History WesternAnimation / BatmanBeyondReturnoftheJoker

28th Aug '17 5:49:55 AM TheAmazingBlachman
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''Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker'' is a [[TheMovie feature-length installment]] of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'', the Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse series focusing on Terry [=McGinnis=], the Franchise/{{Batman}} of a future Gotham, and his mentor, an aged [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries Bruce Wayne]].

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''Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker'' is a 2000 [[TheMovie feature-length installment]] of ''WesternAnimation/BatmanBeyond'', the Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse series focusing on Terry [=McGinnis=], the Franchise/{{Batman}} of a future Gotham, and his mentor, an aged [[WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries Bruce Wayne]].
15th Aug '17 4:57:31 PM ironballs16
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--->'''The Joker:''' I must admit, it's sadly anti-climactic. Behind all the ''sturm und batarang'', you're just a little boy in a playsuit, crying for mommy and daddy! It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic.

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--->'''The Joker:''' I must admit, it's sadly anti-climactic. Behind all the ''sturm und batarang'', sturm and batarangs, you're just a little boy in a playsuit, crying for mommy and daddy! It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic.



--> "I must admit, it's sadly anti-climactic. Behind all the ''sturm und'' Batarang, you're just a little boy in a play-suit, crying for Mommy and Daddy! It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic. ...oh, what the heck, I'll laugh anyway!" ''[[[LaughingMad Mad Laughter]]]''

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--> "I must admit, it's sadly anti-climactic. Behind all the ''sturm und'' Batarang, sturm a batarangs, you're just a little boy in a play-suit, crying for Mommy and Daddy! It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic. ...oh, what the heck, I'll laugh anyway!" ''[[[LaughingMad Mad Laughter]]]''
7th Aug '17 9:32:37 AM Dravencour
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Decades after his supposed Death, ComicBook/TheJoker [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin returns]] to Gotham, eager to face his old ArchEnemy (or at least whoever is "pretending" to be The Batman). Puzzling both Terry and Bruce is that The Joker seems not to have aged at all in the time since he supposedly died. As Terry tries to solve this new mystery and protect Bruce from Joker's attacks, he delves into Old Man Wayne's [[DarkAndTroubledPast dark past]], unraveling the long-kept secret of what split apart the Bat-Family and how the rivalry between Batman and The Joker finally ended.

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Decades after his supposed Death, death, ComicBook/TheJoker [[ExactlyWhatItSaysOnTheTin returns]] to Gotham, eager to face his old ArchEnemy (or at least whoever is "pretending" to be The Batman). Puzzling both Terry and Bruce is that The Joker seems not to have aged at all in the time since he supposedly died. As Terry tries to solve this new mystery and protect Bruce from Joker's attacks, he delves into Old Man Wayne's [[DarkAndTroubledPast dark past]], unraveling the long-kept secret of what split apart the Bat-Family and how the rivalry between Batman and The Joker finally ended.
29th Jul '17 11:34:24 AM Jayalaw
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* HypocriticalHeartwarming: Unintentionally invoked by the Joker. During his VillainousBreakdown he screams [[spoiler: at Terry he's not Batman]]. Doesn't matter how professional you are, how well you fight, or even how much you can easily piss the Joker off, to him, [[WorthyOpponent only Bruce is Batman]]. Anyone else who takes up his cape and cowl is a punk and an amateur.

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* HypocriticalHeartwarming: HypocriticalHeartwarming:
** Matt complains about with Terry being at home because he's used to being an only child. Terry in response flicks some cereal at him. When Joker threatens Matt and their mother, however, Terry clenches his fist and sics Ace on Joker.
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Unintentionally invoked by the Joker. During his VillainousBreakdown he screams [[spoiler: at Terry he's not Batman]]. Doesn't matter how professional you are, how well you fight, or even how much you can easily piss the Joker off, to him, [[WorthyOpponent only Bruce is Batman]]. Anyone else who takes up his cape and cowl is a punk and an amateur.



* MoodWhiplash: In the flashback, Batman busts in on Joker and Harley at Arkham as they are acting out what appears to be a cheesy 1950s sitcom. They announce their intention to start a family, and the mood is quite goofy. Then Joker peels back a curtain and reveals what he did to Tim Drake.

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* MoodWhiplash: MoodWhiplash:
** After Bruce "fires" him, Terry goes to hang out with Dana at their nightclub. She snuggles as they slow-dance, while Terry promises there's more time for them ... and then the Jokerz appear, to kill Terry.
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In the flashback, Batman busts in on Joker and Harley at Arkham as they are acting out what appears to be a cheesy 1950s sitcom. They announce their intention to start a family, and the mood is quite goofy. Then Joker peels back a curtain and reveals what he did to Tim Drake.


