History Wrestling / VinceRusso

22nd May '16 5:25:49 PM IndirectActiveTransport
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** Nearing the end of his tenure at WCW, he "won" the World Heavyweight Championship, [[{{Slapstick}} pratfalling]] his way to victory over Wrestling/BookerT in a cage match filmed in Russo's hometown of Long Island.

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** Nearing the end of his tenure at WCW, he "won" the World Heavyweight Championship, Championship belt, [[{{Slapstick}} pratfalling]] his way to victory over Wrestling/BookerT in a cage match filmed in Russo's hometown of Long Island.



** He still defends giving himself the WCW World Heavyweight Championship, he defends giving David Arquette the WCW World Heavyweight Championship, he insists that no American wrestling fan wants to see non-American wrestlers, and he ''doesn't believe in {{Face}} and {{Heel}}''.

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** He still defends giving himself the WCW World Heavyweight Championship, Championship belt, he defends giving David Arquette the WCW World Heavyweight Championship, Championship belt, he insists that no American wrestling fan wants to see non-American wrestlers, and he ''doesn't believe in {{Face}} and {{Heel}}''.



** People also forget that Vince Russo is usually ''not'' the only person involved in writing or booking. In an interview regarding his disastrous decision to put the [[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/wcw/wcw-h.html WCW World Heavyweight Championship]] on an actor [[note]](DAVID ARQUETTE!)[[/note]], Russo recalls that he proposed the idea (originally from an off-hand comment by Tony Schiavone) at a booking meeting filled with industry veterans and staff workers alike. Everyone involved not named Vince Russo recalls that the room erupting into laughter at Tony Schiavone's joke - and it was only afterwards that Russo decided that the joke was actually a great idea. Sadly, no one with the authority to veto the plan did so. Arquette himself hated the idea; as a wrestling fan, he thought the idea insulting. He ended up donating all the money he made to the families of deceased wrestlers and the then-recently paralyzed Darren Drozdov.

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** People also forget that Vince Russo is usually ''not'' the only person involved in writing or booking. In an interview regarding his disastrous decision to put the [[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/wcw/wcw-h.html WCW World Heavyweight Championship]] Championship belt]] on an actor [[note]](DAVID ARQUETTE!)[[/note]], Russo recalls that he proposed the idea (originally from an off-hand comment by Tony Schiavone) at a booking meeting filled with industry veterans and staff workers alike. Everyone involved not named Vince Russo recalls that the room erupting into laughter at Tony Schiavone's joke - and it was only afterwards that Russo decided that the joke was actually a great idea. Sadly, no one with the authority to veto the plan did so. Arquette himself hated the idea; as a wrestling fan, he thought the idea insulting. He ended up donating all the money he made to the families of deceased wrestlers and the then-recently paralyzed Darren Drozdov.



* WriterOnBoard: Especially throughout his run in WCW, and his 2002-04 run in TNA. This may have been due to him thinking he could recreate the magic of the Mr. [=McMahon=] character. He even awarded himself the WCW Heavyweight Championship!

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* WriterOnBoard: Especially throughout his run in WCW, and his 2002-04 run in TNA. This may have been due to him thinking he could recreate the magic of the Mr. [=McMahon=] character. He even awarded himself the WCW Heavyweight Championship!Title belt!
5th May '16 3:30:50 PM thecarolinabull01
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** The "'''P'''retty '''M'''ean '''S'''isters" moniker didn't go over with Terri Runnels, who [[http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/24th69/i_am_former_wwewcw_diva_terri/ begged]] [=McMahon=] ''and'' Russo to change it... to no avail.

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** The "'''P'''retty '''M'''ean '''S'''isters" moniker didn't go over with Terri Runnels, Wrestling/TerriRunnels, who [[http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/24th69/i_am_former_wwewcw_diva_terri/ begged]] [=McMahon=] ''and'' Russo to change it... to no avail.
4th May '16 10:24:47 AM JamesAustin
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His infamy is such that when it was announced that he had been re-hired by the WWE in 2002, the rest of the writing staff threatened a walk-out. As it turned out, Russo was swiftly demoted a few days later after a "big idea" he proposed bombed horribly; rumor has it that it would've been a restart of WWE's own failed WCW "Invasion" angle led by Wrestling/EricBischoff. He left for greener pastures at the fledgling Wrestling/{{TNA}} shortly afterward. (As a point of interest, Bischoff was hired by [=WWE=] a month after Russo's dismissal, though he eventually joined Russo at TNA.) In 2012, Dixie Carter announced that TNA and Russo had mutually parted ways and that he would be replaced by [[Characters/WWEManagers Bruce "Brother Love" Pritchard]]. However, it was revealed two years later that Russo was still working for the company as an unofficial consultant, most likely because Carter [[VetinariJobSecurity had no one to replace him]]. [[note]](This incurred a much more serious problem for TNA, unfortunately: Spike TV has apparently not sat well with Russo and when he left in 2012, Spike's directive to TNA was not to bring him back at any point following. The discovery Russo had been indeed filling a seat at TNA caused enough of a backlash at Spike for them to break any further renewal negotiations for ''Impact Wrestling'' and now TNA's premiere television show will move to the Destination America channel in 2015.)[[/note]]

Having been a ProfessionalWrestling fan for so long that he proclaims to have "[[TaughtByTelevision seen it all]]" [[note]](or so he claimed; in truth, Russo had never attended a wrestling match before being promoted to Cornette's partner at the WWF)[[/note]], Vince Russo's booking ethos is to try to shock and surprise the fans with something new. Unfortunately this usually amounts to something that doesn't make sense rather than something that is original, or something that the fans want to see. There's a reason why he's the [[TropeNamers Trope Namer]] for ShockingSwerve. Another issue is that he constantly tries to outsmart the [[SmartMark [=Smark=]]] fans: the problem here is that the Smarks - due to ''being Smarks'' - don't buy it, and regular fans are just confused by things like wrestlers "breaking character" or references to backstage incidents that only hardcore fans would know.

