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27th Aug '16 1:00:17 PM Jayalaw
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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ratatouille}}:

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27th Aug '16 12:59:56 PM Jayalaw
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'''Instead''': Rapunzel delivers an epic CallingTheOldManOut, refusing to listen to her adoptive mother turns her back on Gothel after knocking her down. This gives Gothel, who realizes that Rapunzel will no longer listen to her, an opportunity to sneak up on her and chain her.

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'''Instead''': Rapunzel delivers an epic CallingTheOldManOut, refusing to listen to her adoptive mother turns and turning her back on Gothel after knocking her down. This gives Gothel, who realizes that Rapunzel will no longer listen to her, an opportunity to sneak up on her and chain her.



* ''Zootopia''

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* ''WesternAnimation/{{Ratatouille}}:
** Alfredo Linguini, a young clumsy man whose mother has died recently, comes to Gusteau's asking for a job. Chef Skinner doesn't like him, but he accepts his second-in-command hiring Linguini for the menial garbage boy position.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Linguini to do his job: clean up the kitchen and wash dishes.\\
'''Instead''': After spilling some soup, Linguini on an impulse decides to add extra ingredients to it that makes the soup taste terrible. He nearly gets fired because Chef Skinner catches him with a ladle in his hand, and would have lost his job if Remy hadn't been watching and fixed the soup in record time. Chef Skinner decides to hold a grudge against Linguini as a result and watch him closely while hiring him as a chef on probation.
** Following this, Linguini and Remy form an alliance so that Remy can cook for Linguini in the kitchen. They come up with a system so that when Remy pulls on Linguini's hair, Linguini's body moves like a marionette.\\
'''You'd Expect''': That Linguini while working with Remy would start writing the recipes down, or figure out a way to communicate with the rat. Remy can't write but he can read, and Linguini can understand most of his miming. Practically speaking there may be occasions of them getting separated, or even Linguini wanting to give Remy a night off. If on the off-chance their relationship goes sour, which it does, Linguini will be able to tell the other chefs how to replicate the dishes like Linguini's Sweetbread. Linguini also has the capability to take notes and listen, as he does when Collette mentors him.\\
'''Instead''': Linguini doesn't think this far ahead. While he accuses Remy of treating him like a puppet after a silly argument over the press and the reviewer Anton Ego and then [[spoiler:kicks him out of the kitchen when Remy leads hordes of rats into the restaurant out of spite, the next day]] he realizes that without "Little Chef"'s recipes the kitchen can't function and impress Ego with a new dish. [[spoiler: ''Collette'' manages to do this, by cooking alongside Remy when she talks to him and he shows her his way of making ratatouille.]]
** After the night of success with changing a sweetbread recipe, and Remy reuniting with his family, he returns to the restaurant to find Linguini passed out on the kitchen floor after a night of cleaning while drunk. Remy hears Collette entering as well.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Remy to let Collette find Linguini sleeping. It's not a bad thing given the kitchen is clean and that he performed double duty as garbage boy and chef, which means that to Collette either Linguini is a dedicated worker or the boss's puppy to kick.\\
'''Instead''': Remy uses his marionette skills and a pair of sunglasses to feign that Linguini is awake, and Collette takes offense with how Linguini won't talk about his night talking to the boss since if not for her, he wouldn't have made it so far.
23rd Aug '16 2:54:36 PM Jayalaw
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'''Instead''': The police chief doesn't do this; [[spoiler: newly appointed Mayor Bellwether has reasons for making sure the conference goes wrong]]. ''[[DeadpanSnarker Nick]]'' offers Judy a few words of advice right before the conference that only help with the first few questions. She then makes the mistake of saying [[spoiler:that all the animals caught were predators, and reveals a prejudice that only predators can go feral.]] This [[spoiler:ruins her budding friendship with Nick, causes an animal race war in Zootopia, sends her friend Clawhauser away from the police HQ's front desk, and drives Judy to TurnInHerBadge since she "broke" the world instead of fixing it.]]

