History Webcomic / Outsider

17th Jan '16 5:06:03 PM nombretomado
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* [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe Blue-Skinned Space Babe]]: The Loroi, and ''how''. The author says in the FAQ that they're intended as a "homage to the 'Space Amazon' archetype", citing ''VideoGame/MasterOfOrion'', ''StarControl'', and ''Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamato'' as examples. MOO 2 in particular is the source of inspiration for everything from names to uniform color schema to ''hairstyles.''

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* [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe Blue-Skinned Space Babe]]: The Loroi, and ''how''. The author says in the FAQ that they're intended as a "homage to the 'Space Amazon' archetype", citing ''VideoGame/MasterOfOrion'', ''StarControl'', ''VideoGame/StarControl'', and ''Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamato'' as examples. MOO 2 in particular is the source of inspiration for everything from names to uniform color schema to ''hairstyles.''
31st Dec '15 9:26:33 AM Willbyr
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* [[EverybodysDeadDave Everybody's Dead, Alex]]: Which leaves him with the unenviable task of attempting to gather intel/conduct diplomacy with potentially hostile aliens on behalf of the entire human species.

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* [[EverybodysDeadDave Everybody's Dead, Alex]]: Which leaves Jardin was the only survivor of the ''Bellarmine'', leaving him with the unenviable task of attempting to gather intel/conduct diplomacy with potentially hostile aliens on behalf of the entire human species.



* MindRape: When the Loroi attempt to forcefully mind-probe Jardin for information. Fortunately, a combination of him blacking out and the supposed unique human trait of telepathic immunity spare him from anything nasty.

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* MindRape: When the The Loroi attempt to forcefully mind-probe Jardin for information. Fortunately, a combination of him blacking out and the supposed unique human trait of telepathic immunity spare him from anything nasty.



* MsFanservice: None in the main story as of yet, but Beryl and Fireblade are the ones who are drawn most in the fanservice-y pinups in the extras page of the the comic's website.
* NeutralityBacklash: Not choosing a side in the war invites hostility from both sides. The Loroi mindset is spelled out in chapter 1 - "if you're our ally, you're duty-bound to aid us."

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* MsFanservice: None in the main story as of yet, but Beryl and Fireblade are the ones who are drawn most in the fanservice-y pinups in the extras page of the the comic's website.
* NeutralityBacklash: Not choosing a side in the war invites hostility from both sides. The Loroi mindset is spelled out in chapter 1 - "if you're our ally, you're duty-bound to aid us."" Tempo later explains that this comes from having several supposedly neutral nations turn on them in the past, combined with the Umiak's constant expansion.
-->You may choose to be friendly with the Loroi or with the Hierarchy, but it is no longer possible for any nation to be friendly with both. [...] Those who do not actively oppose the enemy will inevitably end as their servants, one way or the other.



* NothingButSkulls: A legendary warrior stands on them, in a mosaic.

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* NothingButSkulls: A Jardin sees a mosaic on the ''Tempest'' showing a legendary warrior stands standing on them, in a mosaic.pile of skulls.



** Alex eats alien food on the Tempest... and starts getting increasingly bad indigestion, harshly averting NoBiochemicalBarriers. The cover art for Chapter 2 makes this clear with the list beside Jardin, noting his bad reactions to the foods he's tried, including one that made him throw up.

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** Alex eats alien food on the Tempest...''Tempest''... and starts getting increasingly bad indigestion, harshly averting NoBiochemicalBarriers. The cover art for Chapter 2 makes this clear with the list beside Jardin, noting his bad reactions to the foods he's tried, including one that made him throw up.



* TranslationConvention: Explicitly used: aboard ''Tempest''. Jardin and his Loroi interlocutors speak in the Loroi Trade Language, though the meanings of some unfamiliar words do get past him now and then.

