History WhatCouldHaveBeen / Film

16th Apr '18 1:17:22 PM Mario1995
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** The scene where Raphael exits the movie theater would have had no poster for ''Film/{{Critters}}'' showing, and Raphael, apparently having seen a screening of ''Film/{{Batman}}'', would have commented, "[[TakeThat Cool car. Stupid costume.]]" This would've been HilariousInHindsight since Creator/WarnerBros, who produced said movie, would take over the film's distributor, Creator/NewLineCinema, in 2008.

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** The scene where Raphael exits the movie theater would have had no poster for ''Film/{{Critters}}'' showing, and Raphael, apparently having seen a screening of ''Film/{{Batman}}'', would have commented, "[[TakeThat Cool car. Stupid costume.]]" This would've been HilariousInHindsight since Creator/WarnerBros, who produced said movie, would take over the this film's distributor, Creator/NewLineCinema, in 2008.
11th Apr '18 1:50:24 PM Mario1995
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* In the mid-1980's, New World Pictures pitched a movie idea to ''Turtles'' creators Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird. Creator/{{Gallagher}}, Creator/SamKinison, Creator/BobcatGoldthwait and Billy Crystal would've played the turtles dressed in turtles shells with their arms and legs dipped in green paint, [[{{Squick}} with no clothes on whatsoever]]. Not much is known about this idea except that one of the treatments had the turtles fighting half-naked nuns in roller skates. Yes, this was real.

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* In the mid-1980's, New World Pictures pitched a movie idea to ''Turtles'' creators Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird.Laird that would've been more of an R-rated comedy film. Creator/{{Gallagher}}, Creator/SamKinison, Creator/BobcatGoldthwait and Billy Crystal would've played the turtles dressed in turtles shells with their arms and legs dipped in green paint, [[{{Squick}} with no clothes on whatsoever]]. Not much is known about this idea except that one of the treatments had the turtles fighting half-naked nuns wielding Uzis in roller skates. Yes, Since this idea was real.pitched around the time [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 the cartoon]] was about to air, there was probably no chance this movie would've ever been green-lit.
11th Apr '18 1:45:32 PM Mario1995
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* In the mid-1980's, New World Pictures pitched a movie idea to ''Turtles'' creators Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird. Creator/{{Gallagher}}, Creator/SamKinison, Creator/BobcatGoldthwait and Billy Crystal would've played the turtles dressed in turtles shells with their arms and legs painted green. Not much is known about this idea except that one of the treatments had the turtles fighting half-naked nuns in roller skates. Yes, this was real.

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* In the mid-1980's, New World Pictures pitched a movie idea to ''Turtles'' creators Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird. Creator/{{Gallagher}}, Creator/SamKinison, Creator/BobcatGoldthwait and Billy Crystal would've played the turtles dressed in turtles shells with their arms and legs painted green.dipped in green paint, [[{{Squick}} with no clothes on whatsoever]]. Not much is known about this idea except that one of the treatments had the turtles fighting half-naked nuns in roller skates. Yes, this was real.
11th Apr '18 1:43:56 PM Mario1995
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* In the mid-1980's, New World Pictures pitched a movie idea to ''Turtles'' creators Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird. Creator/{{Gallagher}}, Creator/SamKinison, Creator/BobcatGoldthwait and Billy Crystal would've played the turtles dressed in turtles shells with their arms and legs painted green. Not much is known about this idea except that one of the treatments had the turtles fighting half-naked nuns in roller skates. Yes, this was real.



** Originally, a young Foot ninja named Shinsho was intended to be killed by getting brutally beaten by Tatsu due to the Foot Clan's failure, but executives at New Line Cinema felt the scene was too violent for a PG-rated film. The dialogue was re-dubbed with the kid comforting him saying "you'll be alright," to show Tatsu only injured him. Shinsho's death was retained in the tie-in novelization.

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** Jennifer Beals, Creator/MarisaTomei, Creator/SandraBullock, Creator/NicoleKidman, Creator/MelanieGriffith, Creator/SeanYoung, Creator/LorraineBracco, Creator/WinonaRyder, and Brooke Shields were all considered for April O'Neil.
** Steve Barron wished to replicate April O'Neil's jumpsuit look from the early Mirage comics and the [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 1987 cartoon]]. The look was going to closer resemble the cartoon with a yellow colored jumpsuit and a big head of red hair (as opposed to a green jumpsuit and brown hair). However, Judith Hoag found the jumpsuit "horrifying" and the idea was nixed. The yellow raincoat April wears in the beginning of the movie is a homage to the yellow jumpsuit she wears in the cartoon.
** The scene where Raphael exits the movie theater would have had no poster for ''Film/{{Critters}}'' showing, and Raphael, apparently having seen a screening of ''Film/{{Batman}}'', would have commented, "[[TakeThat Cool car. Stupid costume.]]" This would've been HilariousInHindsight since Creator/WarnerBros, who produced said movie, would take over the film's distributor, Creator/NewLineCinema, in 2008.
** Originally, a young Foot ninja named Shinsho was intended to be killed by getting brutally beaten by Tatsu due to the Foot Clan's failure, but executives at New Line Cinema felt the scene was too violent for a PG-rated film. The dialogue was re-dubbed with the kid comforting him saying "you'll be alright," to show Tatsu only injured him. Shinsho's death was retained in the tie-in novelization.novelization and the French dub of the film.
10th Apr '18 9:26:54 AM AmuckCricetine
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** The first draft of Sam Hamm's screenplay introduced Comicbook/{{Robin}} at the end of the second act. As Batman is chasing ComicBook/TheJoker and his thugs on horseback through Gotham Park, the Joker blows up a fireworks truck near where the Graysons are performing their trapeze act. John and Mary Grayson are killed, and Dick lands on the Joker's van, receives a DivingSave from Batman, and, while Batman restrains him, screams his head off: "He killed my parents!" The idea got far enough along that Irish actor Ricky Addison Reed was cast to play Dick. The idea was disliked by the production team, and was ultimately removed from the screenplay, though the pre-production storyboards for it can be seen on the official DVD set, with Kevin Conroy and Creator/MarkHamill from [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries the animated series]] reading the lines of their live-action counterparts.

