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17th Aug '17 1:51:27 PM Scabbard
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'''You'd Expect''': Aang, spiritual being as he is. to remember that messing with gods for their knowledge can lead to bad things happening. You'd expect he would warn Sokka about this. Also, given a spirit kidnapped Sokka a season ago that he would remember DoNotTauntCthulhu.\\

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'''You'd Expect''': Aang, spiritual being as he is. is, to remember that messing with gods spirits for their knowledge can lead to bad things happening. You'd expect he would warn Sokka about this. Also, given a spirit kidnapped Sokka a season ago that he would remember DoNotTauntCthulhu.\\
18th May '17 4:57:50 PM N.Harmonik
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'''Instead:''' She starts talking shit right back, challenges him to a duel and then attacks him with he refuses, any of which would ensure he'll never agree to teach Aang again.

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'''Instead:''' She starts talking shit right back, challenges him to a duel and then attacks him with when he refuses, any of which would ensure he'll never agree to teach Aang again.
24th Apr '17 6:53:45 PM Jayalaw
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* During one of their trips through the Earth Kingdom, we had a crazy general trying to force Aang into the Avatar State.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The General would NOT try to piss off the AVATAR. Or to just realize that you ''CANNOT'' control a supernatural force.\\
'''Instead:''' He has his men attack Aang for twenty minutes of the episode, and when he finally does go into the Avatar State, the crazy bastard doesn't seem to mind that he and his men are getting their ASSES WHOOPED. Even when Aang's finally finished his mad rampage, he wonders out loud how to control him when he's in that state. Thank you for interfering, Sokka.

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* During one of their trips through the Earth Kingdom, we had a crazy war-weary general trying to force Aang into the Avatar State.State, to end the war with the Fire Nation early. After a FailureMontage, which includes [[HilarityEnsues giving Aang caffeinated tea and pouring mud on him]], Aang admits that he thinks the state can only be activated when he is in danger.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' The General would KnowWhenToFoldEm and NOT try to piss off the AVATAR. Or to just realize that you ''CANNOT'' control a supernatural force.force if it needs a violent trigger.\\
'''Instead:''' He has his men attack Aang for twenty minutes of in the episode, climax, and when he Aang finally does go into the Avatar State, the crazy bastard doesn't seem to mind that he and his men are getting their ASSES WHOOPED. Even when Aang's finally finished his mad rampage, he wonders out loud how to control him when he's in that state. Thank you for interfering, Sokka.



* Wan Shi Tong has let the team into his library, one of the most sacred things he has. He is incredibly suspicious of them and all humans, due to his belief that humans only seek knowledge to compete with other humans, and the fact that the last human visitor burnt down a section of his library and used his knowledge for destruction and violence. He tells them not to do the same as him, however Sokka finds some partly destroyed information which he can use to find a fire-nation weakness.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' They'd use the utmost discretion, continue to check for his presence, not only out of respect for abusing the library, but also because Wan Shi Tong is a spirit (who dwarfs them), and the last angered spirit took on an entire armada with the help of the Avatar.\\
'''Instead:''' Sokka quite loudly announces that with the information they can finally destroy the Fire Nation, and Wan Shi Tong is obviously right behind him. Wan Shi Tong subsequently tries to kill the Gaang and bury the library for good, with the lot of them still inside it.