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'''Instead''': The police chief doesn't do this; [[spoiler: newly appointed Mayor Bellwether has reasons for making sure the conference goes wrong]]. ''[[DeadpanSnarker Nick]]'' offers Judy a few words of advice right before the conference that only help with the first few questions. She then makes the mistake of saying [[spoiler:that all the animals caught were predators, and reveals a prejudice that only predators can go feral.]] This [[spoiler:ruins her budding friendship with Nick, causes an animal race war in Zootopia, sends her friend Clawhauser away from the police HQ's front desk, and drives Judy to TurnInHerBadge TurnInYourBadge since she "broke" the world instead of fixing it.]]
23rd Aug '16 2:53:44 PM Jayalaw
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'''You'd Expect''': For the police chief to give Judy some coaching, and for her to talk through potential answers, especially since [[spoiler:all the feral animals were predators and the wrong words could cause political tensions to erupt]].

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'''You'd Expect''': For the police chief to give Judy some coaching, and for her to talk through potential answers, especially since [[spoiler:all the feral animals were predators and the wrong words could cause political tensions to erupt]].\\
23rd Aug '16 2:52:56 PM Jayalaw
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'''You'd Expect''': The birds and animals would appoint themselves as watch animals for Snow White and keep an eye out for the Queen, or anyone that may appear suspicious. The dwarves could also do this, leaving one dwarf like Dopey behind for the day until they have an alarm system in place. Dopey may be, well, Dopey but even he can swing a hammer like nobody's business. Snow White is only fourteen, and while she's an ActionSurvivor she also is too kind for her own good. The birds are shown as highly able to fly long distance in a short amount of time.\\

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'''You'd Expect''': The birds and animals would appoint themselves as an informal day watch animals for Snow White and keep an eye out for the Queen, or anyone that may appear suspicious. The dwarves could also do this, leaving one dwarf like Dopey behind for the day until they have an alarm system in place. Dopey may be, well, Dopey but even he can swing a hammer like nobody's business. Snow White is only fourteen, and while she's an ActionSurvivor she also is too kind for her own good. The birds are shown as highly able to fly long distance in a short amount of time.\\



* In ''Disney/TheAristocats'', the cats return home from the countryside but the kittens discover the pet door is locked. They try meowing to get Madame's attention only to be interrupted by Roquefort who warns them about Edgar.\\

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* In ''Disney/TheAristocats'', the plot kicks off when TheButler Edgar overhears his Madame making out her will. To his dismay, he finds that she's leaving her fortune to her cats before he can inherit. Edgar firmly believes that cats have nine lives and thus he will outlive all of the cats.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Edgar to realize that this gives him her fortune by default. As the cats' caretaker till the end of their lives, he'd double as their guardian and thus would have access to Madame's millions.\\
'''Instead''': Edgar decides he'll get rid of the cats to inherit the fortune, by drugging them and ditching them in the French countryside, and he makes several mistakes. First, he fails to make an alibi for himself, although Madame and the cats trust him too much to suspect wrongdoing. Second, he leaves a lot of evidence in the countryside, which he has to retrieve the next night and does so with great labor. Third, when the cats return he has the bright idea of mailing them off to Timbuktu so that they can't return after Madame nearly hears them meowing. As a result of this waste of effort, combined with the efforts of the alley cats that Duchess and her kittens, leads to Edgar being mailed off to Timbuktu after a HumiliationConga and stricken from the will because Madame believes he ran away.
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cats return home from the countryside but the kittens discover the pet door is locked. They try meowing to get Madame's attention only to be interrupted by Roquefort who warns them about Edgar.\\



'''Instead:''' They interpret Roquefort's jumping around as excitement out of seeing them back. They continue to meow until Edgar opens the door and puts them in a sack.

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'''Instead:''' They can't hear him through the glass window and interpret Roquefort's jumping around as excitement out of seeing them back. They continue to meow until Edgar opens the door and puts them in a sack.



