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16th Mar '16 12:53:51 AM Watermist
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** {{Jossed}} by the new Chronicles book in two ways: there are four Old Gods (the unnamed fifth has been retconned out of existence), and Azeroth is [[spoiler: actually an ''unborn Titan.'' Like, the planet '''itself''' is a baby Titan. Azeroth is just still growing.]]

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** * {{Jossed}} by the new Chronicles book in two ways: there are four Old Gods (the unnamed fifth has been retconned out of existence), and Azeroth is [[spoiler: actually an ''unborn Titan.'' Like, the planet '''itself''' is a baby Titan. Azeroth is just still growing.]]
16th Mar '16 12:53:08 AM Watermist
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** {{Jossed}} by the new Chronicles book in two ways: there are four Old Gods (the unnamed fifth has been retconned out of existence), and Azeroth is [[spoiler: actually an ''unborn Titan.'' Like, the planet '''itself''' is a baby Titan. Azeroth is just still growing.]]
2nd Jan '16 10:55:10 AM nombretomado
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**** The source claiming that Cairne dies was SomethingAwful. Enough said already, right? Well...they ''also'' claimed that Thrall was becoming Guardian of Tirisfal. Need I go on?

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**** The source claiming that Cairne dies was SomethingAwful.Website/SomethingAwful. Enough said already, right? Well...they ''also'' claimed that Thrall was becoming Guardian of Tirisfal. Need I go on?
2nd Sep '15 3:17:12 AM Agares
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* Remove the Burning Legion as a faction-The Orcs have arguably sympathetic grounds to invade Azeroth as opposed to just being pawns of a demonic army, and Mannoroth's blood seems to be absent. While it can be revealed that Gul'dan's soul magic was taught to him by Kil'jaeden, that doesn't require the presence of the Burning Legion considering WC2's Lore did have Gul'dan study under Kil'jaeden.

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* 1. Remove the Burning Legion as a faction-The Orcs have arguably sympathetic grounds to invade Azeroth as opposed to just being pawns of a demonic army, and Mannoroth's blood seems to be absent. While it can be revealed that Gul'dan's soul magic was taught to him by Kil'jaeden, that doesn't require the presence of the Burning Legion considering WC2's Lore did have Gul'dan study under Kil'jaeden.
2nd Sep '15 3:11:35 AM Agares
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1. Remove the Burning Legion as a faction-The Orcs have arguably sympathetic grounds to invade Azeroth as opposed to just being pawns of a demonic army, and Mannoroth's blood seems to be absent. While it can be revealed that Gul'dan's soul magic was taught to him by Kil'jaeden, that doesn't require the presence of the Burning Legion considering WC2's Lore did have Gul'dan study under Kil'jaeden.

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1. * Remove the Burning Legion as a faction-The Orcs have arguably sympathetic grounds to invade Azeroth as opposed to just being pawns of a demonic army, and Mannoroth's blood seems to be absent. While it can be revealed that Gul'dan's soul magic was taught to him by Kil'jaeden, that doesn't require the presence of the Burning Legion considering WC2's Lore did have Gul'dan study under Kil'jaeden.
2nd Sep '15 3:11:03 AM Agares
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Durotan is in the film as the Orc lead despite being established in past Lore as not playing a major role in the First War. The non-human Alliance races are actually alarmed at the presence of the Orcs, likely leading to the Alliance being formed earlier than in canon. The magical corruption subplot currently seems to stem from Gul'dan's antics (although that doesn't rule out Kil'jaeden being revealed to have taught him this) as opposed to most of the chieftains drinking Mannoroth's blood. With all this in mind, and Metzen even comparing it to Marvel's Ultimate universe should make you expect the movie's universe to go even further until derailing from canon. Possible ways for this go:

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Durotan is in the film as the Orc lead despite being established in past Lore as not playing a major role in the First War. The non-human Alliance races are actually alarmed at the presence of the Orcs, likely leading to the Alliance being formed earlier than in canon. The magical corruption subplot currently seems to stem from be focused on Gul'dan's antics (although that doesn't rule out Kil'jaeden being revealed to have taught him this) as opposed to most of the chieftains drinking Mannoroth's blood. With all this in mind, and Metzen even comparing it to Marvel's Ultimate universe should make you expect the movie's universe to go even further in merging, removing, simplifying, and expanding elements until derailing it derails from canon. Possible ways for this go:
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1. Remove the Burning Legion as a faction-The Orcs have arguably sympathetic grounds to invade Azeroth as opposed to just being pawns of a demonic army, and Mannoroth's blood seems to be absent. While it can be revealed that Gul'dan's soul magic was taught to him by Kil'jaeden, that doesn't require the presence of the Burning Legion considering WC2's Lore did have Gul'dan study under Kil'jaeden.
2nd Sep '15 2:51:18 AM Agares
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Durotan is in the film as the Orc lead despite being established in past Lore as not playing a major role in the First War. The non-human Alliance races are actually alarmed at the presence of the orcs, likely leading to the Alliance being formed earlier than in canon. The magical corruption subplot currently seems to stem from Gul'dan's antics (although that doesn't rule out Kil'jaeden being revealed to have taught him this) as opposed to most of the chieftains drinking Mannoroth's blood. With all this in mind, and Metzen even comparing it to Marvel's Ultimate universe should make you expect the movie's universe to go even further until derailing from canon. Possible ways for this go:

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Durotan is in the film as the Orc lead despite being established in past Lore as not playing a major role in the First War. The non-human Alliance races are actually alarmed at the presence of the orcs, Orcs, likely leading to the Alliance being formed earlier than in canon. The magical corruption subplot currently seems to stem from Gul'dan's antics (although that doesn't rule out Kil'jaeden being revealed to have taught him this) as opposed to most of the chieftains drinking Mannoroth's blood. With all this in mind, and Metzen even comparing it to Marvel's Ultimate universe should make you expect the movie's universe to go even further until derailing from canon. Possible ways for this go:
2nd Sep '15 2:50:57 AM Agares
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Durotan is in the film as the Orc lead despite being established in past lore as not playing a major in the First War. The non-human Alliance races are actually alarmed at the presence of the orcs, likely leading to the Alliance being formed earlier than in canon. The magical corruption subplot currently seems to stem from Gul'dan's antics (although that doesn't rule out Kil'jaeden being revealed to have taught him this) as opposed to most of the chieftains drinking Mannoroth's blood. With all this in mind, and Metzen even comparing it to Marvel's Ultimate universe should make you expect the movie's universe to go even further until derailing from canon. Possible ways for this go:

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Durotan is in the film as the Orc lead despite being established in past lore Lore as not playing a major role in the First War. The non-human Alliance races are actually alarmed at the presence of the orcs, likely leading to the Alliance being formed earlier than in canon. The magical corruption subplot currently seems to stem from Gul'dan's antics (although that doesn't rule out Kil'jaeden being revealed to have taught him this) as opposed to most of the chieftains drinking Mannoroth's blood. With all this in mind, and Metzen even comparing it to Marvel's Ultimate universe should make you expect the movie's universe to go even further until derailing from canon. Possible ways for this go:
2nd Sep '15 2:49:16 AM Agares
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** Honestly, it seems to me that '''all''' the Old Gods have a little bit of Nyarlathotep in them. They seem to be unable to resist the temptation to meddle in the affairs of mortals (and Titans, and...) for their own amusement. (Yogg-Saron especially... for a guy with no eyes he's surprisingly easily DistractedByTheShiny.) It's just that those mortals are just now finding out about it/figuring it out, and decide to go DropTheHammer on the {{Eldritch Abomination}}'s head in its own living room rather than wait for it to get out.
* This gave me an idea. Let's assume that Azeroth is in fact the name of an Old God trapped in the core of the planet, and the five other Old Gods are his QuirkyMinibossSquad. C'thun is known to have killed a Titan shortly before he got sealed. But let's take this further.
** The only thing powerful enough to seal Azeroth would be the Five. Said Five would be sealed in prisons around the world and their power drained for use in keeping Azeroth contained. This explains how mortals are able to off C'thun and Yogg-Saron--they haven't broken that part of their seals yet. Killing the Old Gods weakens the seal on Azeroth, and as Azeroth gets stronger, he's able to assist in freeing the remaining Gods.
** This also works with the "Pentagon Seal" theory. Yoggy's lair stretches under all of Northrend(Though he's in Ulduar), one is sealed in Darkshore, one is under Tirisfal, and C'thun is in Silithus. I assume one is under Blasted Lands, since the zone is going to get an extensive reworking in Cataclysm.
*** This could mean that Azeroth is the Old God under the Malestrom. According to one of the RPG books, there's a giant hole that nobody can find the bottom of where the Well used to be. This is likely how the Old Gods broke free, as it weakened the seal on Azeroth long enough for it to awaken C'thun, who awoke Nightmare and Yog-Saron, who have no doubt awoken the other two.

