History WesternAnimation / TheThiefAndTheCobbler

7th May '18 9:43:07 AM fruitstripegum
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* DeadpanSnarker: The thief's inner monologue, as provided by Creator/JonathanWinters for the Calvert and Miramax cuts. Tends to provoke a polarizing response, with some finding it obnoxious and distracting, while others think it (along with the animation) is the only thing that makes those cuts watchable.



* DeadpanSnarker: The thief's inner monologue, as provided by Creator/JonathanWinters for the Calvert and Miramax cuts. Tends to provoke a polarizing response, with some finding it obnoxious and distracting, while others think it (along with the animation) is the only thing that makes those cuts watchable.
9th Apr '18 7:54:28 PM smasll_lordvoice
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* BigBadassRig: The One-Eye's war machine is a ''massive'' one, so big we never get to see all of it at once, and is [[VisualEffectsOfAwesome jaw-droppingly well-animated]] to boot.



* ConspicuousCG: Subverted. There are elaborately shaded roses, scenes moving in 3D and way too many details in the climax which all look like they required computer animation - but were all entirely drawn by hand.

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* ConspicuousCG: Subverted. There are elaborately shaded roses, scenes moving in 3D and way too many details in the climax which all look like they required computer animation - but were all [[AwesomeArt entirely drawn drawn]] [[VisualEffectsOfAwesome by hand.]]



* EvilWearsBlack: Zigzag

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* EvilWearsBlack: ZigzagZigzag and One-Eye.
21st Feb '18 10:55:58 AM Pren
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** Apparently the only piece of rough animation Gilcrist could find for Yum-Yum in the tub was one that also features her twin sister who was removed early on. Luckily, since she doesn't actually do anything besides sit in her own tub in the background it can easily come off as a mirror.
5th Feb '18 1:40:10 PM Kurbzter
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** "The BALLS are GONE! My KINGDOM will COME to destruction AND '''DEATH'''!"
*** And of course, there's [=Zigzag=], played by Creator/VincentPrice in his usual delicious hamminess ("FAT! FAAAAT! [[FeedMe FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!]]")

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** "The BALLS King Nod freaking out has a few examples.
--> '''King Nod''': AAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!! The BAAAAAAAAALLS
are GONE! GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONE!!! My KINGDOM will COME to destruction AND '''DEATH'''!"
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'''DEEEEATH'''!!!
** Also, later in the film...
--> '''King Nod (In response to seeing Princess YumYum in the battlefield)''': MY DAUGHTEEEER!!! MY DAUGHTER, OH MY '''GOD'''!!! MY CHILD! HELP ME!!! HELP ME TO HELP '''HER'''!!!
**
And of course, there's [=Zigzag=], played by Creator/VincentPrice in his usual delicious hamminess ("FAT! FAAAAT! [[FeedMe FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!]]")
30th Jan '18 10:58:11 AM Psi001
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* ActuallyPrettyFunny: An unintentional one from the Creator/MiramaxFilms version. After hearing [[LullDestruction non-stop narration from Tack The Cobbler]], we get this line from him after Princess Yum Yum leaves the room with her Grandmother: ''"Why don't I ever talk when it matters?"''

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* ActuallyPrettyFunny: ActuallyPrettyFunny:
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An unintentional one from the Creator/MiramaxFilms version. After hearing [[LullDestruction non-stop narration from Tack The Cobbler]], we get this line from him after Princess Yum Yum leaves the room with her Grandmother: ''"Why don't I ever talk when it matters?"''matters?"''
** The Miramax edit also adds astonished crowd gasps and laughs as Zigzag tries to appeal to Mighty One Eye, making it sound like his vicious army is genuinely impressed by his trickery.
23rd Dec '17 3:38:51 PM SorPepita
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''The Thief and the Cobbler'' (also ''The Princess and the Cobbler'', or ''Arabian Knight'', depending on which version you're watching) is a legendary attempt by master animator Creator/RichardWilliams to create the greatest animated feature ever. At more than 30 years, it holds the record for the longest production time for a motion picture - much of it spent in DevelopmentHell. Williams envisioned the film as his personal masterpiece (in the traditional sense, as in "the piece you create when you've mastered your medium") and wanted to fill the entire movie with every technique and trick he had learned from the top animators of UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation, effectively putting on display the ultimate capabilities of hand-drawn animation. It is considered a lost treasure of [[WesternAnimation animation]], with many critics calling it the [[MissingEpisode greatest unfinished film of all time]]).

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''The Thief and the Cobbler'' (also ''The Princess and the Cobbler'', or ''Arabian Knight'', depending on which version you're watching) is a legendary attempt by master animator Creator/RichardWilliams to create the greatest animated feature ever. At more than 30 years, it holds the record for the longest production time for a motion picture - much of it spent in DevelopmentHell. Williams envisioned the film as his personal masterpiece (in the traditional sense, as in "the piece you create when you've mastered your medium") and wanted to fill the entire movie with every technique and trick he had learned from the top animators of UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation, effectively putting on display the ultimate capabilities of hand-drawn animation. It is considered a lost treasure of [[WesternAnimation animation]], with many critics calling it the [[MissingEpisode greatest unfinished film of all time]]).
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15th Dec '17 6:13:30 PM Anddrix
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* DeadpanSnarker: The thief's inner monologue, as provided by Creator/JonathanWinters for the Calvert and Miramax cuts. Tends to provoke a LoveItOrHateIt response, with some finding it obnoxious and distracting, while others think it (along with the animation) is the only thing that makes those cuts watchable.