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His infamy is such that when it was announced that he had been re-hired by the WWE in 2002, the rest of the writing staff threatened a walk-out. As it turned out, Russo was swiftly demoted a few days later after a "big idea" he proposed bombed horribly; rumor has it that it would've been a restart of WWE's own failed WCW "Invasion" angle led by Wrestling/EricBischoff. He left for greener pastures at the fledgling Wrestling/{{TNA}} shortly afterward. (As a point of interest, Bischoff was hired by [=WWE=] WWE a month after Russo's dismissal, though he eventually joined Russo at TNA.) In 2012, Dixie Carter announced that TNA and Russo had mutually parted ways and that he would be replaced by [[Characters/WWEManagers Bruce "Brother Love" Pritchard]]. However, it was revealed two years later that Russo was still working for the company as an unofficial consultant, most likely because Carter [[VetinariJobSecurity had no one to replace him]]. [[note]](This incurred a much more serious problem for TNA, unfortunately: Spike TV has apparently not sat well with Russo and when he left in 2012, Spike's directive to TNA was not to bring him back at any point following. The discovery Russo had been indeed filling a seat at TNA caused enough of a backlash at Spike for them to break any further renewal negotiations for ''Impact Wrestling'' and now TNA's premiere television show will move to the Destination America channel in 2015.)[[/note]]

Having been a ProfessionalWrestling fan for so long that he proclaims to have "[[TaughtByTelevision seen it all]]" [[note]](or "SeenItAll,"[[note]](or so he claimed; in truth, Russo had never attended a wrestling match before being promoted to Cornette's partner at the WWF)[[/note]], WWF)[[/note]] Vince Russo's booking ethos is to try to shock and surprise the fans with something new. Unfortunately this usually amounts to something that doesn't make sense rather than something that is original, or something that the fans want to see. There's a reason why he's the [[TropeNamers Trope Namer]] {{Trope Namer|s}} for ShockingSwerve. Another issue is that he constantly tries to outsmart the [[SmartMark [=Smark=]]] SmartMark fans: the problem here is that the Smarks - due to ''being Smarks'' - don't buy it, and regular fans are just confused by things like wrestlers "breaking character" or references to backstage incidents that only hardcore fans would know.



Nowadays he hosts his own podcast, ''The Swerve'', where he shares his thoughts on modern wrestling. You can check it out. [[http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2015/3/5/8157903/vince-russos-partner-at-pyro-and-ballyhoo-gives-his-side-of-the-story Or not.]] Some of his archived interviews are available through paywalls on various sites. Vince himself has posted the highlights on his [=YouTube=] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVX8-jwqPPM page.]]

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Nowadays he hosts his own podcast, ''The Swerve'', Brand'', where he shares his thoughts on modern wrestling. You can check it out. [[http://www.cagesideseats.com/wwe/2015/3/5/8157903/vince-russos-partner-at-pyro-and-ballyhoo-gives-his-side-of-the-story Or not.]] Some of his archived interviews are available through paywalls on various sites. Vince himself has posted the highlights on his [=YouTube=] [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVX8-jwqPPM page.]]



** Nearing the end of his tenure at WCW, he "won" the World Title, [[{{Slapstick}} pratfalling]] his way to victory over Wrestling/BookerT in a cage match filmed in Russo's hometown of Long Island.

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** Nearing the end of his tenure at WCW, he "won" the World Title, Heavyweight Championship, [[{{Slapstick}} pratfalling]] his way to victory over Wrestling/BookerT in a cage match filmed in Russo's hometown of Long Island.



* DramaticUnmask: During the November 2002 Wrestling/{{N|ationalWrestlingAlliance}}WA-TNA pay-per-view, "Mr. Wrestling III" revealed himself to be Russo in disguise.

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* DramaticUnmask: During the November 2002 Wrestling/{{N|ationalWrestlingAlliance}}WA-TNA [[Wrestling/NationalWrestlingAlliance NWA-TNA]] pay-per-view, "Mr. Wrestling III" revealed himself to be Russo in disguise.



** Whilst the angle would appear to be his doing, Russo isn't actually to blame for the Immortal angle. In a [=ReAction=] interview in 2015, Russo said he knew this storyline would bomb, and was just being pressured by [[Wrestling/HulkHogan Hogan]] and Bischoff to rehash the [=nWo=]. When Vince Russo, ''the campiest booker in existence'', is getting cold feet? Chances are you shouldn't do it.

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** Whilst the angle would appear to be his doing, Russo isn't actually to blame for the Immortal angle. In a [=ReAction=] interview in 2015, Russo said he knew this storyline would bomb, and was just being pressured by [[Wrestling/HulkHogan Hogan]] Wrestling/HulkHogan and Bischoff to rehash the [=nWo=]. When Vince Russo, ''the campiest booker in existence'', is getting cold feet? Chances are you shouldn't do it.



* FleetingDemographicRule:
** Despite becoming renowned for his unorthodox swerves, most of his angles are reheated versions of memorable WCW/WWE storylines from a year before. You had contradictory themes like Hulk Hogan shedding his gimmick altogether to wrestle under his real name, and on the other side, the New Blood aping the WWF's blood-falling-from-the-ceiling spot (which most fans recognized as being The Brood's gimmick). A stylistic imitation isn't much of an alternative.
** As covered by ''[[http://www.ddtdigest.com/updates/2001034m.htm DDT]]'' at the time, Russo also gave us:
### The Filthy Animals as [[Wrestling/DGenerationX DX]] using the hidden [[Wrestling/BillyKidman Kid-cam]] (G-TV) to catch the Nitro Girls in a compromising position;
### Wrestling/{{Madusa}} v. [[Characters/WCWFemaleTalent Spice]] as Wrestling/{{Chyna}} v. [[Characters/WWEDivas Miss Kitty]] (and Asya in [[CaptainErsatz a similar role]]);
### Ed "Oklahoma" Ferrera as a BBQ sauce-shilling Wrestling/JimRoss;
### [[Characters/WWEAttitude Shawn Stasiak]] as [[Wrestling/CurtHennig Mr. Perfect]] (okay, so Perfect was late 80's-early 90's, but still let's be original);
### Referees going on strike, and the list goes on.
* FollowTheLeader: Russo was brought into WCW/TNA to imprint the WWF product onto those companies, but he failed.
-->'''DDT Digest:''' You end up pissing off the fans who watch WCW because they don't want to watch the WWF and/or a product with a lessened emphasis on action and more on sports entertainment. Although you ''might'' gain new fans by switching to an entertainment-based product, if you piss off enough people you merely trade audiences to [[DidntThinkThisThrough ZERO]] net effect.

