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18th Nov '16 1:22:37 AM Viira
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* In ''LightNovel/{{Durarara}}'', a few hoodlums are up against a "shadow". While they've killed before, the narration explicitly notes that they don't feel there's anything wrong with trying to kill it. Said "shadow" is Celty, HeadlessHorseman, CuteMonsterGirl, and the main character. Oh, and a {{Badass}}, so they really didn't have a chance.

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* In ''LightNovel/{{Durarara}}'', a few hoodlums are up against a "shadow". While they've killed before, the narration explicitly notes that they don't feel there's anything wrong with trying to kill it. Said "shadow" is Celty, HeadlessHorseman, CuteMonsterGirl, and the main character. Oh, and a {{Badass}}, badass, so they really didn't have a chance.
18th Sep '16 4:45:21 AM megarotic
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* Discussed in ''Manga/KimiToBoku'' when the boys coverse about how festival games involving catching fish with thin nets is toying with their lives. They say the man who owns the booth doesn't value the goldfishes lives enough. They end up getting him so mad that he gives them better nets, which lets them catch multiple fish.

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* Discussed in ''Manga/KimiToBoku'' when the boys coverse converse about how festival games involving catching fish with thin nets is toying with their lives. They say the man who owns the booth doesn't value the goldfishes lives enough. They end up getting him so mad that he gives them better nets, which lets them catch multiple fish.
18th Sep '16 4:44:56 AM megarotic
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* In ''Claymore'' there are female warriors who are hybrids of humans and youma. And youma are "demons" that eat human entrails. The humans despise and fear them, or hate them even, and refer to them disparagingly as "silver-eyed witches". For almost all humans these female warriors are no more than youma. But they themselves see themselves as humans. It is also an important thing for them that they do not become a Awakened Being, because then they lose their human mind and would become monsters, also mentally. And indeed the anime shows many humans as evil, but that most warriors are really good.

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* In ''Claymore'' ''Manga/{{Claymore}}'' there are female warriors who are hybrids of humans and youma. And youma are "demons" that eat human entrails. The humans despise and fear them, or hate them even, and refer to them disparagingly as "silver-eyed witches". For almost all humans these female warriors are no more than youma. But they themselves see themselves as humans. It is also an important thing for them that they do not become a Awakened Being, because then they lose their human mind and would become monsters, also mentally. And indeed the anime shows many humans as evil, but that most warriors are really good.
16th Sep '16 2:10:04 PM Grayfox
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In ''Claymore'' there are female warriors who are hybrids of humans and youma. And youma are "demons" that eat human entrails. The humans despise and fear them, or hate them even, and refer to them disparagingly as "silver-eyed witches". For almost all humans these female warriors are no more than youma. But they themselves see themselves as humans. It is also an important thing for them that they do not become a Awakened Being, because then they lose their human mind and would become monsters, also mentally. And indeed the anime shows many humans as evil, but that most warriors are really good.

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* In ''Claymore'' there are female warriors who are hybrids of humans and youma. And youma are "demons" that eat human entrails. The humans despise and fear them, or hate them even, and refer to them disparagingly as "silver-eyed witches". For almost all humans these female warriors are no more than youma. But they themselves see themselves as humans. It is also an important thing for them that they do not become a Awakened Being, because then they lose their human mind and would become monsters, also mentally. And indeed the anime shows many humans as evil, but that most warriors are really good.
16th Sep '16 2:08:39 PM Grayfox
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** In an arc spared Inuyasha the warrior Jakotsu, after he defeating him, because this was a human being. At the time of the story, however, Jakotsu is a undead and, moreover, a sadistic murderer who has already killed many humans. But Inuyasha killed from lower grounds youkai.
** In another arc he destroyed a whole pack bat-demons because they have the young half-demon girl Shiori mistreated. Probably Shiori is the only one of her pack, which has survived the attack. However, he seems to do nothing against the humans who also have mistreated Shiori. And the probability is very high that they will attack she later, because most humans think that half-demons only are monsters.
** This trope is justified with the "lesser demons" that look like giant insects and worms, but. Because they are really getting nasty.
** To be fair, it must also be mentioned that the protagonists have also been frequently spared antagonistic youkai if they were not really evil, or at least have not killed humans. With Koga and Sesshomaru they have even become friends, even though they were evil youkai at beginning.


