History YMMV / ADeathInTheFamily

17th Nov '16 8:36:49 PM BatmanKalEl
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* AlasPoorScrappy: Jason wasn't exactly the most favored character, but lots of fans thought his FamilyUnfriendlyDeath was... a bit too much.

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* AlasPoorScrappy: Jason wasn't exactly the most favored character, character at this time, but lots of fans thought his FamilyUnfriendlyDeath was... a bit too much.



* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: The story touches on a number of contemporary political and social issues, such as the Lebanese Civil War, the Arab–Israeli conflict, the Ethiopia famine, corruption and the handling of rogue states, the Iran-Contra case, etc.

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* WhatDoYouMeanItsNotPolitical: The story touches on a number of contemporary political and social issues, such as the Lebanese Civil War, the Arab–Israeli conflict, the Ethiopia famine, corruption and the handling of rogue states, the Iran-Contra case, etc.etc.

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17th Nov '16 8:36:17 PM BatmanKalEl
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* MoralEventHorizon: Again, The Joker, as he brutally tortures Jason Todd (the second Robin) right in front of his estranged mother Sheila, before killing both in an explosion.
** Hell, Sheila herself for [[spoiler: tricking Jason into the warehouse so that Joker and his men could ambush him when his guard was down.]]
*** Sheila's reaction to this? [[spoiler: Grimacing, then lighting a cigarette.]]
* TearJerker:
** [[spoiler: Batman carrying Jason's lifeless body in his arms.]]
** [[DownerEnding The ending as a whole.]]
** [[spoiler: Jason still trying to save his estranged mother even with a utterly messed up body after the Joker was done giving him a crowbar beatdown and failing due to both of them being blown up... and they're even smiling before being killed by the explosion.]]
** [[spoiler: [[WhamLine "Robin is dead, murdered by the Joker."]]]]

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* MoralEventHorizon: MoralEventHorizon:
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Again, The Joker, as he brutally tortures Jason Todd (the second Robin) right in front of his estranged mother Sheila, before killing both in an explosion.
** Hell, Sheila herself for [[spoiler: tricking Jason into the warehouse so that Joker and his men could ambush him when his guard was down.]]
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]] Sheila's reaction to this? [[spoiler: Grimacing, then lighting a cigarette.]]
* TearJerker:
** [[spoiler: Batman carrying Jason's lifeless body in his arms.]]
** [[DownerEnding The ending as a whole.]]
** [[spoiler: Jason still trying to save his estranged mother even with a utterly messed up body after the Joker was done giving him a crowbar beatdown and failing due to both of them being blown up... and they're even smiling before being killed by the explosion.]]
** [[spoiler: [[WhamLine "Robin is dead, murdered by the Joker."]]]]
]]
24th Oct '16 11:05:48 PM Omega3421
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* NeverLiveItDown: Jason has never really lived down the fact that he's ''the'' Robin who got killed off, pun not intended.
15th Aug '16 1:43:46 PM TTFan
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** A major factor to this is most likely ''Wizard Magazine'', which had a horrible habit of slamming characters or concepts they didn't like. There was even an April Fools Top Ten of Characters that should Stay Dead and Jason was #1. Thus, if it wasn't how brutal Jason was cut down, it was certainly because certain people wouldn't stop making fun of it.



** A major factor to this is most likely ''Wizard Magazine'', which had a horrible habit of slamming characters or concepts they didn't like. There was even an April Fools Top Ten of Characters that should Stay Dead and Jason was #1. Thus, if it wasn't how brutal Jason was cut down, it was certainly because certain people wouldn't stop making fun of it.
15th Aug '16 1:42:53 PM TTFan
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** Need further proof? ''Creator/FrankMiller'' [[CreatorBacklash of all people said]],
*** "An actual toll-free number where fans call in to put the axe to a little boys head... to me the whole killing of Robin was probably the ugliest thing I’ve seen in comics, and the most cynical."