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** The first draft of Sam Hamm's screenplay introduced Comicbook/{{Robin}} at the end of the second act. As Batman is chasing ComicBook/TheJoker and his thugs on horseback through Gotham Park, the Joker blows up a fireworks truck near where the Graysons are performing their trapeze act. John and Mary Grayson are killed, and Dick lands on the Joker's van, receives a DivingSave from Batman, and, while Batman restrains him, screams his head off: "He killed my parents!" The idea got far enough along that Irish actor Ricky Addison Reed was cast to play Dick. The idea was disliked by the production team, and was ultimately removed from the screenplay, though the pre-production storyboards for it can be seen on the official DVD set, with Kevin Conroy Creator/KevinConroy and Creator/MarkHamill from [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries the animated series]] reading the lines of their live-action counterparts.



** Creator/RobinWilliams was Tim Burton's first choice to play the Riddler. However, after Burton was removed from the director's chair, the executives passed on Williams in favor of Creator/JimCarrey. Micky Dolenz had also been considered early on.

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** Creator/RobinWilliams was Tim Burton's first choice to play the Riddler. However, after Burton was removed from the director's chair, the executives passed on Williams in favor of Creator/JimCarrey. [[Music/TheMonkees Micky Dolenz Dolenz]] had also been considered early on.



** Rene Russo was initially cast for Chase Meridian while Michael Keaton was still attached to play, but Nicole Kidman was cast instead after Keaton left and Val Kilmer took over. It was felt that Russo would be a little "too old" to act alongside Val Kilmer.
** Billy Dee Williams was again set to play Two-Face, but was bought out of his contract and replaced with Tommy Lee Jones. A similar deal happened with Marlon Wayans, who was paid off so they could cast Chris O' Donnell in the role.

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** Rene Russo Creator/ReneRusso was initially cast for Chase Meridian while Michael Keaton Creator/MichaelKeaton was still attached to play, but Nicole Kidman Creator/NicoleKidman was cast instead after Keaton left and Val Kilmer took over. It was felt that Russo would be a little "too old" to act alongside Val Kilmer.
Creator/ValKilmer.
** Billy Dee Williams Creator/BillyDeeWilliams was again set to play Two-Face, but was bought out of his contract and replaced with Tommy Lee Jones.Creator/TommyLeeJones. A similar deal happened with Marlon Wayans, who was paid off so they could cast Chris O' Donnell in the role.



*** ''Batman Unchained'' written by Mark Protosevich (often called ''Batman Triumphant'', though Protosevich is not sure why), which would have had the duo fighting against Scarecrow (which would've starred Nicolas Cage as Joel Schumacher's first choice or Coolio, which explains his cameo in the bike race scene in Batman and Robin) and Comicbook/HarleyQuinn (who, in this script, was the Joker's ''daughter''), with Jack Nicholson returning as the Joker via Fear Toxin-induced hallucinations. Although Schumacher wanted to direct it, George Clooney's remarks about never playing the character again (along with the dismal box office) resulted in the project's eventual cancellation in 1998.

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*** ''Batman Unchained'' written by Mark Protosevich (often called ''Batman Triumphant'', though Protosevich is not sure why), which would have had the duo fighting against Scarecrow (which would've starred Nicolas Cage as Joel Schumacher's first choice or Coolio, which explains his cameo in the bike race scene in Batman and Robin) and Comicbook/HarleyQuinn (who, in this script, was the Joker's ''daughter''), with Jack Nicholson returning as the Joker via Fear Toxin-induced hallucinations. Although Schumacher wanted to direct it, George Clooney's Creator/GeorgeClooney's remarks about never playing the character again (along with the dismal box office) resulted in the project's eventual cancellation in 1998.



** In fact, the novel "Nothing Lasts Forever" was itself a sequel, to the book "The Detective." "The Detective" was made into a movie starring Frank Sinatra, and the plan was to adapt "Nothing Lasts Forver" into a movie at the time it was written, but by then Sinatra had grown tired of acting, and that project was scrapped. 20th Century Fox kept the rights, and years later, producer Joel Silver came across the story while looking for projects that the studio already owned the rights to.

