History WesternAnimation / BatmanMaskOfThePhantasm

18th Jul '16 7:55:40 AM HighCrate
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'''Alfred''': I diapered your bottom, I bloody well ''ought'' to... '''Sir!'''\\

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'''Alfred''': I diapered your bottom, I bloody well ''ought'' to... '''Sir!'''\\''Sir!''\\
18th Jul '16 1:48:20 AM TitoMosquito
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* AskAStupidQuestion: Batman was rather defensive when Alfred asked if he intends to get back together with Andrea once he's finished his case.
--> '''Batman''': You think you know everything about me, don't you?\\
'''Alfred''': I diapered your bottom, I bloody well ''ought'' to... '''Sir!'''\\
'''Batman''': ''(gets in the Batmobile)'' [[LameComeback Well, you're wrong!]] ''(drives away)''


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* CallForward: In a flashback where Bruce and Andrea visit the Gotham World's Fair, he took notice of a display of a futuristic car resembling the Batmobile.
8th Jul '16 3:49:24 AM foxley
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* DeadManHonking: Happens when the Phantasm killed one of the mafiosi inside his own car.
8th Jul '16 12:20:34 AM PaulA
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%%* FlyAtTheCameraEnding: In this case, actually a Swing At The Camera Ending.

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%%* * FlyAtTheCameraEnding: In this case, actually a Swing At The Camera Ending.Ending, with Batman swinging towards the screen and then a little bit to the up and left (so technically its last shot is of Batman's armpit).



%%* NewOldFlame: Andrea Beaumont.

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%%* * NewOldFlame: Andrea Beaumont.Beaumont is introduced as the one-time love of Bruce's life who has never been mentioned before. The movie does at least go to trouble of showing the original relationship in flashback.



%%* OnlyAModel: The model city in the World of Tomorrow exhibit.



%%* RevengeBeforeReason: [[spoiler: And she admits it, too.]]

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%%* * RevengeBeforeReason: [[spoiler: And The Phantasm's vendetta has become all-consuming, to the point that [[spoiler:Andrea keeps on with it even when she admits it, too.]]knows it will cost her any chance of a happy-ever-after with Bruce]]. "I'm not saying it's right or even sane, but it's all I have left."



%%* SecondFaceSmoke: Young Sal does this to young Bruce.
%%* ServileSnarker: Alfred as always.
%%* SexyDiscretionShot: A rare one for the DCAU, but this movie got away with many mature themes.

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%%* * SecondFaceSmoke: Young Sal does this to young Bruce.
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Bruce as gesture of dominance in one of the flashbacks.
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ServileSnarker: Alfred as always.
%%* --->'''Alfred:''' What rot, sir! Why, you’re the very model of sanity. Oh by the way, I pressed your tights and put away your exploding gas balls.\\
'''Bruce:''' ''(grinning)'' Thank you, Alfred.
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SexyDiscretionShot: A rare one for Done twice with Bruce Wayne and Andrea Beaumont (the first time in flashback). Both times, the DCAU, but this movie got camera pans away with many mature themes.to a slightly ajar doorway, in which Alfred appears, mutters a quick "Oh my", and moves away. But subverted the first time, as the camera pans to them making out on the grass. The second time however, it is made clear exactly what went on off screen, especially in the scene afterwards, it shows Andrea sitting on the balcony gazing at the sea, wearing nothing but Bruce's shirt. Bruce himself is seen wearing nothing but pants.



%%* StarCrossedLovers: Bruce and Andrea.

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%%* * StarCrossedLovers: Bruce and Andrea.Andrea. Just as he decides that she's worth giving up his plan of being Batman for, she has to leave Gotham and disappear thanks to the mob. When she resurfaces years later, they're still in love, [[spoiler:but she has become the murderer Phantasm, hunting down her father's killers, and is Batman's enemy]].



%%* {{Zeerust}}: The ''World Of The Future'' amusement park.

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%%* * {{Zeerust}}: The ''World Of The Future'' amusement park.In a flashback, Bruce and Andrea are shown having a wonderful time visiting the Gotham World's Fair, with its lively and optimistic RaygunGothic view of the future with standard things such as robot butlers. When the fair is revisited in the present, [[spoiler:it is in ruins, seemingly paralleling Bruce and Andrea's future, and serves as the final battleground for the two former lovers and the Joker]].
7th Jul '16 11:28:16 PM HighCrate
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* {{Badass}}:
** Batman.
** The Phantasm.
** The Joker.
* BadassCape: Batman, of course, and the Phantasm.



* CloudCuckooLander / TalkativeLoon: The Joker, especially in the scene where Sal tries to hire him to kill Batman.



** Andrea also has her moments.



* EmpathicEnvironment: The World of the Future.



* EvilLaugh: ComicBook/TheJoker.



* FemmeFatale / DarkActionGirl: [[spoiler: Andrea, upon being revealed to be the Phantasm.]]

