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19th May '16 8:29:27 AM Doug86
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* ComicBook/{{Spider-Man}}'s enemy, the Vulture, is a good example of the other type of this trope. Many years after his debut, he was given a backstory in which an unscrupulous business partner cheated him out of the proceeds from his inventions. He wrecked said partner's business, stole back his money, and discovered that he enjoyed the thrill. Eventually, the partner surfaced, and the usually not-murderous Vulture went after him; Spidey stopped the Vulture but taped the partner's confession.

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* ComicBook/{{Spider-Man}}'s ComicBook/SpiderMan's enemy, the Vulture, is a good example of the other type of this trope. Many years after his debut, he was given a backstory in which an unscrupulous business partner cheated him out of the proceeds from his inventions. He wrecked said partner's business, stole back his money, and discovered that he enjoyed the thrill. Eventually, the partner surfaced, and the usually not-murderous Vulture went after him; Spidey stopped the Vulture but taped the partner's confession.
15th May '16 9:35:35 AM nombretomado
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* {{Magneto}} in ''ComicBook/XMen'' is one of the archetypal examples in the medium. He wants peace and safety for mutantkind--but he's willing to achieve it at the expense of humanity at large. Magneto's characterization varies wildly depending on who is writing him, but the most influential version is the one envisioned by Chris Claremont and fits this trope to a tee.

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* {{Magneto}} ComicBook/{{Magneto}} in ''ComicBook/XMen'' is one of the archetypal examples in the medium. He wants peace and safety for mutantkind--but he's willing to achieve it at the expense of humanity at large. Magneto's characterization varies wildly depending on who is writing him, but the most influential version is the one envisioned by Chris Claremont and fits this trope to a tee.
14th May '16 10:47:58 AM Morgenthaler
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* ''ComicBook/{{Shakara}}'': Dr. Lara Procopio was convinced to design the [[SyntheticPlague Red Death virus]] to wipe out the Shakara only because of the merciless way that they had [[KnightTemplar imposed their own rigid sense of order on the rest of the universe]], and she thought it would be better off without them. She became TheAtoner when the alliance that originally opposed the Shakara proved to be far worse than them.
14th May '16 1:14:25 AM Doug86
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* {{Magneto}} in ''ComicBook/{{X-Men}}'' is one of the archetypal examples in the medium. He wants peace and safety for mutantkind--but he's willing to achieve it at the expense of humanity at large. Magneto's characterization varies wildly depending on who is writing him, but the most influential version is the one envisioned by Chris Claremont and fits this trope to a tee.

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* {{Magneto}} in ''ComicBook/{{X-Men}}'' ''ComicBook/XMen'' is one of the archetypal examples in the medium. He wants peace and safety for mutantkind--but he's willing to achieve it at the expense of humanity at large. Magneto's characterization varies wildly depending on who is writing him, but the most influential version is the one envisioned by Chris Claremont and fits this trope to a tee.
5th May '16 2:12:12 PM DevinMeenan
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** Buffy Season Eight reveals that all of [[spoiler: Angel's]] actions as Twilight (including being the head of an anti-Slayer military organization and putting Buffy and her crew through all sorts of hell) were all to prevent anything like the Fall of Los Angeles (as detailed in [=IDW's=] ''After the Fall'') from happening to the entire Earth. Of course, the higher being that convinced him to do so had also duped him into thinking it was good when it [[GodOfEvil wasn't]].

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** Buffy Season Eight reveals that all of [[spoiler: Angel's]] actions as Twilight (including being the head of an anti-Slayer military organization and putting Buffy and her crew through all sorts of hell) were all to prevent anything like the Fall of Los Angeles (as detailed in [=IDW's=] ''After the Fall'') from happening to the entire Earth.again. Of course, the higher being that convinced him to do so had also duped him into thinking it was good when it [[GodOfEvil wasn't]].
18th Apr '16 1:27:01 PM Vovka
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** To back his words up, Doom says that he once took a journey through various alternate futures and the ''only'' one where Earth wasn't either destroyed or a dystopia was the one where Doom rules.
1st Apr '16 1:57:28 PM ObsidianFire
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* It's a good thing that Franchise/{{Superman}} is GenreSavvy enough to be freaked out by the possibility of becoming this trope, since his power would make fulfilling any goals he may set pretty easy.

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* It's a good thing that Franchise/{{Superman}} is GenreSavvy smart enough to be freaked out by the possibility of becoming this trope, since his power would make fulfilling any goals he may set pretty easy.
14th Mar '16 9:04:44 PM Homemaderat
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* Baron Helmut Zemo is a rarer example where we actually see him become this from an outright villain. His original motivation was to avenge his evil Nazi father, and general take over the world shenanigans, he saw this change during his time on the ''ComicBook/''Thunderbolts''''. He had put this team together with the idea of faking being heroes to take over the world. Yet when most of his team mates genuinely liked becoming heroes, he changed his motives. While not reforming in standards to be a true hero, he found a lot of his ideas as a "take over the world" plan could instead be a "save the world plan".

