista came in and stole the spotlight from him. At the time of the Royal Rumble and Batista's subsequent win, Batista had every strike in the book against him in terms of being a representation of the things that piss off a lot of people about WWE, particularly around Wrestlemania ''[=WrestleMania=]'' season. In any case, by the time his Elimination Chamber match with Del Rio came along (and keep in mind, this is Batista's first singles match since returning), Del Rio was getting cheers despite being the nominal Heel, and the crowd was fully in favor of his attempt to ''break Batista's arm''.
22nd Jul '17 5:33:22 AM SomeoneElse17
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** July 2017 seems to be playing out as a classic example of this. TMZ recorded and released audio of an argument between Alberto and Paige at an airport around July 2017, prompting the police in Orlando, Florida to launch an investigation. In an interview with Heavy.com after the incident, one witness said Paige blamed Alberto for being verbally and physically abusive to her, as well as ruining her career. ''However'', it should be noted that on the tape itself, Alberto claimed Paige was abusive ''to him'' and declared his intent to press charges — and that as in any "he said, she said" cases, whether one or the other, or even both of them, are actually responsible is largely indeterminable. Regardless of all this, many pundits and fans ran with the notion that this proves Alberto hasn't been {{Misblamed}} at all, roundly decrying him as an abuser and expressing quasi-familial concern for Paige's well-being — and [[Wrestling/{{TNA}} Global Force/Impact Wrestling]] even leapt to suspend him and preempt his ''just-started world title reign'' — before the facts even began to play out. When Paige issued a statement stating she got angry over a small issue and threw a cup of beer in his face during a heated argument, the common assumption was that she was falsely incriminating herself to defend Alberto in a classic case of DV StockholmSyndrome, in spite of the fact that her statement contradicted nothing that was heard in the tape — another blatant denial of her agency as an adult human being to paint Alberto as her devil. They instead put more stock into Paige's family making accusations against both Alberto and one of her previous boyfriends, the former Wrestling/BradMaddox, despite said accusations containing timeline inconsistencies, zero evidence, and no scenario in which the family doesn't look worse.[[labelnote:*]]Paige was anywhere between 20 and 22, not a mere 18, during her relationship with Maddox — a mistake you wouldn't think her own brother would make — and the Knight family's World Association of Wrestling promoted Alberto as their main champion for four months prior to the TMZ recording. As it stands, either the Knights had evidence that the baby of the family was being abused by at least two boyfriends yet not only sat on it for years, they promoted one of said abusers as their wrestling champion, or, more likely, they DON'T have evidence and are saying this now to try to get rid of Alberto based on knee-jerk emotions or a longstanding grudge against the relationship and only made him the champion to begin with for Paige's sake.[[/labelnote]] Only a few pointed out that he might be innocent and/or that she might actually be guilty in this case; lo and behold, the ensuing police investigation has ruled him out as a suspect and is in fact leaning towards charging Paige. Thus, of all the possible conclusions one could reach prematurely as to what's been going on, the ones in which she is a purely innocent victim who never did anything wrong except getting with a dastardly abuser are largely thrown out the window — meaning, effectively, he HAS been misblamed.

to:

** July 2017 seems to be playing out as a classic example of this. TMZ recorded and released audio of an argument between Alberto and Paige at an airport around July 2017, prompting the police in Orlando, Florida to launch an investigation. In an interview with Heavy.com after the incident, one witness said Paige blamed Alberto for being verbally and physically abusive to her, as well as ruining her career. ''However'', it should be noted that on the tape itself, Alberto claimed Paige was abusive ''to him'' and declared his intent to press charges — and that as in any "he said, she said" cases, whether one or the other, or even both of them, are actually responsible is largely indeterminable. Regardless of all this, many pundits and fans ran with the notion that this proves Alberto hasn't been {{Misblamed}} at all, roundly decrying him as an abuser and expressing quasi-familial concern for Paige's well-being — and [[Wrestling/{{TNA}} Global Force/Impact Wrestling]] even leapt to suspend him and preempt his ''just-started world title reign'' — before the facts even began to play out. When Paige issued a statement stating she got angry over a small issue and threw a cup of beer in his face during a heated argument, the common assumption was that she was falsely incriminating herself to defend Alberto in a classic case of DV StockholmSyndrome, in spite of the fact that her statement contradicted nothing that was heard in the tape — another blatant denial of her agency as an adult human being to paint Alberto as her devil. They instead put more stock into Paige's family making accusations against both Alberto and one of her previous boyfriends, the former Wrestling/BradMaddox, despite said accusations containing timeline inconsistencies, zero evidence, and no scenario in which the family doesn't look worse.[[labelnote:*]]Paige was anywhere between 20 and 22, not a mere 18, during her relationship with Maddox — a mistake you wouldn't think her own brother brothers would make when talking about something so series — and the Knight family's World Association of Wrestling promoted Alberto as their main champion for four months prior to the TMZ recording. As it stands, either the Knights had evidence that the baby of the family was being abused by at least two boyfriends yet not only sat on it for years, they promoted one of said abusers as their wrestling champion, or, more likely, they DON'T have evidence and are saying this now to try to get rid of Alberto based on knee-jerk emotions or a longstanding grudge against the relationship and only made him the champion to begin with for Paige's sake.[[/labelnote]] Only a few pointed out that he might be innocent and/or that she might actually be guilty in this case; lo and behold, the ensuing police investigation has ruled him out as a suspect and is in fact leaning towards charging Paige. Thus, of all the possible conclusions one could reach prematurely as to what's been going on, the ones in which she is a purely innocent victim who never did anything wrong except getting with a dastardly abuser are largely thrown out the window — meaning, effectively, he HAS been misblamed.
22nd Jul '17 5:32:16 AM SomeoneElse17
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** July 2017 seems to be playing out as a classic example of this. TMZ recorded and released audio of an argument between Alberto and Paige at an airport around July 2017, prompting the police in Orlando, Florida to launch an investigation. In an interview with Heavy.com after the incident, one witness said Paige blamed Alberto for being verbally and physically abusive to her, as well as ruining her career. ''However'', it should be noted that on the tape itself, Alberto claimed Paige was abusive ''to him'' and declared his intent to press charges — and that as in any "he said, she said" cases, whether one or the other, or even both of them, are actually responsible is largely indeterminable. Regardless of all this, many pundits and fans ran with the notion that this proves Alberto hasn't been {{Misblamed}} at all, roundly decrying him as an abuser and expressing quasi-familial concern for Paige's well-being — and [[Wrestling/{{TNA}} Global Force/Impact Wrestling]] even leapt to suspend him and preempt his ''just-started world title reign'' — before the facts even began to play out. When Paige issued a statement stating she got angry over a small issue and threw a cup of beer in his face during a heated argument, the common assumption was that she was falsely incriminating herself to defend Alberto in a classic case of DV StockholmSyndrome, in spite of the fact that her statement contradicted nothing that was heard in the tape — another blatant denial of her agency as an adult human being to paint Alberto as her devil. They instead put more stock into Paige's family making accusations against both Alberto and one of her previous boyfriends, the former Wrestling/BradMaddox, despite said accusations containing timeline inconsistencies, zero evidence, and no scenario in which the family doesn't look worse.[[labelnote:*]]Paige was anywhere between 20 and 22, not a mere 18, during her relationship with Maddox — a mistake you wouldn't think her own brother would make — and the Knight family's World Association of Wrestling promoted Alberto as their main champion for four months prior to the TMZ recording. As it stands, either the Knights had evidence that the baby of the family was being abused by at least two boyfriends yet not only sat on it for years, they promoted one of said abusers as their wrestling champion, or, more likely, they DON'T have evidence and are saying this now to try to get rid of Alberto based on knee-jerk emotions or a longstanding grudge against the relationship and only made him the champion to begin with for Paige's sake.[[/labelnote]] Only a few pointed out that he might be innocent and/or that she might actually be guilty in this case; lo and behold, the ensuing police investigation has ruled him out as a suspect and is in fact leaning towards charging Paige.

to:

** July 2017 seems to be playing out as a classic example of this. TMZ recorded and released audio of an argument between Alberto and Paige at an airport around July 2017, prompting the police in Orlando, Florida to launch an investigation. In an interview with Heavy.com after the incident, one witness said Paige blamed Alberto for being verbally and physically abusive to her, as well as ruining her career. ''However'', it should be noted that on the tape itself, Alberto claimed Paige was abusive ''to him'' and declared his intent to press charges — and that as in any "he said, she said" cases, whether one or the other, or even both of them, are actually responsible is largely indeterminable. Regardless of all this, many pundits and fans ran with the notion that this proves Alberto hasn't been {{Misblamed}} at all, roundly decrying him as an abuser and expressing quasi-familial concern for Paige's well-being — and [[Wrestling/{{TNA}} Global Force/Impact Wrestling]] even leapt to suspend him and preempt his ''just-started world title reign'' — before the facts even began to play out. When Paige issued a statement stating she got angry over a small issue and threw a cup of beer in his face during a heated argument, the common assumption was that she was falsely incriminating herself to defend Alberto in a classic case of DV StockholmSyndrome, in spite of the fact that her statement contradicted nothing that was heard in the tape — another blatant denial of her agency as an adult human being to paint Alberto as her devil. They instead put more stock into Paige's family making accusations against both Alberto and one of her previous boyfriends, the former Wrestling/BradMaddox, despite said accusations containing timeline inconsistencies, zero evidence, and no scenario in which the family doesn't look worse.[[labelnote:*]]Paige was anywhere between 20 and 22, not a mere 18, during her relationship with Maddox — a mistake you wouldn't think her own brother would make — and the Knight family's World Association of Wrestling promoted Alberto as their main champion for four months prior to the TMZ recording. As it stands, either the Knights had evidence that the baby of the family was being abused by at least two boyfriends yet not only sat on it for years, they promoted one of said abusers as their wrestling champion, or, more likely, they DON'T have evidence and are saying this now to try to get rid of Alberto based on knee-jerk emotions or a longstanding grudge against the relationship and only made him the champion to begin with for Paige's sake.[[/labelnote]] Only a few pointed out that he might be innocent and/or that she might actually be guilty in this case; lo and behold, the ensuing police investigation has ruled him out as a suspect and is in fact leaning towards charging Paige. Thus, of all the possible conclusions one could reach prematurely as to what's been going on, the ones in which she is a purely innocent victim who never did anything wrong except getting with a dastardly abuser are largely thrown out the window — meaning, effectively, he HAS been misblamed.
22nd Jul '17 5:00:05 AM SomeoneElse17
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** July 2017 seems to be playing out as a classic example of this. TMZ recorded and released audio of an argument between Alberto and Paige at an airport around July 2017, prompting the police in Orlando, Florida to launch an investigation. In an interview with Heavy.com after the incident, one witness said Paige blamed Alberto for being verbally and physically abusive to her, as well as ruining her career. ''However'', it should be noted that on the tape itself, Alberto claimed Paige was abusive ''to him'' and declared his intent to press charges — and that as in any "he said, she said" cases, whether one or the other, or even both of them, are actually responsible is largely indeterminable. Regardless of all this, many pundits and fans ran with the notion that this proves Alberto hasn't been {{Misblamed}} at all, roundly decrying him as an abuser and expressing quasi-familial concern for Paige's well-being — and [[Wrestling/{{TNA}} Global Force/Impact Wrestling]] even leapt to suspend him and preempt his ''just-started world title reign'' — before the facts even began to play out. When Paige issued a statement stating she got angry over a small issue and threw a cup of beer in his face during a heated argument, the common assumption was that she was falsely incriminating herself to defend Alberto in a classic case of DV StockholmSyndrome, in spite of the fact that her statement contradicted nothing that was heard in the tape — another blatant denial of her agency as an adult human being to paint Alberto as her devil. They instead put more stock into Paige's family making accusations against both Alberto and one of her previous boyfriends, the former Wrestling/BradMaddox, despite said accusations containing timeline inconsistencies, zero evidence, and no scenario in which the family doesn't look worse.[[labelnote:*]]Paige was anywhere between 20 and 22, not a mere 18, during her relationship with Maddox — a mistake you wouldn't think her own brother would make — and the Knight family's World Association of Wrestling promoted Alberto as their main champion for four months prior to the TMZ recording. As it stands, either the Knights had evidence that the baby of the family was being abused by at least two boyfriends yet not only sat on it for years, they promoted one of said abusers as their wrestling champion, or, more likely, they DON'T have evidence and are saying this now to try to get rid of Alberto based on knee-jerk emotions or a longstanding grudge against the relationship and only made him the champion to begin with for Paige's sake.[[/note]] Only a few pointed out that he might be innocent and/or that she might actually be guilty in this case; lo and behold, the ensuing police investigation has ruled him out as a suspect and is in fact leaning towards charging Paige.

to:

** July 2017 seems to be playing out as a classic example of this. TMZ recorded and released audio of an argument between Alberto and Paige at an airport around July 2017, prompting the police in Orlando, Florida to launch an investigation. In an interview with Heavy.com after the incident, one witness said Paige blamed Alberto for being verbally and physically abusive to her, as well as ruining her career. ''However'', it should be noted that on the tape itself, Alberto claimed Paige was abusive ''to him'' and declared his intent to press charges — and that as in any "he said, she said" cases, whether one or the other, or even both of them, are actually responsible is largely indeterminable. Regardless of all this, many pundits and fans ran with the notion that this proves Alberto hasn't been {{Misblamed}} at all, roundly decrying him as an abuser and expressing quasi-familial concern for Paige's well-being — and [[Wrestling/{{TNA}} Global Force/Impact Wrestling]] even leapt to suspend him and preempt his ''just-started world title reign'' — before the facts even began to play out. When Paige issued a statement stating she got angry over a small issue and threw a cup of beer in his face during a heated argument, the common assumption was that she was falsely incriminating herself to defend Alberto in a classic case of DV StockholmSyndrome, in spite of the fact that her statement contradicted nothing that was heard in the tape — another blatant denial of her agency as an adult human being to paint Alberto as her devil. They instead put more stock into Paige's family making accusations against both Alberto and one of her previous boyfriends, the former Wrestling/BradMaddox, despite said accusations containing timeline inconsistencies, zero evidence, and no scenario in which the family doesn't look worse.[[labelnote:*]]Paige was anywhere between 20 and 22, not a mere 18, during her relationship with Maddox — a mistake you wouldn't think her own brother would make — and the Knight family's World Association of Wrestling promoted Alberto as their main champion for four months prior to the TMZ recording. As it stands, either the Knights had evidence that the baby of the family was being abused by at least two boyfriends yet not only sat on it for years, they promoted one of said abusers as their wrestling champion, or, more likely, they DON'T have evidence and are saying this now to try to get rid of Alberto based on knee-jerk emotions or a longstanding grudge against the relationship and only made him the champion to begin with for Paige's sake.[[/note]] [[/labelnote]] Only a few pointed out that he might be innocent and/or that she might actually be guilty in this case; lo and behold, the ensuing police investigation has ruled him out as a suspect and is in fact leaning towards charging Paige.
22nd Jul '17 4:59:33 AM SomeoneElse17
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** July 2017 seems to be playing out as a classic example of this. TMZ recorded and released audio of an argument between Alberto and Paige at an airport around July 2017, prompting the police in Orlando, Florida to launch an investigation. In an interview with Heavy.com after the incident, one witness said Paige blamed Alberto for being verbally and physically abusive to her, as well as ruining her career. ''However'', it should be noted that on the tape itself, Alberto claimed Paige was abusive ''to him'' and declared his intent to press charges — and that as in any "he said, she said" cases, whether one or the other, or even both of them, are actually responsible is largely indeterminable. Regardless of all this, many pundits and fans ran with the notion that this proves Alberto hasn't been {{Misblamed}} at all, roundly decrying him as an abuser and expressing quasi-familial concern for Paige's well-being before the facts even began to play out. When Paige issued a statement stating she got angry over a small issue and threw a cup of beer in his face during a heated argument, the common assumption was that she was falsely incriminating herself to defend Alberto in a classic case of DV StockholmSyndrome, in spite of the fact that her statement contradicted nothing that was heard in the tape — another blatant denial of her agency as an adult human being to paint Alberto as her devil. They instead put more stock into Paige's family making accusations against both Alberto and one of her previous boyfriends, the former Wrestling/BradMaddox, despite said accusations containing timeline inconsistencies, zero evidence, and no scenario in which the family doesn't look worse.[[labelnote:*]]Paige was anywhere between 20 and 22, not a mere 18, during her relationship with Maddox — a mistake you wouldn't think her own brother would make — and the Knight family's World Association of Wrestling promoted Alberto as their main champion for four months prior to the TMZ recording. As it stands, either the Knights had evidence that the baby of the family was being abused by at least two boyfriends yet not only sat on it for years, they promoted one of said abusers as their wrestling champion, or, more likely, they DON'T have evidence and are saying this now to try to get rid of Alberto based on knee-jerk emotions or a longstanding grudge against the relationship and only made him the champion to begin with for Paige's sake.[[/note]] Only a few pointed out that he might be innocent and/or that she might actually be guilty in this case; lo and behold, the ensuing police investigation has ruled him out as a suspect and is in fact leaning towards charging Paige.