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* TranslationConvention: Explicitly used: aboard ''Tempest''. used. Jardin and his Loroi interlocutors speak in the Loroi Trade Language, though the meanings of some unfamiliar words do get past him now and then.
1st Dec '15 9:30:48 PM Willbyr
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[[caption-width-right:250:Clockwise from bottom: Alex Jardin, Tempo, Beryl, and Fireblade.]]
1st Dec '15 9:29:29 PM Willbyr
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* GeneralRipper: Stillstorm's behavior suggests she may be in the early stages of this. Certainly she wanted ''answers'' from Jardin and wasn't too fussy about [[MindProbe how she got them]]. Later on, it's mentioned that officers frequently rotate off Stillstorm's ship to keep from having to serve under her for too long.

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* GeneralRipper: Stillstorm's behavior suggests she may be in the early stages of this. Certainly she wanted ''answers'' from Jardin and wasn't too fussy about [[MindProbe how she got them]]. them]], and seemed about to say that she would have done worse if she hadn't been interrupted. Later on, it's mentioned that officers frequently rotate off Beryl gives a bit more detail about Stillstorm's ship unpleasantness and says she's happy to keep be away from having to serve under her.
-->'''Beryl''': Well, the commander sometimes gets...''tired'' of looking at some of
her for too long.officers. When this happens, it is beneficial to be out of her line of sight as quickly as possible.\\
'''Jardin''': I see. I had a commander like that once.



* TheRedBaron: Kikitik-27 is known to the Loroi as "The Stray." It has the distinction of being one of the few Umiak commanders known to have survived an [[WeHaveReserves attrition]] [[ZergRush assault]] mission, and it has done so at least twice. In both cases Kikitik inflicted heavy losses on the Loroi defenders, and then withdrew its forces from combat (relatively intact) when Loroi reinforcements arrived.



* RealityEnsues: In regards to a lot of sci-fi tropes:
** Not only are there numerous language barriers between the various races (especially humans) but it's explicitly noted that pretty much all dialogue not between humans is in a CommonTongue, averting AliensSpeakingEnglish. Some of the alien races can't even speak the CommonTongue, relying on translation devices to get their point across to other beings.
** Alex eats alien food on the Tempest... and starts getting increasingly bad indigestion, harshly averting NoBiochemicalBarriers. The cover art for Chapter 2 makes this clear with the list beside Jardin, noting his bad reactions to the foods he's tried, including one that made him throw up.
** There's no [[SpaceIsNoisy sound]] during space sequences, and space physics in general are adhered to strongly.
** WordOfGod notes that despite their bizarrely similar genetic and body structure, humans and Loroi can't interbreed, so there's no ''Franchise/StarTrek''-esque HalfHumanHybrid.
* RubberForeheadAliens: Both largely averted and deconstructed. Loroi look just like humans, except for the pointy ears, blue skin tones, odd eye colors, and their males being smaller than the females. This similarity is noted as a significant abnormality by everyone, considering that the rest of the races go from notably physiologically different to StarfishAliens. The fact that humans are also the only race that are resistant to the Loroi's psychic powers implies that this may be far more than mere coincidence. However, when pressed on this by Tempo, Jardin argues that it would be extremely stupid for the Umiak to create a mole that sticks out like a sore thumb as much as he does.



* TheSilentBob: [[ZigZaggingTrope Zig-zagged in-universe.]] Most Loroi rely on their ''sanzai'' ability for normal conversation and speak aloud only in unusual circumstances, but their facial tics, body language, and actions are often quite vocal in themselves. However, Beryl explains to Jardin during the battle that with everything going on, vocal communication is more efficient than ''sanzai'', and ''sanzai'''s limited range makes vocal communication between ships necessary. Later on, Tempo notes that the Mizol caste is trained in spoken language and negotiation, to better serve their diplomatic function.



* SuperSoldier:
** The Loroi use a special warrior caste, the Teidar (Unsheathed), who have lethal telekinesis.
** Umiak use specially bred and cybernetically enhanced warriors called Hardtroops.
* SpaceIsAnOcean: Mostly averted, as the ''Outsider'' universe follows actual space physics rather closely. However, WordOfGod acknowledges that some aspects of space physics were ignored in favor of RuleOfCool, and human ship names and ranks are naval in nature.



