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15th May '16 11:27:31 PM nombretomado
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** While on the topic, the ''[[LegoAdaptationGame Lego Avengers]]'' game is based on the [[MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] and has levels based on the various movies and TV shows. Despite this, the ''Daredevil'' and ''Jessica Jones'' series were not included, as Marvel felt they were inappropriate for children.

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** While on the topic, the ''[[LegoAdaptationGame Lego Avengers]]'' game is based on the [[MarvelCinematicUniverse [[Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] and has levels based on the various movies and TV shows. Despite this, the ''Daredevil'' and ''Jessica Jones'' series were not included, as Marvel felt they were inappropriate for children.
11th May '16 12:49:36 PM Sapphirea2
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* ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'': Children are especially attracted by the funny puppets - and really the host segments have a wild, kids-showish atmosphere and a fairly family-friendly sense of humor. The actual films being covered, though, are often ''not'' kid stuff and often deal with mature themes. The obviously fake monsters to an adult are not so obviously fake to small children, no matter how much the 'bots may be laughing at them. Most children simply do not have enough cultural experience to understand when a movie is a "bad" movie.
** It should be noted however, that they got several letters from kids and families (paticularly during the Joel years) talking about how much they loved the show. These letters were often read on the air, showing that they embraced younger audiences watching.

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* ''Series/MysteryScienceTheater3000'': Children are especially attracted by to the funny puppets - puppets, and really the host segments have a wild, kids-showish kids show-esque atmosphere and a fairly family-friendly sense of humor. The actual films being covered, featured, though, are often ''not'' kid stuff and stuff, often deal dealing with mature themes. The themes. As vintage ''Series/DoctorWho'' has shown, obviously fake monsters to an adult are not so obviously fake to small children, children -- no matter how much the 'bots may be laughing at them. Most them. And most children simply do not have enough cultural experience to understand when a movie is a "bad" movie.
** It should be noted however,
"bad", meaning that they much of the riffing is lost on them anyway. Still, the Best Brains gang got several letters from kids and families (paticularly during the Joel years) talking about how much they loved the show. These letters were often read on the air, showing that they embraced younger audiences watching.



* The makers of ''Series/{{Torchwood}}'' must have thought that by [[Series/TorchwoodMiracleDay series 4]] there was no longer any need to keep saying "Yes, we know this is a ''Series/DoctorWho'' spin off, but it's broadcast at 9pm for a ''reason''", so they didn't. Cue outrage at the first gay sex scene, with more than one person tweeting to the effect of "That's not right, it's a kids' show". Clearly the post-watershed swearing and gore and a paedophile as a major character didn't clue them in enough.

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* The makers of ''Series/{{Torchwood}}'' must have thought that by [[Series/TorchwoodMiracleDay series Series 4]] there was no longer any need to keep saying "Yes, we know this is a ''Series/DoctorWho'' spin off, spinoff, but it's broadcast at 9pm for a ''reason''", so they didn't. Cue outrage at the first gay sex scene, with more than one person tweeting to the effect of "That's not right, it's a kids' show". Clearly the post-watershed swearing and gore and a paedophile as a major character didn't clue them in enough. (''Series/DoctorWho'', of course, is one of the more famous examples of [[WhatDoYouMeanItsForKids the opposite of this trope]], with the original run aimed at kids and the revival aimed at families.)
8th May '16 6:20:04 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* There's ''Series/ProjectRunway ''merchandise aimed at preteen girls. The show isn't for them, due to swearing (most of it censored), adult themes like drinking, and references to things kids wouldn't know about such as AChorusLine. It doesn't help that Tim Gunn would later voice Baileywick in an actual show aimed at girls, ''WesternAnimation/SofiaTheFirst''.