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** In fact, the novel "Nothing Lasts Forever" was itself a sequel, to the book "The Detective." "The Detective" ''The Detective'', which was made into a movie starring Frank Sinatra, Music/FrankSinatra, and the plan was to adapt "Nothing Lasts Forver" into a movie at the time it was written, but by then Sinatra had grown tired of acting, and that project was scrapped. 20th Century Fox kept the rights, and years later, producer Joel Silver came across the story while looking for projects that the studio already owned the rights to.



** Burt Lancaster was reportedly offered the role of Harry but turned it down because he found the script offensive and promoted a less than liberal approach to law enforcement.

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** Burt Lancaster Creator/BurtLancaster was reportedly offered the role of Harry but turned it down because he found the script offensive and promoted a less than liberal approach to law enforcement.



** Laurence Olivier and Ernest Borgnine had both been suggested for Don Vito. Burt Lancaster was also said to have been a candidate for Don Vito.
** Robert [=DeNiro=] tested (quite well) for Sonny, but Coppola felt his portrayal was too cold-blooded to be appealing.

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** Laurence Olivier Creator/LaurenceOlivier and Ernest Borgnine Creator/ErnestBorgnine had both been suggested for Don Vito. Burt Lancaster Creator/BurtLancaster was also said to have been a candidate for Don Vito.
** Robert [=DeNiro=] Creator/RobertDeNiro tested (quite well) for Sonny, but Coppola felt his portrayal was too cold-blooded to be appealing.



** The studio wanted Robert Redford or Ryan O'Neal as Michael. Martin Sheen also tested.

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** The studio wanted Robert Redford Creator/RobertRedford or Ryan O'Neal as Michael. Martin Sheen Creator/MartinSheen also tested.



** Winona Ryder was set to play Mary, but begged off due to exhaustion.

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** Winona Ryder Creator/WinonaRyder was set to play Mary, but begged off due to exhaustion.



* Creator/StevenSpielberg was attached to direct really early on. He wanted to make the film as an AllCGICartoon with Haley Joel Osment providing Harry's voice. Of course, Haley Joel Osment violated Rowling's stipulation that the cast be kept British and she also didn't like the idea of it being animated. Eventually, Spielberg left on his own, feeling that it would be like "shooting ducks in a barrel. It's just a slam-dunk. It's just like withdrawing a billion dollars and putting it into your personal bank accounts. There's no challenge."

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* Creator/StevenSpielberg was attached to direct really early on. He wanted to make the film as an AllCGICartoon with Haley Joel Osment Creator/HaleyJoelOsment providing Harry's voice. Of course, Haley Joel Osment violated Rowling's stipulation that the cast be kept British and she also didn't like the idea of it being animated. Eventually, Spielberg left on his own, feeling that it would be like "shooting ducks in a barrel. It's just a slam-dunk. It's just like withdrawing a billion dollars and putting it into your personal bank accounts. There's no challenge."



* After Richard Harris died, Creator/IanMcKellen was approached to play Dumbledore. He turned it down, having already filled his quota of bearded wizards from books being made into big budget films. Instead, the fans get treated to [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation somewhat different]] performances by Michael Gambon.

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* After Richard Harris Creator/RichardHarris died, Creator/IanMcKellen was approached to play Dumbledore. He turned it down, having already filled his quota of bearded wizards from books being made into big budget films. Instead, the fans get treated to [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation somewhat different]] performances by Michael Gambon.



** Harris' family wanted Peter O'Toole to take up the role, as he was one of Harris' best friends. The studio decided against it, fearing the similarly elderly actor might also die before the series was out. [[note]]He didn't. Instead he passed away in 2013, almost 2 and a half years after the final film premiered.[[/note]]

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** Harris' family wanted Peter O'Toole Creator/PeterOToole to take up the role, as he was one of Harris' best friends. The studio decided against it, fearing the similarly elderly actor might also die before the series was out. [[note]]He didn't. Instead he passed away in 2013, almost 2 and a half years after the final film premiered.[[/note]]



* Jarvis Cocker, formerly of Music/{{Pulp}} and leader of the FakeBand from the fourth movie, [[http://www.hpana.com/news.19473.html was interested]] in making a full album with guests such as Music/FranzFerdinand and Iggy Pop. Sadly, he gave up due to a lawsuit (in the book, the band is called Weird Sisters, prompting a Canadian folk rock band, W'''y'''rd Sisters, to sue Warner Bros., Cocker, and guitarist [[Music/{{Radiohead}} Jonny Greenwood]]).
* The character of Peeves was originally going to be included in [[Film/HarryPotterAndThePhilosophersStone the first film]]. Rik Mayall of ''Series/TheYoungOnes'' was cast and apparently went as far as filming scenes before the character was cut. None of the footage - if it exists - has ever been shown. The story is rather complicated and involves two more cases of What Could Have Been. Apparently, Chris Columbus and David Heyman hated the design of Peeves and basically filmed the scene with him knowing that it wouldn't be in the theatrical release, but planning to go back and "fix" it for a future special edition to be released in 2002 or 2003. Columbus was planning to introduce an all-CGI Peeves in ''Chamber'' and presumably this would have been the Peeves he was planning to go back and insert into the first film. Then Peeves didn't make the second film either and it seems they just gave up after that.

