History WhatCouldHaveBeen / Film

25th Jun '16 11:46:37 AM Joe32
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*** The real season is that Sonyís [[ExecutiveMeddling executives disagreed about the budget]] and caused the would be director Jan De Bont to drop out. There were several attempts to re-negotiate, and get a director, Tri-Star brought in Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin. The condition they agreed to direct was that they would rewrite the entire thing however they wanted, and we [[InNameOnly all know how that went.]]
The even sadder irony is that the budget went way over the budget Sony didnít agree on, meaning that the whole screw up was really meaningless.

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*** The real season is that Sonyís [[ExecutiveMeddling executives disagreed about the budget]] and caused the would be director Jan De Bont to drop out. There were several attempts to re-negotiate, and get a director, Tri-Star brought in Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin. The condition they agreed to direct was that they would rewrite the entire thing however they wanted, and we [[InNameOnly all know how that went.]]
]] The even sadder irony is that the budget went way over the budget Sony didnít agree on, meaning that the whole screw up was really meaningless.
25th Jun '16 11:45:51 AM Joe32
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*** The real season is that Sonyís [[ExecutiveMeddling executives disagreed about the budget] and caused the would be director Jan De Bont to drop out. There were several attempts to re-negotiate, and get a director, Tri Star brought in Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin. The condition they agreed to direct was that they would rewrite the entire thing however they wanted, and we [[InNameOnly all know how that went.]]

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*** The real season is that Sonyís [[ExecutiveMeddling executives disagreed about the budget] budget]] and caused the would be director Jan De Bont to drop out. There were several attempts to re-negotiate, and get a director, Tri Star Tri-Star brought in Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin. The condition they agreed to direct was that they would rewrite the entire thing however they wanted, and we [[InNameOnly all know how that went.]]
25th Jun '16 11:37:25 AM Joe32
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25th Jun '16 11:37:21 AM Joe32
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*** The reason the Gryphon never manifested was because Toho veto'd the idea, and proposed Mothra and King Ghidorah instead. Both were turned down because they were extremely expensive.

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*** The A lie that has been circulating was that the reason the Gryphon never manifested was because Toho veto'd the idea, and proposed Mothra and King Ghidorah instead. Both were turned down because they were extremely expensive. The real reason was actually worse.
*** The real season is that Sonyís [[ExecutiveMeddling executives disagreed about the budget] and caused the would be director Jan De Bont to drop out. There were several attempts to re-negotiate, and get a director, Tri Star brought in Roland Emmerich and Dean Devlin. The condition they agreed to direct was that they would rewrite the entire thing however they wanted, and we [[InNameOnly all know how that went.]]
The even sadder irony is that the budget went way over the budget Sony didnít agree on, meaning that the whole screw up was really meaningless.
24th Jun '16 7:14:16 PM merotoker
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** The character of Max Schreck was originally written as Harvey Dent in the earliest drafts (BillyDeeWilliams reprising his role from the first film). The film would've ended on a cliffhanger, with the explosion that killed Schreck would've only scarred Dent, leading to Two-Face being the villain for the sequel.

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** The character of Max Schreck was originally written as Harvey Dent in the earliest drafts (BillyDeeWilliams reprising his role from the first film). The film would've ended on a cliffhanger, with the explosion that killed Schreck would've only scarred scarring Dent, leading to Two-Face being the villain for the sequel.



* Before the ''Film/{{Godzilla 1998}}'' film, a [[Film/{{Godzilla 1994}} 1994 Godzilla film]] was planed:

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* Before the ''Film/{{Godzilla 1998}}'' film, a [[Film/{{Godzilla 1994}} 1994 Godzilla film]] was planed:planned:



** The original draft for the film had Professor Perry revealing himself to be an Utrom in the ending. This was cut allegedly because New Line didn't want people to [[AdaptationDisplacement confuse him with Krang]]. Much [[ChekhovsGun foreshadowing]] ended up left in the movie though. Perry immediately recognizes what happened to the Turtles upon first meeting them, and even describes the very accident that led to them coming in contact with the ooze ''down to the year''. He even has suspiciously portentous lines like "Sometimes the best way to hide is right out in public," and "You're the last one, aren't you?" If you pay attention, during the two scenes at T.G.R.I., there appears to be a large rock-like object encased in glass with numerous computers plugged into it. And April later mentions in her news report that the company mysteriously (and ''literally'') "disappeared". The most bizarre effect of this though is the resulting NonIndicativeTitle - the "secret of the ooze" is the fact that it's '''''alien in origin''''', but got cut from the movie!

