History YMMV / AgarestSenki

9th Aug '16 5:22:26 AM BigKlingy
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** There is a bit of rivalry with ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' fans, especially from [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening]]. They accuse Agarest franchise of being nothing more than a fanservice game with a generic turn based battle system, while Agarest fans accuse ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' and ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'' of copying ideas from the franchise, like the marriage system.

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** There is a bit of rivalry with ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' fans, especially from [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening]]. They accuse Agarest franchise of being nothing more than a fanservice game with a generic turn based battle system, while Agarest fans accuse ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' and ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'' of copying ideas from the franchise, like the marriage system.[[labelnote:note]]Crosses into CriticalResearchFailure there, as Fire Emblem's marriage system originated with ''Geneology of the Holy War'' on SNES, much earlier than ''Awakening'' or ''Fates''[[/labelnote]]
27th May '16 6:13:38 PM mizorefan
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* FandomRivalry:
** With ''VideoGame/{{Neptunia}}'', since almost all games from both franchises were co-developed by ''Creator/CompileHeart'' and Neptunia is presumaly one of the reasons of the death of Agarest franchise, since [[OvershadowedByAwesome Neptunia was (and still is) a huge hit in comparison with the former during the time both had regular releases]].
** There is a bit of rivalry with ''VideoGame/FireEmblem'' fans, especially from [[VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening Awakening]]. They accuse Agarest franchise of being nothing more than a fanservice game with a generic turn based battle system, while Agarest fans accuse ''VideoGame/FireEmblemAwakening'' and ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'' of copying ideas from the franchise, like the marriage system.
16th May '16 8:38:44 PM Angeldeb82
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* CanonSue: Rex, in fact one of Nico Nico Douga MC comments "This guy is too perfect!"



* TheUntwist: Seriously, who wouldn't suspect [[spoiler: [[ObviouslyEvil Vashtor to be evil?]]]]

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* TheUntwist: Seriously, who wouldn't suspect [[spoiler: [[ObviouslyEvil Vashtor to be evil?]]]]evil]]]]?
4th Jan '16 5:48:17 PM hamza678
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!!Agarest Zero
* BaseBreaker: Linda is one of the most popular brides in the series in Japan, and yet gets quite a bit of hate in the US for being a {{Jerkass}} and forced as Sieghart's {{Love Interest|s}}.
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Eugene is probably the most popular character from the game.
** As far as the brides go, Dana is quite popular as well.
** DECIMAL!
* HoYay: Sieghart and Eugene have quite a bit of this, which doesn't go unnoticed by the rest of the party.
** Sieghart and Vashtor also have a generous amount of it as well
* ItsTheSameNowItSucks: A common complaint.
* MemeticBadass: Decimal. This is a chicken who beat a GURG!
* {{Narm}}: The one weapon that can defeat the gurgs, is Werdefahrt. Try saying that without cracking up poop jokes.
* TheWoobie: Pretty much every party member is one in some way.
** JerkassWoobie: Eugene may be an ass, but considering what his life was like before meeting Sieghart, his attitude is pretty understandable.
** Vashtor also becomes a huge one, especially if one considers his role in the first game after paying this.

