History Webcomic / Sunstone

22nd Aug '16 11:51:40 PM Arivne
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* TheInternetIsForPorn: Anne finds out that when you're trying to get an idea of what your best friend is doing with her husband in their alone time, google image search with the safe-search turned off is ''not'' the best way to go about it.



* TheMatchmaker: Cassie's ''other'' hobby. There's not been a scene between her and Alan or Anne where she's not trying to get the two of them to meet. She's not very good at it either. Neither of them were ready for a relationship at that moment, and when, after some time, they do meet Cassie has got nothing to do with it (though she must have felt pretty smug when they got married).



* TheInternetIsForPorn: Anne finds out that when you're trying to get an idea of what your best friend is doing with her husband in their alone time, google image search with the safe-search turned off is ''not'' the best way to go about it.



* TheMatchmaker: Cassie's ''other'' hobby. There's not been a scene between her and Alan or Anne where she's not trying to get the two of them to meet. She's not very good at it either. Neither of them were ready for a relationship at that moment, and when, after some time, they do meet Cassie has got nothing to do with it. (Though she must have felt pretty smug when they got married)
22nd Aug '16 11:26:09 PM Arivne
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* {{Adorkable}}: Ally can be a total spaz when she thinks about how lucky she was to find Lisa.
** And Anne is showing signs of this as well, though hers is more of a bashful reticence in regards to Lisa. It's adorable.

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* {{Adorkable}}: {{Adorkable}}
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Ally can be a total spaz when she thinks about how lucky she was to find Lisa.
** And Anne is showing signs of this as well, though hers is more of a bashful reticence in regards to Lisa. It's adorable.



* AllWomenAreDomsAllMenAreSubs: Averted with Alan, much to Anne's surprise in the original continuity.

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* AllWomenAreDomsAllMenAreSubs: AllWomenAreDomsAllMenAreSubs
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Averted with Alan, much to Anne's surprise in the original continuity.



* BeneathTheMask: A recurring theme of the webcomic is masks and how despite the fact these characters use persona in their BDSM, beneath these masks they are all perfectly normal (and in Ally's case adorkable) people.
** This quote adequately sums the author's attitude up succinctly:

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* BeneathTheMask: A recurring theme of the webcomic is masks and how despite the fact these characters use persona in their BDSM, beneath these masks they are all perfectly normal (and in Ally's case adorkable) people.
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people. This quote adequately sums the author's attitude up succinctly:



* BiTheWay: Anne, who is shown to marry [[spoiler: Alan]] in the future but also seems to have a crush on Lisa as well as indulge in all female threesome fantasies.

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* BiTheWay: BiTheWay
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Anne, who is shown to marry [[spoiler: Alan]] in the future but also seems to have a crush on Lisa as well as indulge in all female threesome fantasies.



* BondageIsBad: Averted completely. WordOfGod has stated that the comic exists to show healthy BDSM relationships accurately and educate people on the falsehood of this trope.

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* BondageIsBad: BondageIsBad
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Averted completely. WordOfGod has stated that the comic exists to show healthy BDSM relationships accurately and educate people on the falsehood of this trope.



* CantSpitItOut: Ally is good talking in circles and not getting to the point when she's nervous or scared, luckly Lisa is also good at getting it out of her.

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* CantSpitItOut: CantSpitItOut
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Ally is good talking in circles and not getting to the point when she's nervous or scared, luckly Lisa is also good at getting it out of her.



* CharacterTics: Lisa has a habit of biting her lip when she's turned on ([[PottyEmergency or needs to pee]]). Ally ''loves'' it.

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* CharacterTics: CharacterTics
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Lisa has a habit of biting her lip when she's turned on ([[PottyEmergency or needs to pee]]). Ally ''loves'' it.



** CollaredByFashion[=/=]SlaveCollar: Naturally fetish collars appear regularly in the comic: all the subs have them. Most of them are leather but special mention goes to the one Alan provides Anne which is ''made of solid silver'' and the appearances of posture collars.

