History WhatTheHellHero / ComicBooks

20th Sep '16 1:55:56 AM Tron80
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* Done rather humourously in an arc of ''Comicbook/UltimateSpiderMan'' which sees Peter mind-swapped with Logan by Jean Grey she gets sick of Logan hitting on her. For Peter, the result was as thus: he had [[HumiliationConga woken up in Wolverine's body, freaked out, tried to call the X-Men for help (and got laughed at for his trouble,) accidentally cut off his own fingers, got a car flipped over on him, gotten tased, arrested and shot in the face by anti-mutite police, and then had to take crap from Wolverine (who nearly got him kicked out of school, lipped off to Aunt May, tried to get some from Mary Jane and nearly blew Peter's secret identity) about his life.]] Although swapping his brain with Peter was an unintended side-effect, not surprisingly, Peter -- who didn't ask for any of this, has had an utterly shitty experience because of it, and doesn't appreciate Jean's rather glib attitude to the situation -- is quick to give her a rather [[ClusterFBomb expletive-strewn]] piece of his mind once it's all sorted out. Once he's stormed off, Jean is left rather shaken and promising to send him a basket of something in apology. That would piss anyone off.

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* Done rather humourously in an arc of ''Comicbook/UltimateSpiderMan'' which sees Peter mind-swapped with Logan by Jean Grey Comicbook/JeanGrey she gets sick of Logan hitting on her. For Peter, the result was as thus: he had [[HumiliationConga woken up in Wolverine's body, freaked out, tried to call the X-Men for help (and got laughed at for his trouble,) accidentally cut off his own fingers, got a car flipped over on him, gotten tased, arrested and shot in the face by anti-mutite police, and then had to take crap from Wolverine (who nearly got him kicked out of school, lipped off to Aunt May, tried to get some from Mary Jane and nearly blew Peter's secret identity) about his life.]] Although swapping his brain with Peter was an unintended side-effect, not surprisingly, Peter -- who didn't ask for any of this, has had an utterly shitty experience because of it, and doesn't appreciate Jean's rather glib attitude to the situation -- is quick to give her a rather [[ClusterFBomb expletive-strewn]] piece of his mind once it's all sorted out. Once he's stormed off, Jean is left rather shaken and promising to send him a basket of something in apology. That would piss anyone off.
20th Sep '16 1:54:41 AM Tron80
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** ''ComicBook/ElseworldsFinestSupergirlAndBatgirl'': Supergirl can't believe Comicbook/{{Batgirl}} appears more interested in keeping her out of Gotham than in catching the freaking Joker.
--->'''Batgirl:''' Pay attention you are violating my borders. Leave now, and you'll avoid further pain.\\
'''Supergirl:''' What?! Lex Luthor is being tortured somewhere in Gotham, and you're attacking ME? Is keeping me out of Gotham worth his life?\\
'''Batgirl:''' You know the rules. No paranormals in Gotham.\\
'''Supergirl:''' You're sick! This is Lex Luthor we're talking about! Or are people who live in Gotham the only ones worth protecting?
16th Sep '16 12:06:52 AM narm00
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** Hulk also gave one to Tony and the other members of the Illuminati during WorldWarHulk. Hulk wanted revenge on the Illuminati for trying to exile him to a supposedly peaceful world, though in reality he ended up on a very hostile world which he eventually brought peace to and found happiness on, only to have the very ship that brought him there explode, ruining the planet and [[spoiler:killing his new wife]]. This was subject to a very blatant AuthorsSavingThrow when it was revealed that the ship couldn't have possibly ravaged a planet itself by exploding; rather, one of Hulk's [[PoisonousFriend allies]] had tampered with the ship's core, resulting in the aforementioned catastrophe. While this is seemingly meant to absolve the Illuminati of their crimes, the fact remains that their original plan failed horribly, resulting in them more-or-less making the Hulk someone else's problem while at the same time handing the means to creating an EarthShatteringKaboom to those same persons in the same package. If we think about it, most of Illuminati has their moments of that. [[ComicBook/WarOfKings Not so long ago]], [[spoiler:Black Bolt]] gets one about his plan to end a cosmic war from all his family, advisors, and [[spoiler:Vulcan himself]].

