History WesternAnimation / Brave

24th Jun '16 10:01:32 AM hullflyer
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** Then Merida does it equally well later on, to stop all-out ''war''.
24th Jun '16 8:30:48 AM hullflyer
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** ScrewDestiny, too. "Changing one's fate" is not as simple as finding a loophole or asking for a spell; in real life, this sort of thing is complicated and there are ''serious'' consequences for doing it incorrectly. Merida's true journey will be centered '''not''' just on flipping the bird to rules and tradition and getting away with it solely because she's TheProtagonist, but on seeing that [[ComingOfAgeStory forging one's destiny]] [[CharacterDevelopment is more complex than one thinks]] and that you must face both the pros and the contras of such decisions.

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** ScrewDestiny, too. "Changing one's fate" is not as simple as finding a loophole or asking for a spell; in real life, this sort of thing is complicated and there are ''serious'' consequences for doing it incorrectly. Merida's true journey will be centered '''not''' just on flipping the bird to rules and tradition and getting away with it solely because she's TheProtagonist, but on seeing that [[ComingOfAgeStory forging one's destiny]] [[CharacterDevelopment is more complex than one thinks]] and that you must face both the pros and the contras cons of such decisions.
23rd Jun '16 9:25:14 PM sparkles38
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** Merida drugging her Mom.

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** Merida drugging her Mom.Mom to make her change her mind.
23rd Jun '16 9:20:21 PM sparkles38
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** Merida drugging her Mom.
18th Jun '16 11:33:56 PM ImpudentInfidel
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%%* MisplacedWildlife* MisplacedWildlife: There were no bears in medieval Scotland.
18th Jun '16 11:31:27 PM ImpudentInfidel
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** The tartan (15th-16th century), kilt (18th century)[[note]]Scottish clans have been wearing kilts in the style as seen in the movie since the 16th century. Wearing the kilt was outlawed in the mid 18th century after some rebellions, and was re-legalised near the end of that century, just in time for it to be romanticised by Sir Walter Scott[[/note]] and woad warpaint (Iron Age); forks and tea (didn't make landfall in Britain till mid-17th century); Highland games (19th century, and Canadian); bagpipes (14th century); references to recently fighting both the Romans (1st-5th century), and the Vikings (8th-11th century); the carnyx (Iron Age) and bears (extinct in Scotland since prehistoric times) ''at the same time''.

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** The tartan (15th-16th century), kilt (18th century)[[note]]Scottish clans have been wearing kilts in the style as seen in the movie since the 16th century. Wearing the kilt was outlawed in the mid 18th century after some rebellions, and was re-legalised near the end of that century, just in time for it to be romanticised by Sir Walter Scott[[/note]] and woad warpaint (Iron Age); forks and tea (didn't make landfall in Britain till mid-17th century); Highland games (19th century, and Canadian); bagpipes (14th century); references to recently fighting both the Romans (1st-5th century), and the Vikings (8th-11th century); the carnyx (Iron Age) and bears (extinct in Scotland since prehistoric times) the 9th-10th century at the latest) ''at the same time''.
9th Jun '16 3:14:03 PM JJHIL325
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* BothSidesHaveAPoint: One of the main points of the movie; Queen Elinor insists that having Merida do an ArrangedMarriage with one of the clan lords' sons is necessary for the kingdom's growth and stability. And while a bit unreasonable, she does have a point, especially when Merida's LoopholeAbuse nearly launches the clans into war. At the same time, Merida has ''every single right'' to be pissed off that none of this was given with her consent, she's still fairly young to even consider marriage at that time in her life, and she still wants a bit of freedom from society's expectations of her. [[spoiler: A key factor in their reconciliation and freeing Elinor from the curse is both of them realizing that the other has very legitimate points about their views on the matter, and it's ultimately the diplomacy skills that Merida was taught and the fighting skills that Elinor gained in her bear form that pacifies the clan lords and defeats Mor'du for good]].