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* FleetingDemographicRule:
**
FleetingDemographicRule: Despite becoming renowned for his unorthodox swerves, most of his angles are reheated versions of memorable WCW/WWE storylines from a year before. You had contradictory themes like Hulk Hogan shedding his gimmick altogether to wrestle under his real name, and on the other side, before, such as the New Blood aping the WWF's blood-falling-from-the-ceiling spot (which most fans recognized as being The Brood's gimmick). A stylistic imitation isn't much of an alternative.
**
As covered by ''[[http://www.ddtdigest.com/updates/2001034m.htm DDT]]'' at the time, Russo also gave us:
### ## The Filthy Animals as [[Wrestling/DGenerationX DX]] using the hidden [[Wrestling/BillyKidman Kid-cam]] (G-TV) to catch the Nitro Girls in a compromising position;
### ## Wrestling/{{Madusa}} v. [[Characters/WCWFemaleTalent Spice]] as Wrestling/{{Chyna}} v. [[Characters/WWEDivas [[Wrestling/StacyCarter Miss Kitty]] (and Asya in [[CaptainErsatz a similar role]]);
### ## Ed "Oklahoma" Ferrera as a BBQ sauce-shilling Wrestling/JimRoss;
### ## [[Characters/WWEAttitude Shawn Stasiak]] as [[Wrestling/CurtHennig Mr. Perfect]] (okay, so Perfect was late 80's-early 90's, but still let's be original);
### ## Referees going on strike, and the list goes on.
* FollowTheLeader: Russo was brought into WCW/TNA to imprint the WWF product onto those companies, but he failed.
-->'''DDT Digest:''' You end up pissing off the fans who watch WCW because they don't want to watch the WWF and/or a product with a lessened emphasis on action and more on sports entertainment. Although you ''might'' gain new fans by switching to an entertainment-based product, if you piss off enough people you merely trade audiences to [[DidntThinkThisThrough ZERO]] net effect.
on.



** He still insists the Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob was a work, he defends giving himself the WCW World Heavyweight Championship, he defends giving David Arquette the WCW World Heavyweight Championship, he insists that no American wrestling fan wants to see non-American wrestlers, and he ''doesn't believe in {{Face}} and {{Heel}}''.

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** He still insists the Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob was a work, he defends giving himself the WCW World Heavyweight Championship, he defends giving David Arquette the WCW World Heavyweight Championship, he insists that no American wrestling fan wants to see non-American wrestlers, and he ''doesn't believe in {{Face}} and {{Heel}}''.



* WriterOnBoard: Especially throughout his run in WCW, and his 2002-04 run in TNA. This may have been due to him thinking he could recreate the magic of the Mr. [=McMahon=] character. He even awarded himself the WCW Heavyweight Title!

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* WriterOnBoard: Especially throughout his run in WCW, and his 2002-04 run in TNA. This may have been due to him thinking he could recreate the magic of the Mr. [=McMahon=] character. He even awarded himself the WCW Heavyweight Title!Championship!
9th Apr '16 8:12:59 AM Homiedclown
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* BastardlySpeech. Russo finding God and confessing his past sins to the Impact Zone, claiming that he "sold his soul for ratings." (Russo really did become a born-again Christian in real life. One of the billions of reasons militant atheist Jim Cornette hates him.)
25th Jan '16 11:41:08 AM JamesAustin
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[[caption-width-right:300:Vince Russo (right): Former [[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/wcw/wcw-h.html WCW World Heavyweight Champion]]. [[note]](What are they all looking at down there? '''The ratings.''')[[/note]] ]]

->'''OOC''': I would like to read Russo's book.\\
'''Jay''': '''''SWERVE!''''' It's a cookbook.

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[[caption-width-right:300:Vince Russo (right): Former [[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/wcw/wcw-h.html WCW World Heavyweight Champion]]. [[note]](What are they all looking at down there? '''The ratings.''')[[/note]] ]]

->'''OOC''': ->'''OOC:''' I would like to read Russo's book.\\
'''Jay''': '''Jay:''' '''''SWERVE!''''' It's a cookbook.



-->-- '''Vince Russo''', being a good sport (2006).

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-->-- '''Vince -->--'''Vince Russo''', being a good sport (2006).



* AbortedArc:
** Near the end of WCW, the [[Wrestling/StacyKeibler Miss Hancock (Stacy Kiebler)]] pregnancy angle was started, and went precisely nowhere. Russo was the one who booked her kayfabe pregnancy, putting a quick end to her wedding to David Flair. Flair went on the warpath, challenging any wrestler he suspected of fathering Keibler's "baby". The plan was, according to rumor, that Vince Russo had [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe booked himself as the daddy]] [!], but AOL-Time Warner pulled the plug on WCW before it could play out; instead, the angle was abandoned and she was made Shawn Stasiak's valet for a brief feud with Wrestling/BamBamBigelow as the promotion died.
** This would've been followed by Ric Flair "announcing" that Stacy was the "product" of an "affair" he had some 20 years before, which would've made her and his son David [[IncestSubtext "half-siblings"]].

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* AbortedArc:
**
AbortedArc: Near the end of WCW, the [[Wrestling/StacyKeibler Miss Hancock (Stacy Kiebler)]] (Wrestling/StacyKeibler) pregnancy angle was started, and went precisely nowhere. Russo was the one who booked her kayfabe pregnancy, putting a quick end to her wedding to David Flair. Flair went on the warpath, challenging any wrestler he suspected of fathering Keibler's "baby". The plan was, according to rumor, that Vince Russo had [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe booked himself as the daddy]] [!], daddy[!], but AOL-Time Warner pulled the plug on WCW before it could play out; instead, the angle was abandoned and she was made Shawn Stasiak's valet for a brief feud with Wrestling/BamBamBigelow as the promotion died.
**
died. This would've been followed by Ric Flair "announcing" that Stacy was the "product" of an "affair" he had some 20 years before, which would've made her and his son David [[IncestSubtext "half-siblings"]].