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** July 2017 seems to be playing out as a classic example of this. TMZ recorded and released audio of an argument between Alberto and Paige at an airport around July 2017, prompting the police in Orlando, Florida to launch an investigation. In an interview with Heavy.com after the incident, one witness said Paige blamed Alberto for being verbally and physically abusive to her, as well as ruining her career. ''However'', it should be noted that on the tape itself, Alberto claimed Paige was abusive ''to him'' and declared his intent to press charges — and that as in any "he said, she said" cases, whether one or the other, or even both of them, are actually responsible is largely indeterminable. Regardless of all this, many pundits and fans ran with the notion that this proves Alberto hasn't been {{Misblamed}} at all, roundly decrying him as an abuser and expressing quasi-familial concern for Paige's well-being — and [[Wrestling/{{TNA}} Global Force/Impact Wrestling]] even leapt to suspend him and preempt his ''just-started world title reign'' — before the facts even began to play out. When Paige issued a statement stating she got angry over a small issue and threw a cup of beer in his face during a heated argument, the common assumption was that she was falsely incriminating herself to defend Alberto in a classic case of DV StockholmSyndrome, in spite of the fact that her statement contradicted nothing that was heard in the tape — another blatant denial of her agency as an adult human being to paint Alberto as her devil. They instead put more stock into Paige's family making accusations against both Alberto and one of her previous boyfriends, the former Wrestling/BradMaddox, despite said accusations containing timeline inconsistencies, zero evidence, and no scenario in which the family doesn't look worse.[[labelnote:*]]Paige was anywhere between 20 and 22, not a mere 18, during her relationship with Maddox — a mistake you wouldn't think her own brother would make — and the Knight family's World Association of Wrestling promoted Alberto as their main champion for four months prior to the TMZ recording. As it stands, either the Knights had evidence that the baby of the family was being abused by at least two boyfriends yet not only sat on it for years, they promoted one of said abusers as their wrestling champion, or, more likely, they DON'T have evidence and are saying this now to try to get rid of Alberto based on knee-jerk emotions or a longstanding grudge against the relationship and only made him the champion to begin with for Paige's sake.[[/note]] Only a few pointed out that he might be innocent and/or that she might actually be guilty in this case; lo and behold, the ensuing police investigation has ruled him out as a suspect and is in fact leaning towards charging Paige.
22nd Jul '17 4:55:36 AM SomeoneElse17
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** Del Rio may not even be entirely {{Misblamed}} at all, if a witness to a recent altercation is to be believed. Basically, TMZ recorded audio of Del Rio and Paige arguing at an airport, with police now being involved in an investigation. In an interview with Heavy.com after the incident, the witness said Paige blamed Del Rio for being verbally and physically abusive to her, as well as ruining her career. ''However'', it should be noted Del Rio also claimed Paige was abusive ''to him'', plus he was the one who declared an intent to press charges. As in any "he said, she said" cases, whether one or the other, or even both of them, are actually responsible is largely indeterminable.

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** Del Rio may not even be entirely {{Misblamed}} at all, if a witness to a recent altercation is July 2017 seems to be believed. Basically, playing out as a classic example of this. TMZ recorded and released audio of Del Rio an argument between Alberto and Paige arguing at an airport, with airport around July 2017, prompting the police now being involved in Orlando, Florida to launch an investigation. In an interview with Heavy.com after the incident, the one witness said Paige blamed Del Rio Alberto for being verbally and physically abusive to her, as well as ruining her career. ''However'', it should be noted Del Rio also that on the tape itself, Alberto claimed Paige was abusive ''to him'', plus he was the one who him'' and declared an his intent to press charges. As charges — and that as in any "he said, she said" cases, whether one or the other, or even both of them, are actually responsible is largely indeterminable.indeterminable. Regardless of all this, many pundits and fans ran with the notion that this proves Alberto hasn't been {{Misblamed}} at all, roundly decrying him as an abuser and expressing quasi-familial concern for Paige's well-being before the facts even began to play out. When Paige issued a statement stating she got angry over a small issue and threw a cup of beer in his face during a heated argument, the common assumption was that she was falsely incriminating herself to defend Alberto in a classic case of DV StockholmSyndrome, in spite of the fact that her statement contradicted nothing that was heard in the tape — another blatant denial of her agency as an adult human being to paint Alberto as her devil. They instead put more stock into Paige's family making accusations against both Alberto and one of her previous boyfriends, the former Wrestling/BradMaddox, despite said accusations containing timeline inconsistencies, zero evidence, and no scenario in which the family doesn't look worse.[[labelnote:*]]Paige was anywhere between 20 and 22, not a mere 18, during her relationship with Maddox — a mistake you wouldn't think her own brother would make — and the Knight family's World Association of Wrestling promoted Alberto as their main champion for four months prior to the TMZ recording. As it stands, either the Knights had evidence that the baby of the family was being abused by at least two boyfriends yet not only sat on it for years, they promoted one of said abusers as their wrestling champion, or, more likely, they DON'T have evidence and are saying this now to try to get rid of Alberto based on knee-jerk emotions or a longstanding grudge against the relationship and only made him the champion to begin with for Paige's sake.[[/note]] Only a few pointed out that he might be innocent and/or that she might actually be guilty in this case; lo and behold, the ensuing police investigation has ruled him out as a suspect and is in fact leaning towards charging Paige.



