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2nd Feb '18 7:31:21 PM superkeijikun
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** ''Manga/MobileSuitGundamThunderbolt'', being a seinen ''Gundam'' series, is unabashed in its depiction of war as a dehumanizing experience. [[spoiler:From the Federation sending a platoon of ChildSoldiers to their deaths, to Zeon forcing soldiers to sacrifice their bodies and scientists to sacrifice their souls, no one in the One Year War walks away unscathed.]]
10th Dec '17 11:35:41 PM Zazie122
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* Persistently present in ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', especially in scenes before and after various battles where soldiers are seen to break down in terror or struggle to not flee. A somewhat unusual example, as the conflict in the series isnt a war in the usual sense, but more a fight for survival against a mindless predator. Most Titans arent sentient, and [[spoiler: it's been revealed that they're actually transformed humans, created by an unidentified Big Bad]]. What makes it even worse is that fighting a Titan is not like fighting a superior human force, Titan's are incredibly difficult to kill, and can only be killed by severing their neck.
** Made even worse when we learn the truth [[spoiler: Titans are people forcibly transformed as punishment. The people doing so regularly use child soldiers on the battlefield. We see numerous shots of Soldiers coming home from the frontlines with their minds shattered and suffering PTSD. Even worse is being on the receiving end of a Titan airdrop. Having to watch your comrades be devoured by Titans.))

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* Persistently present in ''Manga/AttackOnTitan'', especially in scenes before and after various battles where soldiers are seen to break down in terror or struggle to not flee. A somewhat unusual example, as the conflict in the series isnt isn't a war in the usual sense, but more a fight for survival against a mindless predator. Most Titans arent aren't sentient, and [[spoiler: it's been revealed that they're actually transformed humans, created by an unidentified Big Bad]]. humans]]. What makes it even worse is that fighting a Titan is not like fighting a superior human force, Titan's Titans are incredibly difficult to kill, and can only be killed by severing their neck.
** Made even worse when we learn the truth truth: [[spoiler: Titans are people forcibly transformed as punishment. The people doing so regularly use child soldiers ChildSoldiers on the battlefield. We see numerous shots of Soldiers soldiers coming home from the frontlines front lines with [[ShellShockedVeteran their minds shattered shattered]] and suffering from PTSD. Even worse is being on the receiving end of a Titan airdrop. Having airdrop, where you are forced to watch your comrades be devoured by Titans.))]]
** Turns out that [[spoiler:there is a regular ol' war going on, and it has been for millennia: the Marley vs. Eldia conflict, in which both nations are constantly fighting for total control over the powers of the Nine Titans. Each "side" blames the other for everything. Then you have the Eldians on Paradis Island, where the main characters live, who are on their own side, as even the Eldians on the continent hate them and see them as "devils".]]
** At one point, [[spoiler:Zeke Yeager, the Beast Titan]] utters this trope almost word for word: "War... is never a good thing."
11th Sep '17 12:31:59 PM Jaloson
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**Made even worse when we learn the truth [[spoiler: Titans are people forcibly transformed as punishment. The people doing so regularly use child soldiers on the battlefield. We see numerous shots of Soldiers coming home from the frontlines with their minds shattered and suffering PTSD. Even worse is being on the receiving end of a Titan airdrop. Having to watch your comrades be devoured by Titans.))
31st Aug '17 7:13:53 AM Doug86
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* ''Anime/FutureWar198X'' shows the effects of WorldWarIII on the soldiers, civilians, and the powers behind each country fighting, shattering Japan's NuclearWeaponsTaboo and getting SpaceBattleshipYamato's director's message across loud and clear: [[{{Anvilicious}} nuclear weapons and war are bad.]]

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* ''Anime/FutureWar198X'' shows the effects of WorldWarIII on the soldiers, civilians, and the powers behind each country fighting, shattering Japan's NuclearWeaponsTaboo and getting SpaceBattleshipYamato's Anime/SpaceBattleshipYamato's director's message across loud and clear: [[{{Anvilicious}} nuclear weapons and war are bad.]]
30th Aug '17 12:21:20 PM DinoCam1795
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*** Despite that however, it did not fully achieved the objective as it glamorized the actions of Tekkadan as their enemies were often portrayed as one dimensional [[CardCarryingVillain villains]] who deserved to be brutally killed. This was taken notice of in Season 2 where Orga and Tekkadan embark in a conflict against the Arianhod fleet that cost them everything. [[spoiler: Starting with the Earth Branch, then Mika's hopes of ever having a peaceful civilian life in his attempt to destroy the Hashmal. This climaxes with the deaths of Naze, Lafter and Amida during a power play by Jasley that ends with a RoaringRampageOfRevenge that achieves little and has Tekkadan cut off by the Teiwaz as they head in to an unplanned coup led {{McGillis}} that ends in their defeat and ultimately the death of Orga and many members of his organization, Shino, Mika, Hush and Akihiro included among the dead. {{McGillis}} himself when he makes a final charge at the Arianhod in a futile act of defiance. Tekkadan forever tainted as a villanous organization by the BigBad Rustal who was unpunished for his crimes.]] The compromise they have to make would have a terrible effect on the more innocent members of the cast, [[spoiler: Ride became a terrorist bent on continuing Orga's vision with the younger survivors and Almiria, perhaps the only innocent soul in the series is driven insane from the loss of her husband to be.]]