'''You'd Expect''': As a prince with a loyal kingdom, he would bring in TheCavalry, including the sailors that told him the myth of Triton (and Ursula in the deleted SpoilerOpening), which he does do in the stage version. He already knows that Ursula at the least can do dangerous magic, and has the strength of a large octopus at the least.\\

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'''You'd Expect''': As a prince with a loyal kingdom, he would bring in TheCavalry, including the sailors that told him the myth of Triton (and Ursula in the deleted SpoilerOpening), which he does do in the stage version. He already knows that Ursula at the least can do dangerous magic, and has the strength of a large octopus at the least.\\



** In the beginning of ''The Little Mermaid 2'', Ursula's sister Morgana shows up at the celebration of Ariel and Eric's daughter Melody's birth, still angry at them for killing her sister. Out of revenge, she threatens baby Melody's life. It takes quick thinking for Ariel and Eric to save their baby, but Morgana escapes and vows to return.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Ariel to just tell Melody that Morgana would kill her if she went into the sea. Or, if not wanting to scare the heck out of her, say there's a threat out in the sea and no one can go out there until it's taken care of.\\

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** In the beginning of ''The Little Mermaid 2'', Ursula's sister Morgana shows up at the celebration of Ariel and Eric's daughter Melody's birth, still angry at them for killing her sister. Out of revenge, she threatens baby Melody's life. It takes quick thinking for life by snatching her in a sneak attack and dangling her over a shark, demanding Triton's trident. Triton prepares to surrender it since he doesn't want his granddaughter hurt.
'''You'd Expect''': She'd stay out of range from
Ariel and Eric to save their baby, but Morgana escapes Eric, especially since [[BadassNormal Eric]] took down her sister with his wits and vows to return.a wrecked ship, while holding Melody hostage.\\
'''Instead''': Much like Ursula, Morgana can't resist EvilGloating. She comes closer to the royal boat to explain that she's vengeful about them killing Ursula. [[MamaBear Ariel]] uses Eric's sword to cut a rope that leads to a mast hitting Morgana in the face, and [[PapaWolf Eric]] catches Melody as she sails through the air.
*** After this happens, Undertow the shark prepares to eat Melody after Morgana loses her hold on her. Triton still has his trident, which can reduce living beings to fragments and do much more damage.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Triton would [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim just kill Undertow]] when he has a clear shot. He's a PapaWolf as well and has previously shown no compunctions for causing collateral damage.\\
'''Instead''': Triton uses the trident to turn Undertow into a pathetic, tiny shark, who escapes with Morgana. Years later he seeks out Melody when she runs away from home to learn about the locket, and leads her to Morgana's icy lair.
*** After Ariel and Eric save their baby, Morgana escapes and vows to return.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' Ariel to just tell Melody that Morgana would kill her if she went into the sea.sea, and to have Triton establish a guard on the sea part of the kingdom so that Morgana's return would raise red flags. Or, if not wanting to scare the heck out of her, say there's a threat out in the sea and no one can go out there until it's taken care of.\\