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** Hulk also gave one to Tony and the other members of the Illuminati during WorldWarHulk. Hulk wanted revenge on the Illuminati for trying to exile him to a supposedly peaceful world, though in reality he ended up on a very hostile world which he eventually brought peace to and found happiness on, only to have the very ship that brought him there explode, ruining the planet and [[spoiler:killing his new wife]]. This was subject to a very blatant AuthorsSavingThrow when it was revealed that the ship couldn't have possibly ravaged a planet itself by exploding; rather, one of Hulk's [[PoisonousFriend allies]] had tampered with the ship's core, resulting in the aforementioned catastrophe. While this is seemingly meant to absolve the Illuminati of their crimes, the fact remains that their original plan failed horribly, resulting in them more-or-less making the Hulk someone else's problem while at the same time handing the means to creating an EarthShatteringKaboom to those same persons in the same package. If we think about it, most of the Illuminati has have their moments of that. [[ComicBook/WarOfKings Not so long ago]], [[spoiler:Black Bolt]] gets one about his plan to end a cosmic war from all his family, advisors, and [[spoiler:Vulcan himself]].



* ''ComicBook/WarOfKings'': Many, many characters has this reaction towards [[spoiler:[[ComicBook/TheInhumans Black Bolt]]'s AssimilationPlot.]] Then it got worse - [[spoiler:he gets one WhatTheHellHero from VULCAN!]]

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* ''ComicBook/WarOfKings'': Many, many characters has have this reaction towards [[spoiler:[[ComicBook/TheInhumans Black Bolt]]'s AssimilationPlot.]] Then it got worse - [[spoiler:he gets one WhatTheHellHero from VULCAN!]]



** In X-Men's main series this is followed by Kitty tearing Peter a new one for trying to justify Illyana's behavior and not accepting that she is not as innocent as she used to be. Then Peter gives Scott another one again, for [[spoiler: planning to make Illyana new avatar of Cyttorak, a.k.a. TheJuggernaut]] but Scott lists several arguments at his defense. And then Kitty gives one to Peter again, for [[spoiler: becoming new Juggernaut]]. Also, Cyclops gives one to Mayor Sinclair for [[spoiler: planning to destroy Utopia in the case X-Men won't stop Juggernaut]].

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** In X-Men's main series this is followed by Kitty tearing Peter a new one for trying to justify Illyana's behavior and not accepting that she is not as innocent as she used to be. Then Peter gives Scott another one again, for [[spoiler: planning to make Illyana the new avatar of Cyttorak, a.k.a. TheJuggernaut]] but Scott lists several arguments at his defense. And then Kitty gives one to Peter again, for [[spoiler: becoming the new Juggernaut]]. Also, Cyclops gives one to Mayor Sinclair for [[spoiler: planning to destroy Utopia in the case the X-Men won't stop Juggernaut]].



* Parodied in X-Men, when mutants has to team up with [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Future Foundation]] and this exchange occures:

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* Parodied in X-Men, when mutants has have to team up with the [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Future Foundation]] and this exchange occures:



-->'''The Thing:'''' Oh yeah? Was that ComicBook/{{Magneto}} I saw sitting at the conference table?

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-->'''The Thing:'''' Thing:''' Oh yeah? Was that ComicBook/{{Magneto}} I saw sitting at the conference table?



* In the BOOM Comics revival of ''ComicBook/DarkwingDuck'' Gosalyn and Launchpad learns the reason why Darkwing gave up being a hero was because [[spoiler:Negaduck had learned his identity and was upstaged by a bunch of robots and decided to keep Gosalyn in a fancy school.]] Gosalyn reads him the riot act:
-->'''Gosalyn:''' I'm sorry, dad, but I've waited a year and a half to say this, but... ''[[spins Darkwing's chair]]'' '''Are You Crazy?!''' You're always saying '''"LetsGetDangerous"'''! Not '''"LetsGetDangerous Unless They Find Out Where We Live"'''! And certainly not '''"LetsGetDangerous Until We Can't Afford It!"'''

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* In the BOOM Comics revival of ''ComicBook/DarkwingDuck'' Gosalyn and Launchpad learns learn the reason why Darkwing gave up being a hero was because [[spoiler:Negaduck had learned his identity and he was upstaged by a bunch of robots and decided to keep Gosalyn in a fancy school.]] Gosalyn reads him the riot act:
-->'''Gosalyn:''' I'm sorry, dad, but I've waited a year and a half to say this, but... ''[[spins ''[spins Darkwing's chair]]'' chair]'' '''Are You Crazy?!''' You're always saying '''"LetsGetDangerous"'''! Not '''"LetsGetDangerous Unless They Find Out Where We Live"'''! And certainly not '''"LetsGetDangerous Until We Can't Afford It!"'''
4th Sep '16 5:40:27 AM Blazer
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* As the page image shows, there was a run in the Bronze Age segment of ''UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks'' where ComicBook/GreenLantern and ComicBook/GreenArrow went traveling America together, confronting issues of the time. At one point, an elderly African-American asks where the (white) Hal Jordan was to help his people when he was so willing to help alien beings throughout the galaxy.