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** CollaredByFashion[=/=]SlaveCollar: CollaredByFashion[=/=]SlaveCollar
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Naturally fetish collars appear regularly in the comic: all the subs have them. Most of them are leather but special mention goes to the one Alan provides Anne which is ''made of solid silver'' and the appearances of posture collars.



* CrackIsCheaper: InUniverse; Collecting BDSM equipment and outfits is Ally's only recreational spending outlet, when Lisa asks Ally how much has been spent on all this stuff Ally refuses to answer. WordOfGod is that it's been ''forty grand.'' Alan even calls her on spending so much on this stuff in one strip.
** Ally had spent so much money on stuff that just sat in her closet that Alan actually cut her off and refused to sell her any more (at least until Lisa comes along and they start putting the numerous outfits to use).

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* CrackIsCheaper: InUniverse; Collecting BDSM equipment and outfits is Ally's only recreational spending outlet, when Lisa asks Ally how much has been spent on all this stuff Ally refuses to answer. WordOfGod is that it's been ''forty grand.'' Alan even calls her on spending so much on this stuff in one strip.
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strip. Ally had spent so much money on stuff that just sat in her closet that Alan actually cut her off and refused to sell her any more (at least until Lisa comes along and they start putting the numerous outfits to use).



* CuffsOffRubWrists: Explored through out the strip; normally the characters don't do this as the restraints are intended to be comfortable and avert this; but in the instances that things go wrong; such as when Alan was separated from Ally when she was tied up we see strong red marks on her body and Alan soothing the sore wrists.

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* CuffsOffRubWrists: CuffsOffRubWrists
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Explored through out the strip; normally the characters don't do this as the restraints are intended to be comfortable and avert this; but in the instances that things go wrong; such as when Alan was separated from Ally when she was tied up we see strong red marks on her body and Alan soothing the sore wrists.



* DeadpanSnarker: Alan, very much so. Overlaps with FirstPersonSmartass when he ''thinks'' of something snarky to say but decides against it.

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* DeadpanSnarker: DeadpanSnarker
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Alan, very much so. Overlaps with FirstPersonSmartass when he ''thinks'' of something snarky to say but decides against it.



* DeathGlare:

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* DeathGlare:DeathGlare



* {{Determinator}}: Anne, when it comes to seeing Alan crossdress. [[spoiler:She eventually succeeds, but the audience doesn't see the result.]]
** [[http://shiniez.deviantart.com/gallery/38157378#/d5qm332 And again, we never see the successful result.]]

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* {{Determinator}}: Anne, when it comes to seeing Alan crossdress. [[spoiler:She eventually succeeds, but the audience doesn't see the result.]]
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]] [[http://shiniez.deviantart.com/gallery/38157378#/d5qm332 And again, we never see the successful result.]]



* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: The comic used to be a collection of pin-up images consisting of Ally dominating Lisa and Anne. Many of these featured descriptions of Ally enslaving them and subjecting them to unsafe punishments, as might be expected of a pure fantasy scenario. Since deciding to write ''Sunstone'' as a serious story, the author removed most of the problematic strips...
** ...for them to later reappear [[DaydreamSurprise as fantasy sequences of main characters.]]

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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: The comic used to be a collection of pin-up images consisting of Ally dominating Lisa and Anne. Many of these featured descriptions of Ally enslaving them and subjecting them to unsafe punishments, as might be expected of a pure fantasy scenario. Since deciding to write ''Sunstone'' as a serious story, the author removed most of the problematic strips...
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strips...for them to later reappear [[DaydreamSurprise as fantasy sequences of main characters.]]



* {{Gayngst}}: Averted so far. For Ally and Lisa this is their first relationship with another woman. Lisa didn't consider herself to possibly be gay until the relationship developed past something physical into something romantic, but even so it obviously doesn't concern her due to the small amount of thought she has spared to the topic.

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* {{Gayngst}}: {{Gayngst}}
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Averted so far. For Ally and Lisa this is their first relationship with another woman. Lisa didn't consider herself to possibly be gay until the relationship developed past something physical into something romantic, but even so it obviously doesn't concern her due to the small amount of thought she has spared to the topic.