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In ''Claymore'' there are female warriors who are hybrids of humans and youma. And youma are "demons" that eat human entrails. The humans despise and fear them, or hate them even, and refer to them disparagingly as "silver-eyed witches". For almost all humans these female warriors are no more than youma. But they themselves see themselves as humans. It is also an important thing for them that they do not become a Awakened Being, because then they lose their human mind and would become monsters, also mentally. And indeed the anime shows many humans as evil, but that most warriors are really good.
1st Aug '16 7:43:03 PM Willbyr
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* This is also explored in ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaAs''. MissionControl has revealed that the enemy are in fact sentient programs, so "shouldn't be considered as people." ArtificialHuman [[spoiler:Fate Testarossa]] comments that "they're just like me, then." Which results in a hasty response that really, she's just like other humans in that regard. Later as Nanoha confronts one of the programs who denies sentience, she retorts that if someone can talk to her and clearly have emotions (she had been crying for most of the fight), then it's obvious that they are people; just like humans.

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* Franchise/LyricalNanoha:
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This is also explored in ''Anime/MagicalGirlLyricalNanohaAs''. MissionControl has revealed that the enemy are in fact sentient programs, so "shouldn't be considered as people." ArtificialHuman [[spoiler:Fate Testarossa]] comments that "they're just like me, then." Which results in a hasty response that really, she's just like other humans in that regard. Later as Nanoha confronts one of the programs who denies sentience, she retorts that if someone can talk to her and clearly have emotions (she had been crying for most of the fight), then it's obvious that they are people; just like humans.



* In the manga ''{{Samurai Deeper Kyo}}'', countless humans are killed in several fights. In a possible example of executive meddling, the anime adaptation had all the evil characters turn into monsters at some point before they were dealt the fatal blow, possibly for the sake of preserving the good guys' "goodness".

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* In the manga ''{{Samurai Deeper Kyo}}'', ''Manga/SamuraiDeeperKyo'', countless humans are killed in several fights. In a possible example of executive meddling, the anime adaptation had all the evil characters turn into monsters at some point before they were dealt the fatal blow, possibly for the sake of preserving the good guys' "goodness".
1st Aug '16 7:33:09 PM Willbyr
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* One of the major themes of ''{{Sekirei}}'', as the titular beings are essentially HumanAlien {{Mons}} raised by a MegaCorp to take part in a cruel game of ThereCanBeOnlyOne. They are dehumanized in a variety of ways, from [[YouAreNumberSix having a number]] and being given a personal name only as an extra identifier, being subject to a monthly MeasuringDay to gather data on them, and even sometimes treated like prizes to be awarded to the winner because it'll spice up the Game. Each Sekirei has a destined master (an Ashikabi) they're meant to be with, an explicitly romantic bond that strengthens them through ThePowerOfLove......however, they can be forcefully bonded to be different master, an action fully encouraged by the GameMaster. Not all Ashikabi are kind to their Sekirei, with some treating them as disposable or outright abusing them, as many are {{Submissive Badass}}es that will tolerate mistreatment rather than suffer their bond being broken. These types see nothing wrong with their actions, since the Sekirei aren't human and [[SlaveRace belong to them]], right? One of the primary goals of the protagonists is to set the Sekirei free, since they're ''people'' and not things.