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* MuggingTheMonster: When the Jokerz attack Terry, they mention their boss didn't mention why he wanted the young man dead. While they injure Dana so that she has to go to the hospital, Terry manages to beat them all with some improvisation, ''without the suit''. By the end of it most of them are half-drowned and Terry takes out Chucko with one punch.


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* PaperThinDisguise: Averted with the DeeDee twins. They wear bob cut wigs that are red, but in civilian guise have long blond hair. Thus when they "cut in" and bump Dana away from the dance floor, Terry is confused but doesn't realize who they are until they attack him.


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* RealityEnsues:
** After stopping the Jokerz in the ColdOpen, Terry tries to go out and dance with Dana. Bruce tells him he ought to get some sleep since he's been up all night, but Terry assures him he's fine. One GilliganCut later and Terry is fast asleep in the nightclub.
** Assisting criminals with [[spoiler:sabotaging your own company will get you in trouble with the police, evne if you're a high-end corporate executive]].


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* TapOnTheHead:
** Subverted with Dana. When she bumps her head after being tossed by Ghoul, she's unconscious and has to be taken to the hospital.
** Played straight with the Jokerz. Terry knocks them out on more than one occasion and they aren't the worse for wear.
20th Jul '17 3:58:19 AM LadyJaneGrey
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* WrongGenreSavvy: While the Joker knows Bruce almost as well as a best friend (he did have access to Tim's memories) and could predict his actions very well, Terry makes it a point to let the Joker know that he doesn't know much about himself while [[CombatPragmatist kneeing the Joker]] [[GroinAttack in the Crotch]]. More than that, Terry had an outsiders' perspective on the Joker though with in-depth knowledge from studying Bruce's old files, which meant he could more objectively find the flaws in the Joker's thinking and planning without the serious personal history that the original Batman had with the Joker. Since most of the Joker's plans revolve around goading Batman and making it [[ItsPersonal personal]] to cloud Bruce's judgement and lure him into traps, this is utterly ineffective against Terry who just sees Joker as a clown. [[VillainousBreakdown The Joker doesn't take Terry's lack of respect well.]]

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* WrongGenreSavvy: While the Joker knows Bruce almost as well as a best friend (he did have access to Tim's memories) and could predict his actions very well, Terry makes it a point to let the Joker know that he doesn't know much about himself while [[CombatPragmatist kneeing the Joker]] [[GroinAttack in the Crotch]]. More than that, Terry had an outsiders' perspective on the Joker though with in-depth knowledge from studying Bruce's old files, which meant he could more objectively find the flaws in the Joker's thinking and planning without the serious personal history that the original Batman had with the Joker. Since most of the Joker's plans revolve around goading Batman and making it [[ItsPersonal personal]] to cloud Bruce's judgement and lure him into traps, this is utterly ineffective against Terry who just sees Joker as a clown. [[VillainousBreakdown The Joker doesn't take Terry's lack of respect well.]]]] Ironically, the villain isn't entirely wrong when he furiously shouts that Terry isn't Batman; Terry is a ''completely different type of'' Batman at least.
19th Jul '17 8:39:28 PM Jayalaw
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* BigBrotherInstinct: Despite Matt complaining that Terry is a stranger in their house, a prone Terry clenches his fist when Joker threatens his family.



** Subverted with [[spoiler:Tim and Bruce. As Barbara tells it, Bruce blamed himself for what happened to Tim, and forbade him from wearing the suit. Tim admits that Bruce probably did him a favor by taking the suit away from him after the MindRape. He happily greets Bruce when the latter visits him in the end.]]



* CartesianKarma: Averted. [[spoiler:Barbara knows that Tim was brainwashed by the Joker via microchip and covers for him. She tells Tim it wasn't his fault and he was "along for the ride".]]



** In the original version of the flashback, Batgirl questions her informants from the ''TNBA'' episode "The Ultimate Thrill." (Cut from the bowlderised version, presumably because they appear to be hookers.)

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** In the original version of the flashback, Batgirl questions her informants from the ''TNBA'' episode "The Ultimate Thrill." (Cut from the bowlderised bowdlerized version, presumably because they appear to be hookers.)



* DudeWheresMyRespect: Terry is annoyed that Bruce and Barbara are keeping him LockedOutOfTheLoop, Bruce for fear of the Joker targeting Terry, Barbara to [[spoiler:protect Tim's privacy]]. He tells Bruce that he's not that vulnerable, and once [[spoiler:Barbara tells him what happened to Tim, Terry manages to get a few leads on how to find the Joker.]]



* EntertaininglyWrong: Terry tries to ask Bruce how the latter is certain that the Joker is dead. When Bruce refuses to answer, Terry theorizes that Batman was forced to break his ThouShaltNotKill rule and kill the Joker before he did a terrible thing. [[spoiler:What actually happened, when the Joker kidnapped and mind-raped Tim, was much worse.]]