!!Agarest Senki 2
* EnsembleDarkhorse: Victoria
* EvenBetterSequel
* GameBreaker: Arc-en-ciel, this skill is basically the reason why this game never crossed the NintendoHard line.
** No Fear EX Skill plus a ''really'' high vitality stat = almost no enemy can kill you at all. Pair it up with some Change HP Up+ and enemies might as well not even bother trying to kill you at all.
* HilariousInHindsight: Creator/KanaUeda voices the high elf Ellis in the first game. Fair enough. In Agarest 2 [[Creator/KanaAsumi Another]] [[NamesTheSame Kana]] voices the high elf Fiona. And you can have them both in the same party. Too bad no combination attack with Ellis and Fiona.
** Speaking of Fiona since she is a marriage option, [[Creator/KanaAsumi guess who]] [[http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-01-14/hidamari-sketch-voice-actress-kana-asumi-gets-married got married.]]
* MemeticBadass: The "Fairy" {{Mook|s}}. [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHL9fYlYb88&feature=related Here's why.]]
* MoralEventHorizon: [[spoiler:Danaos]] ''sprints with it.'' He was a pretty decent guy in the first generation (seeing as you don't do much in [[spoiler:Graccea]] at that point), but once generation two starts rolling in, he tricks the party to do a long FetchQuest for him, [[spoiler: uses his daughter as a way to kill the party, drugs Luster to morph into a monster, kills Gideon just because he can, and kicks Melvina around whenever she fails her mission. All to summon Summerill at Aegisthus.]]
* NightmareFuel: [[spoiler: Eva's dream sequence where the darkness is invading her ''entire body''. You could not help but scream tentacle rape with this CG.]]
* TearJerker: [[spoiler: Jainus' HeroicSacrifice. That is all.]]
** [[spoiler: Rasta's death. You will cry because he really didn't deserve any of this and that he had to die by Yumil's hand.]]
* TheWoobie: [[spoiler: Chaos in a nutshell really. Let's see, he happens to be the leader of the dark gods who really just wants to be with Varna but Lenion gets to marry her first. Heartbroken, and being taken advantaged of Mobius to start the war, he gets defeated and sealed in the Zaint Luke pillar for ''a really long time''.]]
** Yumil gets a pretty shitty hand dealt to her too. First off, her parents die when she' ten. Then she's engaged to her brother, and while she admits that she does love him, it's not in the romantic sense and she's only going through with it out of a sense of duty. Said brother falls ill, so she goes out to look for a cure. She discovers she's a Maiden of the Pillar, which in Eva's words makes her nothing more than a brood mare for "the vessel's" pleasure. When she does bring her brother the cure, [[spoiler:it goes horribly, horribly wrong and turns him into a demon she and the party are forced to put down. And then her clan kicks her out, after refusing to take responsibility for their part in his death.]]
* ThatOneBoss: [[spoiler: Sophia and her golem is one in the third generation, but only if you were unprepared for the fact that you lose '''''four''' party members'' in this fight and if you rely on them too much: Janus makes a HeroicSacrifice, Fiona gets a DamselInDistress moment, Eva is still recovering from a HeroicBSOD, and Sophia is the one you're fighting against.]] Needless to say, if you did not have a back up save, and a back up party to replace the four of them, you might as well restart the game. This battle is still considered as a BossRush too. What this means is that whatever HP you had from the last boss fight, your HP is still going to be the same in this fight.
2nd Sep '15 9:23:43 PM Apocrypha
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** Silvi.

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** Silvi.Silvi, for being a kind, peppy idealist who still manages to be grounded in reality, providing a good contrast to the cynical Duran, and for [[spoiler:flying ''into a storm'' and '''fighting a''' '''[[DemonicSpiders Garvel]]''', ''by herself'', to save Duran's life]]. She's easily the most-often picked of the fourth generation brides.



** Murmina.

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** Murmina. Her [[DarkAndTroubledPast traumatic backstory]], extreme [[TheWoobie huggability]], and CharacterDevelopment endeared her to fans quickly.



** Ladius and Duran are easily the least popular Raglens. Ladius due to being seen as a bland character in a boring re-hash of the first generation and Duran for being a whiny {{Jerkass}}.

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** Ladius and Duran are is easily the least popular Raglens. Ladius Raglens, due to being seen as a bland character in a boring re-hash of the first generation and Duran for being a whiny {{Jerkass}}.generation.
7th Jun '15 10:12:56 PM GoldenSeals
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** Keith to some people due to the fact that [[spoiler: Ellis gets kidnapped by Vashtor]].

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** Keith to some people due to the fact that because [[spoiler: Ellis gets kidnapped by Vashtor]].Vashtor kidnaps Ellis]].
14th May '15 6:10:57 PM crazyrabbits
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* [[HoYay Les Yay]]: Not quite but [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oZ-bvXWutQ this]] reminds me of it so so much.

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* [[HoYay Les Yay]]: Not quite but Yay]]:
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[[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oZ-bvXWutQ this]] reminds me of it so so much.This]] scene heavily hints at it.
3rd Mar '15 9:27:45 PM Mr.French
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* TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot: While the quality of the series is a hotly debated topic, it is generally agreed that the idea of a generational spanning adventure that translates into gameplay was mishandled.
8th Feb '15 11:47:43 PM Apocrypha
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** Yumil gets a pretty shitty hand dealt to her too. First off, her parents die when she' ten. Then she's engaged to her brother, and while she admits that she does love him, it's not in the romantic sense and she's only going through with it out of a sense of duty. Said brother falls ill, so she goes out to look for a cure. She discovers she's a Maiden of the Pillar, which in Eva's words makes her nothing more than a brood mare for "the vessel's" pleasure. When she does bring her brother the cure, [[spoiler:it goes horribly, horribly wrong and turns him into a demon she and the party are forced to put down. And then her clan kicks her out, after refusing to take responsibility for their part in his death.]]
8th Feb '15 11:36:55 PM Apocrypha
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** Rex

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** RexRex.
** Duran. You either love him for [[ItSucksToBeTheChosenOne his gritty, realistic look on the harshness of his situation]] and CharacterDevelopment, or hate him for being a whiny {{Jerkass}} before said development kicks in.
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