* SpaceIsAnOcean: Mostly averted, as the ''Outsider'' universe follows actual space physics rather closely. However, WordOfGod acknowledges that some aspects of space physics were ignored in favor of RuleOfCool, and human ship names and ranks are naval in nature.
* TheSpartanWay: The way the Loroi raise members of any of their military caste--dumping them in the woods with bows and spears to learn proper warrior values/survival skills.



* StupidEvil: Some of the actions of both the Loroi and the Umiak come off as this, or at least needlessly antagonistic. Notably, when Kikitik-27 offers a peaceful solution to a confrontation that gives everyone what they want, Stillstorm's reaction is [[{{Jerkass}} to laugh at him and blow up the wreckage that Kikitik wants just to spite him]].
* SuperSoldier:
** The Loroi use a special warrior caste, the Teidar (Unsheathed), who have lethal telekinesis.
** Umiak use specially bred and cybernetically enhanced warriors called Hardtroops.



* TheSpartanWay: The way the Loroi raise members of any of their military caste--dumping them in the woods with bows and spears to learn proper warrior values/survival skills.
* TheRedBaron: Kikitik-27 is known to the Loroi as "The Stray." It has the distinction of being one of the few Umiak commanders known to have survived an [[WeHaveReserves attrition]] [[ZergRush assault]] mission, and it has done so at least twice. In both cases Kikitik inflicted heavy losses on the Loroi defenders, and then withdrew its forces from combat (relatively intact) when Loroi reinforcements arrived.
* RealityEnsues: In regards to a lot of sci-fi tropes:
** Not only are there numerous language barriers between the various races (especially humans) but it's explicitly noted that pretty much all dialogue not between humans is in a CommonTongue, averting AliensSpeakingEnglish. Some of the alien races can't even speak the CommonTongue, relying on translation devices to get their point across to other beings.
** Alex eats alien food on the Tempest... and starts getting increasingly bad indigestion, harshly averting NoBiochemicalBarriers. The cover art for Chapter 2 makes this clear with the list beside Jardin, noting his bad reactions to the foods he's tried, including one that made him throw up.
** There's no [[SpaceIsNoisy sound]] during space sequences, and space physics in general are adhered to strongly.
** WordOfGod notes that despite their bizarrely similar genetic and body structure, humans and Loroi can't interbreed, so there's no ''Franchise/StarTrek''-esque HalfHumanHybrid.
* RubberForeheadAliens: Both largely averted and deconstructed. Loroi look just like humans, except for the pointy ears, blue skin tones, and their males being smaller than the females. This similarity is noted as a significant abnormality by everyone, considering that the rest of the races go from notably physiologically different to StarfishAliens. The fact that humans are also the only race that are resistant to the Loroi's psychic powers implies that this may be far more than mere coincidence. However, when pressed on this by Tempo, Jardin argues that it would be extremely stupid for the Umiak to create a mole that sticks out like a sore thumb as much as he does.
* TheSilentBob: Most Loroi rely on their ''sanzai'' ability and speak aloud only in unusual circumstances, but their facial tics, body language, and actions are often quite vocal in themselves, However, Beryl explains to Jardin during the battle that with everything going on, vocal communication is more efficient than ''sanzai'', and ''sanzai'''s limited range makes vocal communication between ships necessary. Later on, Tempo notes that the Mizol caste is trained in spoken language and negotiation, to better serve their diplomatic function.
* StupidEvil: Some of the actions of both the Loroi and the Umiak come off as this, or at least needlessly antagonistic. Notably, when Kikitik-27 offers a peaceful solution to a confrontation that gives everyone what they want, Stillstorm's reaction is [[{{Jerkass}} to laugh at him and blow up the wreckage that Kikitik wants just to spite him]].



* TranslatorMicrobes: Averted as the characters speak a CommonTongue and the TranslationConvention is in effect. When a translation system is finally seen in action during an enemy Umiak commander's transmission, it can only manage translations that're basically really long run-on sentences. Sort of like an alien Babelfish.