** Nearing the end of his tenure at WCW, he "won" the World Title, [[{{Slapstick}} pratfalling]] his way to victory over Wrestling/BookerT in a cage match filmed in Russo's hometown of Long Island. It's good to be the King.
** As a downside, Russo -- a layperson -- suffered post-concussion syndrome as a result of his many matches against the likes of Wrestling/{{Goldberg}} (who speared Russo through a cage wall in the aforementioned match), [[Wrestling/ScottSteiner Steiner]], and others. Yes, wrestling's most colorful and unpredictable booker suffered brain damage on the job.

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** Nearing the end of his tenure at WCW, he "won" the World Title, [[{{Slapstick}} pratfalling]] his way to victory over Wrestling/BookerT in a cage match filmed in Russo's hometown of Long Island. It's good to be the King.
Island.
** As a downside, Russo -- a layperson -- suffered post-concussion syndrome as a result of his many matches against the likes of Wrestling/{{Goldberg}} (who speared Russo through a cage wall in the aforementioned match), [[Wrestling/ScottSteiner Steiner]], Wrestling/ScottSteiner, and others. Yes, wrestling's most colorful and unpredictable booker suffered brain damage on the job.



* [[AnswersToTheNameOfGod Answers to the Name of Gawd]]: One drove out to the ring in a Popemobile. Yes.
* AlternateCompanyEquivalent: Like [[Wrestling/PaulHeyman Paul E.]], Russo began in journalism, and is one of few (non-wrestler) bookers that most people can identify by name. Both men were collectively responsible for the Attitude Era. Funny how a pair of New Yorkers had such massive influence on a traditionally southern pastime.
* AscendedExtra: Perhaps the biggest example in the industry, rivaled only by Bischoff and Wrestling/PaulHeyman. Like Paul E., Russo began in journalism, and is one of few (non-wrestler) bookers that most people can identify by name. Under [=McMahon's=] moderating influence, Russo was a useful sounding board for the company's demographic.Russo got his start by operating and hosting an AM Radio show called ''Vicious Vincent's World of Wrestling''; the program folded within a year after the crank calling from listeners got out of hand. From there he got hired a writer for WWE Magazine under the pen name "Vic Venom", had his own segment on the show "Livewire", and even commentated on a handful of episodes of "Shotgun Saturday Night".

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* [[AnswersToTheNameOfGod Answers to the Name of Gawd]]: AnswersToTheNameOfGod: One drove out to the ring in a Popemobile. Yes.
Popemobile.
* AlternateCompanyEquivalent: Like [[Wrestling/PaulHeyman Paul E.]], Wrestling/PaulHeyman, Russo began in journalism, and is one of few (non-wrestler) bookers that most people can identify by name. Both men were collectively responsible for the Attitude Era. Funny how a pair of New Yorkers had such massive influence on a traditionally southern pastime.
* AscendedExtra: Perhaps the biggest example in the industry, rivaled only by Bischoff and Wrestling/PaulHeyman. Like Paul E., Russo began in journalism, and is one of few (non-wrestler) bookers that most people can identify by name. Under [=McMahon's=] moderating influence, Russo was a useful sounding board for the company's demographic. Russo got his start by operating and hosting an AM Radio show called ''Vicious Vincent's World of Wrestling''; the program folded within a year after the crank calling from listeners got out of hand. From there he got hired a writer for WWE Magazine ''WWE Magazine'' under the pen name "Vic Venom", had his own segment on the show "Livewire", ''Livewire'', and even commentated on a handful of episodes of "Shotgun ''Shotgun Saturday Night".Night''.



** Russo loves pole matches. For some reason he thinks that all non-gimmick singles matches are exactly alike, and so he puts objects on poles to make the matches different from each other. This means he doesn't just book pole matches for titles, but for the strangest things - a pet rat, a pinata, Viagra, Judy Bagwell (no, really...though this was on a forklift), and the keys to Wrestling/MickFoley's office are just a few of the things that have been at stake in those matches. One particularly strange storyline from towards the end of Russo's time with the WWF revolved around [[Wrestling/BigBossman the Big Bossman]] kidnapping and ''cooking'' Wrestling/AlSnow's pet dog Pepper. This inevitably culminated in a "Pepper on a Pole" match, with the leftovers in a styrofoam container on top of a pole. Russo at his Russoest.
** The only pole match to really carry any major meaning was the "Pink Slip on a Pole" match between [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]] and [[Wrestling/MickFoley Mankind]] in late 1999 with both of their kayfabe jobs on the line, which actually took place after Russo left the company.

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** Russo loves pole matches. For some reason he thinks that all non-gimmick singles matches are exactly alike, and so he puts objects on poles to make the matches different from each other. This means he doesn't just book pole matches for titles, but for the strangest things - a pet rat, a pinata, Viagra, Judy Bagwell (no, really...though this was on a forklift), and the keys to Wrestling/MickFoley's office are just a few of the things that have been at stake in those matches. One particularly strange storyline from towards the end of Russo's time with the WWF revolved around [[Wrestling/BigBossman the Big Bossman]] kidnapping and ''cooking'' Wrestling/AlSnow's pet dog Pepper. This inevitably culminated in a "Pepper on a Pole" match, with the leftovers in a styrofoam container on top of a pole. Russo at his Russoest.\n** The only pole match to really carry any major meaning was the "Pink Slip on a Pole" match between [[Wrestling/DwayneJohnson The Rock]] and [[Wrestling/MickFoley Mankind]] in late 1999 with both of their kayfabe jobs on the line, which actually took place after Russo left the company.



* [[EveryoneHasStandards Even Russo Has Standards]]:

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* [[EveryoneHasStandards Even Russo Has Standards]]: EveryoneHasStandards:



-->'''DDT Digest''': "You end up pissing off the fans who watch WCW because they don't want to watch the WWF and/or a product with a lessened emphasis on action and more on sports entertainment. Although you ''might'' gain new fans by switching to an entertainment-based product, if you piss off enough people you merely trade audiences to [[DidntThinkThisThrough ZERO]] net effect."