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* Jarvis Cocker, Music/JarvisCocker, formerly of Music/{{Pulp}} and leader of the FakeBand from the fourth movie, [[http://www.hpana.com/news.19473.html was interested]] in making a full album with guests such as Music/FranzFerdinand and Iggy Pop.Music/IggyPop. Sadly, he gave up due to a lawsuit (in the book, the band is called Weird Sisters, prompting a Canadian folk rock band, W'''y'''rd Sisters, to sue Warner Bros., Cocker, and guitarist [[Music/{{Radiohead}} Jonny Greenwood]]).
* The character of Peeves was originally going to be included in [[Film/HarryPotterAndThePhilosophersStone the first film]]. Rik Mayall Creator/RikMayall of ''Series/TheYoungOnes'' was cast and apparently went as far as filming scenes before the character was cut. None of the footage - if it exists - has ever been shown. The story is rather complicated and involves two more cases of What Could Have Been. Apparently, Chris Columbus and David Heyman hated the design of Peeves and basically filmed the scene with him knowing that it wouldn't be in the theatrical release, but planning to go back and "fix" it for a future special edition to be released in 2002 or 2003. Columbus was planning to introduce an all-CGI Peeves in ''Chamber'' and presumably this would have been the Peeves he was planning to go back and insert into the first film. Then Peeves didn't make the second film either and it seems they just gave up after that.



** According to George Miller, Mel Gibson was intended to reprise his role as Max, but the [[TroubledProduction constant production delays]] and Gibson's interest in making ''Film/ThePassionOfTheChrist'' meant that it never came to pass. Miller's second pick was Creator/HeathLedger, but the latter's [[ActorExistenceFailure untimely death]] led Miller to cast Creator/TomHardy instead. Creator/MichaelBiehn was also reportedly considered for the lead at one point.

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** According to George Miller, Mel Gibson Creator/GeorgeMiller, Creator/MelGibson was intended to reprise his role as Max, but the [[TroubledProduction constant production delays]] and Gibson's interest in making ''Film/ThePassionOfTheChrist'' meant that it never came to pass. Miller's second pick was Creator/HeathLedger, but the latter's [[ActorExistenceFailure untimely death]] led Miller to cast Creator/TomHardy instead. Creator/MichaelBiehn was also reportedly considered for the lead at one point.



** Edward G Robinson was originally cast as Zaius in the first film, but his ill health didn't mix well with the makeup, and he had to remove himself from the film, after which Maurice Evans replaced him.

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** Edward G Robinson Creator/EdwardGRobinson was originally cast as Zaius in the first film, but his ill health didn't mix well with the makeup, and he had to remove himself from the film, after which Maurice Evans replaced him.



** Fox wanted Heston to return as Taylor, but Heston didn't want to carry another ''Apes'' film. They eventually reached an agreement where Taylor would only appear in the end, and retooled the rest of the film around a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute astronaut played by James Franciscus (who was cast purely because he looked like Heston) that had come to look for Taylor and gone through the same time travel experience.

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** Fox wanted Heston Creator/CharltonHeston to return as Taylor, but Heston didn't want to carry another ''Apes'' film. They eventually reached an agreement where Taylor would only appear in the end, and retooled the rest of the film around a SuspiciouslySimilarSubstitute astronaut played by James Franciscus (who was cast purely because he looked like Heston) that had come to look for Taylor and gone through the same time travel experience.



** The movie originally ended with Caesar's yell of "That day is upon you NOW!" and the apes beating Governor Breck to death despite Mr. [=MacDonald=]'s plea. Poor testing resulted in the addition of Lisa's BigNo, which was followed by ''repeated footage'' of Caesar's speech dubbed over by [=Roddy MacDowall=] to make him reconsider his decision and give the film a more hopeful tone.

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** The movie originally ended with Caesar's yell of "That day is upon you NOW!" and the apes beating Governor Breck to death despite Mr. [=MacDonald=]'s plea. Poor testing resulted in the addition of Lisa's BigNo, which was followed by ''repeated footage'' of Caesar's speech dubbed over by [=Roddy MacDowall=] Creator/RoddyMcDowall to make him reconsider his decision and give the film a more hopeful tone.



** Burton wanted to give a "Cornelius-like role" to his friend Paul Reubens, but neither actor nor character was included in the end.

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** Burton wanted to give a "Cornelius-like role" to his friend Paul Reubens, Creator/PaulReubens, but neither actor nor character was included in the end.



** Tobey Maguire and Creator/ShiaLaBeouf were contacted to play Will Rodman before James Franco was cast.

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** Tobey Maguire Creator/TobeyMaguire and Creator/ShiaLaBeouf were contacted to play Will Rodman before James Franco was cast.