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* TranslatorMicrobes: Averted as the characters speak a CommonTongue and the TranslationConvention is in effect. When a translation system is finally seen in action during an enemy Umiak commander's transmission, it can only manage translations that're that are basically really long run-on sentences. Sort of like an alien Babelfish.
1st Dec '15 1:40:38 PM Willbyr
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* RubberForeheadAliens: Both largely averted and deconstructed. Loroi look just like humans, except for the pointy ears, blue skin tones, and their males being smaller than the females. This similarity is noted as a significant abnormality by everyone, considering that the rest of the races go from notably physiologically different to StarfishAliens. The fact that humans are also the only race that are resistant to the Loroi's psychic powers implies that this may be far more than mere coincidence. However, when pressed on this, Jardin argues that it would be extremely stupid for the Umiak to create a mole that sticks out like a sore thumb as much as he does and expect subterfuge to actually succeed.
* TheSilentBob: Most Loroi rely on their ''sanzai'' ability and speak aloud only in unusual circumstances. However, their facial tics, body language, and actions are often quite vocal in themselves, and Beryl explains to Jardin during the battle that with everything going on, vocal communication is more efficient than ''sanzai''.

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* RubberForeheadAliens: Both largely averted and deconstructed. Loroi look just like humans, except for the pointy ears, blue skin tones, and their males being smaller than the females. This similarity is noted as a significant abnormality by everyone, considering that the rest of the races go from notably physiologically different to StarfishAliens. The fact that humans are also the only race that are resistant to the Loroi's psychic powers implies that this may be far more than mere coincidence. However, when pressed on this, this by Tempo, Jardin argues that it would be extremely stupid for the Umiak to create a mole that sticks out like a sore thumb as much as he does and expect subterfuge to actually succeed.
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* TheSilentBob: Most Loroi rely on their ''sanzai'' ability and speak aloud only in unusual circumstances. However, circumstances, but their facial tics, body language, and actions are often quite vocal in themselves, and themselves, However, Beryl explains to Jardin during the battle that with everything going on, vocal communication is more efficient than ''sanzai''.''sanzai'', and ''sanzai'''s limited range makes vocal communication between ships necessary. Later on, Tempo notes that the Mizol caste is trained in spoken language and negotiation, to better serve their diplomatic function.
1st Dec '15 1:23:38 PM Willbyr
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* PhotographicMemory: A property of the Loroi's Listel caste, according to Beryl. She tells Jardin that she can recall every word he's said since they first met.
4th Nov '15 6:47:41 AM Willbyr
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* GeneralRipper: Stillstorm's behavior suggests she may be in the early stages of this. Certainly she wanted ''answers'' from Jardin and wasn't too fussy about [[MindProbe how she got them]].

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* GeneralRipper: Stillstorm's behavior suggests she may be in the early stages of this. Certainly she wanted ''answers'' from Jardin and wasn't too fussy about [[MindProbe how she got them]]. Later on, it's mentioned that officers frequently rotate off Stillstorm's ship to keep from having to serve under her for too long.



* GlassCannon: Loroi warships have tremendous ranged firepower compared to the Umiak, but aren't as robust.

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* * GlassCannon: Loroi warships have tremendous ranged firepower compared to the Umiak, but aren't as robust.



* StarfishLanguage: The Umiak language is based on tone rather than words, so it's literally impossible to for others to understand without a translator...and even that's a bit lacking.

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* StarfishLanguage: The Umiak language is based on tone rather than words, so it's literally impossible to for others to understand without a translator...and even that's a bit lacking.



** Not only are there numerous language barriers between the various races (especially humans) but it's explicitly noted that pretty much all dialogue not between humans is in a CommonTongue, averting AliensSpeakingEnglish. And some of the alien races can't even speak the CommonTongue, relying on translation devices to get their point across to other beings.

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** Not only are there numerous language barriers between the various races (especially humans) but it's explicitly noted that pretty much all dialogue not between humans is in a CommonTongue, averting AliensSpeakingEnglish. And some Some of the alien races can't even speak the CommonTongue, relying on translation devices to get their point across to other beings.



