History WesternAnimation / ChallengeOfTheGobots

28th Feb '16 11:04:33 AM Prfnoff
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'''''Challenge of the [=GoBots=]''''' dealt with two opposing forces of [[TransformingMecha transforming robots]] from the planet Gobotron: the heroic Guardians and the evil Renegades. The Guardians were led by Leader-1; others included Turbo and Scooter. The Renegades were led by Cy-Kill, with Crasher and Cop-Tur among their ranks.

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'''''Challenge ''Challenge of the [=GoBots=]''''' [=GoBots=]'' dealt with two opposing forces of [[TransformingMecha transforming robots]] from the planet Gobotron: the heroic Guardians and the evil Renegades. The Guardians were led by Leader-1; others included Turbo and Scooter. The Renegades were led by Cy-Kill, with Crasher and Cop-Tur among their ranks.
4th Feb '16 9:11:12 PM PatPayne
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* AsLongAsItSoundsForeign: Done [[ForTheLulz for fun.]] Anya Turgonova once curses ''"Ish Kabibble!"'' Certainly none of the kids watching would have caught that Ish Kabibble was a famous Vaudeville comedian.

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* AsLongAsItSoundsForeign: Done [[ForTheLulz for fun.]] Anya Turgonova once curses ''"Ish Kabibble!"'' Certainly none of the kids watching would have caught that Ish Kabibble was a famous Vaudeville comedian. Or [[NamesTheSame the '40s coronet player for Kay Keyser's big band who went by the same stage name]]
13th Dec '15 8:49:52 AM WM-R
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** It's revealed that when Cy-Kill abandoned the Guardians, Fi-Tor went with him for no other reason than his loyalty.
** Cy-Kill reciprocates this loyalty, and while he was prepared to kill Fi-Tor in order to preserve the Renegades' secrets (Fi-Tor having access to a lot of them due to being TheDragon), he was extremely reluctant to do so.

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** It's revealed He also assures the Guardians that when Cy-Kill abandoned would see him dead before he'd allow the Guardians, Guardians to carry out a proper interrogation, and Fi-Tor went is totally fine with him for no other reason than his loyalty.
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** Cy-Kill reciprocates this loyalty, and while is absolutely certain Fi-Tor won't talk when he was prepared to is captured. Crasher suggests making sure (implying that they should kill Fi-Tor in order to preserve themselves), and a furious Cy-Kill declares that would be a last resort. He dispatches his troops on a rescue mission, taking the Renegades' secrets (Fi-Tor having access time to warn both CopTur and Crasher that he wants Fi-Tor back in one piece. When he realises he has no choice but to destroy the Guardian ship (and Fi-Tor with it), he takes the time to whisper a goodbye just before an alternative idea comes to him. He pretty much goes to a lot of them due trouble to being TheDragon), he was extremely reluctant to do so.save Fi-Tor, a huge contrast with other villains from the 80s like Mumm-Ra, Megatron or Cobra Commander.
13th Dec '15 8:36:30 AM WM-R
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* FaceDeathWithDignity: When Fi-Tor is captured in "Fi-Tor to the Finish", he sabotages the ship he's in. When the panicked Guardians realise they're all trapped inside, Fi-Tor fearlessly laughs and simply enjoys the fact that he'll at least take the Guardians with him.



* UndyingLoyalty: Fi-Tor towards Cy-Kill. When he's captured by the Guardians, he deliberately damages the ship taking him to interrogation rather than risk even the possibility he might betray Cy-Kill. When he realises he's possibly doomed himself and two of the top Guardians (Leader-1 and Turbo), he laughs at the thought.
** It's revealed that when Cy-Kill abandoned the Guardians, Fi-Tor went with him for no other reason than his loyalty.
** Cy-Kill reciprocates this loyalty, and while he was prepared to kill Fi-Tor in order to preserve the Renegades' secrets (Fi-Tor having access to a lot of them due to being TheDragon), he was extremely reluctant to do so.



* YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters: Fi-Tor is captured, and tries to destroy the ship carrying him to interrogation. The Guardians call him a maniac. He retorts, "You mean patriot!"

