History YMMV / ADollsHouse

14th Jan '16 7:00:53 PM StarSword
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* AlternativeCharacterInterpretation: An only moderately altered interpretation of Nora has the side effect of altering the entire play. In the conventional reading, Nora is a naive innocent who gets a harsh lesson in the world and grows up to move out. A wholly different interpretation is that we're actually seeing a plot involving several conspirators, organized by Nora, to break her tyrannical husband's hold. The Doctor being "ill" is a setup—he's fine and the card with the X through it is a signal he's ready for Nora to take off with him as they've obviously had a thing going on. Nils Krogstad's reasons for going along with the setup are obvious (knowing he's on the chopping block at work because of Torvald, he has nothing to lose and everything to gain revenge-wise) and Nora is also, more kindly, masterminding the reunion of Krogstad with his old girlfriend and her old friend, Christine, who's been the victim of a similar domestic tyranny. Nora is in fact a DiabolicalMastermind[=/=]MagnificentBitch orchestrating her husband's downfall.

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An only moderately altered interpretation of Nora has the side effect of altering the entire play. In the conventional reading, Nora is a naive innocent who gets a harsh lesson in the world and grows up to move out. A wholly different interpretation is that we're actually seeing a plot involving several conspirators, organized by Nora, to break her tyrannical husband's hold. The Doctor being "ill" is a setup—he's fine and the card with the X through it is a signal he's ready for Nora to take off with him as they've obviously had a thing going on. Nils Krogstad's reasons for going along with the setup are obvious (knowing he's on the chopping block at work because of Torvald, he has nothing to lose and everything to gain revenge-wise) and Nora is also, more kindly, masterminding the reunion of Krogstad with his old girlfriend and her old friend, Christine, who's been the victim of a similar domestic tyranny. Nora is in fact a DiabolicalMastermind[=/=]MagnificentBitch orchestrating her husband's downfall.
7th Feb '15 8:30:32 AM sgamer82
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeThemBack: ZigZagged. Torvald berates Nora viciously, then just as abruptly decides to forgive her because she is like a child and knows no better. She allows him to hug her and tell her how much he loves her, leaves to get changed - and walks back in with a suitcase to announce that she's leaving him.

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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeThemBack: WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: ZigZagged. Torvald berates Nora viciously, then just as abruptly decides to forgive her because she is like a child and knows no better. She allows him to hug her and tell her how much he loves her, leaves to get changed - and walks back in with a suitcase to announce that she's leaving him.
27th Jan '15 8:18:10 AM hbi2k
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Averted. Torvald berates Nora viciously, then just as abruptly decides to forgive her because she is like a child and knows no better. She allows him to hug her and tell her how much he loves her, leaves to get changed - and walks back in with a suitcase to announce that she's leaving him.

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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Averted.WhyWouldAnyoneTakeThemBack: ZigZagged. Torvald berates Nora viciously, then just as abruptly decides to forgive her because she is like a child and knows no better. She allows him to hug her and tell her how much he loves her, leaves to get changed - and walks back in with a suitcase to announce that she's leaving him.
6th Nov '14 6:02:49 PM OmarKarindu
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** The "scheming Nora" idea actually begot a kind of professional DarkFic in the form of August Strindberg's ''The Father'', sometimes said to have been written in response to Ibsen's play. In that one, the wife and other really do destroy the noble husband with their selfish desires.
28th Jun '14 6:03:57 PM dvorak
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* WriterRevolt: The "happy" ending written to appease the MoralGuardians only comes about because Torvald guilt-trips her into staying by way of "ThinkOfTheChildren"; and Nora considers this a FateWorseThanDeath.

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* WriterRevolt: The "happy" ending written to appease the MoralGuardians only comes about because Torvald guilt-trips her Nora into staying by way of "ThinkOfTheChildren"; and Nora considers this a FateWorseThanDeath.
28th Jun '14 6:02:47 PM dvorak
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* WriterRevolt: The "happy" ending written to appease the MoralGuardians only comes about because Nora's husband guilt-trips her inty staying by way of "ThinkOfTheChildren"; and Nora considers this a FateWorseThanDeath.