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* There's ''Series/ProjectRunway ''merchandise aimed at preteen girls. The show isn't for them, due to swearing (most of it censored), adult themes like drinking, and references to things kids wouldn't know about such as AChorusLine.''Theatre/AChorusLine''. It doesn't help that Tim Gunn would later voice Baileywick in an actual show aimed at girls, ''WesternAnimation/SofiaTheFirst''.
1st May '16 4:54:13 PM WhatArtThee
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* ''Series/{{Gotham}}'' was inexplicably nominated for a Kids Choice Awards despite being a TV-14 series full of violence, sex, and NightmareFuel. It probably was nominated due to the popularity of ''Franchise/{{Batman}}''.

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* ''Series/{{Gotham}}'' was inexplicably nominated for a Kids Choice Awards despite being a TV-14 series full of violence, sex, and NightmareFuel. It probably was nominated due to the popularity of ''Franchise/{{Batman}}''.''Franchise/{{Batman}}''.
* ''Series/KnightRider'' is often stereotyped as a kids' show because it has one hero and his super cool super car, but the first season itself is loaded with episodes about politics, corrupt police, framed murder charges, a lover implicated in soliciting crime and the murder of a sleaze magazine owner- plenty of murders in the first season. The pilot is surely not for kids. Plenty of gunshots fired in the show actually hit -- and a few kill. Contrast that with ''Series/TheATeam'' which has only two casualties in the whole run and almost none of the shots hit.
1st May '16 4:52:46 PM WhatArtThee
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** Liopleurodon, which makes shark from ''Film/{{Jaws}}'' look like a sardine

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** Liopleurodon, which makes the shark from ''Film/{{Jaws}}'' look like a sardine



* [[http://shinga.deviantart.com/art/Head-Trip-All-Greek-To-Me-61559835/ ABC Family]]. Either ABC/Disney or Fox before them ''wanted'' to change it, but didn't. It was rumored that their contract with Pat Robertson required them to keep "Family" in the channel name (their contract does require them to run ''The 700 Club'' before midnight... [[SnarkBait maybe]] they could give it a LaughTrack?). The rumor was debunked when ABC Family [[http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/06/abc-family-changing-name-freeform "announced that they were changing their name to Freeform"]], which took effect January 12, 2016.

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* [[http://shinga.deviantart.com/art/Head-Trip-All-Greek-To-Me-61559835/ ABC Family]]. Either ABC/Disney or Fox before them ''wanted'' to change it, but didn't. It was rumored that their contract with Pat Robertson required them to keep "Family" in the channel name (their contract does require them to run ''The 700 Club'' before midnight... [[SnarkBait maybe]] they could give it a LaughTrack?). The rumor was debunked when ABC Family [[http://www.ew.com/article/2015/10/06/abc-family-changing-name-freeform "announced announced that they were changing their name to Freeform"]], Freeform]], which took effect January 12, 2016.



* Many people assume that because Kermit, Fozzie, and the rest of Franchise/TheMuppets have been family friendly for the past couple of decades, that the original [[Series/TheMuppetShow Muppet Show]] is also a children's show.
** This applied even back when the show originally aired. Creator/JimHenson had a very hard time selling the show to U.S. studio heads who couldn't see puppets as anything but for kids. [[http://theweek.com/article/index/254157/10-classic-sesame-street-moments-we-wouldnt-show-todays-kids This]] article shows some clips from the early days of Series/SesameStreet that would not be suitable for children today.
** A particular vintage ''Sesame Street'' bit that fell victim to ValuesDissonance was the infamous "10 Clowns" skit. The creators of the show had grown up in the pre-World War II era, when circuses were mainstream entertainment and it was taken for granted that [[NonIronicClown clowns were lovable friends of children]]. Thus they probably could not imagine the consequences of a 1970s clip showing [[ClownCarBase a ridiculously little white car]] driving wildly around a parking lot to a "hilariously" shrill musical accompaniment before ''screeching'' to a stop and unleashing, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin 10 clowns]] - clowns who in some cases were better suited for [[TheFreakShow the sideshow]] than the center ring, including a midget clown with [[HellIsThatNoise a "comically" squeaky voice]] and an apparently ''hunchbacked'' clown who seemed more ape than human. Years later, adults who saw it as kids expressed very frankly [[MonsterClown how terrifying it was]], and ''Sesame Street'' eventually had to address the issue by doing an episode in which Elmo has to overcome his fear of clowns - while insisting that clowns can be acceptable children's entertainment if they're lampshaded as being regular humans in costume.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfYUedgFHSA The same is true for Truth]] who have come to [[http://www.muppetcentral.com/forum/threads/truth-commercial-muppets-smoking.29554/ the logical conclusion]] that ''Film/TheMuppetMovie'' was a StealthCigaretteCommercial for kids.
** The 2015 series ''Series/TheMuppets'' is TV-PG and it shows. There are ''a lot'' of adult jokes showing off once again that just because they look like ''Sesame Street'' characters doesn't mean they're aimed at four year olds.
* ''The Boy With The Cuckoo Clock Heart''. The main character names his pet hamster Cunnilingus, a word he learned from a hooker. He thinks it's the name of a Greek hero. There is ''a lot'' of erotica in the book.

