History WhatTheHellHero / VideoGames

23rd Apr '17 8:12:49 PM nombretomado
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* ''Franchise/TalesSeries'':

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* ''Franchise/TalesSeries'':''VideoGame/TalesSeries'':
23rd Apr '17 6:46:44 AM Kazmahu
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** ''VideoGame/TalesOfBerseria'':
*** [[TokenGoodTeammate Eleanor]] likes to hand these out in response to the party's more amoral actions. The party is composed of a war daemon who's perfectly at peace with himself and his goal of killing his brother, a drifter several times her age who believes everyone should have the freedom to do whatever they want (that doesn't infringe on another's freedom), a sarcastic, nihilistic AmbiguouslyHuman drama queen, and the Lord of Calamity who openly admits her only objective is the cold-blooded revenge-driven murder of a messianic figure and any heroics she perpetrates are completely incidental. Needless to say, Eleanor's attempts to apply structured morality fall comically flat. The only time it sticks is [[spoiler:calling Velvet out on making Laphicet the malak a ReplacementGoldfish for Laphicet her deceased younger brother, and only because Phi had called her out as well and she'd already resolved to change.]]
*** A dramatic and protracted example is [[spoiler:Innomant when he reveals himself to have taken the form of the original Laphicet (Velvet's brother) and proceeds to cruelly point out how pointless all the destruction she'd caused in the name of revenge was, since Laphi was a consenting sacrifice and not a murder victim.]] This drives Velvet nearly psychotic with grief and regret, [[spoiler:or more specifically Despair, the malevolence Innominat wanted to wring from her.]]
22nd Apr '17 4:55:51 PM nombretomado
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* In ''SuikodenII'', during the Tinto arc, [[GenkiGirl Nanami]] asks Riou (your character) to run away. If you choose to, you're eventually forced to confront the other commanders of the army. [[TheStrategist Shu]] will slap Riou in the face, and tells him that his (and in turn, your) cowardice cost one of the generals his life. If you keep refusing, the game ends -- stating that the hero has lost the respect of everyone and the movement collapsed. {{Nice Job Breaking It Hero}}

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* In ''SuikodenII'', ''VideoGame/SuikodenII'', during the Tinto arc, [[GenkiGirl Nanami]] asks Riou (your character) to run away. If you choose to, you're eventually forced to confront the other commanders of the army. [[TheStrategist Shu]] will slap Riou in the face, and tells him that his (and in turn, your) cowardice cost one of the generals his life. If you keep refusing, the game ends -- stating that the hero has lost the respect of everyone and the movement collapsed. {{Nice Job Breaking It Hero}}
21st Apr '17 7:43:42 AM Strafe2409
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** But what really takes the cake is the final boss of ''Undefined Fantastic Object'', Byakuren Hijiri. A former buddhist nun who wanted to create a world where youkai and humans can live in peace, and was sealed away for her efforts. She calls your player character out for FantasticRacism, especially if you chose the character's "must be youkai up to no good again!" path instead of the "'''TREASURE!'''" path. ''Especially'' especially [[BloodKnight Sanae]], who's started to get a little ''too'' into her new job of "youkai extermination".

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** But what really takes the cake is the final boss of ''Undefined Fantastic Object'', Byakuren Hijiri. A former buddhist nun who wanted to create a world where youkai and humans can live in peace, and was sealed away for her efforts. She calls your player character out for FantasticRacism, especially if you chose the character's "must be youkai up to no good again!" path instead of the "'''TREASURE!'''" path. ''Especially'' especially [[BloodKnight Sanae]], who's started to get a little ''too'' into her new job of "youkai extermination".extermination".
** In one of Marisa's endings in ''Legacy of Lunatic Kingdom'', [[spoiler:Marisa calls out Yukari for her seemingly lack of concern of some current events, such as barrier crack in ''Urban Legend in Limbo'' and the Lunarians' invasion in the same main game. Marisa even insists that she's willing to destroy the Lunar Capital's Occult Orb because it is a dangerous object that could cause Gensokyo to descend into chaos. Unfortunately, true to Yukari's [[TheChessmaster na]][[BlueAndOrangeMorality ture]], she denies her plea by stating that none of those events is worth enough to gain her attention. Yukari even tells Marisa that the orb could "change Gensokyo even more" and they're lucky to have gained such information and magical power. This leaves a bad taste in Marisa's mouth and she feels uneasy about it.]]
20th Apr '17 9:35:25 AM FF32
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* Yukari, in the wake of seeing how strong and genuine the friendship of the [[{{VideoGame/Persona4}} Investigation Team]] is, again calls out the senpai of SEES in the spinoff game ''{{VideoGame/Persona Q}}'' for being secretive and acting superior. They actually do apologize, and [[spoiler:the end of the P3 route has them holding a dinner party in the dorm together.]] That said, Yukari herself also gets called out in turn by Rise, who says that part of the problem is that Yukari doesn't try to express her concerns to the third-years of her group (Fuuka, one of the few SEES members Yukari confides in, is quite surprised and sad to learn that Yukari felt so troubled).