* GreenEyedMonster: Arises after Lisa decides to write a story for Anne that involves the trio in a threesome. It makes Ally think that Lisa only thinks of her as her Domme/friend, and Lisa gets a complex after a picture of Anne and Ally together gets a tremendously positive response online.

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* GreenEyedMonster: GreenEyedMonster
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Arises after Lisa decides to write a story for Anne that involves the trio in a threesome. It makes Ally think that Lisa only thinks of her as her Domme/friend, and Lisa gets a complex after a picture of Anne and Ally together gets a tremendously positive response online.



* IDidntMeanToTurnYouOn: Once Anne starts exploring Lisa's erotic writings (Most of which features an InkSuitActor of herself), her interactions with her new friend becomes understandably more complex, especially because, as a self described hobbyist Lisa is keen to bring up these topics with Anne as much as possible.

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* IDidntMeanToTurnYouOn: IDidntMeanToTurnYouOn
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Once Anne starts exploring Lisa's erotic writings (Most of which features an InkSuitActor of herself), her interactions with her new friend becomes understandably more complex, especially because, as a self described hobbyist Lisa is keen to bring up these topics with Anne as much as possible.



* InkSuitActor: In-universe; Lisa's characters in her online erotic writings are clearly based on her and Ally. This causes problems when Lisa decides the logical way to introduce her new friend Anne to the ideas of the scene is to link her to her bibliography. LoveTriangle tropes ensue.
** Gets even worse when Lisa explicitly writes Anne into the story
* InnerMonologue: As the framing device shows, the story is narrated by Lisa from five years in the future, but often the narrative assumes the perspective of present day Lisa and what she's thinking in the moment. Moreover we also witness the inner thoughts of other characters; an entire segment is narrated by Anne's internal thoughts while Lisa is completely absent and we sometimes see Alan internally wrestling over the best wisecrack to make, usually picking the wrong one.
** JustifiedTrope: Lisa got numerous, numerous interviews, getting the story from everyone.

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* InkSuitActor: In-universe; Lisa's characters in her online erotic writings are clearly based on her and Ally. This causes problems when Lisa decides the logical way to introduce her new friend Anne to the ideas of the scene is to link her to her bibliography. LoveTriangle tropes ensue. \n** Gets even worse when Lisa explicitly writes Anne into the story
story.
* InnerMonologue: As the framing device shows, the story is narrated by Lisa from five years in the future, but often the narrative assumes the perspective of present day Lisa and what she's thinking in the moment. Moreover we also witness the inner thoughts of other characters; an entire segment is narrated by Anne's internal thoughts while Lisa is completely absent and we sometimes see Alan internally wrestling over the best wisecrack to make, usually picking the wrong one.
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one. It's a JustifiedTrope: Lisa got numerous, numerous interviews, getting the story from everyone.



* LoveMakesYouDumb: This hit Marion hard; being new to the type of relationship she was sharing with Alan caused her to discard her better judgement in favor of doing everything she could to take things further, leading to a very bad situation.

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* LoveMakesYouDumb: LoveMakesYouDumb
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This hit Marion hard; being new to the type of relationship she was sharing with Alan caused her to discard her better judgement in favor of doing everything she could to take things further, leading to a very bad situation.



* TheMissusAndTheEx: [[DownplayedTrope Downplayed.]] The first time that Alan, Ally, and Lisa are in a room together, it's only a little awkward because the three were up all night. After some coffee and snarking, Alan and Lisa become friends in no time and it's never brought up again.

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* TheMissusAndTheEx: TheMissusAndTheEx
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[[DownplayedTrope Downplayed.]] The first time that Alan, Ally, and Lisa are in a room together, it's only a little awkward because the three were up all night. After some coffee and snarking, Alan and Lisa become friends in no time and it's never brought up again.