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-->'''DDT Digest''': "You Digest:''' You end up pissing off the fans who watch WCW because they don't want to watch the WWF and/or a product with a lessened emphasis on action and more on sports entertainment. Although you ''might'' gain new fans by switching to an entertainment-based product, if you piss off enough people you merely trade audiences to [[DidntThinkThisThrough ZERO]] net effect."



** Does the WWF's '''T'''erri '''I'''nvitational '''T'''ournament, WCW's '''S'''askatchewan '''H'''ardcore '''I'''nternational '''T'''itle, or TNA's '''S'''ports '''E'''ntertainment '''X'''treme and '''V'''oodoo '''K'''in '''M'''afia [[note]]([[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vincent Kennedy [=McMahon=]]])[[/note]] ring a bell to anyone?

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** Does the WWF's '''T'''erri '''I'''nvitational '''T'''ournament, WCW's '''S'''askatchewan '''H'''ardcore '''I'''nternational '''T'''itle, or TNA's '''S'''ports '''E'''ntertainment '''X'''treme and '''V'''oodoo '''K'''in '''M'''afia [[note]]([[Wrestling/VinceMcMahon Vincent Kennedy [=McMahon=]]])[[/note]] McMahon]])[[/note]] ring a bell to anyone?



** The "'''P'''retty '''M'''ean '''S'''isters" moniker didn't go over with Terri Runnels, who [[http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/24th69/i_am_former_wwewcw_diva_terri/ begged]] [=McMahon=] ''and'' Russo to change it...to no avail.

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** The "'''P'''retty '''M'''ean '''S'''isters" moniker didn't go over with Terri Runnels, who [[http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/24th69/i_am_former_wwewcw_diva_terri/ begged]] [=McMahon=] ''and'' Russo to change it... to no avail.



-->'''Website/{{Wrestlecrap}}''': "After all, this was the man who would go on to create the [[OppositeDay Reverse Battle Royal]] and would probably have invented the [[GravityScrew Upside-Down Battle Royal]] if he had figured out how to cram cameras and lighting rigs under the ring."

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-->'''Website/{{Wrestlecrap}}''': "After -->'''Website/{{WrestleCrap}}:''' After all, this was the man who would go on to create the [[OppositeDay Reverse Battle Royal]] and would probably have invented the [[GravityScrew Upside-Down Battle Royal]] if he had figured out how to cram cameras and lighting rigs under the ring."



* IRejectYourReality: Where to even begin?
** He still insists the Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob was a work, he defends giving himself the WCW World Championship, he defends giving David Arquette the World Championship, he insists that no American wrestling fan wants to see non-American wrestlers, and he ''doesn't believe in {{Face}} and {{Heel}}''.

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* IRejectYourReality: Where to even begin?
IRejectYourReality:
** He still insists the Wrestling/MontrealScrewjob was a work, he defends giving himself the WCW World Heavyweight Championship, he defends giving David Arquette the WCW World Heavyweight Championship, he insists that no American wrestling fan wants to see non-American wrestlers, and he ''doesn't believe in {{Face}} and {{Heel}}''.



--->'''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2MNLK7JJSg&t=790s Wrestle! Wrestle!]]''': "Of course, whenever weird stuff like this happens in wrestling, I always like to picture the Pope sitting at home or sitting in a strip club, 'cause that's where he usually is when he's not in the Impact Zone. ''"You know what, daddy? I hate that Abyss guy. You know what I'm gonna do? [[OutOfCharacterMoment I'm gonna go buy a casket.]]"'' So he goes to a rest home and he buys a casket. Now, one wonders, he's shopping for a casket--he's [[PimpDuds wearing his Pope gear]], because wouldn't you be?"

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--->'''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2MNLK7JJSg&t=790s Wrestle! Wrestle!]]''': "Of Wrestle!:]]''' Of course, whenever weird stuff like this happens in wrestling, I always like to picture the Pope sitting at home or sitting in a strip club, 'cause that's where he usually is when he's not in the Impact Zone. ''"You "You know what, daddy? I hate that Abyss guy. You know what I'm gonna do? [[OutOfCharacterMoment I'm gonna go buy a casket.]]"'' ]]" So he goes to a rest home and he buys a casket. Now, one wonders, he's shopping for a casket--he's [[PimpDuds wearing his Pope gear]], because wouldn't you be?"be?



-->'''[[WebVideo/OSWReview Jay Hunter]]''': Oddly enough, Russo is throwing Liz back into the Millionaries' bus with Luger in the drivers' seat. (What the hell was ''he'' doin' there? He's like, ''"[[WrestlingDoesntPay All abooooooooooooard!]])"''
* {{MIB}}: Creative Control, which was Russo's outfit (no pun intended). [[Wrestling/CurtHennig Hennig]] was a member. Then again, so was Wrestling/{{Virgil}}...

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-->'''[[WebVideo/OSWReview Jay Hunter]]''': Hunter]]:''' Oddly enough, Russo is throwing Liz back into the Millionaries' bus with Luger in the drivers' seat. (What the hell was ''he'' doin' there? He's like, ''"[[WrestlingDoesntPay All abooooooooooooard!]])"''
* {{MIB}}: TheMenInBlack: Creative Control, which was Russo's outfit (no pun intended). [[Wrestling/CurtHennig Hennig]] Wrestling/CurtHennig was a member. Then again, so was Wrestling/{{Virgil}}...



** The Impact Zone {{c|rowdchant}}hant of "[[PhraseCatcher FIRE RUSSO!]]" at poorly-conceived matches or skits, regardless of whether Russo had a hand in it or not.
** The first time the chant was invoked (Destination X 2007 during the Wrestling/{{Sting}} vs. Abyss Last Rites match, which featured a casket suspended from the ceiling which they called a Deathbed), Russo wasn't actually at fault. Dutch Mantell was.
*** Possibly averted; [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-8BEqC_EPs according to Dutch]], Russo told Dixie Carter that the match was his doing. Given his history...yeah that was all Russo.
** People also forget that Vince Russo is usually ''not'' the only person involved in writing or booking. In an interview regarding his disastrous decision to put the [[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/wcw/wcw-h.html WCW World Heavyweight Title]] on an actor [[note]](DAVID ARQUETTE!)[[/note]], Russo recalls that he proposed the idea (originally from an off-hand comment by Tony Schiavone) at a booking meeting filled with industry veterans and staff workers alike. Everyone involved not named Vince Russo recalls that the room erupting into laughter at Tony Schiavone's joke - and it was only afterwards that Russo decided that the joke was actually a great idea. Sadly, no one with the authority to veto the plan did so. Arquette himself hated the idea; as a wrestling fan, he thought the idea insulting. He ended up donating all the money he made to the families of deceased wrestlers and the then-recently paralyzed Darren Drozdov.