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* WriterRevolt: The "happy" ending written to appease the MoralGuardians only comes about because Nora's husband Torvald guilt-trips her inty into staying by way of "ThinkOfTheChildren"; and Nora considers this a FateWorseThanDeath.
28th Jun '14 6:01:47 PM dvorak
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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Averted. Torvald berates Nora viciously, then just as abruptly decides to forgive her because she is like a child and knows no better. She allows him to hug her and tell her how much he loves her, leaves to get changed - and walks back in with a suitcase to announce that she's leaving him.

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* WhyWouldAnyoneTakeHimBack: Averted. Torvald berates Nora viciously, then just as abruptly decides to forgive her because she is like a child and knows no better. She allows him to hug her and tell her how much he loves her, leaves to get changed - and walks back in with a suitcase to announce that she's leaving him.him.
* WriterRevolt: The "happy" ending written to appease the MoralGuardians only comes about because Nora's husband guilt-trips her inty staying by way of "ThinkOfTheChildren"; and Nora considers this a FateWorseThanDeath.
3rd Apr '14 11:20:38 AM tyouker
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* MisaimedFandom: No, this is '''not''' a play about how evil men are and how terrible marriage is. It was intended to show that '''''every''''' human person has pros and contras, ''no matter what their gender/social standing/etc. is''. (i.e., Torvald and Nora's relationship goes down the toilet because their views of each other's were terribly distorted and Nora realized how harmful this was for her so she decided to live her life and not play along anymore... but Krogstad and Kristine managed to strike a deal and went the opposite way, deciding to see if a prospect relationship will work well this time.)

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* MisaimedFandom: No, this is '''not''' a play about how evil men are and how terrible marriage is. It was intended to show that '''''every''''' human person has pros It's more a play about how relationships fail when they're based on acting out social expectations instead of on mutual understanding and contras, ''no matter what their gender/social standing/etc. is''. (i.e., respect. Torvald and Nora's relationship goes down the toilet Nora never really ''know'' each other, because their views entire marriage consists of each other's were terribly distorted them "playing house," acting out roles based on their assumptions about how the ideal Husband and Nora realized how harmful this was for her so she decided Wife are meant to live her life and not play along anymore... but Krogstad and act. Meanwhile, Kristine managed to strike a deal and went the opposite way, deciding Nils are able to see if achieve a prospect relationship will work well this time.) happy ending because they truly know each other, warts and all, and form a partnership according to terms that suit them as individuals.
3rd Apr '14 11:06:23 AM tyouker
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** A less elaborate example: Nora is often portrayed as a naïve victim of a domineering Torvald, but she can also be interpreted as the HypercompetentSidekick of a ManChild who is totally oblivious to how much work his wife puts into maintaining the façade of security and respectability that he credits entirely to his own hard work and moral purity.

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** A less elaborate example: Nora is often portrayed as a naïve victim of a domineering Torvald, but she can also be interpreted as the HypercompetentSidekick of a ManChild who is totally oblivious to how much work his wife puts into maintaining the façade of security and respectability that he credits entirely to his own hard work and moral purity.lets him see himself as a self-made success.
3rd Apr '14 11:04:25 AM tyouker
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** A less elaborate example: Nora is often portrayed as a naïve victim of a domineering Torvald, but she can also be interpreted as the HypercompetentSidekick of a ManChild who is totally oblivious to how much work his wife puts into maintaining the façade of security and respectability that he credits entirely to his own hard work and moral purity.

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** A **A less elaborate example: Nora is often portrayed as a naïve victim of a domineering Torvald, but she can also be interpreted as the HypercompetentSidekick of a ManChild who is totally oblivious to how much work his wife puts into maintaining the façade of security and respectability that he credits entirely to his own hard work and moral purity.
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