History YMMV / AceVentura

2nd Sep '17 4:24:48 PM Mullon
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* CriticalDissonance: The first film was widely panned by critics. Creator/RogerEbert and Creator/GeneSiskel went as far as declaring that Creator/JimCarrey would never have a career as a movie star ([[HeReallyCanAct though they'd eat their words]] after watching him in ''Film/TheTrumanShow'').

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* CriticalDissonance: The first film was widely panned by critics. Creator/RogerEbert and Creator/GeneSiskel went as far as declaring that Creator/JimCarrey would never have a career as a movie star ([[HeReallyCanAct though they'd eat their words]] after watching him in ''Film/TheTrumanShow''). But audiences found the movie hilarious, and between it, ''Film/TheMask'' and ''Film/DumbAndDumber'' Jim Carrey became the highest paid actor in Hollywood for a while.



* DracoInLeatherPants: Ray Finkele/[[spoiler:Lois Einhorn]] tends to get empathy from people who see him/[[spoiler:her]] as transgender, mostly stemming from the RealitySubtext of the injustices towards real-life trans people, ignoring the fact that he/[[spoiler:she]] is a murderous lunatic who [[spoiler:transitioned]] not because [[spoiler:he was a woman who was assigned the male gender at birth]], but as a front for a revenge scheme.

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* DracoInLeatherPants: Ray Finkele/[[spoiler:Lois Einhorn]] tends to get empathy from people who see him/[[spoiler:her]] him/her as transgender, mostly stemming from the RealitySubtext of the injustices towards real-life trans people, ignoring the fact that he/[[spoiler:she]] he/she is a murderous lunatic who [[spoiler:transitioned]] not because [[spoiler:he was a woman who was assigned the male gender at birth]], but as a front for a revenge scheme.scheme related only to his/her failed sports career.



* HarsherInHindsight: Ace's "Einhorn is a man!" freakout in light in light of the Gay Panic defense and several high profile murders of transwomen by their lovers when said lovers found out about their transition.

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* HarsherInHindsight: Ace's [[spoiler: "Einhorn is a man!" freakout in light freakout]] in light of the Gay Panic defense and several high profile murders of transwomen by their lovers when said lovers found out about their transition.



* JerkassWoobie: Ray Finkle/Lois Einhorn.

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* JerkassWoobie: Ray Finkle/Lois Einhorn.Finkle[[spoiler:/Lois Einhorn]].



** Finkle/Einhorn became memetic enough to get its own ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' NPC.

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** Finkle/Einhorn [[spoiler: Finkle/Einhorn]] became memetic enough to get its own ''VideoGame/WorldOfWarcraft'' NPC.



* {{Sequelitis}}: The second movie is often found inferior, particularly for relying on more ToiletHumor.

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* RetroactiveRecognition: Ace's landlord is [[Series/BreakingBad Hector]] [[Series/BetterCallSaul Salamanca]].
* {{Sequelitis}}: The second movie is often found inferior, particularly for relying on more ToiletHumor.ToiletHumor and making Ace more of a {{Jerkass}}.



** Ace's reaction to finding out that [[spoiler:Einhorn is really Ray Finkle]].
** The scene in the second movie where his fake rhino has the air conditioner fail, forcing him to stick his head out and when it does people watching the Rhino are shocked to see a Rhino give birth to Ace. Did we mention that ''he was naked at the time''? (The scene actually gets cut in some broadcasts of the movie.)

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** Ace's reaction to finding out that [[spoiler:Einhorn is really Ray Finkle]].
Finkle]] makes him take a completely naked really pathetic ShowerOfAngst and chew an entire package of gum.
** The scene in the second movie where his fake rhino has the rhino's air conditioner fail, fails, forcing him to stick his head out out, and when it does people watching the Rhino rhino are shocked to see a Rhino rhino give birth to Ace. Did we mention that ''he was ''he's naked at the time''? (The The scene actually gets cut in some broadcasts of the movie.)



* ValuesDissonance: [[UnsettlingGenderReveal The "Einhorn is a man" gag]]. Back in 1994 it was, at best, a cheap laugh and at worst juvenile and mean-spirited. But after 20+ years of increased visibility for transgender rights and the "trans panic" defense being seriously called into question, it comes off as deliberately cruel. Even Tom Shadyac's already [[WordOfGod questionable defense]] that the gag was more at Ace's expense (that he's tough enough to catch bullets in his teeth but [[DeliberateValuesDissonance goes to pieces from kissing a man]]) wears rather thin.