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* While the Gaang is taking mini-vacations, Sokka is determined to use his for war intel to beat the Fire Nation. He finds out from a scholar that there's a great library in the desert, run by spirits. When they get there, the Librarian Wan Shi Tong asks if they are looking for war knowledge. Wan Shi Tong is incredibly suspicious of them and all humans, due to his belief that humans only seek knowledge to compete with other humans, and the fact that the last human visitor burnt down a section of his library and used his knowledge for destruction and violence. He tells them not to do the same as him, however\\
'''You'd Expect''': Aang, spiritual being as he is. to remember that messing with gods for their knowledge can lead to bad things happening. You'd expect he would warn Sokka about this. Also, given a spirit kidnapped Sokka a season ago that he would remember DoNotTauntCthulhu.\\
'''Instead''': Aang rapidly vouches for Sokka when the latter asks and doesn't warn him about the danger of messing with spirits. He also doesn't remonstrate Sokka for slipping various scrolls into his sack. This means that when Wan Shi Tong catches them, Aang can only give a weak apology that they're trying to do the right thing. Wan Shi Tong then points out that ''all'' humans believe that they are doing the right thing, and he's not going to let them abuse his knowledge anymore.
* Wan Shi Tong has let the team into his library, one of the most sacred things he has. He is incredibly suspicious of them and all humans, due to his belief that humans only seek knowledge to compete with other humans, and the fact that the last human visitor burnt down a section of his library and used his knowledge for destruction and violence. He tells them not to do the same as him, however Sokka finds some partly destroyed information which he can use to find a fire-nation weakness.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' They'd Having gone this far, they'd DoWrongRight and use the utmost discretion, continue to check for his presence, not only out of respect for abusing the library, but also because Wan Shi Tong is a spirit (who dwarfs them), and the last angered spirit took on an entire armada with the help of the Avatar.\\
'''Instead:''' Sokka quite loudly announces that with the information they can finally destroy the Fire Nation, and Wan Shi Tong is obviously right behind him. Wan Shi Tong subsequently tries to kill the Gaang and bury the library for good, with the lot of them still inside it. Karma later hits the Gaang: the intel about the solar eclipse leads to a failed coup in season three, with most of the misfit army captured.
* While talking to the scholar, he warns them about desert Sandbenders. The Sandbenders notice the Gaang at the dried up tavern, along with their flying bison.\\
'''You'd Expect''': The Sandbenders to realize that flying bison are rare, and thus it must belong to the ''Avatar'', who is the Earth Kingdom's only hope of ending the war. Also that they must not reinforce the stereotypes that they are petty bandits, which the scholar mentions.\\
'''Instead''': The Sandbenders don't consider these ramifications. They follow the Gaang into the desert and steal Appa while they're all in the Library, stranding the Avatar in a hostile environment. If Aang had died in the desert, the Fire Nation would have won then and there. Then when the Gaang miraculously makes it out, the ringleader of the thieving Sandbenders accuses ''them'' of stealing the abandoned sandcraft, while his father points out if the Gaang survived the desert they are guests and deserve SacredHospitality. Toph, who witnessed Appa's kidnapping, recognizes the voices, and Aang goes into the Avatar State on hearing Appa was muzzled, destroying everything in sight. The son's weak apology that [[NotHelpingYourCase he didn't know it was the Avatar's bison]] does not placate Aang, and his father shouts, "[[OhCrap What have you done]]?!" If not for Katara, the Sandbenders would have died by sandstorm.


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* Jet on realizing Iroh is a firebender decides to get proof. He finds that Iroh is more resourceful thanks to Zuko chiding him, and thus Jet gets no evidence.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Jet to just let it go, as his friends advise him. They're starting a new life, and so far Iroh and Zuko aren't posing a threat to anyone by making tea. He can act if he sees anything suspicious.\\
'''Instead''': Jet storms into the tea shop and threatens Iroh at swordpoint, gambling that Iroh and Zuko can only firebend. To the patrons, he looks like a lunatic threatening a harmless tea maker. Zuko then defends his uncle with his swords, and fights Jet long enough for the police to arrest him and take him away.
8th Apr '17 10:06:19 PM NumberFortyFour
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* When Katara goes after the Fire Nation General that killed her mother, we learn that he did so during a raid to find a rumored waterbender in hiding. It turns out Katara's mother lied to the general about being the waterbender to protect Katara.
'''You'd Expect:''' That the general would demand proof to ensure that they had found the right person.

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* When Katara goes after the Fire Nation General that killed her mother, we learn that he did so during a raid to find a rumored waterbender in hiding. It turns out Katara's mother lied to the general about being the waterbender to protect Katara.
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'''You'd Expect:''' That the general would demand proof to ensure that they had found the right person.\\
8th Apr '17 10:05:18 PM NumberFortyFour
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* When Katara goes after the Fire Nation General that killed her mother, we learn that he did so during a raid to find a rumored waterbender in hiding. It turns out Katara's mother lied to the general about being the waterbender to protect Katara.
'''You'd Expect:''' That the general would demand proof to ensure that they had found the right person.
'''Instead:''' He instantly believes her without question and kills her, allowing Katara to remain hidden. Given that Katara was the one who ended up discovering Aang, the general's idiocy indirectly led to the downfall of the entire empire.
10th Feb '17 4:36:15 PM Valiona
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* Series finale. Aang has been advised in a two to one vote by the previous four Avatars (Yangchen and Kyoshi vs Kuruk, with Roku just saying "[[CrypticallyUnhelpfulAnswer Be decisive]]") to kill Fire Lord Ozai.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Aang to take their advice and put aside his own spiritual needs. Don't want to pull the trigger yourself? That's fine, hand over control to the Avatar State, or one of the previous Avatars.\\
'''Or:''' If Aang doesn't want Ozai to be killed through him, he could use his bending to restrain him either until Ozai can be taken into custody, or until Sozin's Comet passes, stripping him of his souped-up firebending. There's lots of options.\\
'''Instead:''' He gambles the safety of the world on a completely new, totally untested technique that he learned like a day ago, and very nearly loses his life in the process. It works (barely), but it was an unacceptable risk with no inherent benefit.

