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13th Jul '17 10:54:04 AM KodachiProductions
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* Soldiers have repeatedly shown that it is possibly to feel empathy with a bomb defusing robot. Units assigned robots often treat them like they member of their team. Some have even risked their lives to save them.

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* Soldiers have repeatedly shown that it is possibly to feel empathy with a bomb defusing robot. Units assigned robots often treat them like they member of their team. Some have even risked their lives to save them.them.
* Some denominations of Christianity believe that only humans have souls and can therefore go to heaven while every other living creature just dies.
17th Jun '17 3:22:38 AM LadyJaneGrey
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** Given the potential moral and ethical dilemmas that human cloning would cause, it has been outlawed in 70 countries should it ever prove possible. While no federal law in the United States forbids it, 15 states have passed such laws.

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** Given the potential moral legal, religious, and ethical dilemmas that human cloning would cause, it has been outlawed in 70 countries should it ever prove possible. While no federal law in the United States forbids it, 15 states have passed such laws.
16th Jun '17 10:13:07 AM LadyJaneGrey
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** Given the potential moral and ethical dilemmas that human cloning would cause, it has been outlawed in 70 countries - including the United States and Britain - should it ever prove possible.

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** Given the potential moral and ethical dilemmas that human cloning would cause, it has been outlawed in 70 countries - including the United States and Britain - should it ever prove possible. While no federal law in the United States forbids it, 15 states have passed such laws.
16th Jun '17 10:10:53 AM LadyJaneGrey
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** Given the potential moral and ethical dilemmas that human cloning would cause, it has been outlawed in 70 countries - including the United States and Britain - should it ever prove possible.
28th Mar '17 5:37:06 PM Caps-luna
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* Sometimes, beside moral issues, this trope is reason behind debates around abortion and [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment let's leave it at that.]]

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* Sometimes, beside moral issues, this trope is reason behind debates around abortion and [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment let's leave it at that.]]]]
* Soldiers have repeatedly shown that it is possibly to feel empathy with a bomb defusing robot. Units assigned robots often treat them like they member of their team. Some have even risked their lives to save them.
26th Aug '16 10:20:47 PM EvilKid
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26th Aug '16 10:19:55 PM EvilKid
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** For some inexplicable reason, updated rules mean that [[http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/09/copyright-law-supernatural-beings-monkey-selfie supernatural creatures cannot hold legal copyrights in the US]], regardless of their level of sentience. If Dracula were real, he'd be screwed out of royalties to his own name.

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** For some inexplicable reason, updated rules mean that [[http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/09/copyright-law-supernatural-beings-monkey-selfie supernatural creatures cannot hold legal copyrights in the US]], regardless of their level of sentience. If Dracula were real, he'd be screwed out of royalties to his own name.name.
* Sometimes, beside moral issues, this trope is reason behind debates around abortion and [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgment let's leave it at that.]]
25th Dec '14 9:41:05 AM nombretomado
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* {{Catgirl}}s and other CuteMonsterGirl {{Half Human Hybrid}}s. Sometimes treated the same as humans, sometimes treated differently, sometimes they ''are'' a form of normal humans (such as {{Loveless}}), and so on.

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* {{Catgirl}}s and other CuteMonsterGirl {{Half Human Hybrid}}s. Sometimes treated the same as humans, sometimes treated differently, sometimes they ''are'' a form of normal humans (such as {{Loveless}}), ''{{Manga/Loveless}}''), and so on.
15th Nov '14 1:16:39 PM chopshop
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* ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' itself averts this, but provides a meta example (or TruthInTelevision). The human antagonists in the movie are depicted as considerably lesser bastards to aliens than their counterparts in ''Film/{{District 9}}''. They regard the Na'vi as primitive and hostile people, but people nevertheless: they at least try (if halfassedly) to resolve the conflict with diplomacy and trade and even when they resort to violence there are still some token efforts to reduce Na'vi casualties.
* MakeMyMonsterGrow and OneWingedAngel are often invoked to get around this in children's shows. In addition, said creatures may be fairly articulate before the change but lose all vocal coherence after.



