History WhatTheHellHero / MythologyAndReligion

8th May '16 3:10:29 PM Ninja857142
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* Literature/TheBible
** King David, slayer of Goliath, the measure of righteousness by which all other kings of Israel are measured--and adulterer guilty of [[MurderTheHypotenuse Murdering The Hypotenuse]] by inventing the UriahGambit. God sends Nathan to call him out, and while David repents immediately upon hearing the rebuke, [[LoveRuinsTheRealm the damage has been done]]. In fact, God--via Nathan--tells David a story about a rich man who killed a neighbor's pet sheep for his dinner despite having a large flock of his own. (David had several wives at the time.) David is furious and decrees that the rich man should die, and four sheep of his flock should be given to the wronged neighbor. In a brilliantly delivered TwistEnding, God essentially gets David to call ''himself'' out.
---> '''David:''' As the LORD liveth, the man that hath done this thing shall surely die: And he shall restore the lamb fourfold, because he did this thing, and because he had no pity.
---> '''Nathan:''' Thou art the man!

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* Literature/TheBible
Literature/TheBible:
** King David, slayer of Goliath, the measure of righteousness by which all other kings of Israel are measured--and adulterer guilty of [[MurderTheHypotenuse Murdering The Hypotenuse]] by inventing the UriahGambit. God sends Nathan to call him out, and while David repents immediately upon hearing the rebuke, [[LoveRuinsTheRealm the damage has been done]]. In fact, God--via Nathan--tells David a story about a rich man who killed a neighbor's pet sheep for his dinner despite having a large flock of his own. own (David had several wives at the time.) time). David is furious and decrees that the rich man should die, and four sheep of his flock should be given to the wronged neighbor. In a brilliantly delivered TwistEnding, God essentially gets David to call ''himself'' out.
---> '''David:''' As the LORD liveth, the man that hath done this thing shall surely die: And he shall restore the lamb fourfold, because he did this thing, and because he had no pity.
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pity.\\
'''Nathan:''' Thou art the man!



** The Book of Job has Job holding a whole WhatTheHellHero ''court case'' over God having apparently taken away his possessions, children, and health without cause. Job's friends keep trying to convince him that he must have done something to deserve the punishment (of which he could therefore repent), while Job holds the line and maintains his innocence before God. In spite of this, however, Job never really loses faith in God, nor does he directly accuse God of sin (which creates a seemingly paradoxical situation: why do good, God-fearing people suffer? Why should they bother to serve God?). Job's friends grow increasingly accusative as Job defends himself. Later, God counters Job's complaints, not by explaining that He had a deal with Satan, but by basically invoking complete omniscience, omnipotence, and sovereignty over all creation. God also tells the friends that unlike Job, they were wrong about Him, and ''they'' are the ones who end up having to repent! Afterwards, God doubles Job's prosperity, giving him twice his prior crops and wealth... but only the same amount of children. Apparently, God considered Job to have had twice as much children, because the first ten were [[{{Heaven}} living with Him]].