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* ValuesDissonance: [[spoiler: [[UnsettlingGenderReveal The "Einhorn is a man" gag]]. gag]].]] Back in 1994 it was, at best, a cheap laugh and at worst juvenile and mean-spirited. But after 20+ years of increased visibility for transgender rights and the "trans panic" defense being seriously called into question, it comes off as deliberately cruel. Even Tom Shadyac's already [[WordOfGod questionable defense]] that the gag was more at Ace's expense (that he's tough enough to catch bullets in his teeth but [[DeliberateValuesDissonance goes to pieces from kissing a man]]) wears rather thin.
16th Aug '17 11:10:40 PM NWolfman
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* ValuesDissonance: [[UnsettlingGenderReveal The "Einhorn is a man" gag]]. Back in 1994 it was, at best, a cheap laugh and at worst juvenile and mean-spirited. But after 20+ years of increased visibility for transgender rights and the "trans panic" defense being seriously called into question, it comes off as deliberately cruel. Even Tom Shadyac's already [[WordOfGod questionable defense]] that the gag was more at Ace's expense (that he's tough enough to catch bullets in his teeth but [[DeliberateValuesDissonance goes to pieces from kissing a man]]) wears rather thin. On the other hand one does not have to be a homophobe to be grossed out at the idea of kissing another man.
** There's also the fact that Ray Finkle is a murderous psychopath [[spoiler:and Ace inadvertently french kissed him, which is probably more disturbing than just kissing another man.]]

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* ValuesDissonance: [[UnsettlingGenderReveal The "Einhorn is a man" gag]]. Back in 1994 it was, at best, a cheap laugh and at worst juvenile and mean-spirited. But after 20+ years of increased visibility for transgender rights and the "trans panic" defense being seriously called into question, it comes off as deliberately cruel. Even Tom Shadyac's already [[WordOfGod questionable defense]] that the gag was more at Ace's expense (that he's tough enough to catch bullets in his teeth but [[DeliberateValuesDissonance goes to pieces from kissing a man]]) wears rather thin. On the other hand one does not have to be a homophobe to be grossed out at the idea of kissing another man.\n** There's also the fact that Ray Finkle is a murderous psychopath [[spoiler:and Ace inadvertently french kissed him, which is probably more disturbing than just kissing another man.]]
16th Aug '17 11:06:54 PM NWolfman
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Okay, as homo[=/=]transphobic as it is, Ace freaking out when he discovers that [[spoiler:Einhorn is actually a man]] is still pretty hilarious thanks to Carrey ChewingTheScenery.

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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Okay, as homo[=/=]transphobic Homo[=/=]transphobic as it is, may be, Ace freaking out when he discovers that just ''[[ChewingTheScenery imploding]]'' over the discovery is [[spoiler:Einhorn is actually a man]] is still pretty hilarious thanks arguably saves the joke from being completely unfunny all these years later. If helps if you go by WordOfGod that it's meant to Carrey ChewingTheScenery.show the irony of how the simple act of [[spoiler:kissing a man]] can destroy someone as badass as Ace.
4th Aug '17 1:14:30 AM RockySamson
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**There's also the fact that Ray Finkle is a murderous psychopath [[spoiler:and Ace inadvertently french kissed him, which is probably more disturbing than just kissing another man.]]
25th Jul '17 5:03:39 PM ngh93
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* ValuesDissonance: [[UnsettlingGenderReveal The "Einhorn is a man" gag]]. Back in 1994 it was, at best, a cheap laugh and at worst juvenile and mean-spirited. But after 20+ years of increased visibility for transgender rights and the "trans panic" defense being seriously called into question, it comes off as deliberately cruel. Even Tom Shadyack's already [[WordOfGod questionable defense]] that the gag was more at Ace's expense (that he's tough enough to catch bullets in his teeth but [[DeliberateValuesDissonance goes to pieces from kissing a man]]) wears rather thin. On the other hand one does not have to be a homophobe to be grossed out at the idea of kissing another man.

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* ValuesDissonance: [[UnsettlingGenderReveal The "Einhorn is a man" gag]]. Back in 1994 it was, at best, a cheap laugh and at worst juvenile and mean-spirited. But after 20+ years of increased visibility for transgender rights and the "trans panic" defense being seriously called into question, it comes off as deliberately cruel. Even Tom Shadyack's Shadyac's already [[WordOfGod questionable defense]] that the gag was more at Ace's expense (that he's tough enough to catch bullets in his teeth but [[DeliberateValuesDissonance goes to pieces from kissing a man]]) wears rather thin. On the other hand one does not have to be a homophobe to be grossed out at the idea of kissing another man.
9th Jul '17 9:47:13 PM TheJayman49
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* CrossesTheLineTwice: Okay, as homo[=/=]transphobic as it is, Ace freaking out when he discovers that [[spoiler:Einhorn is actually a man]] is still pretty hilarious thanks to Carrey ChewingTheScenery.
6th Jun '17 2:55:06 PM Shadowgazer
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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ray Finkle. Really, all the poor guy did was miss a field goal. Did he really deserve to have his career ruined and be branded a pariah by his ''entire hometown''? It's even worse when you see that his parents also suffered serious trauma from the fallout, with his father now paranoid to the point of answering the door armed with a shotgun and his mother clearly driven to permanent insanity.
* ValuesDissonance: [[UnsettlingGenderReveal The "Einhorn is a man" gag]]. Back in 1994 it was, at best, a cheap laugh and at worst juvenile and mean-spirited. But after 20+ years of increased visibility for transgender rights and the "trans panic" defense being seriously called into question, it comes off as deliberately cruel. Even Tom Shadyack's already [[WordOfGod questionable defense]] that the gag was more at Ace's expense (that he's tough enough to catch bullets in his teeth but [[DeliberateValuesDissonance goes to pieces from kissing a man]]) wears rather thin.