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* As the page image shows, there was a run in the Bronze Age segment of ''UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks'' where ComicBook/GreenLantern and ComicBook/GreenArrow went traveling America together, confronting issues of the time. At one point, What kicks this off is when an elderly African-American asks where the (white) black man confronts Hal Jordan over the fact that he saves races of all different skin colors but does nothing for those in his home. When he actually does so, Ollie ends up snapping at both Hal and the Guardians of the Universe, Hal for apologizing to the Guardians for doing what he felt was to help his people when he was so willing to help alien beings throughout the galaxy.right thing and the Guardians for ignoring the plight of the Earthlings and trying to be high and mighty about it. The Guardians realizes Ollie has a point and one of them joins them on their journey.
2nd Aug '16 8:50:42 AM Tron80
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** [[ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey Oracle]] also got a rather epic calling out after Huntress realized her "missions" were really a covert therapy session. Offended that Barbara was trying to "fix" her, she left the team, but not without giving one last parting shot:
--->'''Huntress:''' You left Gotham because you wanted to get away from Batman's influence. But you turned out just like him.
--->'''Oracle:''' Huntress...I...
--->'''Huntress:''' ''[[PunctuatedForEmphasis Just. Like. Him.]]''

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** [[ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey Oracle]] ''ComicBook/BirdsOfPrey'': Oracle also got a rather epic calling out after Huntress realized her "missions" were really a covert therapy session. Offended that Barbara was trying to "fix" her, she left the team, but not without giving one last parting shot:
--->'''Huntress:''' You left Gotham because you wanted to get away from Batman's influence. But you turned out just like him.
--->'''Oracle:''' Huntress...I...
--->'''Huntress:'''
him.\\
'''Oracle:''' Huntress... I...\\
'''Huntress:'''
''[[PunctuatedForEmphasis Just. Like. Him.]]''



* In ''Franchise/{{Superman}}/ComicBook/{{Shazam}}: [[http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/3657027.html#cutid1 First Thunder]],'' Supes plans to give Captain Marvel one of these after he went on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge over the death of a young boy. After he a.) finds Cap crying, b.) learns that the murdered boy was his best friend, and c.) learns that Cap is [[OlderAlterEgo actually a ten-year-old boy]], he calmly asks how he got his powers...and gives one of these to [[TheArchmage the Wizard]] instead, demanding to know how he could choose a ten-year-old boy as his Champion. To his credit, the Wizard acknowledges the point, and asks Superman to mentor Billy for him.