** Another deleted scene in the DVD has Caesar pushing Jacobs off the bridge, not Koba.

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** Another deleted scene DeletedScene in the DVD has Caesar pushing Jacobs off the bridge, not Koba.



* Harvey Korman was the first choice for the role of Tony in ''Assignment Miami Beach'', but was unavailable for the filming dates.
* Bobcat Goldthwait refused to reprise his role as Zed in ''Assignment Miami Beach'' due to not being able to come to a financial agreement with the filmmakers. As a result, Tim Kazurinsky ended up not being involved either because the filmmakers felt there was no point in bringing back Sweetchuck without Zed.

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* Harvey Korman Creator/HarveyKorman was the first choice for the role of Tony in ''Assignment Miami Beach'', but was unavailable for the filming dates.
* Bobcat Goldthwait Creator/BobcatGoldthwait refused to reprise his role as Zed in ''Assignment Miami Beach'' due to not being able to come to a financial agreement with the filmmakers. As a result, Tim Kazurinsky ended up not being involved either because the filmmakers felt there was no point in bringing back Sweetchuck without Zed.



*** It doesn't help that a very similar story plays out in the famous TOS episode "The City on the Edge of Forever."
*** The JFK premise eventually got an unusually straight, non-parody treatment on an episode of ''Series/RedDwarf''.

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*** It doesn't help that a very similar story plays out in the famous TOS episode "The "[[{{Recap/StarTrekS1E28TheCityOnTheEdgeOfForever}} The City on the Edge of Forever."
Forever]]".
*** The JFK premise eventually got an unusually straight, non-parody treatment on an the ''Series/RedDwarf'' episode of ''Series/RedDwarf''."[[Recap/RedDwarfSVIIE1TikkaToRide Tikka to Ride]]".



** Creator/WalterKoenig wrote a script under the title "In Flanders Field", which would have had the entire crew save for [=McCoy=] and Spock die due to the fact that both had been seen in ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' (Scotty had yet to appear in "Relics" at this time)

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** Creator/WalterKoenig wrote a script under the title "In ''In Flanders Field", Field'', which would have had the entire crew save for [=McCoy=] and Spock die due to the fact that both had been seen in ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration'' (Scotty had yet to appear in "Relics" "[[{{Recap/StarTrekTheNextGenerationS6E4Relics}} Relics]]" at this time)



** Creator/TomHanks had been considered to play Zephram Cochrane, before James Cromwell was cast.

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** Creator/TomHanks had been considered to play Zephram Cochrane, before James Cromwell Creator/JamesCromwell was cast.



** According to a leaked manuscript, ''Fade In: The Writing Of Film/StarTrekInsurrection'' (written by Michael Piller years before his death, and never released because of studio concerns about the content of said manuscript), initial concepts for the film were far removed from the final product. The first script treatment (called ''Star Trek: Stardust'') involved Picard and a fellow cadet named Hugh Duffy (who were friends at Starfleet Academy) meeting up after almost three decades because of different circumstances. Duffy has become a renegade who has tried to provoke a war between the Federation and the Romulan Empire, and Picard must travel to the Neutral Zone to bring him back. Picard eventually finds Duffy and risks his career to help the other officer thwart a plan by the Romulans to take over a planet housing "the fountain of youth". At the end, Picard gets arrested (and stripped of his rank) by Starfleet due to his actions during the film. The plot was similar to ''Heart of Darkness'', and featured numerous {{Shout Out}}s and call-backs to various episodes of TNG.

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** According to a leaked manuscript, ''Fade In: The Writing Of Film/StarTrekInsurrection'' (written by Michael Piller years before his death, and never released because of studio concerns about the content of said manuscript), initial concepts for the film were far removed from the final product. The first script treatment (called ''Star Trek: Stardust'') involved Picard and a fellow cadet named Hugh Duffy (who were friends at Starfleet Academy) meeting up after almost three decades because of different circumstances. Duffy has become a renegade who has tried to provoke a war between the Federation and the Romulan Empire, and Picard must travel to the Neutral Zone to bring him back. Picard eventually finds Duffy and risks his career to help the other officer thwart a plan by the Romulans to take over a planet housing "the fountain of youth". At the end, Picard gets arrested (and stripped of his rank) by Starfleet due to his actions during the film. The plot was similar to ''Heart of Darkness'', ''Literature/HeartOfDarkness'', and featured numerous {{Shout Out}}s and call-backs to various episodes of TNG.



* Creator/JJAbrams's first choice to play Nero in ''Film/StarTrek'' was Russell Crowe. Apparently Crowe wasn't totally unwilling, but they could not agree on salary.

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* Creator/JJAbrams's first choice to play Nero in ''Film/StarTrek'' was Russell Crowe.Creator/RussellCrowe. Apparently Crowe wasn't totally unwilling, but they could not agree on salary.



** William Shatner could have appeared as Kirk. During the Starfleet award ceremony, Spock would present a pendant containing a moving holographic recording of the older Kirk. The crew of the new timeline would look in awe witnessing the recording of Kirk's future self. This eventually made it into ''Film/StarTrekBeyond'', as Spock finds a photo when going through the deceased Spock Prime's belongings showing the original cast (this was actually a promotional still from ''The Final Frontier''.)