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** The original draft for the film had Professor Perry revealing himself to be an Utrom in the ending. This was cut allegedly because New Line didn't want people to [[AdaptationDisplacement confuse him with Krang]]. Much [[ChekhovsGun foreshadowing]] ended up left in the movie though. Perry immediately recognizes what happened to the Turtles upon first meeting them, and even describes the very accident that led to them coming in contact with the ooze ''down to the year''. He even has suspiciously portentous lines like "Sometimes the best way to hide is right out in public," and "You're the last one, aren't you?" If you pay attention, during the two scenes at T.G.R.I., there appears to be a large rock-like object encased in glass with numerous computers plugged into it. And April later mentions in her news report that the company mysteriously (and ''literally'') "disappeared". The most bizarre effect of this though is the resulting NonIndicativeTitle [[NonIndicativeName Non-Indicative Title]] - the "secret of the ooze" is the fact that it's '''''alien in origin''''', but got cut from the movie!
24th Jun '16 5:40:09 PM merotoker
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''Film/{{Prometheus}}'':

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* ''Film/{{Prometheus}}'':



* Originally, the last act of ''Back to the Future Part II'', as detailed in the "Script/NumberTwo" script, would have taken place in 1967. The idea in that draft was that Marty would have had to ensure that his parents went through with his conception. It was changed to 1955 when Creator/RobertZemeckis realized how awesome it would be for it happen concurrently with the climax of ''Part I'', and also to prevent the need for new setpieces.

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* Originally, the last act of ''Back to the Future Part II'', as detailed in the "Script/NumberTwo" script, would have taken place in 1967. The idea in that draft was that Marty would have had to ensure that his parents went through with his conception. It was changed to 1955 when Creator/RobertZemeckis realized how awesome it would be for it to happen concurrently with the climax of ''Part I'', and also to prevent the need for new setpieces.



** The first draft of Sam Hamm's screenplay introduced Comicbook/{{Robin}} at the end of the second act. As Batman is chasing SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker and his thugs on horseback through Gotham Park, the Joker blows up a fireworks truck near where the Graysons are performing their trapeze act. John and Mary Grayson are killed, and Dick lands on the Joker's van, receives a DivingSave from Batman, and, while Batman restrains him, screams his head off: "He killed my parents!" The idea was disliked by the production team, and it was quickly removed from the screenplay, though the pre-production storyboards for it can be seen on the official DVD set, with Kevin Conroy and Creator/MarkHamill from [[BatmanTheAnimatedSeries the animated series]] reading the lines of their live-action counterparts.

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** The first draft of Sam Hamm's screenplay introduced Comicbook/{{Robin}} at the end of the second act. As Batman is chasing SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker and his thugs on horseback through Gotham Park, the Joker blows up a fireworks truck near where the Graysons are performing their trapeze act. John and Mary Grayson are killed, and Dick lands on the Joker's van, receives a DivingSave from Batman, and, while Batman restrains him, screams his head off: "He killed my parents!" The idea was disliked by the production team, and it was quickly removed from the screenplay, though the pre-production storyboards for it can be seen on the official DVD set, with Kevin Conroy and Creator/MarkHamill from [[BatmanTheAnimatedSeries [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries the animated series]] reading the lines of their live-action counterparts.



** And [[IncrediblyLamePun even more puns]], these actually ''more'' terrible than the ones that did make it in. Examples included Mr. Freeze's "No gun. How disarming" and Batman's "Don't sink and drive" (when a snowmobile driven by Freeze's goons plunges through an icy lake).

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** And [[IncrediblyLamePun even more puns]], {{pun}}s, these actually ''more'' terrible than the ones that did make it in. Examples included Mr. Freeze's "No gun. How disarming" and Batman's "Don't sink and drive" (when a snowmobile driven by Freeze's goons plunges through an icy lake).



* Creator/ChristopherNolan's original intention for the third installment of ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'' was for SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker to stand trial for his crimes, continuing the story from ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. AuthorExistenceFailure ensued when [[Creator/HeathLedger the actor who portrayed the Joker]] died, however, which led to Nolan choosing to go in a different direction that continued Batman's fight against the League of Shadow's attempts to destroy Gotham (as he did in [[Film/BatmanBegins the first installment]]), with Bane in particular as the main antagonist. This film would eventually become ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', serving as the final installment to the film trilogy.

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* Creator/ChristopherNolan's original intention for the third installment of ''Film/TheDarkKnightSaga'' was for SelfDemonstrating/TheJoker ComicBook/TheJoker to stand trial for his crimes, continuing the story from ''Film/TheDarkKnight''. AuthorExistenceFailure ensued when [[Creator/HeathLedger the actor who portrayed the Joker]] died, however, which led to Nolan choosing to go in a different direction that continued Batman's fight against the League of Shadow's attempts to destroy Gotham (as he did in [[Film/BatmanBegins the first installment]]), with Bane in particular as the main antagonist. This film would eventually become ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'', serving as the final installment to the film trilogy.



