History YMMV / AceVentura

14th Aug '16 7:10:33 AM LadyYuki
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* TearJerker: That first scene in the sequel when [[spoiler:a raccoon Ace was determined to save breaks loose and falls]]. (It's funnier if you've seen ''{{Film/Cliffhanger}}'', which the scene parodies.)

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* TearJerker: That first scene in the sequel when [[spoiler:a raccoon Ace was determined to save breaks loose and falls]]. (It's funnier if you've seen ''{{Film/Cliffhanger}}'', which It's supposed to be a parody of the opening of ''{{Film/Cliffhanger}}'' but for some people this doesn't help to make the scene parodies.)funny at all.
24th Jul '16 9:29:33 AM Anddrix
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* DracoInLeatherPants: As mentioned under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, Ray Finkele/[[spoiler:Lois Einhorn]] tends to get empathy from people who see him/[[spoiler:her]] as transgender, mostly stemming from the RealitySubtext of the injustices towards real-life trans people, ignoring the fact that he/[[spoiler:she]] is a murderous lunatic who [[spoiler:transitioned]] not because [[spoiler:he was a woman who was assigned the male gender at birth]], but as a front for a revenge scheme. On the other hand, see UnintentionallySympathetic.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: As mentioned under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, Ray Finkele/[[spoiler:Lois Einhorn]] tends to get empathy from people who see him/[[spoiler:her]] as transgender, mostly stemming from the RealitySubtext of the injustices towards real-life trans people, ignoring the fact that he/[[spoiler:she]] is a murderous lunatic who [[spoiler:transitioned]] not because [[spoiler:he was a woman who was assigned the male gender at birth]], but as a front for a revenge scheme. On the other hand, see UnintentionallySympathetic.
24th Jul '16 9:22:58 AM NWolfman
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* DracoInLeatherPants: As mentioned under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, Ray Finkele/[[spoiler:Lois Einhorn]] tends to get empathy from people who see him/[[spoiler:her]] as transgender, mostly stemming from the RealitySubtext of the injustices towards real-life trans people rather than the fact that he/[[spoiler:she]] is a murderous lunatic who [[spoiler:transitioned]] not because [[spoiler:he was a woman who was assigned the male gender at birth]], but as a front for a revenge scheme. On the other hand, see UnintentionallySympathetic.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: As mentioned under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, Ray Finkele/[[spoiler:Lois Einhorn]] tends to get empathy from people who see him/[[spoiler:her]] as transgender, mostly stemming from the RealitySubtext of the injustices towards real-life trans people rather than people, ignoring the fact that he/[[spoiler:she]] is a murderous lunatic who [[spoiler:transitioned]] not because [[spoiler:he was a woman who was assigned the male gender at birth]], but as a front for a revenge scheme. On the other hand, see UnintentionallySympathetic.
24th Jul '16 9:22:04 AM NWolfman
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Related to AlternativeCharacterInterpretation. Ray Finkele is clearly [[UnintentionallySympathetic a screwed up guy]] who's been driven to murderous insanity by years of [[DisproportionateRetribution undeserved public shaming]], all because [[NeverLiveItDown he simply missed field goal]]. But let's be clear: he became Lois Einhorn ''not'' because [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} he was a woman who was assigned the male gender at birth]], but as a front for his revenge scheme.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Related to AlternativeCharacterInterpretation. As mentioned under AlternativeCharacterInterpretation, Ray Finkele Finkele/[[spoiler:Lois Einhorn]] tends to get empathy from people who see him/[[spoiler:her]] as transgender, mostly stemming from the RealitySubtext of the injustices towards real-life trans people rather than the fact that he/[[spoiler:she]] is clearly [[UnintentionallySympathetic a screwed up guy]] who's been driven to murderous insanity by years of [[DisproportionateRetribution undeserved public shaming]], all lunatic who [[spoiler:transitioned]] not because [[NeverLiveItDown he simply missed field goal]]. But let's be clear: he became Lois Einhorn ''not'' because [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} he [[spoiler:he was a woman who was assigned the male gender at birth]], but as a front for his a revenge scheme.scheme. On the other hand, see UnintentionallySympathetic.