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* ''Zootopia''
** After being assigned as a meter maid in the busy Zootopia streets, a frustrated Judy Hopps gives chase to a weasel that robs a vegetable store. After she arrests him, the police chief chews her out for abandoning her post and causing collateral damage in the smaller zones for a dozen bulbs.\\
'''You'd Expect''': Judy to apologetically point out that a civilian came to her asking for help, and ignoring them would have violated the police code of conduct. You'd also expect she would point out that none of the other cops alerted to the case were big enough to go into the smaller zones, and she cleaned up the damage that ensued, like saving a mole lady from a giant doughnut and keeping the buildings from falling.\\
'''Instead''': Judy focuses on the fact that she caught Duke Weaselton, that the bulbs aren't worthless which she knows as someone who grew up on a farm,[[spoiler: especially when she realizes their significance later]], and that she's deserving of more than parking duties. Judy's intransigence and impulsiveness doesn't endear her to the chief, who comes very close to firing her if not for Assistant Mayor Bellwether, and gives her an ultimatum about resigning.
** Later on, after [[spoiler:finding all the missing mammals within her "48 hour deadline" and arresting the Zootopia mayor]] Judy has to attend a press conference about the events and answer questions about the case.\\
'''You'd Expect''': For the police chief to give Judy some coaching, and for her to talk through potential answers, especially since [[spoiler:all the feral animals were predators and the wrong words could cause political tensions to erupt]].
'''Instead''': The police chief doesn't do this; [[spoiler: newly appointed Mayor Bellwether has reasons for making sure the conference goes wrong]]. ''[[DeadpanSnarker Nick]]'' offers Judy a few words of advice right before the conference that only help with the first few questions. She then makes the mistake of saying [[spoiler:that all the animals caught were predators, and reveals a prejudice that only predators can go feral.]] This [[spoiler:ruins her budding friendship with Nick, causes an animal race war in Zootopia, sends her friend Clawhauser away from the police HQ's front desk, and drives Judy to TurnInHerBadge since she "broke" the world instead of fixing it.]]
18th Aug '16 11:43:53 PM Anicomicgeek
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** Arkham Asylum is prison and mental institution currently holding super villains. Among its inmates are some of the worst criminals in Gotham City, known for having huge body counts.\\

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** Arkham Asylum is a prison and mental institution currently holding super villains. Among its inmates are some of the worst criminals in Gotham City, known for having huge body counts.\\
7th Aug '16 7:27:52 PM Jayalaw
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'''You'd Expect''': Shere Khan to realize that if Mowgli stays in the jungle, with most of the animals being his friends, that he would never become a hunter or logically have access to a gun since to get those you'd need to steal it from a human or reenter civilization. Mowgli himself says he wouldn't grow up to be a hunter and [[StatingTheSimpleSolution they should just tell Shere Khan that]], and Baloo [[DumbassHasAPoint says that Mowgli wouldn't be able to get one.]] Surely a compromise could be reached.\\
'''Instead''': Shere Khan at some point off-screen ignores this logic and pursues Mowgli, forcing the wolves, Baloo and Bagheera to escort him back to humanity. Mowgli also discovers fire and uses it against the tiger, meaning a SelfFulfillingProphecy ensued with him learning to use weapons against animals. Now that Mowgli is in the man-village, likely to become a homesteader, [NiceJobFixingItVillain he's even ''more'' likely to get a gun]]!

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'''You'd Expect''': Shere Khan to realize that if Mowgli stays in the jungle, with most of the animals being his friends, that he would never become a hunter or logically have access to a gun since to get those you'd need to steal it from a human or reenter civilization. Mowgli himself says he wouldn't grow up to be a hunter and [[StatingTheSimpleSolution they should just tell Shere Khan that]], and Baloo [[DumbassHasAPoint says that Mowgli wouldn't be able to get one.a gun.]] Surely a compromise could be reached.\\
'''Instead''': Shere Khan at some point off-screen ignores this logic and pursues Mowgli, forcing the wolves, Baloo and Bagheera to escort him back to humanity. Mowgli also discovers fire and uses it against the tiger, meaning a SelfFulfillingProphecy ensued with him learning to use weapons against animals. Now that Mowgli is in the man-village, likely to become a homesteader, [NiceJobFixingItVillain [[NiceJobFixingItVillain he's even ''more'' likely to get a gun]]!



'''Instead:''' not only to they recklessly charge straight into Baloo without taking any care not get Louie by accident, but [[FromBadToWorse this ends up knocking Louie straight another pillar that crumbles,]] winding up with [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Baloo in the same spot that Louie was in earlier and Louie now stuck holding up another part of the doomed building.]] Only now does [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere Baloo decide he's had enough and runs off with Mowgli and Bagheera]] while [[Main/{{Determinator}} Louie just stays there hoping to keep his building from falling;]] just as the whole palace is splitting in half and nearly flattens our heroes.