** Numerous versions of these floated around for a while, too. The original script involved Riddick fighting the hammerheaded creatures in the underground of a city planet for entertainment. He is captured by a merc named "Big Foe" (Who turns out, in the third act, to be Jack from ''Film/PitchBlack'') and brought back to the planet only to find that the creatures were sentient and wanted revenge on Riddick as dictated by the evil god they worshiped. Akiva Goldsman's script was about Riddick and Kyra (Jack) hijacking a prison satellite and landing it on a living planet, which launched various creatures made from elements such as air, fire, wind and water at them to try and stop them before trying to kill them with a giant storm. David Hayter wrote a prequel about Riddick, growing up and being drafted into a war where he'd get blamed for his entire platoon's death (by Johns, whose callousness was actually to blame). This would result in the huge payday on his head and the many encounters with Johns, some good, some bad, and many lost loves and lost friends that rendered him the cold, heartless monster he was at the beginning of ''Pitch Black''.

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** Numerous versions of these floated around for a while, too. The original script involved Riddick fighting the hammerheaded creatures in the underground of a city planet for entertainment. He is captured by a merc named "Big Foe" (Who turns out, in the third act, to be Jack from ''Film/PitchBlack'') and brought back to the planet only to find that the creatures were sentient and wanted revenge on Riddick as dictated by the evil god they worshiped. Akiva Goldsman's script was about Riddick and Kyra (Jack) hijacking a prison satellite and landing it on a living planet, which launched various creatures made from elements such as air, fire, wind and water at them to try and stop them before trying to kill them with a giant storm. David Hayter Creator/DavidHayter wrote a prequel about Riddick, growing up and being drafted into a war where he'd get blamed for his entire platoon's death (by Johns, whose callousness was actually to blame). This would result in the huge payday on his head and the many encounters with Johns, some good, some bad, and many lost loves and lost friends that rendered him the cold, heartless monster he was at the beginning of ''Pitch Black''.



Every installment of the ''Franchise/DieHard'' franchise, except ''Die Hard 2'' and ''A Good Day To Die Hard'', began life as a completely different project and/or a standalone film that was reworked to fit the series.

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Every installment of the ''Franchise/DieHard'' franchise, except ''Die Hard 2'' ''Film/DieHard2'' and ''A Good Day To Die Hard'', ''Film/AGoodDayToDieHard'', began life as a completely different project and/or a standalone film that was reworked to fit the series.



* Laurence Olivier and Ernest Borgnine had both been suggested for Don Vito. Burt Lancaster was also said to have been a candidate for Don Vito.

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* ** Laurence Olivier and Ernest Borgnine had both been suggested for Don Vito. Burt Lancaster was also said to have been a candidate for Don Vito.



** The film was going to be much closer in feel to the Creator/{{Toho}} versions, but it clashed too harshly with the director's imagining of the lizard in a more realistic light (for instance, Godzilla looked and moved more like his Toho counterpart, but he looked too much like a ManInARubberSuit and broke the suspension of disbelief the director was going for).

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** The film was going to be much closer in feel to the Creator/{{Toho}} versions, but it clashed too harshly with the director's imagining of the lizard in a more realistic light (for instance, Godzilla looked and moved more like his Toho counterpart, but he looked too much like a ManInARubberSuit [[PeopleInRubberSuits man in a rubber suit]] and broke the suspension of disbelief the director was going for).



** Godzilla himself was originally going to be a fire-breathing ape (as an homage to Film/KingKong). It wasn't until producers watched ''Film/TheBeastFrom20000Fathoms'' that they decided to settle on making him a radioactive dinosaur. Only one major aspect of this scrapped idea was kept for the final version. The monster's name was kept "Gojira" (a combonation of the words "Gorilla" and "Kujira" (Japanese for "whale") because executives at Toho simply liked the way it sounds and because they felt it perfectly described something large and powerful.

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** Godzilla himself was originally going to be a fire-breathing ape (as an homage to Film/KingKong). It wasn't until producers watched ''Film/TheBeastFrom20000Fathoms'' ''Film/TheBeastFromTwentyThousandFathoms'' that they decided to settle on making him a radioactive dinosaur. Only one major aspect of this scrapped idea was kept for the final version. The monster's name was kept "Gojira" (a combonation of the words "Gorilla" and "Kujira" (Japanese for "whale") because executives at Toho simply liked the way it sounds and because they felt it perfectly described something large and powerful.