'''[[WMG: The Old Gods are all a part of the same being]]'''
So far we have C'thun, a giant eye, and Yogg-Saron, a giant mouth. I won't be surprised if this pattern continues.
* However, I ''will'' cancel my account if Blizzard makes us fight an eldritch nose.
** Azeroth, Beast of 1000 Nostrils, will smell us all!
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'''[[WMG: The World of Warcraft is a Furry Paradise]]'''
Just think about how many animal-like humanoids there are: furbolgs and pandaren are ursine, harpies are avian, centaurs are equine, quilboars/razorfen are porcine, tauren are bovine, nerubians aren't quite humanoid but are sentient arachnids, the dryads and Keepers of the Grove are deer-like, the gnolls are hyena-like, and the murlocs are piscine. That's an awful lot of anthropomorphic animals. I think it likely that the Titans are anthropomorphic enthusiasts, being themselves of humanoid form and having created the Well of Eternity. I postulate that the latter resulted in the HollywoodEvolution of the anthropomorphic animal races.
* Pandaren haven't appeared in WoW yet, and it's anyone's guess if and when they will. And a lot of those races are based on classic fantasy/mythology. Hell, quilboars can be seen as [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Tolkien orcs]] if you squint. (But thank you, at any rate, for ''not'' trying to claim that draenei are caprine.)
** Pandaren are canon, and they've appeared now. Anyway, they were canon since Vanilla - I found Chen Stormstout's (fail memory) keg in the Barrens.

'''[[WMG:Jaina/Thrall will ''never'' happen because of the Jainaric curse.]]'''
That every man Jaina dates ''inevitably'' turns evil and demonic. Arthas? Now the Lich King. Kael'thas? Crazy demonic thrall thing. For the sake of ''Azerothian peace'', they must keep hands off.
* Unless there was a retcon while I wasn't looking, Kael didn't even date Jaina. He just had the hots for her and was a bit miffed that Arthas got to tap that. So basically Thrall might well be screwed if he even looks at her for longer than is absolutely necessary.
** Pshaw. Thrall is not royalty ''per se'', not blond, and would never have been considered suitable at any point in the setting's history. Therefore, he's safe.
* Actually, given the rumors about the upcoming ''Cataclysm'' expansion, it seems that Thrall may end up as the next Guardian of Tirisfal. Considering the history of the Guardians, it's not at all unreasonable to think that Jaina's "curse" has rubbed off on him.
** That depends. Is there any truth to the rumor that [[spoiler:[[ShipSinking that ship has officially been sunk]]]]? Because someone was claiming that [[spoiler:Metzen {{Jossed}} it at [=BlizzCon=]]]. And even if the [[spoiler:ship ''hasn't'' been sunk]]...Thrall as Guardian of Tirisfal has ''not'' been confirmed. MMO-Champion heard it from Something Awful.
*** Thrall will not become the new Guardian. However! In the new book ''The Shattering'', [[Thrall and Jaina have a secret meeting to discuss all the shit going down, which Eitrigg attends. As they part, Eitrigg remarks that it's too bad Jaina's not an orc. He then says Thrall needs to settle down with someone. Thrall laughs it off but he secretly feels lonely. Possibilities?]]
** {{Jossed}} in ''Cataclysm'', Thrall joined the Earthen Ring and now has a wife, an orc named Aggra.
*** And even if Aggra and Thrall don't work out, Metzen has said that "Thrall/Jaina will never happen. Ever."
* On the bright side, this might mean that Metzen really did care for Thrall/Jaina, but supports this WMG: Listen to Jaina's StopPokingMe quote in ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm''! She made mention about how Arthas and Kael went mad with power since dating her so if she's shipping herself with anything, it's studying. Obviously, Jaina friendzoning Thrall and letting him marry Aggra was for the good of his psyche and JustFriends is kinda the best relation for them. [[FridgeHorror Kalegcos, on the other hand...]] well, Jaina better friendzone him too.

