History WellIntentionedExtremist / ComicBooks

18th Apr '16 1:27:01 PM Vovka
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** To back his words up, Doom says that he once took a journey through various alternate futures and the ''only'' one where Earth wasn't either destroyed or a dystopia was the one where Doom rules.
1st Apr '16 1:57:28 PM ObsidianFire
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* It's a good thing that Franchise/{{Superman}} is GenreSavvy enough to be freaked out by the possibility of becoming this trope, since his power would make fulfilling any goals he may set pretty easy.

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* It's a good thing that Franchise/{{Superman}} is GenreSavvy smart enough to be freaked out by the possibility of becoming this trope, since his power would make fulfilling any goals he may set pretty easy.
14th Mar '16 9:04:44 PM Homemaderat
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* Baron Helmut Zemo is a rarer example where we actually see him become this from an outright villain. His original motivation was to avenge his evil Nazi father, and general take over the world shenanigans, he saw this change during his time on the ''ComicBook/''Thunderbolts''''. He had put this team together with the idea of faking being heroes to take over the world. Yet when most of his team mates genuinely liked becoming heroes, he changed his motives. While not reforming in standards to be a true hero, he found a lot of his ideas as a "take over the world" plan could instead be a "save the world plan".

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* Baron Helmut Zemo is a rarer example where we actually see him become this from an outright villain. His original motivation was to avenge his evil Nazi father, and general take over the world shenanigans, he saw this change during his time on the ''ComicBook/''Thunderbolts''''.''ComicBook/{{Thunderbolts}}''. He had put this team together with the idea of faking being heroes to take over the world. Yet when most of his team mates genuinely liked becoming heroes, he changed his motives. While not reforming in standards to be a true hero, he found a lot of his ideas as a "take over the world" plan could instead be a "save the world plan".
14th Mar '16 9:03:23 PM Homemaderat
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* Baron Helmut Zemo falls here these days. While his original motivation was to avenge his father, his current MO is to take over the world...so he can save it.
** Similarly, he leaked ComicBook/BuckyBarnes' identity to the press and essentially ruined his life...because he had genuine moral outrage over the fact that a former Soviet assassin was being allowed to wear the ComicBook/CaptainAmerica costume.

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* Baron Helmut Zemo falls here these days. While his is a rarer example where we actually see him become this from an outright villain. His original motivation was to avenge his evil Nazi father, and general take over the world shenanigans, he saw this change during his current MO is time on the ''ComicBook/''Thunderbolts''''. He had put this team together with the idea of faking being heroes to take over the world...so world. Yet when most of his team mates genuinely liked becoming heroes, he can save it.
changed his motives. While not reforming in standards to be a true hero, he found a lot of his ideas as a "take over the world" plan could instead be a "save the world plan".
** Similarly, Problem of course with this being he's not nice enough to be a "hero" per say even though at times he has clearly chosen to do the right thing. But in the ultimate showdown, when he had the power to actually go about changing the world his team mate turned on him over not trusting him to actually do what he was saying he meant. His could have been last words interestingly were more of "I wouldn't hurt the world" instead of a "screw you" had he have really just meant to go all bad again.
** Despite this CharacterDevelopment when the decision came to make him more straight villain than he had been they went about it in a standout way. He
leaked ComicBook/BuckyBarnes' identity to the press and essentially ruined his life...because he had genuine moral outrage over the fact that a former Soviet assassin was being allowed to wear the ComicBook/CaptainAmerica costume. Especially after everything he had done since the Thunderbolts to his favor, yet Bucky was seemingly forgiven so much easier. Yes, you read that right, Zemo's back in the villain chair because he had a very bad reaction to a WhatTheHellHero moment.
28th Feb '16 7:26:23 PM nombretomado
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** Similarly, he leaked ComicBook/BuckyBarnes' identity to the press and essentially ruined his life...because he had genuine moral outrage over the fact that a former Soviet assassin was being allowed to wear the CaptainAmerica costume.

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** Similarly, he leaked ComicBook/BuckyBarnes' identity to the press and essentially ruined his life...because he had genuine moral outrage over the fact that a former Soviet assassin was being allowed to wear the CaptainAmerica ComicBook/CaptainAmerica costume.



* The ''CaptainAmerica'' villain Flag-Smasher thinks that the only way to end humanity's problems is to dissolve all governments and unite Earth in a OneWorldOrder. Unfortunately, he chose terrorism as the way to get his views accepted, doing things like destroying national symbols, assassinating world leaders (especially symbolic leaders, like monarchs) and naturally, fighting Captain America, the living symbol of America. During his first fight, Captain America tried to talk him into becoming a hero; let the world see how his world government views inspired him to acts of heroism, much like Cap's own views did for him. He didn't listen. Even worse, he leads a whole organization of lunatics with this belief named U.L.T.M.A.T.U.M.
** The ''UltimateMarvel'' take on Nuke is this. Essentially created as the CaptainAmerica for the UsefulNotes/VietnamWar, he eventually felt his country had betrayed him and the very values it claimed to stand for, walking off into the jungles and disappearing. When he resurfaced, he was trying to create SuperSerum to give a new army of super soldiers with which to tear down the irredeemably corrupt America that had arisen, and deliberately tried to break Captain America by confronting him with all of the atrocities that the USA has performed and the corrupt governors that have arisen, including UsefulNotes/RichardNixon and his illegal campaign of carpet bombing in Cambodia and Laos and the C.I.A.'s ousting of a democratically elected president of Chile to install the corrupt regime of Augusto Pinochet.