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** William Shatner Creator/WilliamShatner could have appeared as Kirk. During the Starfleet award ceremony, Spock would present a pendant containing a moving holographic recording of the older Kirk. The crew of the new timeline would look in awe witnessing the recording of Kirk's future self. This eventually made it into ''Film/StarTrekBeyond'', as Spock finds a photo when going through the deceased Spock Prime's belongings showing the original cast (this was actually a promotional still from ''The Final Frontier''.)



** Benecio del Toro was the filmmaker's original choice for the role of Harrison, but negotiations fell through. It's fascinating to imagine what he would have done [[spoiler: as Khan.]]

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** Benecio del Toro Creator/BenecioDelToro was the filmmaker's original choice for the role of Harrison, but negotiations fell through. It's fascinating to imagine what he would have done [[spoiler: as Khan.]]



** The first two drafts of the screenplay apparently ripped off ''ComicStrip/FlashGordon'' and Frank Herbert's ''Dune'', respectively. Lucas had to rework the draft several times when the rights holders (King Features and Herbert) balked. Even then, Herbert tried to sue because (if you read the book) they're still similar, but he relented when the film became a hit in its own right.

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** The first two drafts of the screenplay apparently ripped off ''ComicStrip/FlashGordon'' and Frank Herbert's ''Dune'', Creator/FrankHerbert's ''Literature/{{Dune}}'', respectively. Lucas had to rework the draft several times when the rights holders (King Features and Herbert) balked. Even then, Herbert tried to sue because (if you read the book) they're still similar, but he relented when the film became a hit in its own right.



** Burt Reynolds, Creator/NickNolte, Creator/AlPacino, Creator/ChristopherWalken and Creator/KurtRussell were all considered for the role of Han Solo.
** Carrie Fisher and Sissy Spacek both auditioned for the lead roles in ''A New Hope'' and ''Film/{{Carrie|1976}}'' (Female lead in the case of the former). So we were ''this'' close to Spacek as Princess Leia and Fisher as Carrie.

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** Burt Reynolds, Creator/BurtReynolds, Creator/NickNolte, Creator/AlPacino, Creator/ChristopherWalken and Creator/KurtRussell were all considered for the role of Han Solo.
** Carrie Fisher Creator/CarrieFisher and Sissy Spacek Creator/SissySpacek both auditioned for the lead roles in ''A New Hope'' and ''Film/{{Carrie|1976}}'' (Female lead in the case of the former). So we were ''this'' close to Spacek as Princess Leia and Fisher as Carrie.



** Anthony Daniels was originally hired to only to be the actor inside the C-3PO suit, although he voiced his role on set just like Prowse did with Vader. Creator/MelBlanc was among those who auditioned for the voice role, and according to legend, it was him who persuaded Lucas to use Daniels' voice in the final film.

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** Anthony Daniels Creator/AnthonyDaniels was originally hired to only to be the actor inside the C-3PO suit, although he voiced his role on set just like Prowse did with Vader. Creator/MelBlanc was among those who auditioned for the voice role, and according to legend, it was him who persuaded Lucas to use Daniels' voice in the final film.



** Because Harrison Ford initially only signed on to two Star Wars movies, his character Han was carbon frozen at the end of ''Empire'' and was going to be killed off at the beginning of ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''. Before production Jedi producer Howard Kazanjian told George Lucas that he could convince Ford to come back. He made a deal with Ford's agent good enough to get Harrison to do the final movie so Han was written back into the story.

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** Because Harrison Ford Creator/HarrisonFord initially only signed on to two Star Wars movies, his character Han was carbon frozen at the end of ''Empire'' and was going to be killed off at the beginning of ''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''. Before production Jedi producer Howard Kazanjian told George Lucas that he could convince Ford to come back. He made a deal with Ford's agent good enough to get Harrison to do the final movie so Han was written back into the story.



** David Lynch or David Cronenberg could have been the directors.

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** David Lynch Creator/DavidLynch or David Cronenberg Creator/DavidCronenberg could have been the directors.



** Count Dooku was initially designed as an alien ''woman'', with concepts being thrown around like a killer fairy, a hyper-advanced robot and several others. Eventually, Lucas told the team that they could either make one design work, or scrap the whole thing and start fresh with Christopher Lee, who had just signed on. They did the easy thing. Funny enough, one of the rejected designs was later used to portray Asajj Ventress in the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' and ''[[Franchise/StarWarsLegends Legends]]'' stories.

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** Count Dooku was initially designed as an alien ''woman'', with concepts being thrown around like a killer fairy, a hyper-advanced robot and several others. Eventually, Lucas told the team that they could either make one design work, or scrap the whole thing and start fresh with Christopher Lee, Creator/ChristopherLee, who had just signed on. They did the easy thing. Funny enough, one of the rejected designs was later used to portray Asajj Ventress in the ''Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse'' and ''[[Franchise/StarWarsLegends Legends]]'' stories.