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** The Book of Job has Job holding a whole WhatTheHellHero ''court case'' over God having apparently seemingly taken away his possessions, killed his children, and afflicted his health without cause.cause (in truth, Satan did this, but God allowed him to do so). Job's friends keep trying to convince him that he must have done something to deserve the punishment (of which he could therefore repent), while Job holds the line and maintains his innocence before God. In spite of this, however, Job never really loses faith in God, nor does he directly accuse God of sin (which creates a seemingly paradoxical situation: why do good, God-fearing people suffer? Why should they even bother to serve God?).be righteous?). Job's friends grow increasingly accusative as Job defends himself. Later, God counters Job's complaints, not by explaining that He had a deal with Satan, but by basically invoking complete omniscience, omnipotence, and sovereignty over all creation. God also tells the friends that unlike Job, they were wrong about Him, and ''they'' are the ones who end up having to repent! Afterwards, God doubles Job's prosperity, giving him twice his prior crops and wealth... but only the same amount of children. Apparently, God considered Job to have had twice as much children, because the first ten were [[{{Heaven}} living with Him]].
8th May '16 3:00:22 PM Ninja857142
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** Later, after Babylon had been conquered, King Darius of Medea issues a decree that all should worship him and him alone for the next 30 days, under pain of being cast into the lion's den. This was, of course a plot by Daniel's enemies to trap Daniel into committing a capital crime. Daniel, of course, ignores the unjust edict. When the King find out, he tries to revoke the order, [[WhatHaveIDone only to realize that royal edicts are irrevocable, so Daniel must be cast into the lion's den.]] King Darius stays awake all night fasting and praying for Daniel's safety [[LoopholeAbuse trusting that Daniel's God would save him from the lions, and noting that the punishment was to be cast into the lion's den, not to be put to death, so if Daniel survived the sentence, the terms of the decree would be fulfilled, and Daniel could live.]]
8th May '16 2:59:09 PM Ninja857142
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** King David, slayer of Goliath, the measure of righteousness by which all other kings of Israel are measured--and adulterer guilty of [[MurderTheHypotenuse Murdering The Hypotenuse]] by inventing the UriahGambit. God sends Nathan to call him out, and while David repents immediately upon hearing the rebuke, [[LoveRuinsTheRealm the damage has been done]]. It gets better. God--via Nathan--tells David a story about a rich man who killed a neighbor's pet sheep for his dinner despite having a large flock of his own. (David had several wives at the time.) David is furious and decrees that the rich man should die, and four sheep of his flock should be given to the wronged neighbor. In a brilliantly delivered TwistEnding, God essentially gets David to call ''himself'' out.

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** King David, slayer of Goliath, the measure of righteousness by which all other kings of Israel are measured--and adulterer guilty of [[MurderTheHypotenuse Murdering The Hypotenuse]] by inventing the UriahGambit. God sends Nathan to call him out, and while David repents immediately upon hearing the rebuke, [[LoveRuinsTheRealm the damage has been done]]. It gets better. In fact, God--via Nathan--tells David a story about a rich man who killed a neighbor's pet sheep for his dinner despite having a large flock of his own. (David had several wives at the time.) David is furious and decrees that the rich man should die, and four sheep of his flock should be given to the wronged neighbor. In a brilliantly delivered TwistEnding, God essentially gets David to call ''himself'' out.



** The Book of Job has Job holding a whole WhatTheHellHero ''court case'' over God's having apparently taken away his possessions, children, and health without cause. Job's friends keep trying to convince him that he must have done something to deserve the punishment (of which he could therefore repent), while Job holds the line and maintains his innocence before God. In spite of this, however, Job never really loses faith in God, nor does he directly accuse God of sin (which creates a paradoxical situation of sorts for him). Later, God counters Job's charges, not by explaining that He had a deal with Satan, but by invoking something like an OmniscientMoralityLicense. Ultimately, God does tell the friends that "You have not spoken rightly of me as Job has" and ''they'' are the ones who end up having to repent! God also doubles Job's life after, giving him twice his prior crops and wealth... but only the same amount of children. Apparently, God considered Job to have had twice as much children, because the first ten children were [[{{Heaven}} living with Him]].
** During the Last Supper, Peter says that he will follow Jesus even into death, if need be. Jesus responds that Peter will deny him three times that very day. Flash forward a few hours: while Jesus is on trial, some people recognize Peter as one of his followers. Forgetting all about the earlier conversation, Peter denies the he knows Jesus, with his denials becoming more and more emphatic each time he's asked. Immediately after the third such denial a rooster crows, and Jesus just turns and looks at him. Peter is so shamed by that look that he apparently gives up on Christianity altogether and goes back to his old life as a fisherman. [[TenMinuteRetirement He gets better, though]].
** Better enough for Jesus to apparently have made him the "rock" of Christianity, thus beginning the Church. Apparently the What the Hell Hero moment really did wonders on him.

