History WhatMeasureIsANonHuman / ComicBooks

21st Apr '18 2:32:21 PM Tropetastic1995
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** Ironically, Spidey is later on depicted as caring very little for the life of Klyntar Symbiotes. Even in the early days, it's repeatedly clarified that Peter mostly cares about Eddie Brock and Cletus Kasady, and has ''no'' real care for wether their Symbiotes survive.
18th Dec '17 1:07:36 PM lillolillo
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** Although that backstory has long been retconned out, "World of Krypton" established that this sort of thing was the reason for Krypton's cold and sterile world: at one time, Kryptonians grew clones of themselves to extend their lives and, pretty soon, people started to get uppity about it, going into a major war that would lead to the planet's ultimate destruction.

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** Although that backstory has long been retconned out, "World of Krypton" Krypton (Volume 2)" established that this sort of thing was the reason for Krypton's cold and sterile world: at one time, Kryptonians grew clones of themselves to extend their lives and, pretty soon, people started to get uppity about it, going into a major war that would lead to the planet's ultimate destruction.
18th Dec '17 1:06:15 PM lillolillo
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** Interestingly, in the Post-Crisis backstory, this sort of thing was the reason for Krypton's cold and sterile world: at one time, Kryptonians grew clones of themselves to extend their lives and, pretty soon, people started to get uppity about it, going into a major war that would lead to the planet's ultimate destruction.

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** Interestingly, in the Post-Crisis backstory, Although that backstory has long been retconned out, "World of Krypton" established that this sort of thing was the reason for Krypton's cold and sterile world: at one time, Kryptonians grew clones of themselves to extend their lives and, pretty soon, people started to get uppity about it, going into a major war that would lead to the planet's ultimate destruction.destruction.
** In ''ComicBook/RedDaughterOfKrypton'', ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} destroys Worldkiller-1, an artificially-created parasitic sentient biological weapon, reasoning that it isn't a true living being but a ''mockery'' of one.
--->'''ComicBook/{{Supergirl}}:''' I know who I am, and I know what you are-- A '''mockery''' of life. This is not murder. It is the end of a terrible mistake.
18th Nov '17 9:16:16 AM TheNerevarine
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* Parademons in ''ComicBook/NewGods'' serve as ComicBook/{{Darkseid}}'s evil minions bred as modified clones from Apokoliptian citizens or recruited among the planet's most sociopathic denizens. Their sentience depends on the writer, as most are unquestionably loyal to Darkseid and do as they told, though there are exceptions like Mike and 3G4 who develop minds of their own. Most of the time, they are mowed down by superheroes without impunity (such as the DCAU, where even ''Superman'' vaporizes them without second thought). That said, there are times where the opposite happens when in ''ComicBook/InjusticeGodsAmongUs'', Superman unleashes his full power to eliminate Parademons all around the world at once and he is chewed out by Batman for taking so many lives, though in turn he gets called out by his own allies for criticizing Superman for doing what needed to be done.
19th Sep '17 6:48:47 AM Doug86
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* Subverted in an issue of the ''ComicBook/{{Superfriends}}'' comics (70's version): the heroes rescue a beautiful woman from what appears to be a collection of movie monsters (including a werewolf and a mummy!) It turned out however, that she was actually a space criminal, and the monsters were- '''alien superheroes''' that ''just happened'' to look like our movie monsters!

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* Subverted in an issue of the ''ComicBook/{{Superfriends}}'' ''WesternAnimation/{{Superfriends}}'' comics (70's version): the heroes rescue a beautiful woman from what appears to be a collection of movie monsters (including a werewolf and a mummy!) It turned out however, that she was actually a space criminal, and the monsters were- '''alien superheroes''' that ''just happened'' to look like our movie monsters!
15th Sep '17 10:57:43 PM StrixObscuro
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** In the last published ''Runaways'' arc, Victor raises the question of whether or not Klara's AmbiguouslyHuman status means that they can use force to bring her PowerIncontinence under control, earning him a DeathGlare from Molly.



** Another classic Superman story from # 314 (back in 1977): Superman is faced with a dangerous alien Jevik, who he intends to destroy. When questioned about how he can kill when he has a [[ThouShaltNotKill code against killing]], he replies that Jevik is not really alive. When Jevik's heart begins to beat, Superman says that somehow he's come alive, and Superman can't kill him. Apparently for Superman, if you don't have a heartbeat he can do anything he wants to you; merely being able to walk, talk, and act on your own doesn't qualify.