* NoPeriodsPeriod: Viciously averted; as Lisa is preparing to head to Ally's place to make up for five long and agonizing days away from her, her period hits at the worst possible time.
** And pops up later when its revealed that Lisa and Ally are now on the same cycle.

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* NoPeriodsPeriod: NoPeriodsPeriod
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Viciously averted; as Lisa is preparing to head to Ally's place to make up for five long and agonizing days away from her, her period hits at the worst possible time.
** And pops up later when its it's revealed that Lisa and Ally are now on the same cycle.



* OutOfOrder: Constantly in the strip's older days; the strips were posted in the order they were completed, not in the order of chronology or even in the order they were thought up. Expect to do some headscratching if you figure it out without the unofficial guide.

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* OutOfOrder: OutOfOrder
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Constantly in the strip's older days; the strips were posted in the order they were completed, not in the order of chronology or even in the order they were thought up. Expect to do some headscratching if you figure it out without the unofficial guide.



* PoorCommunicationKills: A relationship, as a combined result of CantSpitItOut and the GreenEyedMonster.
** The catalyst for this was Ally deciding to try her hand with rope-based bondage again, to form new, happy memories involving it. Afterward, a blissed out Lisa says "Thank you <3". She meant it wholeheartedly, as she knew how big an issue that was for Ally - but Ally heard it as "Thank you for finally obliging me on this". Bonus points for showing the thought-processes of both characters during this and a later miscommunication.

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* PoorCommunicationKills: A relationship, as a combined result of CantSpitItOut and the GreenEyedMonster.
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GreenEyedMonster. The catalyst for this was Ally deciding to try her hand with rope-based bondage again, to form new, happy memories involving it. Afterward, a blissed out Lisa says "Thank you <3". She meant it wholeheartedly, as she knew how big an issue that was for Ally - but Ally heard it as "Thank you for finally obliging me on this". Bonus points for showing the thought-processes of both characters during this and a later miscommunication.



* RealityEnsues: After having some fun with Lisa by using a strap-on, Ally comments that she has a newfound respect for guys as her non-existent abs will hurt like hell the next day. This is also quickly followed up by Lisa's tongue going numb from some more play.

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* RealityEnsues: RealityEnsues
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After having some fun with Lisa by using a strap-on, Ally comments that she has a newfound respect for guys as her non-existent abs will hurt like hell the next day. This is also quickly followed up by Lisa's tongue going numb from some more play.



* RecycledInSpace: It's ''PrideAndPrejudice'' but with '''hot lesbian bondage'''.

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* RecycledInSpace: It's ''PrideAndPrejudice'' ''Literature/PrideAndPrejudice'' but with '''hot lesbian bondage'''.



* RougeAnglesOfSatin: The dialogue is riddled with typos, which the author has [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded.]] The print comics are properly edited.
** Somewhat justified with English not being his first language.
* SafeSaneAndConsensual: Several strips show the work that Allison and Alan go through to make sure their girls are safe, both physically and mentally. EarlyInstallmentWeirdness made it seem less sane and consensual, though this is not uncommon for BDSM media in general where you often only see a session 'in the moment' without the careful setup and clear prior consent.

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* RougeAnglesOfSatin: The dialogue is riddled with typos, which the author has [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded.]] The print comics are properly edited.
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edited. Somewhat justified with English not being his first language.
* SafeSaneAndConsensual: SafeSaneAndConsensual
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Several strips show the work that Allison and Alan go through to make sure their girls are safe, both physically and mentally. EarlyInstallmentWeirdness made it seem less sane and consensual, though this is not uncommon for BDSM media in general where you often only see a session 'in the moment' without the careful setup and clear prior consent.



* SexyCoatFlashing: On her second night with Ally, Lisa pays a visit to her house wearing nothing but heels and lingerie under her coat, something she didn't really have the guts to do on the first night.

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* SexyCoatFlashing: SexyCoatFlashing
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On her second night with Ally, Lisa pays a visit to her house wearing nothing but heels and lingerie under her coat, something she didn't really have the guts to do on the first night.