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* Many people assume that because Kermit, Fozzie, and the rest of Franchise/TheMuppets have been family friendly for the past couple of decades, that the original [[Series/TheMuppetShow Muppet Show]] is also a children's show.
** This applied even back when the show originally aired. Creator/JimHenson had a very hard time selling the show to U.S. studio heads who couldn't see puppets as anything but for kids. [[http://theweek.com/article/index/254157/10-classic-sesame-street-moments-we-wouldnt-show-todays-kids This]] article shows some clips from the early days of Series/SesameStreet that would not be suitable for children today.
** A particular vintage ''Sesame Street'' bit that fell victim to ValuesDissonance was the infamous "10 Clowns" skit. The creators of the show had grown up in the pre-World War II era, when circuses were mainstream entertainment and it was taken for granted that [[NonIronicClown clowns were lovable friends of children]]. Thus they probably could not imagine the consequences of a 1970s clip showing [[ClownCarBase a ridiculously little white car]] driving wildly around a parking lot to a "hilariously" shrill musical accompaniment before ''screeching'' to a stop and unleashing, well, [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin 10 clowns]] - clowns who in some cases were better suited for [[TheFreakShow the sideshow]] than the center ring, including a midget clown with [[HellIsThatNoise a "comically" squeaky voice]] and an apparently ''hunchbacked'' clown who seemed more ape than human. Years later, adults who saw it as kids expressed very frankly [[MonsterClown how terrifying it was]], and ''Sesame Street'' eventually had to address the issue by doing an episode in which Elmo has to overcome his fear of clowns - while insisting that clowns can be acceptable children's entertainment if they're lampshaded as being regular humans in costume.
** [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfYUedgFHSA The same is true for Truth]] who have come to [[http://www.muppetcentral.com/forum/threads/truth-commercial-muppets-smoking.29554/ the logical conclusion]] that ''Film/TheMuppetMovie'' was a StealthCigaretteCommercial for kids.
**
The 2015 series ''Series/TheMuppets'' is TV-PG and it shows. There are ''a lot'' of adult jokes showing off once again that just because they look like ''Sesame Street'' characters it's a Muppet series doesn't mean they're aimed at four year olds.
* ''The Boy With The Cuckoo Clock Heart''. The main character names his pet hamster Cunnilingus, a word he learned from a hooker. He thinks
it's the name of a Greek hero. There is ''a lot'' of erotica in the book.for kids.



* The short-lived television series ''Series/{{Probe}}'' accidentally sparked a bit of outrage with this trope. In one episode, misanthropic genius Austin tells his secretary that he knew SantaClaus was a myth at the age of seven (he had set up a motion-controlled camera pointed at the chimney). Since the show was appearing during a family-friendly hour, there were young viewers ambushed by this revelation, resulting in complaints from MoralGuardians.



* ''Series/CrankYankers'' has some well-known comedians make prank calls to various businesses, and reenacting the call on camera using muppet style puppets. One call had a woman prank a hardware store with an extended conversation about the "big tubes of caulk." Very much not for children.