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** The Book of Job has Job holding a whole WhatTheHellHero ''court case'' over God's God having apparently taken away his possessions, children, and health without cause. Job's friends keep trying to convince him that he must have done something to deserve the punishment (of which he could therefore repent), while Job holds the line and maintains his innocence before God. In spite of this, however, Job never really loses faith in God, nor does he directly accuse God of sin (which creates a seemingly paradoxical situation of sorts for him). situation: why do good, God-fearing people suffer? Why should they bother to serve God?). Job's friends grow increasingly accusative as Job defends himself. Later, God counters Job's charges, complaints, not by explaining that He had a deal with Satan, but by basically invoking something like an OmniscientMoralityLicense. Ultimately, complete omniscience, omnipotence, and sovereignty over all creation. God does tell also tells the friends that "You have not spoken rightly of me as Job has" unlike Job, they were wrong about Him, and ''they'' are the ones who end up having to repent! Afterwards, God also doubles Job's life after, prosperity, giving him twice his prior crops and wealth... but only the same amount of children. Apparently, God considered Job to have had twice as much children, because the first ten children were [[{{Heaven}} living with Him]].
** During the Last Supper, Peter says that he will follow Jesus even into death, if need be. Jesus responds that Peter will deny him three times that very day. Flash forward a few hours: while Jesus is on trial, some people recognize Peter as one of his followers. Forgetting all about the earlier conversation, Peter denies the he knows Jesus, with his denials becoming more and more emphatic each time he's asked. Immediately after the third such denial a rooster crows, and Jesus just turns and looks at him. Peter is so shamed by that look that he apparently gives up on Christianity altogether and goes back to his old life as a fisherman. [[TenMinuteRetirement He gets better, though]].
** Better enough for
though]]; Jesus to apparently have made him restores and reinstates Peter in the "rock" final chapter of Christianity, thus beginning the Church. Apparently the What the Hell Hero moment really did wonders on him.John.
8th May '16 2:44:39 PM Ninja857142
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* In Literature/TheBible, King David, slayer of Goliath, the measure of righteousness by which all other kings of Israel are measured--and adulterer guilty of [[MurderTheHypotenuse Murdering The Hypotenuse]] by inventing the UriahGambit. God sends Nathan to call him out, and while David repents immediately upon hearing the rebuke, [[LoveRuinsTheRealm the damage has been done]].
** It gets better. God--via Nathan--tells David a story about a rich man who killed a neighbor's pet sheep for his dinner despite having a large flock of his own. (David had several wives at the time.) David is furious and decrees that the rich man should die, and four sheep of his flock should be given to the wronged neighbor. In a brilliantly delivered TwistEnding, God essentially gets David to call ''himself'' out.
--> '''David:''' As the LORD liveth, the man that hath done this thing shall surely die: And he shall restore the lamb fourfold, because he did this thing, and because he had no pity.
--> '''Nathan:''' Thou art the man!
* In the [[Literature/TheBible Book of Daniel]], King Nebuchadnezzer of Babylon does a lot of stupid things, including threatening his seers with death unless they completed an impossible task and building a giant statue, forcing people to worship it, and attempting to kill 3 of his official who wouldn't, because they were Jewish. Both times, God sorts out the problem, and Nebuchadnezzer appears to have been converted so God lets him off. Then he breaks his promise one day by looking over his kingdom and calling himself God. So Daniel shows up to inform him that his punishment from God is that he will go insane for seven years and think he's an animal, which soon comes to pass.

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* In Literature/TheBible, Literature/TheBible
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King David, slayer of Goliath, the measure of righteousness by which all other kings of Israel are measured--and adulterer guilty of [[MurderTheHypotenuse Murdering The Hypotenuse]] by inventing the UriahGambit. God sends Nathan to call him out, and while David repents immediately upon hearing the rebuke, [[LoveRuinsTheRealm the damage has been done]].
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done]]. It gets better. God--via Nathan--tells David a story about a rich man who killed a neighbor's pet sheep for his dinner despite having a large flock of his own. (David had several wives at the time.) David is furious and decrees that the rich man should die, and four sheep of his flock should be given to the wronged neighbor. In a brilliantly delivered TwistEnding, God essentially gets David to call ''himself'' out.
--> ---> '''David:''' As the LORD liveth, the man that hath done this thing shall surely die: And he shall restore the lamb fourfold, because he did this thing, and because he had no pity.
--> ---> '''Nathan:''' Thou art the man!
* ** In the [[Literature/TheBible Book of Daniel]], King Nebuchadnezzer of Babylon does a lot of stupid things, including threatening his seers with death unless they completed an impossible task and building a giant statue, forcing people to worship it, and attempting to kill 3 of his official who wouldn't, because they were Jewish. Both times, God sorts out the problem, and Nebuchadnezzer appears to have been converted so God lets him off. Then he breaks his promise one day by looking over his kingdom and calling himself God. So Daniel shows up to inform him that his punishment from God is that he will go insane for seven years and think he's an animal, which soon comes to pass.