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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Ray Finkle.Finkle though how unintentional it was considering his background is open for debate. Really, all the poor guy did was miss a field goal. Did he really deserve to have his career ruined and be branded a pariah by his ''entire hometown''? It's even worse when you see that his parents also suffered serious trauma from the fallout, with his father now paranoid to the point of answering the door armed with a shotgun and his mother clearly driven to permanent insanity.
* ValuesDissonance: [[UnsettlingGenderReveal The "Einhorn is a man" gag]]. Back in 1994 it was, at best, a cheap laugh and at worst juvenile and mean-spirited. But after 20+ years of increased visibility for transgender rights and the "trans panic" defense being seriously called into question, it comes off as deliberately cruel. Even Tom Shadyack's already [[WordOfGod questionable defense]] that the gag was more at Ace's expense (that he's tough enough to catch bullets in his teeth but [[DeliberateValuesDissonance goes to pieces from kissing a man]]) wears rather thin. On the other hand one does not have to be a homophobe to be grossed out at the idea of kissing another man.
19th Mar '17 7:17:30 PM ScoutFirefly
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* ValuesDissonance: [[UnsettlingGenderReveal The "Einhorn is a man" gag]]. Back in 1994 it was, at best, a cheap laugh and at worst juvenile and mean-spirited. But after 20+ years of increased visibility for transgendered rights and the "trans panic" defense being seriously called into question, it comes off as deliberately cruel. Even Tom Shadyack's already [[WordOfGod questionable defense]] that the gag was more at Ace's expense (that he's tough enough to catch bullets in his teeth but [[DeliberateValuesDissonance goes to pieces from kissing a man]]) wears rather thin.

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* ValuesDissonance: [[UnsettlingGenderReveal The "Einhorn is a man" gag]]. Back in 1994 it was, at best, a cheap laugh and at worst juvenile and mean-spirited. But after 20+ years of increased visibility for transgendered transgender rights and the "trans panic" defense being seriously called into question, it comes off as deliberately cruel. Even Tom Shadyack's already [[WordOfGod questionable defense]] that the gag was more at Ace's expense (that he's tough enough to catch bullets in his teeth but [[DeliberateValuesDissonance goes to pieces from kissing a man]]) wears rather thin.
24th Feb '17 1:35:52 AM CumbersomeTercel
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* ValuesDissonance: [[UnsettlingGenderReveal The "Einhorn is a man" gag]]. Back in 1994 it was, at best, a cheep laugh and at worst juvenile and mean-spirited. But after 20+ years of increased visibility for transgendered rights and the "trans panic" defense being seriously called into question, it comes off as deliberately cruel. Even Tom Shadyack's already [[WordOfGod questionable defense]] that the gag was more at Ace's expense (that he's tough enough to catch bullets in his teeth but [[DeliberateValuesDissonance goes to pieces from kissing a man]]) wears rather thin.

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* ValuesDissonance: [[UnsettlingGenderReveal The "Einhorn is a man" gag]]. Back in 1994 it was, at best, a cheep cheap laugh and at worst juvenile and mean-spirited. But after 20+ years of increased visibility for transgendered rights and the "trans panic" defense being seriously called into question, it comes off as deliberately cruel. Even Tom Shadyack's already [[WordOfGod questionable defense]] that the gag was more at Ace's expense (that he's tough enough to catch bullets in his teeth but [[DeliberateValuesDissonance goes to pieces from kissing a man]]) wears rather thin.
22nd Nov '16 9:45:17 PM NWolfman
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* ValuesDissonance: [[UnsettlingGenderReveal The "Einhorn is a man" gag]]. Back in 1994 it was, at best, a cheep laugh and at worst juvenile and mean-spirited. But after 20+ years of increased visibility for transgendered rights and the "trans panic" defense being seriously called into question, it comes off as downright cruel. Even Tom Shadyack's already [[WordOfGod questionable defense]] that the gag was more at Ace's expense (that he's tough enough to catch bullets in his teeth but [[DeliberateValuesDissonance goes to pieces from kissing a man]]) wears rather thin.

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* ValuesDissonance: [[UnsettlingGenderReveal The "Einhorn is a man" gag]]. Back in 1994 it was, at best, a cheep laugh and at worst juvenile and mean-spirited. But after 20+ years of increased visibility for transgendered rights and the "trans panic" defense being seriously called into question, it comes off as downright deliberately cruel. Even Tom Shadyack's already [[WordOfGod questionable defense]] that the gag was more at Ace's expense (that he's tough enough to catch bullets in his teeth but [[DeliberateValuesDissonance goes to pieces from kissing a man]]) wears rather thin.
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