** The screenplay had Maz Kanata going with the heroes to the Resistance base, and Creator/LupitaNyongo even filmed some scenes with Carrie Fisher. They were all cut after the creative team decided that Maz really didn't add anything to the final act. However, [[MissingTrailerScene a shot of Maz giving Anakin's lightsaber to Leia did show up in the second trailer]].
** Back when Luke was going to be one of the main characters, there were plans for Hayden Christensen to cameo as the Force ghost of Anakin Skywalker. His appearance would have constantly shifted between that of Anakin and Darth Vader, playing on the duality of the Force.

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** The screenplay had Maz Kanata going with the heroes to the Resistance base, and Creator/LupitaNyongo even filmed some scenes with Carrie Fisher.Creator/CarrieFisher. They were all cut after the creative team decided that Maz really didn't add anything to the final act. However, [[MissingTrailerScene a shot of Maz giving Anakin's lightsaber to Leia did show up in the second trailer]].
** Back when Luke was going to be one of the main characters, there were plans for Hayden Christensen Creator/HaydenChristensen to cameo as the Force ghost of Anakin Skywalker. His appearance would have constantly shifted between that of Anakin and Darth Vader, playing on the duality of the Force.



** Casting choices for the title role before Creator/ChristopherReeve was ultimately chosen included Creator/RobertRedford, Burt Reynolds, Creator/SylvesterStallone, Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger, and Creator/PaulNewman. Other actors considered included Creator/DustinHoffman, Creator/JonVoight, Creator/ChristopherWalken, Creator/CharlesBronson, Creator/ClintEastwood, and even ''UsefulNotes/MuhammadAli''.

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** Casting choices for the title role before Creator/ChristopherReeve was ultimately chosen included Creator/RobertRedford, Burt Reynolds, Creator/BurtReynolds, Creator/SylvesterStallone, Creator/ArnoldSchwarzenegger, and Creator/PaulNewman. Other actors considered included Creator/DustinHoffman, Creator/JonVoight, Creator/ChristopherWalken, Creator/CharlesBronson, Creator/ClintEastwood, and even ''UsefulNotes/MuhammadAli''.



** Before production started, Guy Hamilton was the initial choice for director, but for tax reasons he was relegated to directing in the UK for a limited time, and he was unable to take Creator/MarlonBrando to Italy due to an arrest warrant for his involvement in ''Film/LastTangoInParis''. Because Hamilton refused to return to the UK because of being a tax exile there, he was released from his contract, and Mark Robson (''Avalanche Express'') was almost hired as a replacement, then the producers discovered Creator/RichardDonner after watching Donner's masterpiece, ''Film/TheOmen'', and set off to have him on the director's chair.

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** Before production started, Guy Hamilton was the initial choice for director, but for tax reasons he was relegated to directing in the UK for a limited time, and he was unable to take Creator/MarlonBrando to Italy due to an arrest warrant for his involvement in ''Film/LastTangoInParis''. Because Hamilton refused to return to the UK because of being a tax exile there, he was released from his contract, and Mark Robson (''Avalanche Express'') was almost hired as a replacement, then the producers discovered Creator/RichardDonner after watching Donner's masterpiece, ''Film/TheOmen'', ''Film/TheOmen1976'', and set off to have him on the director's chair.



** Alan Alda and Frank Langella were both considered for the role of Ross Webster. [[Film/SupermanReturns At least Frank got a role later.]]

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** Alan Alda Creator/AlanAlda and Frank Langella Creator/FrankLangella were both considered for the role of Ross Webster. [[Film/SupermanReturns At least Frank got a role later.]]



** Creator/WesCraven was originally slated to direct the movie, but was replaced due to CreativeDifferences with Christopher Reeve. (This should already be obvious.)
** Reportedly, the original budget was about $35 million, but the Cannon Group slashed it in half.
** The planned soundtrack album (split between songs - mostly for nightclub scenes - and Alexander Courage's score) was cancelled when most of the scenes for which the chosen tracks were written got cut from the movie. (This was before the phrase "Music From And Inspired By" became the ''bête noire'' of film music fans.)

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** Creator/WesCraven was originally slated to direct the movie, but was replaced due to CreativeDifferences with Christopher Reeve.Creator/ChristopherReeve. (This should already be obvious.)
** Reportedly, the original budget was about $35 million, but the Cannon Group Creator/TheCannonGroup slashed it in half.
** The planned soundtrack album (split between songs - mostly for nightclub scenes - and Alexander Courage's Music/AlexanderCourage's score) was cancelled when most of the scenes for which the chosen tracks were written got cut from the movie. (This was before the phrase "Music From And Inspired By" became the ''bête noire'' of film music fans.)



** Creator/JossWhedon was looked at to direct, but he turned it down due to his commitment to the ''Wonder Woman'' movie that was in development at the time.

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** Creator/JossWhedon was looked at to direct, but he turned it down due to his commitment to the ''Wonder Woman'' ''Comicbook/WonderWoman'' movie that was in development at the time.



** When Vaughn was still slated to direct, his frequent collaborator Jason Flemyng was nearly cast as Beast. Flemyng later wound up playing Azazel in ''First Class''.