* The Book of Job has Job holding a whole WhatTheHellHero ''court case'' over God's having apparently punished him without cause. Job's friends keep trying to convince him that he must have done something to deserve the punishment (of which he could therefore repent), while Job holds the line and insists on his day in court with God. Subverted in part in that God counters Job's charges, not by explaining that He had a bet with Satan, but by invoking something like an OmniscientMoralityLicense. Ultimately, however, He does tell the friends that "You have not spoken rightly of me as Job has" and ''they'' are the ones who end up having to repent!
** As a quick note, God also hits the ResetButton and [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming doubled his crops, wealth and even his family]].
** [[FridgeHorror But his original family is still dead.]]
*** But Job was a faithful believer in the Resurrection of the Dead, so he rightly expected to be reunited with his dead children one day.
*** In support of the above, Job's property is restored double - twice as many oxen, camels, etc. as he had before - but his family is restored once over. This tends to suggest that his first ten children are still counted, and will be restored to him at the resurrection.
* During the Last Supper, Peter says that he will follow Jesus even into death, if need be. Jesus responds that Peter will deny him three times that very day. Flash forward a few hours: while Jesus is on trial, some people recognize Peter as one of his followers. Forgetting all about the earlier conversation, Peter denies the he knows Jesus, with his denials becoming more and more emphatic each time he's asked. Immediately after the third such denial a rooster crows, and Jesus just turns and looks at him. Peter is so shamed by that look that he apparently gives up on Christianity altogether and goes back to his old life as a fisherman. [[TenMinuteRetirement He gets better, though]].

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* ** The Book of Job has Job holding a whole WhatTheHellHero ''court case'' over God's having apparently punished him taken away his possessions, children, and health without cause. Job's friends keep trying to convince him that he must have done something to deserve the punishment (of which he could therefore repent), while Job holds the line and insists on maintains his day in court with innocence before God. Subverted In spite of this, however, Job never really loses faith in part in that God, nor does he directly accuse God of sin (which creates a paradoxical situation of sorts for him). Later, God counters Job's charges, not by explaining that He had a bet deal with Satan, but by invoking something like an OmniscientMoralityLicense. Ultimately, however, He God does tell the friends that "You have not spoken rightly of me as Job has" and ''they'' are the ones who end up having to repent!
** As a quick note,
repent! God also hits the ResetButton and [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming doubled his crops, wealth and even his family]].
** [[FridgeHorror But his original family is still dead.]]
*** But Job was a faithful believer in the Resurrection of the Dead, so he rightly expected to be reunited with his dead children one day.
*** In support of the above,
doubles Job's property is restored double - life after, giving him twice his prior crops and wealth... but only the same amount of children. Apparently, God considered Job to have had twice as many oxen, camels, etc. as he had before - but his family is restored once over. This tends to suggest that his much children, because the first ten children are still counted, and will be restored to him at the resurrection.
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were [[{{Heaven}} living with Him]].
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During the Last Supper, Peter says that he will follow Jesus even into death, if need be. Jesus responds that Peter will deny him three times that very day. Flash forward a few hours: while Jesus is on trial, some people recognize Peter as one of his followers. Forgetting all about the earlier conversation, Peter denies the he knows Jesus, with his denials becoming more and more emphatic each time he's asked. Immediately after the third such denial a rooster crows, and Jesus just turns and looks at him. Peter is so shamed by that look that he apparently gives up on Christianity altogether and goes back to his old life as a fisherman. [[TenMinuteRetirement He gets better, though]].



* In The Book of Mark, Jesus gives one to his disciples after they inform him that they commanded a man with the ability to exorcise evil spirits to stop because he was not a follower of Christ and tells them that as he was using his powers to do good deeds, they should see him as an ally and not an enemy.