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* ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'':
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In ''Franchise/{{Superman}}/ComicBook/{{Shazam}}: [[http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/3657027.html#cutid1 First Thunder]],'' Supes plans to give Captain Marvel one of these after he went on a RoaringRampageOfRevenge over the death of a young boy. After he a.) finds Cap crying, b.) learns that the murdered boy was his best friend, and c.) learns that Cap is [[OlderAlterEgo actually a ten-year-old boy]], he calmly asks how he got his powers...and gives one of these to [[TheArchmage the Wizard]] instead, demanding to know how he could choose a ten-year-old boy as his Champion. To his credit, the Wizard acknowledges the point, and asks Superman to mentor Billy for him.
** ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' was given by one of these in the wake of the ''Comicbook/NewKrypton'' event, in which a woman chewed out Superman for being offworld when her husband died of a brain tumour, claiming that he could have saved him. This apparently led Superman to attempt to reconnect with humanity by WalkingTheEarth. There has been some issue taken with the woman's rant. Firstly, readers are skeptical that Superman's heat vision is superior to all medical technology for the purposes of removing inoperable brain tumours. Superman helps humanity purely for selfless reasons, making chewing him out for not saving a specific person seem just slightly ungrateful. And Superman was occupied at the time trying to prevent a war between New Krypton and Earth, meaning that he was in fact still dealing with humanity's problems. And finally, the New Krypton event ended with humans blowing up the planet, killing most of the Kryptonians. Meaning that the woman is yelling at him for being distracted by humanity ''committing genocide against Superman's species''. In short, it's odd that Superman's reaction was to decide he needed to reconnect with humanity, instead of having to restrain himself from demonstrating the effect of Kryptonian heat vision on the human brain.
*** It should be noted that the other people around when the woman lays into Superman point out in Superman's defense that it wasn't exactly as if he was just dicking around twiddling his thumbs as her husband died, and that he was rather preoccupied with some rather apocalyptic situations at the time. It is up the individual reader whether this constitutes a LampshadeHanging or StrawmanHasAPoint, considering that her comments nevertheless kicked off ''Comicbook/SupermanGrounded'' (widely considered a massive DorkAge).
*** It's also not explained why the woman's chewing Superman out when there ''are'' other heroes with abilities perfectly capable of removing the tumor. Atom can shrink small enough to travel ''phone lines'' and can make various gadgetry, Dr. Fate and at least two others have strong magical powers, and depending on the writer, other heroes' powers could apply.
** In ''[[ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman Reign of the Supermen]]'', Comicbook/{{Steel}} was very prone to delivering WhatTheHellHero speeches to everyone during the second month of events. He chastises Superboy for his showboating and gets the Eradicator to back down for his WellIntentionedExtremist actions.
** In ''ComicBook/SupermanEarthOne Volume 3'' Superman lets out a ''very loud'' "'''WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING?!'''" to the United Nations for ''siding with General Zod''. Granted, he realizes he was just a little bit overboard in the collateral damage department in the first two volumes, but them siding with someone like Zod was something that he just had to question the world leaders.
* ''Comicbook/{{Supergirl}}'':
** In ''Comicbook/RedDaughterOfKrypton'' Kara calls both her cousin and her Red Lantern team out on keeping things from her and making plans about her without thinking about what she wants:
--->'''Supergirl:''' You don't understand. And neither do you. I'm not a piece of luggage. I'm not a problem for the grownups to solve.\\
'''Superman:''' It's not like that. We all just want to help you.\\
'''Supergirl:''' You're doing it again. Who says I need any help?



* Hercules did this to WonderWoman during ''One Year Later'' after he found out that she had run away from being a superhero.

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* Hercules did this to WonderWoman Franchise/WonderWoman during ''One Year Later'' after he found out that she had run away from being a superhero.



* ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' was given by one of these in the wake of the New Krypton event, in which a woman chewed out Superman for being offworld when her husband died of a brain tumour, claiming that he could have saved him. This apparently led Superman to attempt to reconnect with humanity by WalkingTheEarth. There has been some issue taken with the woman's rant. Firstly, readers are skeptical that Superman's heat vision is superior to all medical technology for the purposes of removing inoperable brain tumours. Superman helps humanity purely for selfless reasons, making chewing him out for not saving a specific person seem just slightly ungrateful. And Superman was occupied at the time trying to prevent a war between New Krypton and Earth, meaning that he was in fact still dealing with humanity's problems. And finally, the New Krypton event ended with humans blowing up the planet, killing most of the Kryptonians. Meaning that the woman is yelling at him for being distracted by humanity ''committing genocide against Superman's species''. In short, it's odd that Superman's reaction was to decide he needed to reconnect with humanity, instead of having to restrain himself from demonstrating the effect of Kryptonian heat vision on the human brain.
** It should be noted that the other people around when the woman lays into Superman point out in Superman's defense that it wasn't exactly as if he was just dicking around twiddling his thumbs as her husband died, and that he was rather preoccupied with some rather apocalyptic situations at the time. It is up the individual reader whether this constitutes a LampshadeHanging or StrawmanHasAPoint, considering that her comments nevertheless kicked off ''SupermanGrounded'' (widely considered a massive DorkAge).
** It's also not explained why the woman's chewing Superman out when there ''are'' other heroes with abilities perfectly capable of removing the tumor. Atom can shrink small enough to travel ''phone lines'' and can make various gadgetry, Dr. Fate and at least two others have strong magical powers, and depending on the writer, other heroes' powers could apply.



* In ''[[ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman Reign of the Supermen]]'', Comicbook/{{Steel}} was very prone to delivering WhatTheHellHero speeches to everyone during the second month of events. He chastises Superboy for his showboating and gets the Eradicator to back down for his WellIntentionedExtremist actions.