* SharedUniverse: As the creators of ''Sunstone'' and ''Webcomic/BloodStain'', Stjepan Sejic and Linda Sejic, are married, not only does each artist draw each other's characters, but both webcomics are set in the same world. The events of each comic are isolated from each other most of the time, except for when the four main characters meet in an in-universe MMORPG, and several non-canon illustrations.
** As Linda Sejic confirms in [[http://sigeel.deviantart.com/art/elly-ally-354326120 this strip]] both comics will get a real crossover event in the future.

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* SharedUniverse: As the creators of ''Sunstone'' and ''Webcomic/BloodStain'', Stjepan Sejic and Linda Sejic, are married, not only does each artist draw each other's characters, but both webcomics are set in the same world. The events of each comic are isolated from each other most of the time, except for when the four main characters meet in an in-universe MMORPG, and several non-canon illustrations.
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illustrations. As Linda Sejic confirms in [[http://sigeel.deviantart.com/art/elly-ally-354326120 this strip]] both comics will get a real crossover event in the future.



** Another has Allison dressed as WonderWoman, roping Anne -- dressed as {{Supergirl}} -- and Lisa -- dressed as ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}.

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** Another has Allison dressed as WonderWoman, ComicBook/WonderWoman, roping Anne -- dressed as {{Supergirl}} ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} -- and Lisa -- dressed as ComicBook/{{Batgirl}}.



* TattooAsCharacterType: As one of the main characters is a tattoo artist there are a few examples of this;

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* TattooAsCharacterType: As one of the main characters is a tattoo artist there are a few examples of this;this.



* VitriolicBestBuds: Ally and Alan.

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* VitriolicBestBuds: VitriolicBestBuds
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Ally and Alan.
22nd Aug '16 11:10:38 PM Arivne
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* FanNickname: 'Cruella' for Marion - granted, that's what the characters nicknamed her too, but the fans used it from her very first picture before her real name was known. It's because of her two-tone hair, though, not her personality or anything regarding puppies or coats.



* OneOfUs: Pretty much all of the characters are gamers, and Lisa is an aspiring writer. Allison in particular is a colossal geek, and common fan speculation is that the room she won't let Lisa go into (bearing in mind that Lisa has already seen Ally's bedroom and dungeon) contains a crazy amount of fandom paraphernalia.
** The author too; the longest pauses between strips have generally been down to ''VideoGame/DiabloIII''.



* ShrugOfGod: The informal nature of the strip comments sections are a great place to seek informed and detailed answers from the author. When he's not being a smartass.
--> "''What is Anne's real hair colour?''"
--> "''who the hell knows XD, she seems to be sticking with blonde now''"
20th Aug '16 12:51:39 AM Koveras
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''[[http://shiniez.deviantart.com/gallery/ Sunstone]]'' is a slice-of-life, BDSM-centric webcomic about the various relationships of people in and around the fetish scene. It's written and drawn by Website/DeviantArt author Shiniez, a pen name of the Croatian comics artist [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stjepan_%C5%A0eji%C4%87 Stjepan Sejic]] of ''ComicBook/{{Ravine}}'', ''ComicBook/{{Witchblade}}'', and ''ComicBook/DeathVigil'' fame. Sejic is also known to the dA community as [[http://nebezial.deviantart.com/gallery/ Nebezial]] and is married to the artist and writer of the shared-universe webcomic ''Webcomic/BloodStain''.

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''[[http://shiniez.deviantart.com/gallery/ Sunstone]]'' is a slice-of-life, BDSM-centric webcomic about the various relationships of people in and around the fetish scene. It's written and drawn by Website/DeviantArt author Shiniez, a pen name of the Croatian comics artist [[http://en.[[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stjepan_%C5%A0eji%C4%87 org/wiki/Stjepan_Sejic Stjepan Sejic]] of ''ComicBook/{{Ravine}}'', ''ComicBook/{{Witchblade}}'', and ''ComicBook/DeathVigil'' fame. Sejic is also known to the dA community as [[http://nebezial.deviantart.com/gallery/ Nebezial]] and is married to the artist and writer of the shared-universe webcomic ''Webcomic/BloodStain''.
3rd Aug '16 9:19:24 PM bloodytears92
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** And of course, Lisa herself is a submissive woman, as is Marion.
14th May '16 4:12:12 AM Cifer
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* TheCameo: Lisa and Ally have a cameo appearance in the restaurant where [[DeathVigil Clara declares her love to Jon]].
14th May '16 4:04:37 AM Cifer
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* [[HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday Have I Mentioned I Am Vanilla Today]] Anna has this in spades; her growing curiosity with BDSM goes hand in hand with her attempts to assure everyone she has no interest in it. The same applies to her constantly inconsistent portrayal of her sexuality.