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* Baron Helmut Zemo is a rarer example where we actually see him become this from an outright villain. His original motivation was to avenge his evil Nazi father, and general take over the world shenanigans, he saw this change during his time on the ''ComicBook/''Thunderbolts''''.''ComicBook/{{Thunderbolts}}''. He had put this team together with the idea of faking being heroes to take over the world. Yet when most of his team mates genuinely liked becoming heroes, he changed his motives. While not reforming in standards to be a true hero, he found a lot of his ideas as a "take over the world" plan could instead be a "save the world plan".
14th Mar '16 9:03:23 PM Homemaderat
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* Baron Helmut Zemo falls here these days. While his original motivation was to avenge his father, his current MO is to take over the world...so he can save it.
** Similarly, he leaked ComicBook/BuckyBarnes' identity to the press and essentially ruined his life...because he had genuine moral outrage over the fact that a former Soviet assassin was being allowed to wear the ComicBook/CaptainAmerica costume.

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* Baron Helmut Zemo falls here these days. While his is a rarer example where we actually see him become this from an outright villain. His original motivation was to avenge his evil Nazi father, and general take over the world shenanigans, he saw this change during his current MO is time on the ''ComicBook/''Thunderbolts''''. He had put this team together with the idea of faking being heroes to take over the world...so world. Yet when most of his team mates genuinely liked becoming heroes, he can save it.
changed his motives. While not reforming in standards to be a true hero, he found a lot of his ideas as a "take over the world" plan could instead be a "save the world plan".
** Similarly, Problem of course with this being he's not nice enough to be a "hero" per say even though at times he has clearly chosen to do the right thing. But in the ultimate showdown, when he had the power to actually go about changing the world his team mate turned on him over not trusting him to actually do what he was saying he meant. His could have been last words interestingly were more of "I wouldn't hurt the world" instead of a "screw you" had he have really just meant to go all bad again.
** Despite this CharacterDevelopment when the decision came to make him more straight villain than he had been they went about it in a standout way. He
leaked ComicBook/BuckyBarnes' identity to the press and essentially ruined his life...because he had genuine moral outrage over the fact that a former Soviet assassin was being allowed to wear the ComicBook/CaptainAmerica costume. Especially after everything he had done since the Thunderbolts to his favor, yet Bucky was seemingly forgiven so much easier. Yes, you read that right, Zemo's back in the villain chair because he had a very bad reaction to a WhatTheHellHero moment.
28th Feb '16 7:26:23 PM nombretomado
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** Similarly, he leaked ComicBook/BuckyBarnes' identity to the press and essentially ruined his life...because he had genuine moral outrage over the fact that a former Soviet assassin was being allowed to wear the CaptainAmerica costume.

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** Similarly, he leaked ComicBook/BuckyBarnes' identity to the press and essentially ruined his life...because he had genuine moral outrage over the fact that a former Soviet assassin was being allowed to wear the CaptainAmerica ComicBook/CaptainAmerica costume.



* The ''CaptainAmerica'' villain Flag-Smasher thinks that the only way to end humanity's problems is to dissolve all governments and unite Earth in a OneWorldOrder. Unfortunately, he chose terrorism as the way to get his views accepted, doing things like destroying national symbols, assassinating world leaders (especially symbolic leaders, like monarchs) and naturally, fighting Captain America, the living symbol of America. During his first fight, Captain America tried to talk him into becoming a hero; let the world see how his world government views inspired him to acts of heroism, much like Cap's own views did for him. He didn't listen. Even worse, he leads a whole organization of lunatics with this belief named U.L.T.M.A.T.U.M.
** The ''UltimateMarvel'' take on Nuke is this. Essentially created as the CaptainAmerica for the UsefulNotes/VietnamWar, he eventually felt his country had betrayed him and the very values it claimed to stand for, walking off into the jungles and disappearing. When he resurfaced, he was trying to create SuperSerum to give a new army of super soldiers with which to tear down the irredeemably corrupt America that had arisen, and deliberately tried to break Captain America by confronting him with all of the atrocities that the USA has performed and the corrupt governors that have arisen, including UsefulNotes/RichardNixon and his illegal campaign of carpet bombing in Cambodia and Laos and the C.I.A.'s ousting of a democratically elected president of Chile to install the corrupt regime of Augusto Pinochet.

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* The ''CaptainAmerica'' ''ComicBook/CaptainAmerica'' villain Flag-Smasher thinks that the only way to end humanity's problems is to dissolve all governments and unite Earth in a OneWorldOrder. Unfortunately, he chose terrorism as the way to get his views accepted, doing things like destroying national symbols, assassinating world leaders (especially symbolic leaders, like monarchs) and naturally, fighting Captain America, the living symbol of America. During his first fight, Captain America tried to talk him into becoming a hero; let the world see how his world government views inspired him to acts of heroism, much like Cap's own views did for him. He didn't listen. Even worse, he leads a whole organization of lunatics with this belief named U.L.T.M.A.T.U.M.
** The ''UltimateMarvel'' take on Nuke is this. Essentially created as the CaptainAmerica ComicBook/CaptainAmerica for the UsefulNotes/VietnamWar, he eventually felt his country had betrayed him and the very values it claimed to stand for, walking off into the jungles and disappearing. When he resurfaced, he was trying to create SuperSerum to give a new army of super soldiers with which to tear down the irredeemably corrupt America that had arisen, and deliberately tried to break Captain America by confronting him with all of the atrocities that the USA has performed and the corrupt governors that have arisen, including UsefulNotes/RichardNixon and his illegal campaign of carpet bombing in Cambodia and Laos and the C.I.A.'s ousting of a democratically elected president of Chile to install the corrupt regime of Augusto Pinochet.
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