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** The Impact Zone {{c|rowdchant}}hant CrowdChant of "[[PhraseCatcher FIRE RUSSO!]]" at poorly-conceived matches or skits, regardless of whether Russo had a hand in it or not.
** The first time the chant was invoked (Destination X 2007 during the Wrestling/{{Sting}} vs. Abyss Last Rites match, which featured a casket suspended from the ceiling which they called a Deathbed), Russo wasn't actually at fault. Dutch Mantell was.
*** Possibly averted; [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-8BEqC_EPs according to Dutch]], Russo told Dixie Carter that the match was his doing. Given his history...yeah that was all Russo.
** People also forget that Vince Russo is usually ''not'' the only person involved in writing or booking. In an interview regarding his disastrous decision to put the [[http://www.wrestling-titles.com/wcw/wcw-h.html WCW World Heavyweight Title]] Championship]] on an actor [[note]](DAVID ARQUETTE!)[[/note]], Russo recalls that he proposed the idea (originally from an off-hand comment by Tony Schiavone) at a booking meeting filled with industry veterans and staff workers alike. Everyone involved not named Vince Russo recalls that the room erupting into laughter at Tony Schiavone's joke - and it was only afterwards that Russo decided that the joke was actually a great idea. Sadly, no one with the authority to veto the plan did so. Arquette himself hated the idea; as a wrestling fan, he thought the idea insulting. He ended up donating all the money he made to the families of deceased wrestlers and the then-recently paralyzed Darren Drozdov.



** A tragic example: [[Wrestling/JimCornette Some]] [[Wrestling/RoddyPiper people]] blamed Vince Russo for the death of Wrestling/OwenHart. While Russo came up with the harnessing spot, no one could have foreseen the tragedy that happened at the 1999 Over the Edge PPV. Hell, even Russo blames himself to this day for letting Owen do that spot (Steve Austin even mentioned comforting him and reminding him it wasn't his fault during the Owen tribute show). [[RuleofCautiousEditingJudgement But it was an accident and let's leave it at that.]]
** A more lighthearted example: He wasn't responsible for angles like Katie Vick or Mae Young giving birth to a hand, as he'd left the WWE by the time these angles hit the screen. He also wasn't responsible for [[Wrestling/AJStyles Claire]] [[Wrestling/ChristopherDaniels Lyn]][[Wrestling/FrankieKazarian ch]], the "Katie Vick" of TNA -- that happened later in the year, after Russo left the company.
* {{Nepotism}}: The only reason he had a job in TNA was because of Jeff Jarrett (something Jerry Jarrett greatly regrets). Jeff, to his credit, did a lot of editing of his ideas alongside Dutch Mantell -- unfortunately, some of the crap filtered through because Vinny Ru proceeded to endear himself to Dixie, which owed to his rehiring in 2013-2014. For how that turned out, see OpenSecret.
* NerdInEvilsHelmet: Babyfaces beware - the man knows his wrestling trivia, including your old ring names, past gimmicks, and every embarrassing angle you've ever been involved in. Also, his entrance music? ''[[Music/BlackSabbath Iron Man.]]''
* NoFourthWall: [[AC:Here lies kayfabe -- Murdered by Vince Russo in 2000]]

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** A tragic example: [[Wrestling/JimCornette Some]] [[Wrestling/RoddyPiper people]] Some people, like Wrestling/JimCornette and Wrestling/RoddyPiper, blamed Vince Russo for the death of Wrestling/OwenHart. While Russo came up with the harnessing spot, no one could have foreseen the tragedy that happened at the 1999 Over the Edge PPV. Hell, even Russo blames himself to this day for letting Owen do that spot (Steve Austin even mentioned comforting him and reminding him it wasn't his fault during the Owen tribute show). [[RuleofCautiousEditingJudgement But it was an accident and let's leave it at that.]]
** A more lighthearted example: He wasn't responsible for angles like Katie Vick or Mae Young giving birth to a hand, as he'd left the WWE by the time these angles hit the screen. He also wasn't responsible for [[Wrestling/AJStyles Claire]] [[Wrestling/ChristopherDaniels Lyn]][[Wrestling/FrankieKazarian ch]], the Claire Lynch angle during the Wrestling/AJStyles vs. Wrestling/ChristopherDaniels & Wrestling/FrankieKazarian feud, considered the "Katie Vick" of TNA -- that happened later in the year, after Russo left the company.
* {{Nepotism}}: The only reason he had a job in TNA was because of Jeff Jarrett (something Jerry Jarrett greatly regrets). Jeff, to his credit, did a lot of editing of his ideas alongside Dutch Mantell -- unfortunately, some of the crap filtered through because Vinny Ru proceeded to endear himself to Dixie, Dixie Carter, which owed to his rehiring in 2013-2014. For how that turned out, see OpenSecret.
* NerdInEvilsHelmet: Babyfaces beware - the man knows his wrestling trivia, including your old ring names, past gimmicks, and every embarrassing angle you've ever been involved in. Also, his entrance music? ''[[Music/BlackSabbath "[[Music/BlackSabbath Iron Man.]]''
]]"
* NoFourthWall: [[AC:Here lies kayfabe -- Murdered by Vince Russo in 2000]]NoFourthWall:



--->"I guess [[ThisIsThePartWhere dis is da paht where]] I'm supposed da play da [[{{Heel}} chickenshit heel]], right?"
** The J.O.B. Squad. They are [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin jobbers...who job]]. '''GENIUS.'''
** [[invoked]] The best example of Russo's influence on WCW could be seen with Jeff Jarrett weeks into his debut. Jarrett declared himself the "[[CreatorsPet Chosen One]]" and renamed his finisher "[[WagTheDirector The Stroke]]" ([-[[{{Nepotism}} hehe!]]-]).

