History WesternAnimation / TheThiefAndTheCobbler

23rd May '17 10:21:04 AM WakefulPigeon
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* BigBadDuumvirate: One-Eye and Zigzag

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* BigBadDuumvirate: One-Eye and ZigzagZigzag, though One-Eye is more dangerous in terms of strength and plans, even ordering Zigzag to ride at the front of the war machine.
25th Mar '17 7:47:41 AM erforce
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--> -- '''Creator/RichardWilliams''', before losing rights to his film

'''''The Thief and the Cobbler''''' (also ''The Princess and the Cobbler'', or ''Arabian Knight'', depending on which version you're watching) is a legendary attempt by master animator Creator/RichardWilliams to create the greatest animated feature ever. At more than 30 years, it holds the record for the longest production time for a motion picture - much of it spent in DevelopmentHell. Williams envisioned the film as his personal masterpiece (in the traditional sense, as in "the piece you create when you've mastered your medium") and wanted to fill the entire movie with every technique and trick he had learned from the top animators of TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation, effectively putting on display the ultimate capabilities of hand-drawn animation. It is considered a lost treasure of [[WesternAnimation animation]], with many critics calling it the [[MissingEpisode greatest unfinished film of all time]]).

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--> -- -->-- '''Creator/RichardWilliams''', before losing rights to his film

'''''The ''The Thief and the Cobbler''''' Cobbler'' (also ''The Princess and the Cobbler'', or ''Arabian Knight'', depending on which version you're watching) is a legendary attempt by master animator Creator/RichardWilliams to create the greatest animated feature ever. At more than 30 years, it holds the record for the longest production time for a motion picture - much of it spent in DevelopmentHell. Williams envisioned the film as his personal masterpiece (in the traditional sense, as in "the piece you create when you've mastered your medium") and wanted to fill the entire movie with every technique and trick he had learned from the top animators of TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation, effectively putting on display the ultimate capabilities of hand-drawn animation. It is considered a lost treasure of [[WesternAnimation animation]], with many critics calling it the [[MissingEpisode greatest unfinished film of all time]]).



* InkSuitActor: After VincentPrice was cast as Zigzag's voice, his design was modified to resemble Price. This is more obvious when Williams shows his caricature of Price in Literature/TheAnimatorsSurvivalKit -- it resembles Zigzag quite a lot!

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* InkSuitActor: After VincentPrice Creator/VincentPrice was cast as Zigzag's voice, his design was modified to resemble Price. This is more obvious when Williams shows his caricature of Price in Literature/TheAnimatorsSurvivalKit -- it resembles Zigzag quite a lot!



*** And of course, there's [=Zigzag=], played by Vincent Price in his usual delicious hamminess ("FAT! FAAAAT! [[FeedMe FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!]]")

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*** And of course, there's [=Zigzag=], played by Vincent Price Creator/VincentPrice in his usual delicious hamminess ("FAT! FAAAAT! [[FeedMe FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!]]")



* {{Redubbing}}: The Allied Filmmakers and Miramax editions redubbed the main British voices with American ones, except for Vincent Price.

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* {{Redubbing}}: The Allied Filmmakers and Miramax editions redubbed the main British voices with American ones, except for Vincent Price.Creator/VincentPrice.
25th Mar '17 7:40:11 AM CaptainTedium
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* ToiletHumour: At one point, there is a scene where the Thief appears to be urinating on a tree. He turns around to reveal that he's actually squeezing water out of his rags.
11th Dec '16 5:13:17 PM missmoon
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The movie began as a pet project which Williams and a few colleagues worked on in between profession gigs at his studio in London and was in and out of various stages of production for many years. Investors came and went, initially awed by the stunning, god-tier animation that had been completed thus far, but turned off by Williams' obsessive attention which it required, often resulting in missed deadlines and overshot budgets. Williams, meanwhile, hired and fired animators at will, eventually ending up with a solid team which included Disney legend Creator/ArtBabbitt and a young Creator/EricGoldberg, both of whom would follow him to his directoral debut, ''WesternAnimation/RaggedyAnnAndAndyAMusicalAdventure'', which Williams took on to help fund ''Thief''. After winning an Oscar for ''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit'' in 1989, a studio offered Williams the money necessary to finally complete ''Thief'', under the proviso that it be ready [[TemptingFate by a specific date under the budged provided]].

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The movie began as a pet project which Williams and a few colleagues worked on in between profession gigs at his studio in London and was in and out of various stages of production for many years. Investors came and went, initially awed by the stunning, god-tier animation that had been completed thus far, but turned off by Williams' obsessive attention which it required, often resulting in missed deadlines and overshot budgets. Williams, meanwhile, hired and fired animators at will, eventually ending up with a solid team which included Disney legend Creator/ArtBabbitt and a young Creator/EricGoldberg, both of whom would follow him to his directoral directorial debut, ''WesternAnimation/RaggedyAnnAndAndyAMusicalAdventure'', which Williams took on to help fund ''Thief''. After winning an Oscar for ''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit'' in 1989, a studio offered Williams the money necessary to finally complete ''Thief'', under the proviso that it be ready [[TemptingFate by a specific date under the budged provided]].



Now satisfied with ''Thieft'', Williams has since moved on to another attempt at a personal masterpiece, an anthology film with the working title [[LampshadeHanging "I Hope I Live To Finish This"]], the first part of which, ''Prologue'', debuted in 2015.