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*** Despite that however, it did not fully achieved the objective as it glamorized the actions of Tekkadan as their enemies were often portrayed as one dimensional [[CardCarryingVillain villains]] who deserved to be brutally killed. This was taken notice of in Season 2 where Orga and Tekkadan embark in a conflict against the Arianhod fleet that cost them everything. [[spoiler: Starting with the Earth Branch, then Mika's hopes of ever having a peaceful civilian life in his attempt to destroy the Hashmal. This climaxes with the deaths of Naze, Lafter and Amida during a power play by Jasley that ends with a RoaringRampageOfRevenge that achieves little and has Tekkadan cut off by the Teiwaz as they head in to an unplanned coup led {{McGillis}} [=McGillis=] that ends in their defeat and ultimately the death of Orga and many members of his organization, Shino, Mika, Hush and Akihiro included among the dead. {{McGillis}} [=McGillis=] himself when he makes a final charge at the Arianhod in a futile act of defiance. Tekkadan forever tainted as a villanous organization by the BigBad Rustal who was unpunished for his crimes.]] The compromise they have to make would have a terrible effect on the more innocent members of the cast, [[spoiler: Ride became a terrorist bent on continuing Orga's vision with the younger survivors and Almiria, perhaps the only innocent soul in the series is driven insane from the loss of her husband to be.]]
30th Aug '17 12:20:04 PM DinoCam1795
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*** Despite that however, it did not fully achieved the objective as it glamorized the actions of Tekkadan as their enemies were often portrayed as one dimensional [[CardCarryingVillain villains]] who deserved to be brutally killed. This was taken notice of in Season 2 where Orga and Tekkadan embark in a conflict against the Arianhod fleet that cost them everything. [[spoiler: Starting with the Earth Branch, then Mika's hopes of ever having a peaceful civilian life in his attempt to destroy the Hashmal. This climaxes with the deaths of Naze, Lafter and Amida during a power play by Jasley that ends with a RoaringRampageOfRevenge that achieves little and has Tekkadan cut off by the Teiwaz as they head in to an unplanned coup led McGillis that ends in their defeat and ultimately the death of Orga and many members of his organization, Shino, Mika, Hush and Akihiro included among the dead. McGillis himself when he makes a final charge at the Arianhod in a futile act of defiance. Tekkadan forever tainted as a villanous organization by the BigBad Rustal who was unpunished for his crimes.]] The compromise they have to make would have a terrible effect on the more innocent members of the cast, [[spoiler: Ride became a terrorist bent on continuing Orga's vision with the younger survivors and Almiria, perhaps the only innocent soul in the series is driven insane from the loss of her husband to be.]]

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*** Despite that however, it did not fully achieved the objective as it glamorized the actions of Tekkadan as their enemies were often portrayed as one dimensional [[CardCarryingVillain villains]] who deserved to be brutally killed. This was taken notice of in Season 2 where Orga and Tekkadan embark in a conflict against the Arianhod fleet that cost them everything. [[spoiler: Starting with the Earth Branch, then Mika's hopes of ever having a peaceful civilian life in his attempt to destroy the Hashmal. This climaxes with the deaths of Naze, Lafter and Amida during a power play by Jasley that ends with a RoaringRampageOfRevenge that achieves little and has Tekkadan cut off by the Teiwaz as they head in to an unplanned coup led McGillis {{McGillis}} that ends in their defeat and ultimately the death of Orga and many members of his organization, Shino, Mika, Hush and Akihiro included among the dead. McGillis {{McGillis}} himself when he makes a final charge at the Arianhod in a futile act of defiance. Tekkadan forever tainted as a villanous organization by the BigBad Rustal who was unpunished for his crimes.]] The compromise they have to make would have a terrible effect on the more innocent members of the cast, [[spoiler: Ride became a terrorist bent on continuing Orga's vision with the younger survivors and Almiria, perhaps the only innocent soul in the series is driven insane from the loss of her husband to be.]]



* The Ishval Massacre in ''Manga/FullmetalAlchemist'' is wall to wall bodies; the Ishvalans are either being massacred or are killing the Amestrians in a last ditch effort to survive. By the end of the flashback everyone is left traumatized, and most of the rest are AxCrazy to begin with.
25th Aug '17 5:52:44 PM mlsmithca
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** The idea of a four year tournament in ''Anime/MobileFighterGGundam'' would seem to imply that such tournaments are a preferred alternative to full scale warfare. Then again [[{{YMMV}} Your Mileage May Vary.]]