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* YourTerroristsAreOurFreedomFighters: Fi-Tor is captured, and tries to destroy the ship carrying him to interrogation. The Guardians call horrified Guardian Turbo tackles him and calls him a maniac. He lunatic. Fi-Tor retorts, "You mean patriot!"
"The word is patriot. wimp!"
13th Dec '15 6:34:11 AM WM-R
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Despite addressing some valid and interesting science fiction tropes (as listed below), the series's biggest handicap, apart from its obvious similarity to the {{Transformers}}, was probably its "toony" character design, as compared to the comic book-realism of the {{Transformers}} art. (This may account for the show's popularity in Europe, where toony character designs in [[SpartakusAndTheSunBeneathTheSea adventure shows]] and [[Franchise/{{Tintin}} comics]] are more common.) In addition, the sheer number of characters who had their own spotlight episodes in the Transformers (generally the newest toys in the line) meant that kids would have a lot of choices for favourite characters, while the Gobots cartoon generally focused on the Guardian and Renegade PowerTrio, with most other characters being more like guest stars who made brief appearances. An example would be the otherwise unremarkable Autobot Tracks, who not only had a couple of episodes that fleshed out his character (a sort of snooty, upper-class kind of guy) but also played an important part in episodes where he wasn't the star (e.g. he helped bring down the Stunticons as part of an infiltration plan).

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Despite addressing some valid and interesting science fiction tropes (as listed below), the series's biggest handicap, apart from its obvious similarity to the {{Transformers}}, was probably its "toony" character design, as compared to the comic book-realism of the {{Transformers}} art. (This may account for the show's popularity in Europe, where toony character designs in [[SpartakusAndTheSunBeneathTheSea adventure shows]] and [[Franchise/{{Tintin}} comics]] are more common.) In addition, the sheer number of characters who had their own spotlight episodes in the Transformers (generally the newest toys in the line) meant that kids would have a lot of choices for favourite characters, while the Gobots cartoon generally focused on the Guardian and Renegade PowerTrio, with most other characters being more like guest stars who made brief appearances. An example would be the otherwise unremarkable Autobot Tracks, who not only had a couple of episodes that fleshed out his character (a sort of snooty, upper-class kind of guy) but also played an important part in episodes where he wasn't the star (e.g. he helped bring down the Stunticons as part of an infiltration plan).



But more than this, it was the fact that virtually every Transformers toy released had a bio and techspecs that described the character, their abilities and personalities that pushed the Transformers brand over the Gobots (whose toys generally had no bio other than their name and allegiance). Even the toys of characters who made no appearances in the cartoon (e.g. the Deluxe Insecticons Barrage, Chop Shop and Venom, or the Wreckers Whirl and Roadbuster) gained a lot of personality from these bios, which were sometimes the only characterization they received.



* FlyingBrick: All [=GoBots=] can fly, and are superhumanly strong giant robots.

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* FlyingBrick: All [=GoBots=] can fly, and are superhumanly strong giant robots. They are also all armed with internal weapons, including eye beams.



** Cy-Kill himself would wind up on the TransTech homeworld of Axiom Nexus, and quickly set about trying to take advantage of it. He successfully recruits several Transformers into his Renegades (coincidentally toys that never made an appearance on the cartoon) before fleeing back to his own universe with his new troops in tow.



* UnresolvedSexualTension: Matt Hunter and Anya Turgonova.

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* UnresolvedSexualTension: Matt Hunter and Anya Turgonova. They do kiss in the FiveEpisodePilot, though.
13th Dec '15 6:21:42 AM WM-R
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Despite addressing some valid and interesting science fiction tropes (as listed below), the series's biggest handicap, apart from its obvious similarity to the {{Transformers}}, was probably its "toony" character design, as compared to the comic book-realism of the {{Transformers}} art. (This may account for the show's popularity in Europe, where toony character designs in [[SpartakusAndTheSunBeneathTheSea adventure shows]] and [[Franchise/{{Tintin}} comics]] are more common.)

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Despite addressing some valid and interesting science fiction tropes (as listed below), the series's biggest handicap, apart from its obvious similarity to the {{Transformers}}, was probably its "toony" character design, as compared to the comic book-realism of the {{Transformers}} art. (This may account for the show's popularity in Europe, where toony character designs in [[SpartakusAndTheSunBeneathTheSea adventure shows]] and [[Franchise/{{Tintin}} comics]] are more common.)
) In addition, the sheer number of characters who had their own spotlight episodes in the Transformers (generally the newest toys in the line) meant that kids would have a lot of choices for favourite characters, while the Gobots cartoon generally focused on the Guardian and Renegade PowerTrio, with most other characters being more like guest stars who made brief appearances. An example would be the otherwise unremarkable Autobot Tracks, who not only had a couple of episodes that fleshed out his character (a sort of snooty, upper-class kind of guy) but also played an important part in episodes where he wasn't the star (e.g. he helped bring down the Stunticons as part of an infiltration plan).

The fact that the Transformers toys also had numerous accessories and clear delineations between the two factions also pushed the Transformers over the Gobots. For example, as mentioned above, the Gobots wore no faction symbols, nor was there a clear theme between factions the way the original 1984 Decepticons were generally war machines (Megatron the gun, Starscream the jet) or designed for infiltration (Soundwave the tape deck, Reflector the camera) while the Autobots were generally automobiles.