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** When Vaughn was still slated to direct, his frequent collaborator Jason Flemyng Creator/JasonFlemyng was nearly cast as Beast. Flemyng later wound up playing Azazel in ''First Class''.



** Gambit would have appeared, played by Channing Tatum.

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** Gambit would have appeared, played by Channing Tatum.Creator/ChanningTatum.
8th Apr '18 9:08:54 PM nombretomado
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** The film was originally planned to be an {{interquel}} between [[Film/MadMax the original film]] and [[Film/TheRoadWarrior its sequel]], with Immortan Joe allegedly being Toecutter from the original film (although Hugh Keays-Byrne plays both roles, there is no connection between them in the final product). Rictus was also supposed to survive the pileup at the end of the film and become Lord Humungous in ''Road Warrior''.

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** The film was originally planned to be an {{interquel}} between [[Film/MadMax [[Film/MadMax1 the original film]] and [[Film/TheRoadWarrior its sequel]], with Immortan Joe allegedly being Toecutter from the original film (although Hugh Keays-Byrne plays both roles, there is no connection between them in the final product). Rictus was also supposed to survive the pileup at the end of the film and become Lord Humungous in ''Road Warrior''.
4th Apr '18 6:55:39 AM jormis29
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** Finding the voice of David Prowse, who played Darth Vader on set, to not be intimidating, Lucas thought of casting Creator/OrsonWelles as Vader's voice. But believing Welles was too recognizable, cast Creator/JamesEarlJones instead.

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** Finding the voice of David Prowse, Creator/DavidProwse, who played Darth Vader on set, to not be intimidating, Lucas thought of casting Creator/OrsonWelles as Vader's voice. But believing Welles was too recognizable, cast Creator/JamesEarlJones instead.
22nd Mar '18 8:18:40 AM costanton11
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** Because Harrison Ford initially only signed on to two Star Wars movies, his character Han was carbon frozen at the end of ''Empire'' and was going to be killed off at the beginning of ''ReturnOfTheJedi''. Before production Jedi producer Howard Kazanjian told George Lucas that he could convince Ford to come back. He made a deal with Ford's agent good enough to get Harrison to do the final movie so Han was written back into the story.

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** Because Harrison Ford initially only signed on to two Star Wars movies, his character Han was carbon frozen at the end of ''Empire'' and was going to be killed off at the beginning of ''ReturnOfTheJedi''.''Film/ReturnOfTheJedi''. Before production Jedi producer Howard Kazanjian told George Lucas that he could convince Ford to come back. He made a deal with Ford's agent good enough to get Harrison to do the final movie so Han was written back into the story.
21st Mar '18 5:11:35 PM Primis
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** Tim Miller signed on to return and direct the sequel, but was released due to CreativeDifferences, leading directly to Paramount hiring him as executive producer of their ''Film/SonicTheHedgehog2018'' project. Miller's departure also led music composer Tom Holkenborg (Junkie XL) to quit as well, not wanting to work without Miller, but he did not join him on ''Sonic''.

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** Tim Miller signed on to return and direct the sequel, but was released due to CreativeDifferences, leading directly to Paramount hiring him as executive producer of their ''Film/SonicTheHedgehog2018'' ''Film/SonicTheHedgehog2019'' project. Miller's departure also led music composer Tom Holkenborg (Junkie XL) to quit as well, not wanting to work without Miller, but he did not join him on ''Sonic''.
20th Mar '18 7:53:10 PM MagnusForce
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* ''Film/GodzillaVsMegalon'' was originally to be a solo venture for Jet Jaguar (some believe as a PilotMovie for a TV series). However, Toho threw in Godzilla and Gigan at the last moment in hopes of boosting its ticket sales.



** Godzilla's debut shot of his head looking over a hilltop would have had him with a dead cow in his mouth. However, Toho cut it out because they realized this would create a size issue for Godzilla -- either Godzilla was going to be small enough for the cow to be visibly clenched in his jaws, or the cow would have to be unnaturally gigantic in order to be seen in Godzilla's teeth.

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** Godzilla's debut shot of his head looking over a hilltop would have had him with a dead cow in his mouth. However, Toho cut it out because they realized this would create a size issue for Godzilla -- either Godzilla was going to be relatively small enough for the cow to be visibly clenched in his jaws, or the cow would have to be unnaturally gigantic in order to be seen in Godzilla's teeth.



** Additionally, Anguirus, Rodan and King Shisa [[DubNameChange /King Ceasar]] were supposed to be killed, but the fact that the scene would require them to destroy the suits (which were going to be used for publicity shots and promotions), as well as the fact all three were allies of Godzilla's in the 60s and 70s, caused them to scrap it.

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** Additionally, Anguirus, Rodan and King Shisa [[DubNameChange Shisa[[DubNameChange /King Ceasar]] Caesar]] were supposed to be killed, but the fact that the scene would require them to destroy the suits (which were going to be used for publicity shots and promotions), as well as the fact all three were allies of Godzilla's in the 60s and 70s, caused them to scrap it.
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