** EthnicScrappy: It's widely believed that Del Rio's continued (over)exposure at the top of the card stems from WWE's perceived need to have a Hispanic star due to an injury-prone Wrestling/ReyMysterio approaching the end of his career, as well as the mostly failed Wrestling/SinCara experiment. To make matters worse, a fair bit of this fanbase was built on the career of one Wrestling/EddieGuerrero, who, of course, had much, ''much'' more charisma than Del Rio does. El Patrón is a great subversion, however, as he has the combination of that fanbase, the lucha libre fanbase he previously knew as Dos Caras Jr., and the fanbase that likes seeing WWE get called to task when perceived to be vile or incompetent—as well as, again, much more charisma than Del Rio does.

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** EthnicScrappy: It's widely believed that Del Rio's continued (over)exposure at the top of the card during his WWE runs stems from WWE's the company's perceived need to have a Hispanic star due to an injury-prone Wrestling/ReyMysterio approaching the end of his career, as well as the mostly failed Wrestling/SinCara experiment. To make matters worse, a fair bit of this fanbase was built on the career of one Wrestling/EddieGuerrero, who, of course, had much, ''much'' more charisma than Del Rio does. El Patrón is a great subversion, however, as he has the combination of that fanbase, the lucha libre fanbase he previously knew as Dos Caras Jr., and the fanbase that likes seeing WWE get called to task when perceived to be vile or incompetent—as incompetent — as well as, again, much more charisma than Del Rio does.
14th Jul '17 3:04:21 AM SomeoneElse17
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** Del Rio may not even be entirely {{Misblamed}} at all, if a witness to a recent altercation is to be believed. Basically, TMZ recorded audio of Del Rio and Paige arguing at an airport, with police now being involved in an investigation. In an interview with Heavy.com after the incident, the witness said Paige blamed Del Rio for being verbally and physically abusive to her, as well as ruining her career. ''However'', it should be noted Del Rio also claimed Paige was abusive ''to him''. As in any "he said, she said" cases, whether one or the other, or even both of them, are actually responsible is largely indeterminable.

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** Del Rio may not even be entirely {{Misblamed}} at all, if a witness to a recent altercation is to be believed. Basically, TMZ recorded audio of Del Rio and Paige arguing at an airport, with police now being involved in an investigation. In an interview with Heavy.com after the incident, the witness said Paige blamed Del Rio for being verbally and physically abusive to her, as well as ruining her career. ''However'', it should be noted Del Rio also claimed Paige was abusive ''to him''.him'', plus he was the one who declared an intent to press charges. As in any "he said, she said" cases, whether one or the other, or even both of them, are actually responsible is largely indeterminable.
11th Jul '17 11:43:50 AM UnSubSandwich
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** Del Rio may not even be entirely {{Misblamed}} at all, if a witness to a recent altercation is to be believed. Basically, TMZ recorded audio of Del Rio and Paige arguing at an airport, with police now being involved in an investigation. In an interview with Heavy.com after the incident, the witness said Paige blamed Del Rio for being verbally and physically abusive to her, as well as ruining her career. ''However'', it should be noted Del Rio also claimed Paige was abusive ''to him''. As in any "he said, she said" cases, whether one or the other, or even both of them, are actually responsible is largely indeterminable.
12th Feb '17 8:13:00 PM overman2099
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* CriticalDissonance: WWE audiences tend to be apathetic towards anything Alberto does in the ring and the IWC tends to be much more critical of him, both as a performer and a person. However, whenever Alberto is involved in the independent scene like with LuchaUnderground or WCPW, he's massively over with the fans and able to fire up the crowd like he's the second coming of Daniel Bryan.
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