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'''Instead:''' not Not only to they recklessly charge straight into Baloo without taking any care not get Louie by accident, but [[FromBadToWorse this ends up knocking Louie straight another pillar that crumbles,]] winding up with [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Baloo in the same spot that Louie was in earlier and Louie now stuck holding up another part of the doomed building.]] Only now does [[ScrewThisImOuttaHere Baloo decide he's had enough and runs off with Mowgli and Bagheera]] while [[Main/{{Determinator}} Louie just stays there hoping to keep his building from falling;]] just as the whole palace is splitting in half and nearly flattens our heroes.
7th Aug '16 7:26:26 PM Jayalaw
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* In ''WesternAnimation/RecessSchoolsOut'', the BigBad is upset that the students are falling behind in the academic tests and wants to do something to improve it.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That he simply tries to enforce several strict rules such as either be more punctual, a punishment such as a detention for receiving low grades or simply gave them a pre-school tasks such as one to do in a summer vacation. You'd also expect that he recognize that sometimes, students and teachers needed breaks and thus he keeps continue to allow summer vacation as a relief from the school pressures.\\
'''Instead:''' Somehow he thinks that it's a good idea to create a global Ice Age just to get remove the summer vacation and recesses all because he thinks that working all day is going to improve the marks and gets promoted into a president because of his InsaneTrollLogic. Safe to say, if his plans ended up being executed perfectly, he would have done a hundred times more harm than good in the long run.

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* In ''WesternAnimation/RecessSchoolsOut'', the BigBad is upset that the students are falling behind in the academic tests in the 1960s and wants to do something to improve it.it. He decides that the best thing to do is to cancel recess, first at Third Street School and then as Secretary of Education. Neither of these attempts go well and get him fired.\\
'''You'd Expect:''' That he change his tactics, study what the high-performing countries like Japan do with testing, and simply tries try to enforce several strict rules such as either be more punctual, a punishment such as a detention for receiving low grades or simply gave them a pre-school tasks such as one to do in a summer vacation. You'd also expect that he recognize that sometimes, students and teachers needed breaks and thus he keeps continue to allow summer vacation as a relief from the school pressures. In fact, one episode of ''Recess'' showed that getting rid of recess leads to lower test scores and morale. It says something if you lose your job twice due to an overly strict mandate, so best to refine your methods.\\
'''Instead:''' Somehow He refuses to learn from his mistakes, first blaming Principal Prickley for getting him fired, stealing his job and girlfriend Muriel Finster; we don't hear his opinion on the president firing him. Later on somehow he thinks that it's a good idea to create a global Ice Age just to get remove the summer vacation and recesses all because he thinks that with ice and snow that kids will just sit inside and study. He also believes that working all day is going to improve the marks and gets get him promoted into a president because of his InsaneTrollLogic.InsaneTrollLogic that countries like Canada, Iceland and Norway have colder seasons. Safe to say, if his plans ended up being executed perfectly, he would have done a hundred times more harm than good in the long run. TJ also points out that kids will find ways to have fun in the snow: "You can get rid of summer, but you can't get rid of summer vacation!"
** Also in the film Benedict's plan involves using a stolen tractor beam to move the moon to another position, to create permanent winter in the United States on the day that the moon is closest to the Earth.\\
'''You'd Expect''': He would make sure the location is out of sight, and in a prime place to move the moon, say an observatory in the mountains where no one will notice. Also that he would cover up any misdeeds efficiently.\\
'''Instead''': He chooses Third Street School, which his hired scientists say is not suitable for the position, due to his obsession with having lost his job there. TJ, one of the two kids left in town after summer camp, sees the green glow from the tractor beam in ''broad daylight'', and his friends later see it in the evening which makes them suspicious. Then after kidnapping Prickley, Benedict tosses the principal's golf pants in the trash and the bald guy impersonating Prickley unmasks himself in broad daylight while gloating about taking away the pants. The end result is that TJ and his friends find out about Benedict's plan and foils it.
*** While this has been going on, three parties have informed the police about the strange things going on at the school: TJ, his friends, and Ms. Finster. TJ talks about the school safe being levitated, his friends mention scientists with a strange beam, and Ms. Finster reports ninjas.\\
'''You'd Expect''': TJ ans his friends are one thing, but Ms. Finster is a respectable adult. At the very least the police can open an investigation and set up a stakeout at the school.\\
'''Instead''': The police take a report from TJ, but they laugh. Each time, even with Ms. Finster. This means the kids have to rely on themselves to form an army from their classmates, and Finster follows suit [[CrowningMomentOfAwesome with the teachers]].
7th Aug '16 6:20:36 PM Jayalaw
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*** The head guard Razoul also has a major IdiotBall moment. After the first wedding's disruption, he has a great incentive to catch the forty thieves. Saluk, who has survived a great fall and a shark attack, comes to him with information on how to catch the King of Thieves and claim his incentive is to make Agrabah safer. Razoul is suspicious but gets useful information.\\
'''You'd Expect''': He would recognize Saluk as one of the forty thieves that attacked at the wedding and humiliated the Royal Guard, since not many people go around wearing brass claws, and take him into custody. They should then interrogate him more forcefully later. They can work out a plea deal once Kassim is caught, and once the Sultan has time to sentence all the prisoners after the wedding. The other thieves call out Saluk for being a traitor when he goes to see them in prison, so the guards should obviously figure out that Saluk is one of them.\\
'''Instead''': Razoul trusts Saluk after he learns the "Open Sesame" password wasn't a trick, and the Guard captures all but seven of the thieves. After Saluk reveals that Aladdin's father is the King of Thieves, Razoul lets Saluk go to set a trap for Kassim with the Oracle. This leaves Saluk free to go and turn the remaining seven thieves against Kassim when he returns.