* HarsherInHindsight: Ace's "Einhorn is a man!" freakout in light in light of the Gay Panic defence and several high profile murders of transwomen by their lovers when said lovers found out about their transition.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Ace's "Einhorn is a man!" freakout in light in light of the Gay Panic defence defense and several high profile murders of transwomen by their lovers when said lovers found out about their transition.
24th Jul '16 9:16:07 AM NWolfman
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* DracoInLeatherPants: Related to AlternativeCharacterInterpretation. Ray Finkele is clearly [[UnintentionallySympathetic a screwed up guy]] who's been driven to murderous insanity by years of [[DisproportionateRetribution undeserved public shaming]], all because [[NeverLiveItDown he simply missed field goal]]. But let's be clear: he became Lois Einhorn ''not'' because [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} he was a woman who was assigned the male gender at birth]], but as a front for his revenge scheme.



* MisaimedFandom: Related to AlternativeCharacterInterpretation. Ray Finkele is clearly [[UnintentionallySympathetic a screwed up guy]] who's been driven to murderous insanity by years of [[DisproportionateRetribution undeserved public shaming]], all because [[NeverLiveItDown he simply missed field goal]]. But let's be clear: he became Lois Einhorn ''not'' because [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} he was a woman who was assigned the male gender at birth]], but as a front for his revenge scheme.
24th Jul '16 9:15:22 AM NWolfman
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*** Ironically, Ace was at least partially inspired by a character Jim Carrey played on ''Series/InLivingColor'' called The Overly Confident [[spoiler:Gay]] Man.
24th Jul '16 9:13:38 AM NWolfman
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** More "Alternative Joke Interpretation," but is Ray Finkle ''just'' UnintentionallySympathetic, or is his resulting insanity from public shaming a [[TakeThat jab]] at obsessive sports fans?
7th Jun '16 11:42:43 AM NWolfman
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* ValuesDissonance: [[UnsettlingGenderReveal The "Einhorn is a man" gag]]. Back in 1994 it was, at best, a cheep laugh and at worst juvenile and mean-spirited. But after 20+ years of increased visibility for transgendered rights and the "trans panic" defense being seriously called into question, it comes off as outright cruel. Even Tom Shadyack's already [[WordOfGod questionable defense]] that the gag was more at Ace's expense (that he's tough enough to catch bullets in his teeth but [[DeliberateValuesDissonance goes to pieces from kissing a man]]) wears rather thin.

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* ValuesDissonance: [[UnsettlingGenderReveal The "Einhorn is a man" gag]]. Back in 1994 it was, at best, a cheep laugh and at worst juvenile and mean-spirited. But after 20+ years of increased visibility for transgendered rights and the "trans panic" defense being seriously called into question, it comes off as outright downright cruel. Even Tom Shadyack's already [[WordOfGod questionable defense]] that the gag was more at Ace's expense (that he's tough enough to catch bullets in his teeth but [[DeliberateValuesDissonance goes to pieces from kissing a man]]) wears rather thin.
26th May '16 6:27:29 PM NWolfman
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* MisaimedFandom: Related to AlternativeCharacterInterpretation. Ray Finkele is clearly [[UnintentionallySympathetic a screwed up guy]] who's been driven to murderous insanity by years of [[DisproportionateRetribution undeserved public shaming]], all because [[NeverLiveItDown he simply missed field goal]]. But let's be clear: he became Lois Einhorn ''not'' because [[UsefulNotes/{{Transgender}} he was a woman who was assigned the male gender at birth]], but as a front for his revenge scheme.
26th May '16 1:32:04 PM Anddrix
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* ValuesDissonance: [[UnsettlingGenderReveal The "Einhorn is a man" gag]]. Back in 1994 it was, at best, a cheep laugh and at worst juvenile and mean-spirited. But after 20+ years of increased visibility for transgendered rights and the "trans panic" defense being seriously called into question, it comes off as [[DudeNotFunny outright cruel]]. Even Tom Shadyack's already [[WordOfGod questionable defense]] that the gag was more at Ace's expense (that he's tough enough to catch bullets in his teeth but [[DeliberateValuesDissonance goes to pieces from kissing a man]]) wears rather thin.

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* ValuesDissonance: [[UnsettlingGenderReveal The "Einhorn is a man" gag]]. Back in 1994 it was, at best, a cheep laugh and at worst juvenile and mean-spirited. But after 20+ years of increased visibility for transgendered rights and the "trans panic" defense being seriously called into question, it comes off as [[DudeNotFunny outright cruel]].cruel. Even Tom Shadyack's already [[WordOfGod questionable defense]] that the gag was more at Ace's expense (that he's tough enough to catch bullets in his teeth but [[DeliberateValuesDissonance goes to pieces from kissing a man]]) wears rather thin.
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