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** Need further proof? ''Creator/FrankMiller'' [[CreatorBacklash of all people said]],
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said]], "An actual toll-free number where fans call in to put the axe to a little boys head... to me the whole killing of Robin was probably the ugliest thing I’ve seen in comics, and the most cynical."
12th Aug '16 2:58:12 AM HeyFella
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* MoralEventHorizon: Again, The Joker, as he as he brutally tortures Jason Todd (the second Robin) right in front of his estranged mother Sheila, before killing both in an explosion.

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* MoralEventHorizon: Again, The Joker, as he as he brutally tortures Jason Todd (the second Robin) right in front of his estranged mother Sheila, before killing both in an explosion.
29th Jul '16 8:20:00 PM Doug86
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** Need further proof? ''FrankMiller'' [[CreatorBacklash of all people said]],
*** "An actual toll-free number where fans call in to put the axe to a little boys head… to me the whole killing of Robin was probably the ugliest thing I’ve seen in comics, and the most cynical."

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** Need further proof? ''FrankMiller'' ''Creator/FrankMiller'' [[CreatorBacklash of all people said]],
*** "An actual toll-free number where fans call in to put the axe to a little boys head… head... to me the whole killing of Robin was probably the ugliest thing I’ve seen in comics, and the most cynical."
24th May '16 1:37:26 AM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: ComicBook/TheJoker is as monstrous as ever. After escaping Arkham Asylum, during which he kills a number of people, the Joker steals a nuclear weapon with plans to sell it to terrorists during the Lebanon civil war. He also blackmails Jason Todd's mother Sheila into helping him obtain medical supplies that he withholds from the starving to sell them on the black market, replacing them with laughing gas that, when set off, will kill thousands of people. Capturing Jason Todd, aka Robin, the Joker famously [[CrowbarCombatant beats him with a crowbar]] before killing him and Sheila with a time bomb. After getting a position as the Iran representative, the Joker holds a speech at an assembly, only to try and kill everyone in the building with [[DeadlyGas poisonous gas]].

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* CompleteMonster: ComicBook/TheJoker is as monstrous as ever. After escaping Arkham Asylum, during which he kills a number of people, the Joker steals a nuclear weapon with plans to sell it to terrorists during the Lebanon civil war. He also blackmails [[ComicBook/{{Robin}} Jason Todd's Todd]]'s mother Sheila into helping him obtain medical supplies that he withholds from the starving to sell them on the black market, replacing them with laughing gas that, when set off, will kill thousands of people. Capturing Jason Todd, aka Robin, the Joker famously [[CrowbarCombatant beats him with a crowbar]] before killing him and Sheila with a time bomb. After getting a position as the Iran representative, the Joker holds a speech at an assembly, only to try and kill everyone in the building with [[DeadlyGas poisonous gas]].
23rd May '16 5:26:47 PM ACW
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* CompleteMonster: ComicBook/TheJoker counts as usual. He [[CrowbarCombatant savagely beat Jason Todd with a crowbar]], then killed him and his mother with a time bomb.

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* CompleteMonster: ComicBook/TheJoker counts is as usual. monstrous as ever. After escaping Arkham Asylum, during which he kills a number of people, the Joker steals a nuclear weapon with plans to sell it to terrorists during the Lebanon civil war. He also blackmails Jason Todd's mother Sheila into helping him obtain medical supplies that he withholds from the starving to sell them on the black market, replacing them with laughing gas that, when set off, will kill thousands of people. Capturing Jason Todd, aka Robin, the Joker famously [[CrowbarCombatant savagely beat Jason Todd beats him with a crowbar]], then killed crowbar]] before killing him and his mother Sheila with a time bomb.bomb. After getting a position as the Iran representative, the Joker holds a speech at an assembly, only to try and kill everyone in the building with [[DeadlyGas poisonous gas]].
27th Apr '16 1:48:52 PM JDSVEN
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** Need further proof? ''FrankMiller'' [[CreatorBacklash of all people said]],
***"An actual toll-free number where fans call in to put the axe to a little boys head… to me the whole killing of Robin was probably the ugliest thing I’ve seen in comics, and the most cynical."
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