'''[[WMG:Azeroth's missing moon is Outland]]'''
You have to admit, this one makes sense on SOME level. The basics are that Azeroth has (had?) two moons - The While lady (the moon you see ingame) and the Blue Child (the missing moon). During the Illidan encounter in the Black temple, you can [[http://www.wowwiki.com/File:Azerothshadowmoonvalley.JPG clearly see]] Azeroth, at a size that indicates that they are, at the very least, in the same solar system, and very very close, much closer than a two planets in our solar system. Is it not such a stretch to think that the reason that you can no longer see the Blue Child in the Azerothian night sky is because it has shattered and become to small to be discerned? Is it not a stretch to think that this missing satellite and this shattered world are one and the same?
** I'm sure Azerothians would notice one of their moons blowing not to mention Draenor was mentioned to be as large or larger than Azeroth. In addition, the Blue Child was in WoW till beta. There was a visual glitch about its size and position and Blizzard got rid of it. Canonically it still exists. The appearence of Azeroth above Outland has probably more to do with the magical nature of Outland and the Twisting Nether that drenched it.

'''[[WMG:The Corrupted Blood epidemic was no accident]]'''
It was deliberately created to allow for scientific study of how people would react to an epidemic.
* I rather doubt that persons with a highly contagious disease would go to cities and sneeze all over what are essentially children, in terms of strength and power.
* That is actually pretty much correct- didn't get the details exactly right, but that's amazingly accurate: [[http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupted_Blood_incident ]]."''\\
'''[[WMG: Warcraft happens in the Starcraft universe. The Titans / creators are in fact Xel'Naga, and the Burning Legion is in fact the final evolution of the Zerg]]'''
During some time in the Starcraft timeline, the Protoss were slaughtered, and remained an assistant faction for either Terran or Zerg. The Zerg continually assimilated the remaining races in the galaxy and after gaining some insight on Protoss psionics, freed themselves from the bondage of OrganicTechnology and became a more organized HiveMind, the Burning Legion. Meanwhile, the Terrans tried to deliberately fuse acquired Protoss psionics on a group of Ghost children, which would later become the Elves. The Elves escaped from the laboratories and destroyed any surviving Terrans in the laboratory, which they called the "Well of Eternity". There are also some Terrans who were trapped in Azeroth. Any other species in Azeroth are in fact experiments made by either Terrans, Protoss or the Xel'Naga.
* This was at one point semi-canonical. The original Silithid before 1.4 revamped them were the Zerg, and the Qiraji were the Zerg-Protoss Hybrids.