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* Series finale. Aang has been advised in a two to one vote by the previous four Avatars (Yangchen and Kyoshi vs Kuruk, with Roku just saying "[[CrypticallyUnhelpfulAnswer Be decisive]]") to kill Fire Lord Ozai.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Aang to take their advice and put aside his own spiritual needs. Don't want to pull the trigger yourself? That's fine, hand over control to the Avatar State, or one of the previous Avatars.\\
'''Or:''' If Aang doesn't want Ozai to be killed through him, he could use his bending to restrain him either until Ozai can be taken into custody, or until Sozin's Comet passes, stripping him of his souped-up firebending. There's lots of options.\\
'''Instead:''' He gambles the safety of the world on a completely new, totally untested technique that he learned like a day ago, and very nearly loses his life in the process. It works (barely), but it was an unacceptable risk with no inherent benefit.
13th Jan '17 11:17:50 AM oforiousmic
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* And of course, the defining idiocy of the series comes from Admiral Zhao during the first season finale. Zhao is invading the Northern Water Tribe in order to stop Aang from learning waterbending. Zhao is also aware that the Ocean and Moon spirits (the entities that power waterbending) are in the heart of the Tribe's city in the form of relatively harmless koi fish. Killing the Moon Spirit would destroy waterbending, however it would also cause serious trouble for the whole world, as both Aang and Iroh warn Zhao.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Zhao to realize that ''killing the moon'' is not only a mite bit overkill, but also would hurt the Fire Nation just as much as the rest of the world. So he'd think of some alternative that isn't nearly as stupid.\\

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* And of course, the defining idiocy of the series comes from Admiral Zhao during the first season finale. Zhao is invading the Northern Water Tribe in order to stop Aang from learning waterbending. Zhao is also aware that the Ocean and Moon spirits (the entities that power waterbending) are in the heart of the Tribe's city in the form of relatively harmless koi fish. Killing the Moon Spirit would destroy waterbending, however it would also cause serious trouble for the whole world, as both Aang and Iroh warn Zhao. Not to mention that Iroh, one of the strongest firebenders in the world, had just threatened him to stop.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Zhao to realize that ''killing the moon'' is not only a mite bit overkill, but also would hurt the Fire Nation just as much as the rest of the world. So he'd think of some alternative that isn't nearly as stupid.stupid, like maybe taking the moon spirit hostage to ensure the cooperation of the Northern Water Tribe.\\
24th Aug '16 12:56:39 AM Loekman3
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** Zuko is clearly conflicted on what to do regarding the colonies and decides to ask someone for help.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That he consults his uncle, whom always gives the best advice he needs or better yet, someone from the Gaang surely could give him a useful advice regarding the whole Harmonious issue.\\
'''Instead:''' He consults the {{Jerkass}} and manipulative Ozai. While he does give Zuko advice regarding leadership, it makes Zuko acting more his father and makes the people believe that he is starting to become one.
12th May '16 6:20:02 PM Ninja857142
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'''Instead:''' She attacks them with only two Dai Li agents. The Gaang defeats them, and they even manage to catch Azula herself! It was basically luck that she wasn't injured, or killed. Azula does manage to escape, but so does the Faang (again), and Aang inevitably fulfills his destiny, defeating Ozai and the Fire Nation. Oops.