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* One of the major themes of ''{{Sekirei}}'', ''Manga/{{Sekirei}}'', as the titular beings are essentially HumanAlien {{Mons}} raised by a MegaCorp to take part in a cruel game of ThereCanBeOnlyOne. They are dehumanized in a variety of ways, from [[YouAreNumberSix having a number]] and being given a personal name only as an extra identifier, being subject to a monthly MeasuringDay to gather data on them, and even sometimes treated like prizes to be awarded to the winner because it'll spice up the Game. Each Sekirei has a destined master (an Ashikabi) they're meant to be with, an explicitly romantic bond that strengthens them through ThePowerOfLove......however, they can be forcefully bonded to be different master, an action fully encouraged by the GameMaster. Not all Ashikabi are kind to their Sekirei, with some treating them as disposable or outright abusing them, as many are {{Submissive Badass}}es that will tolerate mistreatment rather than suffer their bond being broken. These types see nothing wrong with their actions, since the Sekirei aren't human and [[SlaveRace belong to them]], right? One of the primary goals of the protagonists is to set the Sekirei free, since they're ''people'' and not things.
1st Aug '16 7:30:46 PM Willbyr
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*** Minerva-X is a complicated case. She was a HumongousMecha Dr. Kabuto designed. He programmed her to think independantly, acting on her own and even feeling emotions (including love). Everybody treated her like if she was alive and was a person, and [[spoiler:mourned her death]]. And in ''ShinMazingerZero'' she has been traveling through time and dimensions, and we learn she ''is'' the original Minerva, so she MUST own an soul! Can it be said she is non-human, then? the implications are... unfortunate or mind-boggling.
*** Human-looking robots were treated like simple machines or human beings depending on the instance. [[spoiler:The robots posed like Prof. Yumi or Kouji Kabuto]] were destroyed without a second thought. {{Robot Girl}}s [[spoiler: Erika or Lorelei]] were mourned when they died, and Shiro blamed Mazinger-Z for the latter's death and even temporarily hated him. However, the Gamia sisters were also {{Robot Girl}}s and Kouji did not hesitate on destroying them (although he was very unsettled and even sickened after seeing their remains since they were REALLY human-looking). In ''ShinMazingerZero'' Shiro freaked out when he ''accidentally'' sliced one of them in half, thinking he had killed one girl, but his brother's friends told him she was only a robot to reassure him. The difference on treatment seems depending on how many human traits the robot exhibits rather what side it is on.

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*** Minerva-X is a complicated case. She was a HumongousMecha Dr. Kabuto designed. He programmed her to think independantly, acting on her own and even feeling emotions (including love). Everybody treated her like if she was alive and was a person, and [[spoiler:mourned her death]]. And in ''ShinMazingerZero'' ''Manga/ShinMazingerZero'' she has been traveling through time and dimensions, and we learn she ''is'' the original Minerva, so she MUST own an soul! Can it be said she is non-human, then? the implications are... unfortunate or mind-boggling.
*** Human-looking robots were treated like simple machines or human beings depending on the instance. [[spoiler:The robots posed like Prof. Yumi or Kouji Kabuto]] were destroyed without a second thought. {{Robot Girl}}s [[spoiler: Erika or Lorelei]] were mourned when they died, and Shiro blamed Mazinger-Z for the latter's death and even temporarily hated him. However, the Gamia sisters were also {{Robot Girl}}s and Kouji did not hesitate on destroying them (although he was very unsettled and even sickened after seeing their remains since they were REALLY human-looking). In ''ShinMazingerZero'' ''Shin Mazinger Zero'' Shiro freaked out when he ''accidentally'' sliced one of them in half, thinking he had killed one girl, but his brother's friends told him she was only a robot to reassure him. The difference on treatment seems depending on how many human traits the robot exhibits rather what side it is on.
21st Jun '16 1:53:08 PM Willbyr
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** Played with in the HetaliaBloodbath2010 event, where a newsreporter mentions the disappearance of 'those people.' [[EpilepticTrees This could possibly hint of their existence as fairly common knowledge (at least to certain segments of society), though probably not their ''true'' identities. Or alternately, they ''do'' know the truth but prefer not to talk about it.]]

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** Played with in the HetaliaBloodbath2010 ''Manga/HetaliaBloodbath2010'' event, where a newsreporter mentions the disappearance of 'those people.' [[EpilepticTrees This could possibly hint of their existence as fairly common knowledge (at least to certain segments of society), though probably not their ''true'' identities. Or alternately, they ''do'' know the truth but prefer not to talk about it.]]
17th May '16 2:22:25 PM Willbyr
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* In the manga ''{{Gunnm}}'', this is explored from every possible angle: human brains in robot bodies, human bodies with the brain replaced with a computer chip, even split personalities given bodies of their own.

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* In the manga ''{{Gunnm}}'', ''Manga/{{Gunnm}}'', this is explored from every possible angle: human brains in robot bodies, human bodies with the brain replaced with a computer chip, even split personalities given bodies of their own.
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