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* ** In The Book of Mark, Jesus gives one to his disciples after they inform him that they commanded a man with the ability to exorcise evil spirits to stop because he was not a follower of Christ and tells them that as he was using his powers to do good deeds, they should see him as an ally and not an enemy.
8th Mar '16 9:31:57 PM MsChibi
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* During the Last Supper, Peter says that he will follow Jesus even into death, if need be. Jesus responds that Peter will deny him three times that very day. Flash forward a few hours: while Jesus is on trial, some people recognize Peter as one of his followers. Forgetting all about the earlier conversation, Peter denies the he knows Jesus, with his denials becoming more and more emphatic each time he's asked. Immediately after the third such denial a rooster crows, and Jesus just turns and looks at him. Peter is so shamed by that look that he apparently gives up on Christianity altogether and goes back to his old life as a fisherman. He gets better, though.

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* During the Last Supper, Peter says that he will follow Jesus even into death, if need be. Jesus responds that Peter will deny him three times that very day. Flash forward a few hours: while Jesus is on trial, some people recognize Peter as one of his followers. Forgetting all about the earlier conversation, Peter denies the he knows Jesus, with his denials becoming more and more emphatic each time he's asked. Immediately after the third such denial a rooster crows, and Jesus just turns and looks at him. Peter is so shamed by that look that he apparently gives up on Christianity altogether and goes back to his old life as a fisherman. [[TenMinuteRetirement He gets better, though.though]].
3rd Mar '16 6:30:26 AM Kalmbach
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* In Literature/TheBible, King David, slayer of Goliath, the measure of righteousness by which all other kings of Israel are measured--and adulterer guilty of [[MurderTheHypotenuse Murdering The Hypotenuse]]. God sends Nathan to call him out, and while David repents immediately upon hearing the rebuke, [[LoveRuinsTheRealm the damage has been done]].

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* In Literature/TheBible, King David, slayer of Goliath, the measure of righteousness by which all other kings of Israel are measured--and adulterer guilty of [[MurderTheHypotenuse Murdering The Hypotenuse]].Hypotenuse]] by inventing the UriahGambit. God sends Nathan to call him out, and while David repents immediately upon hearing the rebuke, [[LoveRuinsTheRealm the damage has been done]].
17th Sep '15 2:11:22 PM ScorpiusOB1
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* Apollo, the Greek deity of the sun and the arts, once competed in a music competition with a lesser river spirit. When Apollo found out that he couldn't beat the river spirit, he challenged the river spirit to do an impossible task: play on a flute and sing at the same time. When said deity couldn't do that, Apollo announced himself to be the winner, and ordered the challenger to be skinned alive. In some myths, King Midas called him on his total jackassery (others, he simply voted for the other guy until Apollo did the MovingTheGoalposts bit), but Apollo just gave him donkey ears to shut him up.

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* Apollo, the Greek deity of the sun and the arts, once competed in a music competition with a lesser river spirit.spirit[[note]]Other versions talk instead of a satyr named Marsyas[[/note]]. When Apollo found out that he couldn't beat the river spirit, he challenged the river spirit to do an impossible task: play on a flute and sing at the same time. When said deity couldn't do that, Apollo announced himself to be the winner, and ordered the challenger to be skinned alive. In some myths, King Midas called him on his total jackassery (others, he simply voted for the other guy until Apollo did the MovingTheGoalposts bit), but Apollo just gave him donkey ears to shut him up.
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* In The Book of Mark, Jesus gives one to his disciples after they inform him that they commanded a man with the ability to exorcise evil spirits to stop because he was not a follower of Christ and tells them that as he was using his powers to do good deeds, they should see him as an ally and not an enemy.
5th Feb '15 2:47:16 PM Taeya
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***In support of the above, Job's property is restored double - twice as many oxen, camels, etc. as he had before - but his family is restored once over. This tends to suggest that his first ten children are still counted, and will be restored to him at the resurrection.
11th Oct '14 9:07:31 PM Nutster
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** Better enough for Jesus to apparently have made him the "rock" of Christianity, thus beginning Catholicism. Apparently the What the Hell Hero moment really did wonders on him.

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** Better enough for Jesus to apparently have made him the "rock" of Christianity, thus beginning Catholicism.the Church. Apparently the What the Hell Hero moment really did wonders on him.
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