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* Yukari, in the wake of seeing how strong and genuine the friendship of the [[{{VideoGame/Persona4}} Investigation Team]] is, again calls out the senpai of SEES in the spinoff game ''{{VideoGame/Persona Q}}'' ''VideoGame/PersonaQShadowOfTheLabyrinth'' for being secretive and acting superior. They actually do apologize, and [[spoiler:the end of the P3 route has them holding a dinner party in the dorm together.]] That said, Yukari herself also gets called out in turn by Rise, who says that part of the problem is that Yukari doesn't try to express her concerns to the third-years of her group (Fuuka, one of the few SEES members Yukari confides in, is quite surprised and sad to learn that Yukari felt so troubled).
13th Apr '17 10:15:41 AM BeerBaron
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* ''Franchise/TheElderScrolls''
** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Morrowind]]'', Imperial [[TheSpymaster Spymaster]] of the Blades and primary QuestGiver for the first act of the main quest, Caius Cosades, will give an epic one of these speeches including [[SuddenlyShouting Sudden SHOUTING]] and a major GetOut should the PlayerCharacter kill a fellow Blade or kill one of the informants he sends you to talk to. He'll permanently refuse to work with you any more, thus breaking the primary way of beating the game's main quest.
** In ''[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsVSkyrim Skyrim]]'', Arngeir of the Greybeards will give the PlayerCharacter such a speech if you [[spoiler:kill their leader, the dragon Paarthurnax, for the Blades]]. He'll deny you any further benefits that the Greybeards provide.
11th Apr '17 7:48:38 AM 32_Footsteps
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* Similarly to the Bioware example above, many of the ''Series/{{Fallout}}'' games feature party members who will call you out on actions that offend their particular code of ethics.

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* Similarly to the Bioware example above, many of the ''Series/{{Fallout}}'' ''Franchise/{{Fallout}}'' games feature party members who will call you out on actions that offend their particular code of ethics.



** In Fallout 4, choosing to [[spoiler:side with [[BigBad the Institute]]]] earns some incredibly harsh reactions from three of your most moral companions: a chilly WasItReallyWorthIt from Preston Garvey, a bitter diatribe from Nick Valentine, and a rant given on the verge of tears from Piper Wright.

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** In Fallout 4, ''VideoGame/{{Fallout 4}}'', choosing to [[spoiler:side with [[BigBad the Institute]]]] earns some incredibly harsh reactions from three of your most moral companions: a chilly WasItReallyWorthIt from Preston Garvey, a bitter diatribe from Nick Valentine, and a rant given on the verge of tears from Piper Wright.



** If you return to Altair right after [[DirtyCoward Gordon]] joins, Hilda will tear into Gordon, as had he not run away when the party needed to enter Kashaun Keep, [[spoiler:Josef would not have had to die while helping the heroes obtain the Goddess's Bell]].

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** If In ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyII'', if you return to Altair right after [[DirtyCoward Gordon]] joins, Hilda will tear into Gordon, as had he not run away when the party needed to enter Kashaun Keep, [[spoiler:Josef would not have had to die while helping the heroes obtain the Goddess's Bell]].
9th Mar '17 2:28:06 AM CountDorku
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* Subverted in ''VideoGame/Borderlands2''. The main villain keeps calling you up to explain what an awful person you are, especially after you kill [[spoiler:his daughter]] in the WhamLevel...and they invariably fall flat, because basically nothing any of the Vault Hunters have done (including Salvador, whose WantedPoster includes ''cannibalism'') could possibly match up to what Jack gets up to, ''especially'' his treatment of the person you killed [[DeathSeeker at their own request]], and the narrative is very much aware of this.

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* Subverted in ''VideoGame/Borderlands2''. The main villain keeps calling you up to explain what an awful person you are, especially after you kill [[spoiler:his daughter]] in the WhamLevel...WhamEpisode...and they invariably fall flat, because basically nothing any of the Vault Hunters have done (including Salvador, whose WantedPoster includes ''cannibalism'') could possibly match up to what Jack gets up to, ''especially'' his treatment of the person you killed [[DeathSeeker at their own request]], and the narrative is very much aware of this.
9th Mar '17 2:26:42 AM CountDorku
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* Subverted in ''VideoGame/Borderlands2''. The main villain keeps calling you up to explain what an awful person you are, especially after you kill [[spoiler:his daughter]] in the WhamLevel...and they invariably fall flat, because basically nothing any of the Vault Hunters have done (including Salvador, whose WantedPoster includes ''cannibalism'') could possibly match up to what Jack gets up to, ''especially'' his treatment of the person you killed [[DeathSeeker at their own request]], and the narrative is very much aware of this.
6th Mar '17 7:03:59 PM superkeijikun
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*** Preston will be pissed if you take over any settlements for Raiders with the ''Nuka-World'' DLC, and if the settlement is one that was under the Minutemen's protection, he will disavow you completely.
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