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* BothSidesHaveAPoint: One of the main points of the movie; Queen Elinor insists that having Merida do an ArrangedMarriage with one of the clan lords' sons is necessary for the kingdom's growth and stability. And while a bit unreasonable, she does have a point, especially when Merida's LoopholeAbuse nearly launches the clans into war. She also points out that sometimes [[PerfectlyArrangedMarriage it DOES go pretty well and can become a loving relationship (like Elinor and Fergus')]] At the same time, Merida has ''every single right'' to be pissed off that none of this was given with her consent, she's still fairly young to even consider marriage at that time in her life, and she still wants a bit of freedom from society's expectations of her. Added to the fact that Merida is downright ''terrified'' of the idea, it's hard to blame her for trying to get out of it. [[spoiler: A key factor in their reconciliation and freeing Elinor from the curse is both of them realizing that the other has very legitimate points about their views on both the matter, matter and it's ultimately the their ways of solving conflicts. The diplomacy skills that Merida was taught and the fighting skills that by Elinor gained in during the princess lessons allows her bear form that pacifies to pacify the clan lords and defeats restore peace, while the fighting and survival skills Merida taught Elinor in bear form allows her to defeat Mor'du for good]].good. Furthermore, Elinor allows Merida to break tradition by suggesting that the first-borns of the clans should be allowed to choose to marry whoever they want when they're ready for it, something which the clan lords consent to.]].
9th May '16 10:15:51 PM MadCat221
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** Though long since over it by the time the main length of the movie occurred, Queen Elinor was probably quite distraught over her husband suffering loss of limb at the hands of Mor'du.
3rd May '16 3:17:35 PM JJHIL325
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* BothSidesHaveAPoint: One of the main points of the movie; Queen Elinor insists that having Merida do an ArrangedMarriage with one of the clan lords is necessary for the kingdom's growth and stability. And while a bit unreasonable, she does have a point, especially when Merida's LoopholeAbuse nearly launches the clans into war. At the same time, Merida has ''every single right'' to be pissed off that none of this was given with her consent, and that she's still a young girl still wanting a bit of freedom from society's expectations of her. [[spoiler: A key factor in their reconciliation and freeing Elinor from the curse is both of them realizing that the other has very legitimate points about their views on the matter, and it's ultimately the diplomacy skills that Merida was taught and the fighting skills that Elinor gained in her bear form that pacifies the clan lords and defeats Mor'du for good]].

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* BothSidesHaveAPoint: One of the main points of the movie; Queen Elinor insists that having Merida do an ArrangedMarriage with one of the clan lords lords' sons is necessary for the kingdom's growth and stability. And while a bit unreasonable, she does have a point, especially when Merida's LoopholeAbuse nearly launches the clans into war. At the same time, Merida has ''every single right'' to be pissed off that none of this was given with her consent, and that she's still a fairly young girl to even consider marriage at that time in her life, and she still wanting wants a bit of freedom from society's expectations of her. [[spoiler: A key factor in their reconciliation and freeing Elinor from the curse is both of them realizing that the other has very legitimate points about their views on the matter, and it's ultimately the diplomacy skills that Merida was taught and the fighting skills that Elinor gained in her bear form that pacifies the clan lords and defeats Mor'du for good]].
3rd May '16 3:15:06 PM JJHIL325
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* BothSidesHaveAPoint: One of the main points of the movie; Queen Elinor insists that having Merida do an ArrangedMarriage with one of the clan lords is necessary for the kingdom's growth and stability. And while a bit unreasonable, she does have a point, especially when Merida's LoopholeAbuse nearly launches the clans into war. At the same time, Merida has ''every single right'' to be pissed off that none of this was given with her consent, and that she's still a young girl still wanting a bit of freedom from society's expectations of her. [[spoiler: A key factor in their reconciliation and freeing Elinor from the curse is both of them realizing that the other has very legitimate points about their views on the matter, and it's ultimately the diplomacy skills that Merida was taught and the fighting skills that Elinor gained in her bear form that pacifies the clan lords and defeats Mor'du for good]].
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