** A new script was written for New Line, which featured a {{Cameo}} from Comicbook/NickFury to [[PoorlyDisguisedPilot set the character up for his own movie]]. Subsequent drafts also featured Howard Stark (who was still alive in this version) as Comicbook/WarMachine, the movie's BigBad. The execs also made bizarre demands and suggestions, such as saying that Iron Man shouldn't fly and should suit up by using a toaster. DavidHayter did some work on the script, while both Creator/JossWhedon and Nick Cassavetes were approached to direct. When production stalled for too long, the license lapsed and the rights returned to Marvel.

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** A new script was written for New Line, which featured a {{Cameo}} from Comicbook/NickFury to [[PoorlyDisguisedPilot set the character up for his own movie]]. Subsequent drafts also featured Howard Stark (who was still alive in this version) as Comicbook/WarMachine, the movie's BigBad. The execs also made bizarre demands and suggestions, such as saying that Iron Man shouldn't fly and should suit up by using a toaster. DavidHayter Creator/DavidHayter did some work on the script, while both Creator/JossWhedon and Nick Cassavetes were approached to direct. When production stalled for too long, the license lapsed and the rights returned to Marvel.



* When Fox still had the Daredevil rights, Kevin Feige reportedly offered them an extension in exchange for Fox returning {{Galactus}} and the SilverSurfer. This means there's an alternate timeline somewhere where the Netflix ''Daredevil'' show never happened, but Marvel got to use Galactus and the Surfer in ''Guardians of the Galaxy'' and ''Infinity War''.

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* When Fox still had the Daredevil rights, Kevin Feige reportedly offered them an extension in exchange for Fox returning {{Galactus}} ComicBook/{{Galactus}} and the SilverSurfer.ComicBook/SilverSurfer. This means there's an alternate timeline somewhere where the Netflix ''Daredevil'' show never happened, but Marvel got to use Galactus and the Surfer in ''Guardians of the Galaxy'' and ''Infinity War''.



George Lucas envisioned a grand universe for the ''Franchise/StarWars'' franchise, but not all of his ideas made it to the big screen:

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George Lucas Creator/GeorgeLucas envisioned a grand universe for the ''Franchise/StarWars'' franchise, but not all of his ideas made it to the big screen:



** Carrie Fisher and Sissy Spacek both auditioned for the lead roles in ''A New Hope'' and ''Film/{{Carrie}}'' (Female lead in the case of the former). So we were ''this'' close to Spacek as Princess Leia and Fisher as Carrie.

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** Carrie Fisher and Sissy Spacek both auditioned for the lead roles in ''A New Hope'' and ''Film/{{Carrie}}'' ''Film/{{Carrie|1976}}'' (Female lead in the case of the former). So we were ''this'' close to Spacek as Princess Leia and Fisher as Carrie.



*** Creator/KevinSmith was attached to the project at one point (after telling Creator/WarnerBros execs that the other writers knew nothing about the mythos), and comics fan Alex Ford wrote a treatment that, though ultimately rejected, was praised as being well-written and respectful to the source material. Smith [[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYhLIThTvk tells]] the story of his involvement in ''Superman'' more fully in his "Evening With Kevin Smith" DVD, including the connection to ''Film/WildWildWest''.

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*** Creator/KevinSmith was attached to the project at one point (after telling Creator/WarnerBros execs that the other writers knew nothing about the mythos), and comics fan Alex Ford wrote a treatment that, though ultimately rejected, was praised as being well-written and respectful to the source material. Smith [[http://www.[[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYhLIThTvk com/watch?v=Wo2KB1dEDdk tells]] the story of his involvement in ''Superman'' more fully in his "Evening With Kevin Smith" DVD, including the connection to ''Film/WildWildWest''.



*** After Kevin Smith exited, "Superman Lives", writer Wesley Strick was brought on to take a shot at it, and the results, in the words of i09, "would have made Film/BatmanAndRobin look like Film/TheDarkKnight." Read more about that script [[http://io9.com/5981002/proof-that-superman-lives-would-have-made-batman--robin-look-like-the-dark-knight here]].

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*** After Kevin Smith exited, "Superman Lives", ''Superman Lives'', writer Wesley Strick was brought on to take a shot at it, and the results, in the words of i09, "would have made Film/BatmanAndRobin ''Film/BatmanAndRobin'' look like Film/TheDarkKnight.''Film/TheDarkKnight''." Read more about that script [[http://io9.com/5981002/proof-that-superman-lives-would-have-made-batman--robin-look-like-the-dark-knight here]].