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* The ''CaptainAmerica'' ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'' villain Flag-Smasher thinks that the only way to end humanity's problems is to dissolve all governments and unite Earth in a OneWorldOrder. Unfortunately, he chose terrorism as the way to get his views accepted, doing things like destroying national symbols, assassinating world leaders (especially symbolic leaders, like monarchs) and naturally, fighting Captain America, the living symbol of America. During his first fight, Captain America tried to talk him into becoming a hero; let the world see how his world government views inspired him to acts of heroism, much like Cap's own views did for him. He didn't listen. Even worse, he leads a whole organization of lunatics with this belief named U.L.T.M.A.T.U.M.
** The ''UltimateMarvel'' take on Nuke is this. Essentially created as the CaptainAmerica ComicBook/CaptainAmerica for the UsefulNotes/VietnamWar, he eventually felt his country had betrayed him and the very values it claimed to stand for, walking off into the jungles and disappearing. When he resurfaced, he was trying to create SuperSerum to give a new army of super soldiers with which to tear down the irredeemably corrupt America that had arisen, and deliberately tried to break Captain America by confronting him with all of the atrocities that the USA has performed and the corrupt governors that have arisen, including UsefulNotes/RichardNixon and his illegal campaign of carpet bombing in Cambodia and Laos and the C.I.A.'s ousting of a democratically elected president of Chile to install the corrupt regime of Augusto Pinochet.
4th Feb '16 1:58:34 PM MikeW
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** To back his words up, Doom says that he once took a journey through various alternate futures and the ''only'' one where Earth wasn't either destroyed or a dystopia was the one where Doom rules.


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* In ComicBook/AvengersAcademy, Jeremy Briggs unveils "Clean Slate," a formula that will take away superpowers which at first seems great as it allows Mettle and Hazmat to be human again. However, Briggs reveals he plans to fire off missiles to spread Clean Slate around the globe and take away ''everyone's'' superpowers. He says this will stop the massive battles and destruction of cities and he'll give powers back to those he thinks are worthy. Of course, the fact that Briggs is a sociopath and his view of "worthy" is warped to say the least, the team realize they have to stop him, no matter how right he claims to be.
24th Jan '16 6:33:46 PM nombretomado
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** And in ''SupermanRedSon'' where Superman was raised under the belief of communism, he does just this. Taking over Russia and becoming a Dictator to protect the people. He tries to do this to the whole world but is stop by Lex Luthor with a simple [[ArmorPiercingQuestion note]] that makes him realize he is no better than Braniac trying to put the world in a bottle.

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** And in ''SupermanRedSon'' ''ComicBook/SupermanRedSon'' where Superman was raised under the belief of communism, he does just this. Taking over Russia and becoming a Dictator to protect the people. He tries to do this to the whole world but is stop by Lex Luthor with a simple [[ArmorPiercingQuestion note]] that makes him realize he is no better than Braniac trying to put the world in a bottle.
13th Jan '16 5:39:34 PM nombretomado
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* The ''SquadronSupreme'' limited series was built on this trope, as the Squadron vows to use their super-powers to cure all of society's ills -- even if it requires restricting civil rights and individual liberties to do so.

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* The ''SquadronSupreme'' ''ComicBook/SquadronSupreme'' limited series was built on this trope, as the Squadron vows to use their super-powers to cure all of society's ills -- even if it requires restricting civil rights and individual liberties to do so.
13th Jan '16 12:48:48 AM Doug86
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* General Zod, long-time enemy of ComicBook/{{Superman}}, has been reinvented as this over the last year in the "World of New Krypton" storyline. Normally a conquering madman, he has been named military commander of New Krypton and is devoted to protecting the new planet by any means necessary, but he has been shown to be fairly honorable and decent. He cracked down on his sadistic minion Gor, promoted Superman in his place when he was incapacitated by an assassin, and came to appreciate his former enemy while still maintaining views that are much harsher than those of Superman's. If New Krypton is destroyed, [[UnstoppableRage all bets are off]].

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* General Zod, long-time enemy of ComicBook/{{Superman}}, Franchise/{{Superman}}, has been reinvented as this over the last year in the "World of New Krypton" storyline. Normally a conquering madman, he has been named military commander of New Krypton and is devoted to protecting the new planet by any means necessary, but he has been shown to be fairly honorable and decent. He cracked down on his sadistic minion Gor, promoted Superman in his place when he was incapacitated by an assassin, and came to appreciate his former enemy while still maintaining views that are much harsher than those of Superman's. If New Krypton is destroyed, [[UnstoppableRage all bets are off]].



* It's a good thing that {{Superman}} is GenreSavvy enough to be freaked out by the possibility of becoming this trope, since his power would make fulfilling any goals he may set pretty easy.

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* It's a good thing that {{Superman}} Franchise/{{Superman}} is GenreSavvy enough to be freaked out by the possibility of becoming this trope, since his power would make fulfilling any goals he may set pretty easy.
6th Jan '16 10:11:47 PM Doug86
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* Franchise/{{Batman}} himself comes close to this from time to time, especially in the FrankMiller variations. It's implied that the reason Batman sticks so close to [[ThouShaltNotKill his code of no killing]] is because he's afraid that once he crossed that line, he would become this.

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* Franchise/{{Batman}} himself comes close to this from time to time, especially in the FrankMiller Creator/FrankMiller variations. It's implied that the reason Batman sticks so close to [[ThouShaltNotKill his code of no killing]] is because he's afraid that once he crossed that line, he would become this.
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