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* ''Series/CrankYankers'' has some well-known comedians make prank calls to various businesses, and reenacting the call on camera using muppet Muppet style puppets. One call had a woman prank a hardware store with an extended conversation about the "big tubes of caulk." Very much not for children.



* ''Series/GrangeHill'' went out in a regular afternoon slot just after the kids came home from school to get their regular fix of [[VerySpecialEpisode drug abuse]], {{teen pregnancy}}, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking throwing benches into the pool]].



* ''Series/OnceUponATime'':
** It's not ''that'' extreme of an example, but just because it's about fairy tales and has many characters that were in Disney movies does not mean that it's for the same age group (besides, the fairy tales and its characters didn't become all cutesy and G-rated ''until'' Disney adapted them). The series contains things like violence, bloodshed ([[BloodlessCarnage though often not as much as would be expected]]), a character who is unknowingly a werewolf [[IAmAHumanitarian turning into a wolf and eating the man she's in love with]], implied rape as well as a definite (though never ''exactly'' stated) example of a SexSlave, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking mild language]]. The inclusion of ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' characters in particular appearing was marketed quite a bit however the series isn't as G as the film itself (which has a PG rating however is very tame and popular with little kids).

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* ''Series/OnceUponATime'':
** It's
''Series/OnceUponATime'' is not ''that'' extreme of an example, but just because it's about fairy tales and has many characters that were in Disney movies does not mean that it's for the same age group (besides, the fairy tales and its characters didn't become all cutesy and G-rated ''until'' Disney adapted them). The series contains things like violence, bloodshed ([[BloodlessCarnage though often not as much as would be expected]]), a character who is unknowingly a werewolf [[IAmAHumanitarian turning into a wolf and eating the man she's in love with]], implied rape as well as a definite (though never ''exactly'' stated) example of a SexSlave, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking mild language]]. The inclusion of ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' characters in particular appearing was marketed quite a bit however the series isn't as G as the film itself (which has a PG rating however is very tame and popular with little kids).



* Another ABC show, ''Series/TheGoldbergs'', was advertised in cinemas before family-friendly movies such as ''WesternAnimation/{{Planes}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/{{Turbo}}'', and was also advertised in banner ads on The Hub's (now Creator/DiscoveryFamily) website. From the preview, it looks like a fun sitcom about a boy having crazy adventures in TheEighties with his family, and he likes a few things from that era kids still like today like ''Franchise/StarWars''. Except that there's adult themes in the show, jokes and songs from the decade kids will not recognize, and uncensored and censored swearing, mostly from the father on the show, and sometimes even Adam swears! [[note]] Only the really bad words, like the F-word, are bleeped to keep it at a TV-PG level. For example, the second season's Halloween episode had a whole string of censored swearing before cutting to an ad break[[/note]]. There are even episodes with a plotline about Barry being taught about sex and the kids finding a scrambled porn channel (that we don't get to see, of course) when they are trying to watch ''Series/GeneralHospital''.

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* Another ABC show, ''Series/TheGoldbergs'', was advertised in cinemas before family-friendly movies such as ''WesternAnimation/{{Planes}}'' and ''WesternAnimation/{{Turbo}}'', and was also advertised in banner ads on The Hub's (now Creator/DiscoveryFamily) website. From the preview, it looks like a fun sitcom about a boy having crazy adventures in TheEighties with his family, and he likes a few things from that era kids still like today like ''Franchise/StarWars''. Except that there's adult themes in the show, jokes and songs from the decade kids will not recognize, show and uncensored and censored swearing, mostly from the father on the show, and sometimes even Adam swears! [[note]] Only the really bad words, like the F-word, are bleeped to keep it at a TV-PG level. For example, the second season's Halloween episode had a whole string of censored swearing before cutting to an ad break[[/note]]. There are even break[[/note]], and episodes with a plotline about about Barry being taught about sex and the kids finding a scrambled porn channel (that we don't get to see, of course) when they are trying to watch ''Series/GeneralHospital''.
28th Apr '16 11:00:20 AM babyhenchy1
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* This is one of the major reasons why ''Series/JessicaJones2015'' was in DevelopmentHell for so long. Melissa Rosenberg wanted the series to be appropriately DarkerAndEdgier to reflect its [[Comicbook/{{Alias}} source material]], but none of the networks were interested in a superhero show that dealt with the gritty subject matter she was pitching. It eventually got picked up by {{Netflix}}, which is known for its more mature content. It's primary themes include such cheery subjects as [[TheAlcoholic alcoholism]], PTSD and [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil rape]], each of which are thoroughly explored and discussed to a disturbing degree. Like ''Series/{{Daredevil 2015}}'', it earned a TV-MA rating.