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* FemmeFatale / DarkActionGirl: FemmeFatale: [[spoiler: Andrea, upon being revealed to be the Phantasm.]]



* FilmNoir: This is probably the most noir-ish example of a Batman adaptation ever, even by The Animated Series' standards.
* FlyAtTheCameraEnding: In this case, actually a Swing At The Camera Ending.

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* %%* FilmNoir: This is probably the most noir-ish example of a Batman adaptation ever, even by The Animated Series' standards.
* %%* FlyAtTheCameraEnding: In this case, actually a Swing At The Camera Ending.



** Could also apply as a heroic example to Bruce himself; his first venture has him in just a leather jacket and ski mask, and the criminals he pursues regard him as a wannabe-tough guy. Then Bruce dons The Cowl....
* GettingCrapPastTheRadar: In classic ''WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries'' fashion, this film manages to get away with a number of things such as alluding to Bruce having sex with Andrea, the Joker making sexual jokes at his robot wife, etc.



* TheGrimReaper: The Phantasm's design is based on this.
** Lampshaded by the Joker: When Reeves tells Joker that Batman is killing Beaumont's gang, the Joker answers, "It ain't the Bat...I've seen the guy, looks more like the [[Literature/AChristmasCarol Ghost of Christmas Future]]. Nowhere near as cute as Bat-boy."
* GroinAttack: [[spoiler:Andrea]] to the ''Joker'', no less.
* HairTriggerTemper: Reeves, when he got a call that Batman got away in spite of every available police.
-->"Unbelievable."
* HeartbrokenBadass: Batman again, and especially so by the end of it. [[spoiler:Andrea is also one.]]

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* TheGrimReaper: The Phantasm's design is based on this. \n** Lampshaded by the Joker: When Reeves tells Joker that Batman is killing Beaumont's gang, the Joker answers, "It ain't the Bat...I've seen the guy, looks more like the [[Literature/AChristmasCarol Ghost of Christmas Future]]. Nowhere near as cute as Bat-boy."
* %%* GroinAttack: [[spoiler:Andrea]] to the ''Joker'', no less.
* HairTriggerTemper: Reeves, when he got a call that Batman got away in spite of every available police.
-->"Unbelievable."
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%%* HeartbrokenBadass: Batman again, and especially so by the end of it. [[spoiler:Andrea is also one.]]



** Later in the movie, this exchange may qualify:

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** Later Invoked later in the movie, this exchange may qualify:movie:



* IDidWhatIHadToDo:
** The Phantasm's self-justification:
--->[[spoiler:'''Andrea''': They took everything from me: my father, my life, you. I'm not saying it's right, or even sane, but it's all I've got left. So, either help me or get out of the way!]]
** Arthur Reeves had his own reason for [[spoiler:selling out Andrea and her father to the mob.]]

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* IDidWhatIHadToDo:
** The Phantasm's self-justification:
--->[[spoiler:'''Andrea''': They took everything from me: my father, my life, you. I'm not saying it's right, or even sane, but it's all I've got left. So, either help me or get out of the way!]]
** Arthur
IDidWhatIHadToDo:Arthur Reeves had his own reason for [[spoiler:selling out Andrea and her father to the mob.]]



* InTheHood: The Phantasm.

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* %%* InTheHood: The Phantasm.



* JerkAss: Arthur Reeves. And that's putting it ''mildly''.

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* %%* JerkAss: Arthur Reeves. And that's putting it ''mildly''.



* MonsterClown: ComicBook/TheJoker, who else?

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* %%* MonsterClown: ComicBook/TheJoker, who else?



* MyNameIsInigoMontoya YouKilledMyFather PrepareToDie: Yes, the movie has all three of these tropes in one. Turns out, [[spoiler: Andrea is the Phantasm, her father was killed by the Joker when he was still just a regular mob enforcer (she'd already killed all but one of the bosses who'd ordered the hit), and she attempts to kill him]].



* NeverGotToSayGoodbye: The end credits song by Tia Carerre.

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* %%* NeverGotToSayGoodbye: The end credits song by Tia Carerre.



* NewOldFlame: Andrea Beaumont.

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* %%* NewOldFlame: Andrea Beaumont.



* NotSoDifferent: The Phantasm thinks this of Batman and [[spoiler:herself]]. Alfred agrees, to a point.

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* %%* NotSoDifferent: The Phantasm thinks this of Batman and [[spoiler:herself]]. Alfred agrees, to a point.



--->'''Alfred:''' I diapered your ''bottom'' - I bloodly well ''ought'' to!

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--->'''Alfred:''' I diapered your ''bottom'' - bottom! I bloodly well ''ought'' to!to! ''Sir!''



* OnlyAModel: The model city in the World of Tomorrow exhibit.

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* %%* OnlyAModel: The model city in the World of Tomorrow exhibit.



* PayEvilUntoEvil: The Phantasm's entire modus operandi.

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* %%* PayEvilUntoEvil: The Phantasm's entire modus operandi.