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** The idea of a four year tournament in ''Anime/MobileFighterGGundam'' would seem to imply that such tournaments are a preferred alternative to full scale warfare. Then again [[{{YMMV}} Your Mileage May Vary.]]
25th Aug '17 6:32:57 AM R.G.
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** The idea of a four year tournament in ''Anime/MobileFighterGGundam'' would seem to imply that such tournaments are a preferred alternative to full-scale warfare. Then again, [[{{YMMV}} Your Mileage May Vary.]]


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** The idea of a four year tournament in ''Anime/MobileFighterGGundam'' would seem to imply that such tournaments are a preferred alternative to full scale warfare. Then again [[{{YMMV}} Your Mileage May Vary.]]
25th Aug '17 6:28:22 AM R.G.
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** The idea of a four year tournament in ''Anime/MobileFighterGGundam'' would seem to imply that such tournaments are a preferred alternative to full-scale warfare. Then again, [[{{YMMV}} Your Mileage May Vary.]]
18th Jul '17 10:00:11 PM NoNamesEver
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** ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'' seems to be attempting to eclipse Tomino's darker works, with such acts ranging from forcing child slaves to fight, to having a stand in for the Titans, Gjallarhorn, [[spoiler: set up circumstances that will allow them to justify having to massacre protesting colonists]]. In particular, the Brewers arc of the anime has received a fair number of comparisons to ''Film/BeastsOfNoNation'' by some internet commentators.
*** Despite that however, it did not fully acheived the objective as it glamorized the actions of Tekkadan as their enemies were often portrayed as one dimensional [[CardCarryingVillain villains]] who deserved to be brutally killed. This was taken notice of in Season 2 where Orga and Tekkadan embark in a conflict against the Arianhod fleet that cost them everything. [[spoiler: Starting with the Earth Branch, then Mika's hopes of ever having a peaceful civlian life in his attempt to destroy the Hashmal. This climaxes with the death of Naze, Lafter and Amida during a power play by Jasley that ends with a RoaringRampageOfRevenge that achieves little except to destroy their bond with the Teiwaz. Finally the subsequent coup by McGillis that ends in their defeat and ultimately the death of Orga and many members of his organization, including Mika and Akihiro as well as McGillis himself when he makes a final charge at the Arianhod. Tekkadan forever tainted as a villanous organization by the BigBad Rustal who was unpunished for his crimes.]] It also had terrible effect on the more innocent members of the cast, [[spoiler: Ride became a terrorist bent on continuing Orga's vision and Almiria, perhaps the only innocent soul in the series is driven insane from the loss of her husband to be]]
*** The brutally effective Dainsleifs demonstrated how worthless mobile suits were in the series. A simplistic mass driver able to be used by any mobile suit, it was able to destroy the Gundam Frames without a problem. The very same frames that ended the Calamity War.

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** ''Anime/MobileSuitGundamIronBloodedOrphans'' seems to be attempting to eclipse Tomino's darker works, with such acts ranging from forcing child slaves to fight, to having a stand in for the Titans, Gjallarhorn, [[spoiler: set up circumstances that will allow them to justify having to massacre protesting colonists]]. colonists as the organization cuts deal with the supplier who intended the revolution to fail just to [[WarForFunAndProfit bolster sales]] using Kudelia as a martyr]]. In particular, the Brewers arc of did not hesistate to show the anime has received a fair number brutality of comparisons what happens when two groups of child soldiers were forced to ''Film/BeastsOfNoNation'' by kill one another in battle and demonstrates just how broken some internet commentators.
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*** Despite that however, it did not fully acheived achieved the objective as it glamorized the actions of Tekkadan as their enemies were often portrayed as one dimensional [[CardCarryingVillain villains]] who deserved to be brutally killed. This was taken notice of in Season 2 where Orga and Tekkadan embark in a conflict against the Arianhod fleet that cost them everything. [[spoiler: Starting with the Earth Branch, then Mika's hopes of ever having a peaceful civlian civilian life in his attempt to destroy the Hashmal. This climaxes with the death deaths of Naze, Lafter and Amida during a power play by Jasley that ends with a RoaringRampageOfRevenge that achieves little except to destroy their bond with and has Tekkadan cut off by the Teiwaz. Finally the subsequent Teiwaz as they head in to an unplanned coup by led McGillis that ends in their defeat and ultimately the death of Orga and many members of his organization, including Mika Shino, Mika, Hush and Akihiro as well as included among the dead. McGillis himself when he makes a final charge at the Arianhod.Arianhod in a futile act of defiance. Tekkadan forever tainted as a villanous organization by the BigBad Rustal who was unpunished for his crimes.]] It also had The compromise they have to make would have a terrible effect on the more innocent members of the cast, [[spoiler: Ride became a terrorist bent on continuing Orga's vision with the younger survivors and Almiria, perhaps the only innocent soul in the series is driven insane from the loss of her husband to be]]
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*** The brutally effective Dainsleifs demonstrated how worthless mobile suits were in the series. A simplistic mass driver able to be used by any mobile suit, it was able to destroy the Gundam Frames without a problem. The very same frames that problem and every battle featuring them ended the Calamity War.in a curbstomp battle.
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