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*** After all of this, Rapunzel by studying the sun handkerchief she got and the imagery she's painted all over the tower, as well as flashbacks from the Festival, realizes she's the lost princess. Rapunzel confronts Gothel, whose OhCrap response reveals that she's not really Rapunzel's mother has been keeping her prisoner for selfish purposes.\\
'''You'd Expect''': She realizes that Gothel is a monster and possessive about her flower leaving, thus to not make her suspicious. Rapunzel should pretend to accept her mother's justifications [[ToughLove about protecting her]] and hightail it out of the tower as soon as Gothel is distracted and make it back to the kingdom.\\
'''Instead''': Rapunzel delivers an epic CallingTheOldManOut, refusing to listen to her adoptive mother turns her back on Gothel after knocking her down. This gives Gothel, who realizes that Rapunzel will no longer listen to her, an opportunity to sneak up on her and chain her.
3rd Aug '16 11:43:39 PM Anicomicgeek
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'''Instead:''' Even ignoring the film's ties to the ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries'', it's freaking ''[[BedlamHouse Arkham]] [[CardboardPrison Asylum]]'', a place repeatedly shown throughout the ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' franchise to be staffed by people who are incompetent, corrupt, or both. Of course, the warden's passwords are his birthday going backwards, all of the cells can be unlocked by one switch, and criminals like Bane and Scarecrow are locked up with their costumes and weapons.

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'''Instead:''' Even ignoring the film's ties to the ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamSeries'', it's freaking ''[[BedlamHouse Arkham]] [[CardboardPrison Asylum]]'', a place repeatedly shown throughout the ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'' franchise to be staffed by people who are incompetent, corrupt, as mentally unhinged as the inmates, or both.any combination thereof. Of course, the warden's passwords are his birthday going backwards, all of the cells can be unlocked by one switch, and criminals like Bane and Scarecrow are locked up with their costumes and weapons.
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