** WordOfGod notes that despite their bizarrely similar genetic and body structure humans and Loroi can't interbreed, so there's no ''Franchise/StarTrek''-esque HalfHumanHybrid.
* RubberForeheadAliens: Both largely averted and deconstructed. Loroi look just like humans, except for the pointy ears and blue skin tones (plus the fact that their males are smaller than the females). This similarity is noted as a significant abnormality by everyone, considering that the rest of the races go from notably physiologically different to StarFishAliens. The fact that humans are also the only race that are resistant to the Loroi's psychic powers implies that this may be far more than mere coincidence...

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** WordOfGod notes that despite their bizarrely similar genetic and body structure structure, humans and Loroi can't interbreed, so there's no ''Franchise/StarTrek''-esque HalfHumanHybrid.
* RubberForeheadAliens: Both largely averted and deconstructed. Loroi look just like humans, except for the pointy ears and ears, blue skin tones (plus the fact that tones, and their males are being smaller than the females). females. This similarity is noted as a significant abnormality by everyone, considering that the rest of the races go from notably physiologically different to StarFishAliens. StarfishAliens. The fact that humans are also the only race that are resistant to the Loroi's psychic powers implies that this may be far more than mere coincidence...coincidence. However, when pressed on this, Jardin argues that it would be extremely stupid for the Umiak to create a mole that sticks out like a sore thumb as much as he does and expect subterfuge to actually succeed.
* TheSilentBob: Most Loroi rely on their ''sanzai'' ability and speak aloud only in unusual circumstances. However, their facial tics, body language, and actions are often quite vocal in themselves, and Beryl explains to Jardin during the battle that with everything going on, vocal communication is more efficient than ''sanzai''.



* TheVoiceless: Most Loroi rely on their ''sanzai'' ability and speak aloud only in unusual circumstances. However, their facial tics, body language, and actions are often quite vocal in themselves, and Beryl explains to Jardin during the battle that with everything going on, vocal communication is more efficient than ''sanzai''.
* TinyGuyHugeGirl: The entire Loroi species. The average Loroi female is 170cm (5'7) in height. Even tall males rarely go over five feet, with most being far below that. ([[WordOfGod although apparently they're more even size wise with human males in...other areas]]). Due to their small size and only representing 10% of the population, the males are viewed as a weaker sex in need of protection by the Loroi AmazonBrigade.
* TranslationConvention: Explicitly used: aboard ''Tempest'', Jardin and his Loroi interlocutors actually speak in the Loroi Trade Language, though the meanings of some unfamiliar words do get past him now and then.

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* TheVoiceless: Most Loroi rely on their ''sanzai'' ability and speak aloud only in unusual circumstances. However, their facial tics, body language, and actions are often quite vocal in themselves, and Beryl explains to Jardin during the battle that with everything going on, vocal communication is more efficient than ''sanzai''.
* TinyGuyHugeGirl: The entire Loroi species. The average Loroi female is 170cm (5'7) (5'7") in height. Even tall males rarely go over five feet, with most being far below that. ([[WordOfGod although apparently they're more even size wise with human males in...other areas]]). Due to their small size and only representing 10% of the population, the males are viewed as a weaker sex in need of protection by the Loroi AmazonBrigade.
* TranslationConvention: Explicitly used: aboard ''Tempest'', ''Tempest''. Jardin and his Loroi interlocutors actually speak in the Loroi Trade Language, though the meanings of some unfamiliar words do get past him now and then.



* YouGottaHaveBlueHair: The Loroi have a wide color pallet of hair colors.

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* YouGottaHaveBlueHair: The Loroi have a wide color pallet range of hair colors.
4th Nov '15 6:31:14 AM Willbyr
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* [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe Blue-Skinned Space Babe]]: The Loroi, and ''how''. The author says in the FAQ that they're intended as a "homage to the 'Space Amazon' archetype", citing ''VideoGame/MasterOfOrion'', ''StarControl'', and ''UchuuSenkanYamato'' as examples. MOO 2 in particular is the source of inspiration for everything from names to uniform color schema to ''hairstyles.''