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* This is one of the major reasons why ''Series/JessicaJones2015'' was in DevelopmentHell for so long. Melissa Rosenberg wanted the series to be appropriately DarkerAndEdgier to reflect its [[Comicbook/{{Alias}} source material]], but none of the networks were interested in a superhero show that dealt with the gritty subject matter she was pitching. It eventually got picked up by {{Netflix}}, which is known for its more mature content. It's primary themes include such cheery subjects as [[TheAlcoholic alcoholism]], PTSD and [[RapeIsASpecialKindOfEvil [[RapeAsDrama rape]], each of which are thoroughly explored and discussed to a disturbing degree. Like ''Series/{{Daredevil 2015}}'', it earned a TV-MA rating.
24th Apr '16 12:18:24 PM comicwriter
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* ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'', despite being in the same continuity the Marvel Cinematic Universe (which despite having some more adult moments, is generally family-friendly), has a much different tone. Murder, sex, Government corruption, and lots of NightmareFuel is a regular part of the show. Despite this, Agent Coulson, Fitz and Simmons have all appeared in the ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' TV show, which is aimed at kids.

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* ''Series/AgentsOfSHIELD'', despite being in the same continuity the Marvel Cinematic Universe (which despite having some more adult moments, is generally family-friendly), has a much different tone. Murder, sex, Government corruption, and lots of NightmareFuel is a regular part of the show. Despite this, Agent Coulson, Fitz and Simmons have all appeared in the ''WesternAnimation/UltimateSpiderMan'' TV show, which is aimed at kids. kids, while an ''Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.'' DLC pack featuring the cast of the show was released for ''[[LegoAdaptationGame Lego Avengers]]''.



** While on the topic, the ''[[LegoAdaptationGame Lego Avengers]]'' game is based on the [[MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] and has levels based on the various movies and TV shows.. Despite this, the ''Daredevil'' and ''Jessica Jones'' series were not included, as Marvel felt they were inappropriate for children.

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** While on the topic, the ''[[LegoAdaptationGame Lego Avengers]]'' game is based on the [[MarvelCinematicUniverse MCU]] and has levels based on the various movies and TV shows..shows. Despite this, the ''Daredevil'' and ''Jessica Jones'' series were not included, as Marvel felt they were inappropriate for children.
8th Mar '16 9:24:26 PM Pichu-kun
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* ''Series/OnceUponATime'': It's not ''that'' extreme of an example, but just because it's about fairy tales and has many characters that were in Disney movies does not mean that it's for the same age group (besides, the fairy tales and its characters didn't become all cutesy and G-rated ''until'' Disney adapted them). The series contains things like violence, bloodshed ([[BloodlessCarnage though often not as much as would be expected]]), a character who is unknowingly a werewolf [[IAmAHumanitarian turning into a wolf and eating the man she's in love with]], implied rape as well as a definite (though never ''exactly'' stated) example of a SexSlave, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking mild language]].
** The fact that the series often uses Disney's adaptations of fairy tales as a base (Gaston's not even in the original ''Literature/BeautyAndTheBeast'') really does not help. That and the fact the series uses fairy tales currently untouched by Disney (''Literature/HanselAndGretel'') and some books that aren't considered fairy tales at all (''{{Literature/Frankenstein}}'') is a bit of a MindScrew.
*** Gaston was not a character created by Disney, but by French film director Jean Cocteau. Which actually makes the MindScrew worse if you think about it.