* In ''ComicBook/SupermanEarthOne Volume 3'' Superman lets out a ''very loud'' "'''WHAT THE HELL WERE YOU THINKING?!'''" to the United Nations for ''siding with General Zod''. Granted, he realizes he was just a little bit overboard in the collateral damage department in the first two volumes, but them siding with someone like Zod was something that he just had to question the world leaders.
24th Jul '16 5:14:32 PM Taskmaster123
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** The Punisher also dishes these out, as he's prone to ask heroes how many people have been killed by supervillains in their respective Rogue's Galleries because they didn't have the courage (in his opinion) to put an end to them once and for all. From Frank's perspective, the heroes have to take some of the blame for these deaths. Frank sees the world in ''extremely'' black-and-white terms.
19th Jun '16 8:14:47 PM nombretomado
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* It happens almost at every issue of the {{Thunderbolts}}. Which is to be expected: having heroes who have been villains all their life up to 5 minutes ago, and heroes who are former villains playing the hero thing [[RightForTheWrongReasons for completely wrong reasons]] (because of the action, [[BoxedCrook because the government forces them to]], because everybody else in the gang is doing it), they will almost never manage things as the steady heroes would do. The first team had [[MoralityPet Jolt]] to point those things out to them; as time passes, this role is done by the first Thunderbolts to the new recruits, by the actual heroes who join the team (such as Vantage, Nighthawk, or Captain Marvel), or by other characters that happen to be next to them.

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* It happens almost at every issue of the {{Thunderbolts}}.ComicBook/{{Thunderbolts}}. Which is to be expected: having heroes who have been villains all their life up to 5 minutes ago, and heroes who are former villains playing the hero thing [[RightForTheWrongReasons for completely wrong reasons]] (because of the action, [[BoxedCrook because the government forces them to]], because everybody else in the gang is doing it), they will almost never manage things as the steady heroes would do. The first team had [[MoralityPet Jolt]] to point those things out to them; as time passes, this role is done by the first Thunderbolts to the new recruits, by the actual heroes who join the team (such as Vantage, Nighthawk, or Captain Marvel), or by other characters that happen to be next to them.
10th Jun '16 7:20:46 PM Anicomicgeek
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** In issue 2, Plastic Man calls out Batman on his {{hpyocri|ticalHumor}}sy when Batman told their JLA teamates to ignore the problems of the Marvel Universe (including ComicBook/DoctorDoom, [[ComicBook/NewXMen the ruins of Genosha]], and ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk) yet he himself decides to keep ComicBook/ThePunisher from killing drug dealers.

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** In issue 2, Plastic Man calls out Batman on his {{hpyocri|ticalHumor}}sy {{hypocri|ticalHumor}}sy when Batman told their JLA teamates to ignore the problems of the Marvel Universe (including ComicBook/DoctorDoom, [[ComicBook/NewXMen the ruins of Genosha]], and ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk) yet he himself decides to keep ComicBook/ThePunisher from killing drug dealers.
10th Jun '16 7:19:32 PM Anicomicgeek
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* As the page image shows, there was a run in the Bronze Age segment of ''UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks'' where ComicBook/GreenLantern and ComicBook/GreenArrow went traveling America together, confronting issues of the time. At one point, an elderly African-American asks where the (white) Hal Jordan was to help his people when he was so willing to help alien beings throughout the galaxy.

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* As the page image shows, there was a run in the Bronze Age segment of ''UsefulNotes/TheDarkAgeOfComicBooks'' where ComicBook/GreenLantern and ComicBook/GreenArrow went traveling America together, confronting issues of the time. At one point, an elderly African-American asks where the (white) Hal Jordan was to help his people when he was so willing to help alien beings throughout the galaxy.galaxy.
* ''Comicbook/JLAAvengers'' has two such moments:
** In issue 3, the JLA and the Avengers have had more than enough of the jackassery Superman and Captain America have been engaging in throughout the series.
** In issue 2, Plastic Man calls out Batman on his {{hpyocri|ticalHumor}}sy when Batman told their JLA teamates to ignore the problems of the Marvel Universe (including ComicBook/DoctorDoom, [[ComicBook/NewXMen the ruins of Genosha]], and ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk) yet he himself decides to keep ComicBook/ThePunisher from killing drug dealers.
15th May '16 9:34:35 AM nombretomado
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-->'''The Thing:'''' Oh yeah? Was that {{Magneto}} I saw sitting at the conference table?

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-->'''The Thing:'''' Oh yeah? Was that {{Magneto}} ComicBook/{{Magneto}} I saw sitting at the conference table?
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