** Concept art has revealed that at one point, Rocksteady and Bebop from the [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 original TV show]] were going to appear as well. The sequel, ''[[Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesOutOfTheShadows Out Of The Shadows]]'', [[RefittedForSequel will feature them proper]].

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** Concept art has revealed that at one point, Rocksteady and Bebop from the [[WesternAnimation/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1987 original TV show]] were going to appear as well. The sequel, ''[[Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtlesOutOfTheShadows Out Of The Shadows]]'', [[RefittedForSequel will feature features them proper]].
24th Jun '16 11:28:55 AM DeepthroatGhoul
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* After plans to film ''City Under Siege'' in England were nixed, the idea was again considered for the seventh film under the working title of ''Operation Scotland Yard''. Paul Maslanky's revisited idea was to have Steve Guttenberg, Bubba Smith, and other former cast members unite with the cast for a GrandFinale to the franchise, with tenative plans for a 1991 theatrical release. However, the final product, ''Mission to Moscow'', ended up being a very different, much lower budget, DirectToVideo release, with Guttenberg, Smith, and others declining to return.
23rd Jun '16 11:38:53 AM Mario1995
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**Burton stated in an interview that he had initially wanted Creator/AdamWest and Julie Newmar, from the [[Series/{{Batman}} 1960s series]], to [[RemakeCameo play Thomas and Martha Wayne in the flashback]]. Audiences would recognize West and Newmar from the series and see them get shot, symbolizing the "death" of the old Batman. Script rewrites caused this to be scrapped, and West later said he wasn't even offered the role (and even if he was, he wouldn't have taken it).
16th Jun '16 12:19:59 PM Pinokio
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** William Shatner could have appeared as Kirk. During the Starfleet award ceremony, Spock would present a pendant containing a moving holographic recording of the older Kirk. The crew of the new timeline would look in awe witnessing the recording of Kirk's future self.


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** In one draft, there was no trip to Dagobah, and no Yoda. The Force would have been something anyone could tap into.


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** David Lynch or David Cronenberg could have been the directors.
13th Jun '16 10:45:21 AM Mario1995
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** ''Untitled Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles reboot (2011)'': After the AllCGICartoon ''WesternAnimation/{{TMNT}}'' failed to meet expectations, Warner Bros. decided to reboot the live-action film series, with input from ''TMNT'' franchise owner Mirage Comics. This film was to be a direct sequel to the [[Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1990 original movie]] that would outline the turtles' origins, which would have [[CanonDiscontinuity rendered the sequels non-canon]]. Like the failed ''The Foot Walks Again,'' this was to have a DarkerAndEdgier plot, but this time written by [[Film/YoungGuns John]] [[WesternAnimation/SpiritStallionOfTheCimarron Fusco]] and based off the original black and white comics created by ''Turtles'' creators Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird. Thanks to script disagreements from Creator/ParamountPictures (who was to co-produce the movie with Creator/WarnerBros and Creator/LegendaryPictures), the film didn't get very far when Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} acquired the rights to the ''TMNT'' property, directly resulting in Warner Bros. losing the film rights to the series, Fusco getting booted out, and causing this project to be scrapped entirely. Nickelodeon, with Paramount's input, decided to do things their own way, and what we instead got was a complete ContinuityReboot [[Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2014 released in 2014]].

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** ''Untitled Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles reboot (2011)'': After the AllCGICartoon ''WesternAnimation/{{TMNT}}'' failed to meet expectations, Warner Bros. decided to reboot the live-action film series, with input from ''TMNT'' franchise owner Mirage Comics. This film was to be a direct sequel to the [[Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles1990 original movie]] that would outline the turtles' origins, which would have [[CanonDiscontinuity rendered the sequels non-canon]]. Like the failed ''The Foot Walks Again,'' this was to have a DarkerAndEdgier plot, but this time written by [[Film/YoungGuns John]] [[WesternAnimation/SpiritStallionOfTheCimarron Fusco]] and based off the original black and white comics created by from ''Turtles'' creators Kevin Eastman and Peter Laird. Thanks to script disagreements from Creator/ParamountPictures (who was to co-produce the movie with Creator/WarnerBros and Creator/LegendaryPictures), Creator/LegendaryPictures, in their second collaboration following ''Film/{{Watchmen}}''), the film didn't get very far when Creator/{{Nickelodeon}} acquired the rights to the ''TMNT'' property, directly resulting in Warner Bros. losing the film rights to the series, Fusco getting booted out, and causing this project to be scrapped entirely. Nickelodeon, with Paramount's input, decided to do things their own way, and what we instead got was a complete ContinuityReboot [[Film/TeenageMutantNinjaTurtles2014 released in 2014]].
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