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* [[GreenSkinnedSpaceBabe Blue-Skinned Space Babe]]: The Loroi, and ''how''. The author says in the FAQ that they're intended as a "homage to the 'Space Amazon' archetype", citing ''VideoGame/MasterOfOrion'', ''StarControl'', and ''UchuuSenkanYamato'' ''Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamato'' as examples. MOO 2 in particular is the source of inspiration for everything from names to uniform color schema to ''hairstyles.''
28th Aug '15 11:51:19 AM HighCrate
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* DeadpanSnarker: Jardin's sense of humour is quite active, but a liability he can't afford to voice aboard ''Tempest''.

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* DeadpanSnarker: Jardin's sense of humour humor is quite active, but a liability he can't afford to voice aboard ''Tempest''.



* FragileSpeedster / GlassCannon: Loroi warships are very fast and have tremendous ranged firepower compared to the Umiak, but aren't as robust.

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* FragileSpeedster / GlassCannon: FragileSpeedster: Loroi warships are very fast and have tremendous ranged firepower compared to the Umiak, but aren't as robust.



* GlassCannon: Loroi warships have tremendous ranged firepower compared to the Umiak, but aren't as robust.



* ShownTheirWork: The ''Outsider''-verse follows realistic space physics very well, with very little RuleOfCool or SpaceIsAnOcean behavior. There's also a lot of work shown regarding biology.

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* ShownTheirWork: ShowingTheirWork: The ''Outsider''-verse follows realistic space physics very well, with very little RuleOfCool or SpaceIsAnOcean behavior. There's also a lot of work shown regarding biology.



* SpaceIsAnOcean: Mostly averted, as the ''Outsider'' universe follows actual space physics rather closely. However, WordOfGod acknowledges that some aspects of space physics were ignored in favour of RuleOfCool, and human ship names and ranks are naval in nature.

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* SpaceIsAnOcean: Mostly averted, as the ''Outsider'' universe follows actual space physics rather closely. However, WordOfGod acknowledges that some aspects of space physics were ignored in favour favor of RuleOfCool, and human ship names and ranks are naval in nature.
1st Jul '15 4:49:40 PM ryanasaurus0077
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* BeamSpam: [[http://www.well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider077.html As shown here]] by the Loroi. Apparently [[http://www.well-of-souls.com/outsider/weapon_profiles.html most long-range offensive weapons are beam weapons]], though the Umiak have shorter ranges on their beams.

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* BeamSpam: [[http://www.well-of-souls.com/outsider/outsider077.html As shown here]] by the Loroi. Apparently [[http://www.well-of-souls.com/outsider/weapon_profiles.html most long-range offensive weapons are beam weapons]], though the Umiak have shorter ranges on their beams.beams and prefer the MacrossMissileMassacre method.



* BlackAndGrayMorality:
** A ''big'' problem for humanity in deciding which faction to join: the Umiak are imperialistic and enslave everybody in sight to feed their demand for ships and munitions, while the Loroi have twice committed ''[[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill xenocide]]'' against neutral or Umiak-aligned species.
** This applies to humanity as well. Jardin specifies in his monologue that humanity is not looking for the side which shares or acts most accordingly with human values, rather the side which is most likely to win since aligning with the loser will almost certainly result in extinction.

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* BlackAndGrayMorality:
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BlackAndGrayMorality: A ''big'' problem for humanity in deciding which faction to join: the Umiak are imperialistic and enslave everybody in sight to feed their demand for ships and munitions, while the Loroi have twice committed ''[[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill xenocide]]'' against neutral or Umiak-aligned species.
** This
species.[[note]]This applies to humanity as well. Jardin specifies in his monologue that humanity is not looking for the side which shares or acts most accordingly with human values, rather the side which is most likely to win since aligning with the loser will almost certainly result in extinction.[[/note]]



* SpaceElves: The Loroi are Type I. Jardin even refers to them as elves at one point (in his inner monologue, fortunately).

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* SpaceElves: The Loroi are Type I. [[note]]Bonus points because Jardin even refers to them as elves at one point (in his inner monologue, fortunately).[[/note]]
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