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* DeadpanSnarker: The thief's inner monologue, as provided by Creator/JonathanWinters for the Calvert and Miramax cuts. Tends to provoke a LoveItOrHateIt polarizing response, with some finding it obnoxious and distracting, while others think it (along with the animation) is the only thing that makes those cuts watchable.
12th Dec '17 4:05:22 AM philipnova798
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* OffModel: Happens pretty often, as one could expect from an animated film in production for ''decades'' and, in the case of the Calvert version, by several different animation studios around the world[[note]]The animation itself was largely handled by members of Sulivan-Bluth Studios in Ireland, Kroyer Films in America and Premier Films in the UK. With Creator/WangFilmProductions in Taiwan handing the bulk of the ink and paint, which in turn went to their Thailand-based studio[[/note]]. It doesn't help that Calvert outsourced the remaining animation work to cheaper studios, creating a drastic difference in quality between the original Williams-animated scenes and his scenes.

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* OffModel: Happens pretty often, as one could expect from an animated film in production for ''decades'' and, in the case of the Calvert version, by several different animation studios around the world[[note]]The animation itself was largely handled by members of Sulivan-Bluth Studios in Ireland, Kroyer Films in America and Premier Films in the UK. With Creator/WangFilmProductions in Taiwan handing the bulk of the ink and paint, which in turn went to their Thailand-based studio[[/note]].studio, Creator/VargaStudio in Hungary and Creator/RoughDraftStudios' California and South Korean studios[[/note]]. It doesn't help that Calvert outsourced the remaining animation work to cheaper studios, creating a drastic difference in quality between the original Williams-animated scenes and his scenes.
3rd Dec '17 3:39:46 AM SorPepita
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[[caption-width-right:250:[[OpeningNarration "It is written among the limitless constellations of the celestial heavens...]][[MindScrew ...that the world which we see is an outward and visible dream of an inward and invisible reality..."]]]]

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[[caption-width-right:250:[[OpeningNarration "It is written among the limitless constellations of the celestial heavens...]][[MindScrew ...]] [[MindScrew ... that the world which we see is an outward and visible dream of an inward and invisible reality..."]]]]



Here's the plot: In a [[CityOfGold "golden city"]] set in a pseudo-Arabian land (although, in one of the versions, they decided to [[SmallReferencePools put it in Baghdad]],) there are [[PlotCoupon three golden balls]] atop "the highest minaret." Prophecy has it that if the balls are stolen, the city would fall, unless it was saved by the [[SimplemindedWisdom simplest of souls]]. The balls are stolen by a sneaky, nameless thief, just as a vicious race of one-eyed men (simply known as the One-Eyes) are about to attack the city. The King of the city sends his daughter, Princess [=YumYum=], out to find a way to stop the encroaching army, and she takes along with her the hero of our story, a meek cobbler named Tack (who has begun to fall in love with the Princess and she with him) as a guide. They are followed along the way by the Thief, who's only in it for the loot.

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Here's the plot: In a [[CityOfGold "golden city"]] set in a pseudo-Arabian land (although, in one of the versions, they decided to [[SmallReferencePools put it in Baghdad]],) Baghdad]]), there are [[PlotCoupon three golden balls]] atop "the highest minaret." Prophecy has it that if the balls are stolen, the city would fall, unless it was saved by the [[SimplemindedWisdom simplest of souls]]. The balls are stolen by a sneaky, nameless thief, just as a vicious race of one-eyed men (simply known as the One-Eyes) are about to attack the city. The King of the city sends his daughter, Princess [=YumYum=], out to find a way to stop the encroaching army, and she takes along with her the hero of our story, a meek cobbler named Tack (who has begun to fall in love with the Princess and she with him) as a guide. They are followed along the way by the Thief, who's only in it for the loot.
26th Nov '17 10:51:49 AM nombretomado
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''The Thief and the Cobbler'' (also ''The Princess and the Cobbler'', or ''Arabian Knight'', depending on which version you're watching) is a legendary attempt by master animator Creator/RichardWilliams to create the greatest animated feature ever. At more than 30 years, it holds the record for the longest production time for a motion picture - much of it spent in DevelopmentHell. Williams envisioned the film as his personal masterpiece (in the traditional sense, as in "the piece you create when you've mastered your medium") and wanted to fill the entire movie with every technique and trick he had learned from the top animators of TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation, effectively putting on display the ultimate capabilities of hand-drawn animation. It is considered a lost treasure of [[WesternAnimation animation]], with many critics calling it the [[MissingEpisode greatest unfinished film of all time]]).

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''The Thief and the Cobbler'' (also ''The Princess and the Cobbler'', or ''Arabian Knight'', depending on which version you're watching) is a legendary attempt by master animator Creator/RichardWilliams to create the greatest animated feature ever. At more than 30 years, it holds the record for the longest production time for a motion picture - much of it spent in DevelopmentHell. Williams envisioned the film as his personal masterpiece (in the traditional sense, as in "the piece you create when you've mastered your medium") and wanted to fill the entire movie with every technique and trick he had learned from the top animators of TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation, UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation, effectively putting on display the ultimate capabilities of hand-drawn animation. It is considered a lost treasure of [[WesternAnimation animation]], with many critics calling it the [[MissingEpisode greatest unfinished film of all time]]).



* StarringSpecialEffects: The movie is very light on story and really only exists so Creator/RichardWilliams can show off every single trick and technique he learned from his [[TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation golden-age]] mentors. There are scenes that Williams deliberately requested go on for longer than they should if only to show off the animation.

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* StarringSpecialEffects: The movie is very light on story and really only exists so Creator/RichardWilliams can show off every single trick and technique he learned from his [[TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation [[UsefulNotes/TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation golden-age]] mentors. There are scenes that Williams deliberately requested go on for longer than they should if only to show off the animation.
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