* ItsAllMyFault: [[spoiler:Barbara mentions at the end of the flashback that Bruce blamed himself for causing Tim to be tortured by the Joker, and that the reason he asked Tim to give up his Robin suit was so that he would never put another accomplice in such a horrible situation again. This is also the reason Bruce is reluctant to let Terry find the Joker, since he fears it will cause Terry to suffer Tim's fate as well.]]

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* ItsAllMyFault: [[spoiler:Barbara mentions at the end of the flashback that Bruce blamed himself for causing Tim to be tortured by the Joker, and that the reason he asked Tim to give up his Robin suit was so that he would never put another accomplice in such a horrible situation again. Tim doesn't blame Bruce for what happened, and mentions that it was probably for the best that he gave up the cowl. This is also the reason Bruce is reluctant to let Terry find the Joker, and tells him he shouldn't have forced the burden of Batman on him, since he fears it will cause Terry to suffer Tim's fate as well.]]



* LaserGuidedKarma: [[spoiler:Harley spent her youth refusing redemption whenever the Joker called, and aided him in multiple schemes. Her reward for this was constant abuse, and finally falling down a pit; even though she survived, she needs to use a cane afterwards. As an old lady, she finds out that her granddaughters are spending their youth as part of a Jokerz gang, and have even found "Pudding".]]



* ThouShaltNotKill: The film strongly implies that Bruce was going to kill The Joker--as evidenced by Bruce throwing a knife at Joker's head.

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* ThouShaltNotKill: ThouShaltNotKill:
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The film strongly implies that Bruce was going to kill The Joker--as evidenced by Bruce throwing a knife at Joker's head.head.
** [[spoiler:Terry kills the Joker a second time by frying the microchip that is changing Tim into Mr. J. Overlaps with WhatMeasureIsANonhuman]]



* TurnInYourBadge: [[spoiler:Bruce does this to Terry, afraid of what Joker might do to the new Batman. Bruce being Bruce, he does not do the best job of getting that across.]]

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* TurnInYourBadge: [[spoiler:Bruce does this to Terry, afraid of what Joker might do to the new Batman. Bruce being Bruce, he does not do the best job of getting that across.across, after apologizing to Terry for imposing the Batman legacy on him.]]
18th Jul '17 10:32:35 AM creader
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** After the events of that night, [[spoiler:Harley undergoes a HeelFaceTurn and adopts a civilian life, and having an offscreen HeelRealization about what she did to Tim. Then forty years later, when she's an old woman and unable to fight, "Pudding" recruits her granddaughter to enter a life of crime. Does anyone blame her for smacking them with AngerBornOfWorry?]]

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** After the events of that night, [[spoiler:Harley undergoes a HeelFaceTurn and adopts a civilian life, and having an offscreen HeelRealization about what she did to Tim. Then forty years later, when she's an old woman and unable to fight, "Pudding" recruits her granddaughter granddaughters to enter a life of crime. Does anyone blame her for smacking them with AngerBornOfWorry?]]
16th Jul '17 1:09:48 PM ANTMuddle
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* PutTheirHeadsTogether: When the Deedees come at him from opposite sides after their SlipperySkid, Terry neatly pulls an invisible act worthy of DoorJudo, causing them to smash into each other in this way.
11th Jul '17 8:57:03 AM ironballs16
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** Which is something of an IronicEcho from the Joker's own disappointment upon learning Batman's identity.
--->'''Joker''': It's ''true'', Batsy - I know everything. And kind of like the kid who peeks at his Christmas presents, I must admit, it's sadly anticlimactic. Behind all the sturm and batarangs, you're just a little boy in a playsuit [[DeathByOriginStory crying for mommy and daddy]]. It'd be funny if it weren't so pathetic. (''{{Beat}}'') Oh what the heck, I'll laugh anyway!
2nd Jul '17 6:04:47 PM ghidorah15
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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler:In a subversion of [[JokerImmunity the very trope named after him]], The Joker got this treatment in this film. He proved to be as much of a survivor in the Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverseas as his comic book counterpart, every bit the "no one" in NoOneCouldSurviveThat--but this movie took the big leap and put him down once and for all. It even did it twice! The first time, Joker is killed in Arkham Asylum and his body is buried within its walls. The second time, the chip containing a copy of his DNA and memories was burned out, just to make sure he cannot ever come back.]]

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* KilledOffForReal: [[spoiler:In [[spoiler: In a subversion of [[JokerImmunity the very trope named after him]], The Joker got this treatment in this film. He proved to be as much of a survivor in the Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverseas Franchise/DCAnimatedUniverse as his comic book counterpart, every bit the "no one" in NoOneCouldSurviveThat--but NoOneCouldSurviveThat -- but this movie took the big leap and put him down once and for all. It even did it twice! The first time, Joker is killed in Arkham Asylum and his body is buried within its walls. The second time, the chip containing a copy of his DNA and memories was is burned out, just to make sure he cannot ever can ''never'' come back.]]
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