-->'''Joker:''' ''(to Sal)'' That's what I like to see - '''''a great big smile'''''.
* PrecisionFStrike:
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--->'''Batman''': You think you know everything about me, don't you?\\
'''Alfred''': I diapered your bottom, I '''bloody''' well ought to, ''sir''.

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-->'''Joker:''' ''(to Sal)'' That's what I like to see - '''''a ''a great big smile'''''.
* PrecisionFStrike:
**
--->'''Batman''': You think you know everything about me, don't you?\\
'''Alfred''': I diapered your bottom, I '''bloody''' well ought to, ''sir''.
smile''.



* RevengeBeforeReason: [[spoiler: And she admits it, too.]]

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* %%* RevengeBeforeReason: [[spoiler: And she admits it, too.]]



* SecondFaceSmoke: Young Sal does this to young Bruce.
* ServileSnarker: Alfred as always.
* SexyDiscretionShot: A rare one for the DCAU, but this movie got away with many mature themes.

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* %%* SecondFaceSmoke: Young Sal does this to young Bruce.
* %%* ServileSnarker: Alfred as always.
* %%* SexyDiscretionShot: A rare one for the DCAU, but this movie got away with many mature themes.



* StarCrossedLovers: Bruce and Andrea.

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* %%* StarCrossedLovers: Bruce and Andrea.



** [[spoiler: Andrea after becoming the Phantasm.]]

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** %%** [[spoiler: Andrea after becoming the Phantasm.]]



* TragicVillain: [[spoiler: Andrea, Andrea, Andrea...]]

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* %%* TragicVillain: [[spoiler: Andrea, Andrea, Andrea...]]



* {{Zeerust}}: The ''World Of The Future'' amusement park.

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* %%* {{Zeerust}}: The ''World Of The Future'' amusement park.
7th Jul '16 11:07:24 PM HighCrate
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* AntiVillain: The Phantasm falls somewhere between "Well-Intentioned Anti-Villain" and "NominalHero". [[spoiler:Also a Woobie Anti-Villain once her backstory is revealed.]]

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* AntiVillain: The Phantasm falls somewhere between "Well-Intentioned Anti-Villain" and "NominalHero". [[spoiler:Also a Woobie Anti-Villain once her backstory is revealed.]]murders people, but they're all really sleazy characters that nobody's exactly going to miss. Phanty's motives, when revealed, are also pretty sympathetic.
22nd Jun '16 2:16:12 AM TitoMosquito
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-->'''Arthur:''' Uh, wait a minute, you don't think...?\\

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-->'''Arthur:''' ''(backs away, nervously)'' Uh, wait a minute, you don't think...?\\
22nd Jun '16 2:10:11 AM TitoMosquito
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* HairTriggerTemper: Reeves, when he got a call that Batman got away in spite of every available police.
-->"Unbelievable."



* MythologyGag: During a flashback, a bat was briefly seeing outside Bruce's window and flew away. However, Bruce didn't see it.

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* MythologyGag: During a flashback, a bat was briefly seeing outside Bruce's window and flew away. However, Bruce didn't see it. [[ForWantOfANail He probably would have without Andrea's presence in his life.]]



** While we can't see the Phantasm's expression due to wearing a mask, [[spoiler:she likely has this reaction when she finds out the Joker is onto her when he laid a booby trap on Sal Valvestra's body (originally intended for Batman).]]



* SmokingIsCool: Flashback Sal Valvestra is frequently seen smoking, in all his mobster badassness. Fast forward to the present however, [[RealityEnsues and it is easy to see the toll all that smoking took on him.]]

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* SmokingIsCool: Flashback Sal Valvestra is frequently seen smoking, in all his mobster badassness. Fast forward to the present however, [[RealityEnsues and it is easy to see the toll all that smoking took on him.]]him]].
3rd Jun '16 1:26:22 PM TompaDompa
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-->'''Alfred:''' Vengeance blackens the soul, Bruce. I've always feared that you would become that which you fought against. You walk the edge of that abyss every night, but you haven't fallen in, and I thank heaven for that. But Andrea fell into that pit years ago, and no one, not even you, could have pulled her back.

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-->'''Alfred:''' Vengeance blackens the soul, Bruce. I've always feared that you would become that which you fought against. You walk the edge of that abyss every night, but you haven't fallen in, and I thank heaven for that. But [[spoiler:But Andrea fell into that pit years ago, and no one, not even you, could have pulled her back.]]
3rd Jun '16 10:37:52 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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-->'''Alfred:''' Vengeance blackens the soul, Bruce. I've always feared that you would become that which you fought against. You walk the edge of that abyss every night, but you haven't fallen in, and I thank heaven for that.

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-->'''Alfred:''' Vengeance blackens the soul, Bruce. I've always feared that you would become that which you fought against. You walk the edge of that abyss every night, but you haven't fallen in, and I thank heaven for that. But Andrea fell into that pit years ago, and no one, not even you, could have pulled her back.
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