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'''Instead:''' She attacks them with only two Dai Li agents. The Gaang defeats them, and they even manage to catch Azula herself! It was basically luck that she wasn't injured, or killed. Azula does manage to escape, but so does the Faang Gaang (again), and Aang inevitably fulfills his destiny, defeating Ozai and the Fire Nation. Oops.
14th Apr '16 6:58:09 PM Jayalaw
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* Hama eventually does find a potential student by accident: Katara, who is also from the Southern Water Tribe and has a reasonable grudge against the Fire Nation, since Fire Nation soldiers killed her mother. During the full moon, she reveals to Katara the art of blood-bending as well as her role in kidnapping random {{Innocent Bystander}}s at night.\\
'''You'd Expect''': For Katara to go OhCrap on realizing that she's facing a BlackAndWhiteInsanity woman that can manipulate people like puppets with their bodily fluids and has done so for decades. Katara could then try to make an excuse to leave as soon as possible, create a distraction and run for the cover of the woods where Hama won't be able to see her without the moonlight, or beg to only learn the movements without having to use them on a living thing. Either way, it's best for her to go ScrewThisImOuttaHere and find the others.\\
'''Instead''': Katara openly declares that she will never use blood-bending. Hama then blood-bends her, forcing her to learn the movements anyway, and lampshades Katara "betraying" her without having learned from her. Although Katara eventually overpowers Hama, the scars of blood-bending stay with her, especially when forced to use to to save Aang and her brother.



'''Instead:''' She attacks them with only two Dai Li agents. The gaang defeats them, and they even manage to catch Azula herself! It was basically luck that she wasn't injured, or killed. Azula does manage to escape, but so does the gaang (again), and Aang inevitably fulfills his destiny, defeating Ozai and the Fire Nation. Oops.

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'''Instead:''' She attacks them with only two Dai Li agents. The gaang Gaang defeats them, and they even manage to catch Azula herself! It was basically luck that she wasn't injured, or killed. Azula does manage to escape, but so does the gaang Faang (again), and Aang inevitably fulfills his destiny, defeating Ozai and the Fire Nation. Oops.



'''Instead:''' Zuko being [[DidntThinkThisThrough Zuko]], only practices his "Hello, Zuko here" speech on a frog and while apologizing to the Gaang for [[ListOfTransgressions his past actions]] reveals that he sent "Combustion Man" after them. ([[ComicallyMissingThePoint "That's not his real name."]]) If not for Combustion Man arriving just in time and aid the Gaang against him some earning him some good favours, he would have had no chance of convincing them ''at all''.
* Meanwhile Aang still needs a Firebending teacher, and lo and behold, Zuko appears and basically offers assistance to the Gaang.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Sokka and Katara put aside their grudge against Zuko, consider the fate of the world and how Aang ''really'' needs to learn Firebending and reluctantly allow Zuko to join. Keep in mind that he's quite possibly the ''only'' Firebender in the world now who would be willing to help.\\

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'''Instead:''' Zuko Zuko, being [[DidntThinkThisThrough Zuko]], only practices his "Hello, Zuko here" speech on a frog and while apologizing to the Gaang for [[ListOfTransgressions his past actions]] reveals that he sent "Combustion Man" after them. ([[ComicallyMissingThePoint "That's not his real name."]]) If not for Combustion Man arriving just in time and aid the Gaang against him some earning him some good favours, he would have had no chance of convincing them ''at all''.
* Meanwhile Aang still needs a Firebending teacher, and lo and behold, Zuko appears and basically offers assistance to the Gaang. He even offers to surrender as a prisoner if they don't trust him.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That Sokka and Katara put aside their reasonable grudge against Zuko, consider the fate of the world and how Aang ''really'' needs to learn Firebending and reluctantly allow Zuko to join. Keep in mind that he's quite possibly the ''only'' Firebender in the world now who would be willing to help.help since Jeong Jeong is in hiding and Iroh, who helped the Gaang escape in the season two finale, is presumably imprisoned. In addition, given the Gaang has three benders [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg "and Sokka"]] as Toph put it once, they could all serve as BetrayalInsurance if Zuko is lying or becomes tempted to return to the Fire Nation's side, especially Katara with her TeamMom attitude and recently-gained ability to bloodbend.\\



'''Result:''' This explanation completely fails to satisfy Toph, who assumes that Aang is once again putting his people's traditions over the rest of the world, and the two of them get into a battle that could have ended in one of them getting killed if Old Iron hadn't shown up when he did.

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'''Result:''' This explanation completely fails to satisfy Toph, who assumes that Aang is once again putting his people's traditions over the rest of the world, and the two of them get into a battle that could have ended in one of them getting killed if Old Iron hadn't shown up when he did.
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