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Now satisfied with ''Thieft'', ''Thief'', Williams has since moved on to another attempt at a personal masterpiece, an anthology film with the working title [[LampshadeHanging "I Hope I Live To Finish This"]], the first part of which, ''Prologue'', debuted in 2015.



** [[spoiler: The entire one-eye army is killed by their huge warmachine.]]

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** [[spoiler: The entire one-eye army is killed by their huge warmachine.war machine.]]



* {{Mondegreen}}: The little song from Zigzag's advisors announcing his presence in the original cut is hard to make out, leading to a lot of these.

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* {{Mondegreen}}: The little song from Zigzag's advisors advisers announcing his presence in the original cut is hard to make out, leading to a lot of these.



* ShaggySearchTechnique: While hugging the palace walls while trying to escape, Tack accidently hits a brick that causes the wall to open.

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* ShaggySearchTechnique: While hugging the palace walls while trying to escape, Tack accidently accidentally hits a brick that causes the wall to open.



* UnmovingPlaid: Pretty much any scene with tiled floors. This is due to the style being based on ancient persian miniature paintings, which did not have correct perspective. Averted whenever the animators [[DoingItForTheArt decided to rotate the scene around]].

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* UnmovingPlaid: Pretty much any scene with tiled floors. This is due to the style being based on ancient persian Persian miniature paintings, which did not have correct perspective. Averted whenever the animators [[DoingItForTheArt decided to rotate the scene around]].
6th Dec '16 11:41:39 AM JustTroper
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* ExtraDigits: Zigzag has six fingers on each hand, perhaps to show that he's [[TheChessmaster a master manipulator]].
26th Nov '16 2:27:44 PM NWolfman
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* StarringSpecialEffects: The movie is very light on story and really only exists so Creator/RichardWilliams can show off every single trick and technique he learned from his [[TheGoldenAgeOfAnimation golden-age]] mentors. There are scenes that Williams deliberately requested go on for longer than they should if only to show off the animation.
22nd Nov '16 1:25:20 PM ngh93
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* LullDestruction: The Calvert cut added narration from an older Tack to the film, while the Miramax cut gave him full voice acting and narration from Matthew Broderick. The Miramax cut also added ''many'' more voices, including a constant inner monologue for the Thief (done by Johnathan Winters). In addition, many characters, such as [=YumYum=], have significantly more dialog added. The original intention by Williams was to create several purely physical characters for the animators to have total freedom with, something that Calvert and Miramax apparently decided was a problem because ViewersAreMorons.

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* LullDestruction: The Calvert cut added narration from an older Tack to the film, while the Miramax cut gave him full voice acting and narration from Matthew Broderick. The Miramax cut also added ''many'' more voices, including a constant inner monologue for the Thief (done by Johnathan Jonathan Winters). In addition, many characters, such as [=YumYum=], have significantly more dialog added. The original intention by Williams was to create several purely physical characters for the animators to have total freedom with, something that Calvert and Miramax apparently decided was a problem because ViewersAreMorons.
17th Nov '16 1:03:45 PM Daikun
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* MaybeMagicMaybeMundane: Are the golden balls really prophetic, or were they just stolen by the Thief at a convenient time?
8th Nov '16 6:23:14 AM TonyG
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The movie began as a pet project which Williams and a few colleagues worked on in between profession gigs at his studio in London and was in and out of various stages of production for many years. Investors came and went, initially awed by the stunning, god-tier animation that had been completed thus far, but turned off by Williams' obsessive attention which it required, often resulting in missed deadlines and overshot budgets. Williams, meanwhile, hired and fired animators at will, eventually ending up with a solid team which included Looney Tunes legend Creator/ArtBabbitt and a young Creator/EricGoldberg, both of whom would follow him to his directoral debut, ''WesternAnimation/RaggedyAnnAndAndyAMusicalAdventure'', which Williams took on to help fund ''Thief''. After winning an Oscar for ''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit'' in 1989, a studio offered Williams the money necessary to finally complete ''Thief'', under the proviso that it be ready [[TemptingFate by a specific date under the budged provided]].

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The movie began as a pet project which Williams and a few colleagues worked on in between profession gigs at his studio in London and was in and out of various stages of production for many years. Investors came and went, initially awed by the stunning, god-tier animation that had been completed thus far, but turned off by Williams' obsessive attention which it required, often resulting in missed deadlines and overshot budgets. Williams, meanwhile, hired and fired animators at will, eventually ending up with a solid team which included Looney Tunes Disney legend Creator/ArtBabbitt and a young Creator/EricGoldberg, both of whom would follow him to his directoral debut, ''WesternAnimation/RaggedyAnnAndAndyAMusicalAdventure'', which Williams took on to help fund ''Thief''. After winning an Oscar for ''Film/WhoFramedRogerRabbit'' in 1989, a studio offered Williams the money necessary to finally complete ''Thief'', under the proviso that it be ready [[TemptingFate by a specific date under the budged provided]].
8th Nov '16 6:16:27 AM Gouken20xx
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* EurekaMoment: In the Miramax and Allied Filmakers versions. "Attack...attack...a tack. A TACK!"

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* EurekaMoment: In the Miramax and Allied Filmakers versions. "Attack...attack...a tack. A TACK!"TACK!" which segues into...
* ExactWords: Throughout the film, 'Attack' is used liberally, until, in some versions, Tack replaces one T with a space, figuring out how to defeat the War Machine.


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* [[RampageFromANail Rampage From A Tack]]: A role reversal of this trope, in that everything falls apart because the tack is put IN the device.
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