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--->"I --->'''Vince Russo:''' I guess [[ThisIsThePartWhere dis is da paht where]] I'm supposed da play da [[{{Heel}} chickenshit heel]], right?"
right?
** The J.O.B. Squad. They are [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin jobbers... who job]]. '''GENIUS.'''
** [[invoked]] The best example of Russo's influence on WCW could be seen with Jeff Jarrett weeks into his debut. Jarrett declared himself the "[[CreatorsPet Chosen One]]" and renamed his finisher "[[WagTheDirector The Stroke]]" ([-[[{{Nepotism}} hehe!]]-]).Stroke.]]"



* NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity:[[invoked]] He defends the David Arquette title reign by arguing that since people are still talking about the angle (and Russo himself) nearly a decade later, it was a success and a "money-maker". Because nobody ever talks about or makes movies about [[SoWasX bad things that have happened in history]]...

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* NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity:[[invoked]] NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity: He defends invoked it while defending the David Arquette title reign by arguing that since people are still talking about the angle (and Russo himself) nearly a decade later, it was a success and a "money-maker". Because nobody ever talks about or makes movies about [[SoWasX bad things that have happened in history]]...



* ParanoiaFuel: [[invoked]]Once you've been swerved a dozen times, it's hard to believe anything that comes out of Russo's mouth ever again.



-->''I'm going to tell you something right now that you will absolutely not agree with, but I've been a wrestling fan my whole life and I will live and die by this. It's hard enough, believe me, I write this shit, it is hard enough to get somebody over. You will never ever, ever, ever, ever see the Japanese wrestlers or the Mexican wrestlers over in American mainstream wrestling. I'm an American. If I'm watching wrestling here in America, I don't give a shit about a Japanese guy. I don't give a shit about a Mexican guy. I'm from America, and that's what I want to see.''

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-->''I'm -->'''Vince Russo:''' I'm going to tell you something right now that you will absolutely not agree with, but I've been a wrestling fan my whole life and I will live and die by this. It's hard enough, believe me, I write this shit, it is hard enough to get somebody over. You will never ever, ever, ever, ever see the Japanese wrestlers or the Mexican wrestlers over in American mainstream wrestling. I'm an American. If I'm watching wrestling here in America, I don't give a shit about a Japanese guy. I don't give a shit about a Mexican guy. I'm from America, and that's what I want to see.''



* PowerStable: He was the BigBad in WCW for the Powers That Be and the New Blood.
** For [[FunWithAcronyms Sports Entertainment Xtreme]] in TNA.

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* PowerStable: He was the BigBad in WCW for the Powers That Be and the New Blood.
**
Blood. For [[FunWithAcronyms Sports Entertainment Xtreme]] in TNA.



* ReversePsychology:
** To give Russo his due, he's an extremely clever man. In leaked emails from '06, he pitches the idea of dumping Cornette and introducing “an attractive, sexy, female executive” as an on-air talent for ''Impact''. Does he really think someone with the ego of Dixie Carter would hire an attractive actress to represent her on-screen? She'd essentially be hiring somebody to play herself. She probably threw millions at him for being so 'insightful' while burying Corny at the same time.
** ''Make her think it was her idea, too. I'm a genius, I sweah ta gahd.''



* UnexplainedRecovery: Had [[Wrestling/SidEudy Psycho Sid]] return to WCW seemingly healthy after being ran over by a monster truck by Wrestling/BretHart.
* UnknownRival: Wrestling/JimCornette hates Russo so much, he ceased consumption of his [[TrademarkFavoriteFood trademark]] Wendy's triple cheeseburgers and went on a diet. Why? So he can live long enough to outlast Russo ''[[AndThereWasMuchRejoicing and piss on the man's grave]].'' The feud seems to be fairly one-sided, though.
** [[spoiler: Not anymore, [[http://whatculture.com/wwe/vince-russo-claims-jim-cornette-pulled-a-gun-out-on-him-cornette-responds.php if Russo's claim of Cornette pulling a gun on him is anything to go by]].]]

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* UnexplainedRecovery: Had [[Wrestling/SidEudy Psycho Sid]] Sid Vicious]] return to WCW seemingly healthy after being ran over by a monster truck by Wrestling/BretHart.
* UnknownRival: Wrestling/JimCornette hates Russo so much, he ceased consumption of his [[TrademarkFavoriteFood trademark]] Wendy's triple cheeseburgers and went on a diet. Why? So he can live long enough to outlast Russo ''[[AndThereWasMuchRejoicing and piss on the man's grave]].'' The feud seems to be fairly one-sided, though.
** [[spoiler: Not anymore, [[http://whatculture.
''Although the "unknown" part is debatable now [[spoiler:[[http://whatculture.com/wwe/vince-russo-claims-jim-cornette-pulled-a-gun-out-on-him-cornette-responds.php if Russo's claim of Cornette pulling a gun on him is anything to go by]].]]



** Russo's BFF Jeff Jarrett became ''a four-time WCW World Heavyweight Champion in the span of a month and a half.''\\\
Ric Flair beats Jarrett (2nd reign) to win the title. One week later Russo strips Flair of the title and gives it back to Jarrett (3rd reign) on ''Nitro''. Nash beats Jarrett to win the title on ''Thunder'', the following Monday Nash hands the title to Flair who then turns around and loses it back to Jarrett (4th reign) the same night. The title changed hands five times in fourteen days.

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** Russo's BFF Jeff Jarrett became ''a four-time WCW World Heavyweight Champion in the span of a month and a half.''\\\
half'': Ric Flair beats Jarrett (2nd reign) to win the title. One week later Russo strips Flair of the title and gives it back to Jarrett (3rd reign) on ''Nitro''. Nash beats Jarrett to win the title on ''Thunder'', the following Monday Nash hands the title to Flair who then turns around and loses it back to Jarrett (4th reign) the same night. The title changed hands five times in fourteen days.