** [[http://www.rfreitas.com/Astro/LegalRightsOfETs.htm This article]] discusses and explains in detail how governments are preparing in case of contact with sentient aliens and whether they would be treated as legal citizens. It seems that in the current state of such laws, there's a metric assload of bureaucratic snafus and loopholes that would have to be dealt with for aliens to have any real rights while on Earth. It's most likely that if we actually did meet aliens there would be some hasty reworking of laws and a new legal classification created so as to avoid FirstContact becoming a political shitstorm.

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** [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethics_of_artificial_intelligence The ethics and rights of robots]] have been debated about for ''ages''. Currently the argument seems to be less whether robots should have rights and more ''which'' rights robots should have and when.
** [[http://www.rfreitas.com/Astro/LegalRightsOfETs.htm This article]] discusses and explains in detail how governments are preparing in case of contact with sentient aliens and whether they would be treated as legal citizens. It seems that in the current state of such laws, there's a metric assload of bureaucratic snafus and loopholes that would have to be dealt with for aliens to have any real rights while on Earth. It's most likely that if we actually did meet aliens aliens, there would be some hasty reworking of laws and a new legal classification created so as to avoid FirstContact becoming a political shitstorm.
14th Nov '14 8:55:31 PM chopshop
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* ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' itself averts this, but provides a meta example (or TruthInTelevision). The human antagonists in the movie are depicted as considerably lesser bastards to aliens than their counterparts in ''Film/{{District 9}}''. They regard the Na'vi as primitive and hostile people, but people nevertheless: they at least try (if halfassedly) to resolve the conflict with diplomacy and trade and even when they resort to violence there are still some token efforts to reduce Na'vi casualties. On the other hand, the prevalence of "should've napalmed/nuked/asteroided them" attitude in reviews and on forums, assessments of Jack/Ney'tiri relations with heavy zoophiliac overtones and notes like "It's like trying to negotiate with cockroaches" suggest a view of the Na'vi as subhumans who should be exterminated.
* MakeMyMonsterGrow and OneWingedAngel are often invoked to get around this in children's shows. In addition, said creatures may be fairly articulate before the change but lose all vocal coherence after.

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* ''Film/{{Avatar}}'' itself averts this, but provides a meta example (or TruthInTelevision). The human antagonists in the movie are depicted as considerably lesser bastards to aliens than their counterparts in ''Film/{{District 9}}''. They regard the Na'vi as primitive and hostile people, but people nevertheless: they at least try (if halfassedly) to resolve the conflict with diplomacy and trade and even when they resort to violence there are still some token efforts to reduce Na'vi casualties. On the other hand, the prevalence of "should've napalmed/nuked/asteroided them" attitude in reviews and on forums, assessments of Jack/Ney'tiri relations with heavy zoophiliac overtones and notes like "It's like trying to negotiate with cockroaches" suggest a view of the Na'vi as subhumans who should be exterminated.\n
* MakeMyMonsterGrow and OneWingedAngel are often invoked to get around this in children's shows. In addition, said creatures may be fairly articulate before the change but lose all vocal coherence after.after.
* This is a serious concern that scientists and politicians have been mulling over in RealLife for decades now:
** There's a specially designed test called "[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test the Turing Test]]", which is meant to find if an artificial intelligence is genuinely sentient. So far no robots or computers have been able to pass it, and it's usefulness is a major point of contention for scientists (not helped by the fact that some ''humans'' somehow manage to fail the test). However quite a few are sure that, eventually, there ''will'' be a machine that will pass the test.
** [[http://www.rfreitas.com/Astro/LegalRightsOfETs.htm This article]] discusses and explains in detail how governments are preparing in case of contact with sentient aliens and whether they would be treated as legal citizens. It seems that in the current state of such laws, there's a metric assload of bureaucratic snafus and loopholes that would have to be dealt with for aliens to have any real rights while on Earth. It's most likely that if we actually did meet aliens there would be some hasty reworking of laws and a new legal classification created so as to avoid FirstContact becoming a political shitstorm.
** For some inexplicable reason, updated rules mean that [[http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/09/copyright-law-supernatural-beings-monkey-selfie supernatural creatures cannot hold legal copyrights in the US]], regardless of their level of sentience. If Dracula were real, he'd be screwed out of royalties to his own name.
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