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** Another classic Superman story from # 314 #314 (back in 1977): Superman is faced with a dangerous alien Jevik, who he intends to destroy. When questioned about how he can kill when he has a [[ThouShaltNotKill code against killing]], he replies that Jevik is not really alive. When Jevik's heart begins to beat, Superman says that somehow he's come alive, and Superman can't kill him. Apparently for Superman, if you don't have a heartbeat he can do anything he wants to you; merely being able to walk, talk, and act on your own doesn't qualify.



* Speaking of Skrulls in Secret Invasion ''every'' hero killed Skrulls by the truck loads without blinking even when there were beaten and on the run, even [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POW POW]]s eating for their lives (ok the only ones that kill those are [[ArmiesAreEvil HAMMER]]) it makes you feel real sorry for the Skrulls (even if these ones were religious fanatics who odds are would have wiped out the human race if it wasn't for their Queen)

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* Speaking of Skrulls in Secret Invasion ''every'' hero killed Skrulls by the truck loads without blinking even when there were beaten and on the run, even [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POW POW]]s eating for their lives (ok the only ones that kill those are [[ArmiesAreEvil HAMMER]]) it makes you feel real sorry for the Skrulls (even if these ones were religious fanatics who odds are would have wiped out the human race if it wasn't for their Queen)Queen.)
6th Sep '17 10:44:21 AM DrPopo
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* In ''ComicBook/DeathstrokeRebirth'' after Slade has a HeelFaceTurn and tries to be a hero, he admits missing being able to grab his sword and kill his opponents and that he considers applying to ComicBook/JusticeLeague to kill some aliens or other monsters during next alien invasion.
31st Jul '17 5:22:02 AM Daedalis
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* When ComicBook/RedSonja rescues the chef Gribaldi from a cannibal tribe he explains he's been releasing the human captives and cooking foraged lizards and eggs instead. Sonja recognizes them as LizardFolk offspring immediately before the lizards attack to seek vengeance. She attempts to negotiate with the lizards but concludes they're AlwaysChaoticEvil. Gribaldi is nonetheless horrified and apologetic.
21st Jul '17 4:09:59 AM jormis29
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* Subverted in the original Fawcett and [[Franchise/TheDCU DC]] pre-ComicBook/{{Crisis|on Infinite Earths}} ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel stories. One of the odder characters is Mr. Talky Tawny, a [[TalkingAnimal talking tiger]] who is taught English and chooses to live with Humanity. He's well dressed and has excellent manners. Captain Marvel made sure that Mr. Tawny is treated as nothing less than a full citizen of the society he chooses to live in, which comes into play when Tawny is on trial for... mauling someone. (Incidentally, the pre-''Flashpoint'' version of Mr. Tawny in the regular continuity is a magic stuffed toy brought to life, and the Jeff Smith version for DC's kids is a shapeshifter whose favorite form is a tiger.)

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* Subverted in the original Fawcett and [[Franchise/TheDCU DC]] pre-ComicBook/{{Crisis|on Infinite Earths}} ComicBook/{{Shazam}} Captain Marvel stories. One of the odder characters is Mr. Talky Tawny, a [[TalkingAnimal talking tiger]] who is taught English and chooses to live with Humanity. He's well dressed and has excellent manners. Captain Marvel made sure that Mr. Tawny is treated as nothing less than a full citizen of the society he chooses to live in, which comes into play when Tawny is on trial for... mauling someone. (Incidentally, the pre-''Flashpoint'' version of Mr. Tawny in the regular continuity is a magic stuffed toy brought to life, and the Jeff Smith ''Shazam! The Monster Society of Evil'' version for DC's kids is a shapeshifter whose favorite form is a tiger.)
4th Jul '17 1:30:13 PM IdumeanPatriot
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* The slaughter of the Skrulls in ''ComicBook/SecretInvasion'' has already been pointed out, but the particular example of ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} and [[FanNickname Mockingskrull]] stands out. This Skrull is a TomatoInTheMirror who is a perfect copy of Mockingbird (Hawkeye's late wife) in every way, including memories and personality, and very honestly believes it when she professes to be her. At first, Hawkeye believes her, too, since she thinks and acts [[SomethingOnlyTheyWouldSay exactly like her]]. But when he finds out that she is NotEvenHuman, he kills her in a fit of rage -- Even though she had done nothing villainous whatever until then, and did not appear about to. In fact, she died confused and pleading with him, [[KillTheCutie never understanding why her Clint would want to murder her]].
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