** Also, the ludicrous Wrestling/KevinNash vs. Wrestling/ScottSteiner vs Wrestling/BillGoldberg match at the New Blood Rising 2000 pay-per-view. Russo promoted this as a "real fight" between the three men. Not a Street Fight, or some other no-disqualification type match; but a shoot involving an actual, 3-way brawl between wrestlers who hated each others' guts (in real life) and refused to job (i.e. willingly lose) to one another in the ring - so they would "just fight", instead. This blew any sort of SuspensionOfDisbelief for casual fans, because if it was a "real" fight then what about all the other matches on the card between supposed rivals (and for that matter, ''every other Pro Wrestling match ever'') - were they all fake, then? If you've read this far, you know the answer.
** Then came the match itself, which played out in standard [[{{Kayfabe}} Pro-Wrestling style]], with no hint of spontaneity. The only nod towards "reality" was Goldberg, who didn't come out at the start of the match and, when he did arrive, "refused to cooperate" with Kevin Nash, not letting Nash Powerbomb him. He then walked out on the match, which led the commentators to remark that he had "deviated from the script". ''*[[{{Facepalm}} slap!]]*''
** So just to be clear, this was a real-life fight between three men who hated each other except it was actually a scripted wrestling match which became real when one of them deviated from the script and then became fake again when the other participants finished the match, but it was [[AchievementsInIgnorance still more real than any of the countless other fake wrestling matches the company had staged]].
** Apparently this idea was so ingenious he used it again ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cZtuwjdPJU the very next month.]]''

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** Also, the ludicrous Wrestling/KevinNash vs. Wrestling/ScottSteiner vs Wrestling/BillGoldberg match at the New ''New Blood Rising 2000 2000'' pay-per-view. Russo promoted this as a "real fight" between the three men. Not a Street Fight, or some other no-disqualification type match; but a shoot involving an actual, 3-way brawl between wrestlers who hated each others' guts (in real life) and refused to job (i.e. willingly lose) to one another in the ring - so they would "just fight", instead. This blew any sort of SuspensionOfDisbelief for casual fans, because if it was a "real" fight then what about all the other matches on the card between supposed rivals (and for that matter, ''every other Pro Wrestling match ever'') - were they all fake, then? If you've read this far, you know the answer.
**
answer. Then came the match itself, which played out in standard [[{{Kayfabe}} Pro-Wrestling style]], with no hint of spontaneity. The only nod towards "reality" was Goldberg, who didn't come out at the start of the match and, when he did arrive, "refused to cooperate" with Kevin Nash, not letting Nash Powerbomb him. He then walked out on the match, which led the commentators to remark that he had "deviated from the script". ''*[[{{Facepalm}} slap!]]*''
**
script." So just to be clear, this was a real-life fight between three men who hated each other except it was actually a scripted wrestling match which became real when one of them deviated from the script and then became fake again when the other participants finished the match, but it was [[AchievementsInIgnorance still more real than any of the countless other fake wrestling matches the company had staged]].
**
staged]]. Apparently this idea was so ingenious he used it again ''[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cZtuwjdPJU the very next month.]]''
17th Jan '16 8:03:10 PM Nyame
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** A more lighthearted example: He wasn't responsible for angles like Katie Vick or Mae Young giving birth to a hand, as he'd left the WWE by the time these angles hit the screen. He also wasn't responsible for [[Wrestling/AJStyles Claire]] [[Lyn Wrestling/ChristopherDaniels]][[ch Wrestling/FrankieKazarian]], the "Katie Vick" of TNA -- that happened later in the year, after Russo left the company.

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** A more lighthearted example: He wasn't responsible for angles like Katie Vick or Mae Young giving birth to a hand, as he'd left the WWE by the time these angles hit the screen. He also wasn't responsible for [[Wrestling/AJStyles Claire]] [[Lyn Wrestling/ChristopherDaniels]][[ch Wrestling/FrankieKazarian]], [[Wrestling/ChristopherDaniels Lyn]][[Wrestling/FrankieKazarian ch]], the "Katie Vick" of TNA -- that happened later in the year, after Russo left the company.
17th Jan '16 8:01:59 PM Nyame
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** A more lighthearted example: He wasn't responsible for angles like Katie Vick or Mae Young giving birth to a hand, as he'd left the WWE by the time these angles hit the screen.

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** A more lighthearted example: He wasn't responsible for angles like Katie Vick or Mae Young giving birth to a hand, as he'd left the WWE by the time these angles hit the screen. He also wasn't responsible for [[Wrestling/AJStyles Claire]] [[Lyn Wrestling/ChristopherDaniels]][[ch Wrestling/FrankieKazarian]], the "Katie Vick" of TNA -- that happened later in the year, after Russo left the company.
16th Jan '16 12:34:38 AM Anddrix
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* ViewersAreGeniuses: Russo's belief when he was booking WCW...except that he believed they can be [[ViewersAreMorons easily fooled and swerved]].

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* ViewersAreGeniuses: Russo's belief when he was booking WCW...except that he believed they can be [[ViewersAreMorons easily fooled and swerved]].swerved.
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* ThrowTheDogABone: While WCW's website was rigged to give the match of night votes Wrestling/BillyKidman might have won to Hogan, Bischoff and Russo did book Kidman to beat Hogan later.
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* TreacherousAdviser: Upon becoming WCW's booker for the second time, Russo claimed that the misuse of cruiserweights was the biggest problem in the company, without acknowledging that he had put the belt on Oklahoma during his first run as booker. Despite this, cruiserweight wrestlers talked about Russo as if he was on their side, though many of them did so [[NoFourthWall for angles in companies where Russo had the book]].
* UnexplainedRecovery: Had [[Wrestling/SidEuldy Psycho Sid]] return to WCW seemingly healthy after being ran over by a monster truck by Wrestling/BretHart.

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* TreacherousAdviser: TreacherousAdvisor: Upon becoming WCW's booker for the second time, Russo claimed that the misuse of cruiserweights was the biggest problem in the company, without acknowledging that he had put the belt on Oklahoma during his first run as booker. Despite this, cruiserweight wrestlers talked about Russo as if he was on their side, though many of them did so [[NoFourthWall for angles in companies where Russo had the book]].
* UnexplainedRecovery: Had [[Wrestling/SidEuldy [[Wrestling/SidEudy Psycho Sid]] return to WCW seemingly healthy after being ran over by a monster truck by Wrestling/BretHart.
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