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* ''Series/OnceUponATime'': ''Series/OnceUponATime'':
**
It's not ''that'' extreme of an example, but just because it's about fairy tales and has many characters that were in Disney movies does not mean that it's for the same age group (besides, the fairy tales and its characters didn't become all cutesy and G-rated ''until'' Disney adapted them). The series contains things like violence, bloodshed ([[BloodlessCarnage though often not as much as would be expected]]), a character who is unknowingly a werewolf [[IAmAHumanitarian turning into a wolf and eating the man she's in love with]], implied rape as well as a definite (though never ''exactly'' stated) example of a SexSlave, and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking mild language]].
language]]. The inclusion of ''Disney/{{Frozen}}'' characters in particular appearing was marketed quite a bit however the series isn't as G as the film itself (which has a PG rating however is very tame and popular with little kids).
** The fact that the series often uses Disney's adaptations of fairy tales as a base (Gaston's not even in the original ''Literature/BeautyAndTheBeast'') ''Literature/BeautyAndTheBeast'', he was created by French director Jean Cocteau) really does not help. That and the fact the series uses fairy tales currently untouched by Disney (''Literature/HanselAndGretel'') and some books that aren't considered fairy tales at all (''{{Literature/Frankenstein}}'') is a bit of a MindScrew.
*** Gaston was not a character created by Disney, but by French film director Jean Cocteau. Which actually makes the MindScrew worse if you think about it.
MindScrew.



* Don't let the fact that ''Series/{{Pets}}'' involves cute animal puppets fool you. The show has animals who engage in activities such as looking at pornography, masturbating, getting addicted to medications, collecting bloodstained bags, and drinking urine.

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* Don't let the fact that ''Series/{{Pets}}'' involves cute animal puppets fool you. The show has animals who engage in activities such as looking at pornography, masturbating, getting addicted to medications, collecting bloodstained bags, and drinking urine.urine.
* ''Series/{{Gotham}}'' was inexplicably nominated for a Kids Choice Awards despite being a TV-14 series full of violence, sex, and NightmareFuel. It probably was nominated due to the popularity of ''Franchise/{{Batman}}''.
4th Mar '16 4:14:54 PM Midna
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** The fact that the recently released animated film /is/ child-friendly, starring an adorable runt-of-the-litter, will probably not help with this.

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** The fact that the recently released animated film /is/ child-friendly, starring an adorable runt-of-the-litter, will probably not help with this.
24th Feb '16 7:24:41 PM hamza678
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** YTV did this with ''Series/{{Farscape}}'' of all shows. They announced that they would be the first Canadian channel to carry the show... and put up a Farscape page in their website which looked like something from Nickelodeon. Apparently, they were misled by the fact that the show was made by The Jim Henson Company. They ended up only airing the first season (and censoring the crap out of it).
** YTV also was the first to air ''Series/RedDwarf'' and ended up banning one episode entirely because there was too much to cut. However, YTV eventually got the hint and began airing more adult fare like ''Aeon Flux'' and ''The Young Ones'' in late-night time slots.
** Although it wasn't live action, YTV also gave this treatement to StressedEric, placing it in a timeslot right after SailorMoon. Surprisingly, nobody complained about this.

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** YTV did this with ''Series/{{Farscape}}'' of all shows. They announced that they would be the first Canadian channel to carry the show... and put up a Farscape ''Farscape'' page in their website which looked like something from Nickelodeon. Apparently, they were misled by the fact that the show was made by The Jim Henson Company. They ended up only airing the first season (and censoring the crap out of it).
** YTV also was the first to air ''Series/RedDwarf'' and ended up banning one episode entirely because there was too much to cut. However, YTV eventually got the hint and began airing more adult fare like ''Aeon Flux'' ''WesternAnimation/AeonFlux'' and ''The Young Ones'' ''Series/TheYoungOnes'' in late-night time slots.
** Although it wasn't live action, YTV also gave this treatement to StressedEric, ''WesternAnimation/StressedEric'', placing it in a timeslot right after SailorMoon.''Manga/SailorMoon''. Surprisingly, nobody complained about this.
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