In 2015, Cy-Kill began hosting ''Renegade Rhetoric'', a Facebook feature endorsed by Hasbro. The in-story explanation being the Cy-Kill from the cartoon wound up in the dimensional hub-world of Axiom Nexus and was gathering power to return to Gobotron in triumph. The feature is decidedly tongue-in-cheek, as Cy-Kill is more than happy to take potshots at the Transformers universe. He argues, for example, that ''Renegades'' is a lot more ambiguous and potentially trustworthy than naming your group ''Decepticons''.



** That said, the Astro-Beam's effects would sometime wear off at the worst possible time, such as the time a Guardian summoned was trying to hold a door shut against attacking intruders. When he realised the Astro-Beam was wearing off, he only had time to apologise before he was sent back to Gobotron and the invaders broke through.



** Unlike Megatron or Cobra Commander, Cy-Kill is at least hesitant to abandon his troops. Even among the rank-and-file Renegades there is rather less selfish backstabbing going on than among their contemporaries the Decepticons or Cobra (both of which encourage a KlingonPromotion method of advancement that really doesn't encourage teamwork).



* EvilGenius: Doctor Go
* EvilLaugh: Crasher, maniacal and joyous. Ha ha ha HAAAAAAA ha hah hah!

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* EvilGenius: Doctor Go
Go. TheQuisling Doctor Braxis as well.
* EvilLaugh: Cy-Kill has one as part of his EvilOverlord repertoire. The most famous, however is easily Crasher, maniacal and joyous. Ha ha ha HAAAAAAA ha hah hah!
13th Dec '15 1:57:31 AM WM-R
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* BenevolentBoss: Leader 1 and (by EvilOverlord standards) Cy-Kill. While he could be abusive (in the pilot episodes he blasted Fi-tor for referring to the Renegades defending their fortress as "my forces"), compared to his contemporaries Megatron or Cobra Commander Cy-Kill complimented his soldiers on a job well done and freely acknowledged being glad to see missing comrades again ("Welcome back, Crasher. I missed your charming laugh.")



* CombiningMecha: The Puzzlers

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** That said, the actual second in command of the Renegades was Fi-tor.
* CombiningMecha: The PuzzlersPuzzlers. Also Courageous, which was formed from a starship and four suits of PoweredArmor.


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* TheJuggernaut: Zod is usually treated as this. In the FiveEpisodePilot, Scooter opts to get the Command Center to flee rather than face Zod, declaring, "Zod'll tear us apart!"


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* WorthyOpponent: While he rarely admitted it, Cy-Kill acknowledged and even respected Leader-1's leadership and combat skills.
2nd Nov '15 3:18:47 PM Josef5678
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* IronCurtain: The writers could never seem to decide whether Anya Turgonova was from China or the U.S.S.R., alternately mentioning "Siberia" and "The People's Republic." Since it was the [[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture Twenty Minutes Into the]] [[TheGreatPoliticsMessup Cold War future,]] perhaps they'd merged. Despite the Russian-sounding name and accent, she certainly ''looks'' Asian. (Given that most of Russia is in Asia, an Asian-looking Russian is not unrealistic.)

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* IronCurtain: UsefulNotes/IronCurtain: The writers could never seem to decide whether Anya Turgonova was from China or the U.S.S.R., alternately mentioning "Siberia" and "The People's Republic." Since it was the [[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture Twenty Minutes Into the]] [[TheGreatPoliticsMessup Cold War future,]] perhaps they'd merged. Despite the Russian-sounding name and accent, she certainly ''looks'' Asian. (Given that most of Russia is in Asia, an Asian-looking Russian is not unrealistic.)
8th Jul '15 1:57:45 PM FordPrefect
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There are at least two other {{Alternate Continuit|y}}ies for the franchise, (apart from the modern Transformers version). A British [[NewspaperComics comic strip]] called ''Robo Machines'' appeared in the periodical ''Eagle'' from November of '84 to July of '85, featuring a radically different storyline ([[{{Wikipedia}} the other wiki]] has information [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robo_Machines_(comic) here.)]] And in France, where the American show had been quite popular, the Japanese ''MachineRobo'' series was used as a second season, despite the drastic ArtShift between the series.

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There are at least two other {{Alternate Continuit|y}}ies for the franchise, franchise (apart from the modern Transformers version). A British [[NewspaperComics comic strip]] called ''Robo Machines'' appeared in the periodical ''Eagle'' from November of '84 to July of '85, featuring a radically different storyline ([[{{Wikipedia}} the other wiki]] has information [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robo_Machines_(comic) here.)]] And in France, where the American show had been quite popular, the Japanese ''MachineRobo'' series was used as a second season, despite the drastic ArtShift between the series.
16th May '15 10:32:19 PM nombretomado
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