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* [[HaveIMentionedIAmHeterosexualToday Have I Mentioned I Am Vanilla Today]] Anna Anne has this in spades; her growing curiosity with BDSM goes hand in hand with her attempts to assure everyone she has no interest in it. The same applies to her constantly inconsistent portrayal of her sexuality.
* HeadTiltinglyKinky: A younger Lisa's reaction upon opening her brother's [[PornStash homework folder]] on their shared computer.



* SafeWord: The name of the comic comes from Ally's safeword, "sunstone", which she gives to all her subs, but most prominently Lisa. Alan's safeword, which Anne uses, is a three-note hum that can be used through a gag, though Marion's safeword with Alan was shown to be "mercy".

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* SafeWord: The name of the comic comes from Ally's safeword, "sunstone", "Sunstone", which she gives to all her subs, but most prominently Lisa. Alan's safeword, which Anne uses, After the story of Lisa and Ally is complete, future installments will be "Mercy" (Alan's safeword for Anne, though he also uses a three-note hum that can be used through a gag, though Marion's gag) and "Jaspith" (Marion's safeword with Alan was shown to be "mercy".for James).
13th May '16 9:27:55 AM Rday
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* MundaneMadeAwesome: Repairing Ally and Lisa's relationship starts with ''[[http://shiniez.deviantart.com/art/time-to-write-608733988 EPIC KNUCKLE CRACKING!]]''
5th May '16 7:35:25 PM Dravencour
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* JadeColoredGlasses: Alan is noticeably jaded about his lifestyle and how people view it after being tormented for it in college and having had a tragic failed Dominant/submissive relationship with Marion. The author has hinted that this was not all there is to it: [[spoiler:Following Marion's accident, Alan spent a night at the police precinct, where he was interrogated for four hours regarding "what he had done to Marion", long before he had actually found out what she had done. They were ready to throw him in jail if Abby hadn't come to pick him up and corroborated his story.]]

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* JadeColoredGlasses: Alan is noticeably jaded about his lifestyle and how people view it after being tormented for it in college and having had a tragic failed Dominant/submissive relationship with Marion. The author has hinted that this was not all there is to it: [[spoiler:Following Marion's accident, Alan spent a night at the police precinct, where he was interrogated for four hours regarding "what he had done to Marion", long before he had actually found out what she had done. They were ready to throw him in jail if Abby Ally hadn't come to pick him up and corroborated his story.]]
6th Apr '16 8:24:20 PM Qube
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* JadeColoredGlasses: Alan is noticeably jaded about his lifestyle and how people view it after being tormented for it in college and having had a tragic failed Dominant/submissive relationship with Marion. The auther has hinted that this was not all there is to it: [[spoiler:Following Marion's accident, Alan spent a night at the police precinct, where ''something'' happened that kicked him further into that direction.]]

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* JadeColoredGlasses: Alan is noticeably jaded about his lifestyle and how people view it after being tormented for it in college and having had a tragic failed Dominant/submissive relationship with Marion. The auther author has hinted that this was not all there is to it: [[spoiler:Following Marion's accident, Alan spent a night at the police precinct, where ''something'' happened that kicked he was interrogated for four hours regarding "what he had done to Marion", long before he had actually found out what she had done. They were ready to throw him further into that direction.in jail if Abby hadn't come to pick him up and corroborated his story.]]
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