'''[[WMG: Hero units in the strategy games, as well as the faction leaders in WoW are so much larger than the ordinary members of their respective race because of a Waaagh field]]'''
Basically, the more respect they earn from their allies (and to some extent, their enemies) the bigger they grow. This is also why grunts and footsoldiers are always slightly bigger than peons and workers ect.
* Gruul has the ability to grow over time while fighting players. This ability could explain how he managed to gain control of all of Outland's ogres.

'''[[WMG: Garrosh is such a hyper-aggressive {{Jerk Ass}} because there's a shard of Saronite lodged in his brain.]]'''
This may sound like a really out-there theory, but think about it. What does exposure to saronite do, considering it's the hardened blood of an Old God? It causes aggression; the unwavering desire to fight and kill. Something Garrosh's no stranger to. And seeing as Garrosh loves to fight- when he gets the opportunity- it's possible that on a battlefield somewhere, a saronite arrow or blade got stuck in Garrosh's skull. He had the wound healed and taken care of discreetly so as not to look 'weak', but the healer could have made a mistake, as this IS a medieval-ish setting, and the wound never fully healed. Maybe a piece of saronite got stuck in his skull, and that much exposure to saronite on a regular basis is literally warping Garrosh's brain and actions. It explains everything.*
* He was like that before WoTLK.
** Was he now? Way I remember it, the Garrosh of TBC wasn't frothing at the mouth. He didn't really get aggressive before the WotLK pre-launch event. And at that point a new kind of plague was being shipped out from Northrend, so who is to say that was all that was making its way to the older zones?
*** I think it's referring to the event that, around the time the Horde sets out for Northrend, an impatient Garrosh gets into an argument with Thrall and challenges him to a duel, which is the start of his more aggressive WOTLK personality and happened prior to him reaching Northrend.

'''[[WMG: Sylvanas ordered the use of the new Plague at the Wrathgate.]]'''
The whole thing was an EvilPlan in order to set up a war between the Alliance and Horde. Varimathras and Putress were acting under Sylvanas' orders when they started the coup de etat in the Undercity and unleashed the Plague in Northrend. She knew Varian would jump at the opportunity to try and reclaim Lordaeron for the Alliance, and went to Thrall for help. If the two leaders clashed, it would spark an all-out war, which would allow the Forsaken to begin their offensive and unleash the Plague on the Alliance without repercussion.
* And one Grizzly Hills questline has the Alliance players taking the Scythe of Elune from a Horde outpost (which would mean that the Horde leaders--including Sylvanas--are most likely aware of its existence and capabilities). Since it apparently ended up in Gilneas, it is possible that she learned of its whereabouts and set the whole plan in motion because wanted the scythe for herself. The Scythe of Elune would allow her to enslave and control all of the worgen in Gilneas, which would now be its entire population

'''[[WMG:Arthas and Uther were related.]]'''
* KingArthur's (non-biological) father was Uther Pendragon. Arthas->Arthur. SEE?! IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE NOW!!

'''[[WMG:Turalyon and Alleria are on Argus.]]'''
There was more than one dimensional gateway. And a paladin going where there are demons to kill? Who'd have thunk?

[[WMG:Pandarens forged Illidan's weapons]]
* It's not a secret that there are pandas on Illidan's wrathblades. Perhaps it was made a Pandaren blacksmith.
** Illidan looted his weapons from a doom guard lord during the war of the ancients. My guess is that the night elves added the panda faces during Illidan's imprisonment as a way of defacing the blades.

[[WMG:Draenor is another Titan made world.]]
There were hints of this before Cataclysm, but things since have just sealed the deal more or less. For one, look at all the "natural" (as opposed to the supernatural elements) the two worlds have in common. There has been some cross contamination since the Dark Portal's opening. Look at the Hellboars for one. That doesn't explain everything. The Frostwolves were the Frostwolves before crossing the Dark Portal so Outland wolves are native. Now, look at the similar bird species, the arachnids, many of the mammals and reptiles. Reptiles in particular, the "raptors" of Outland have now been retconed as what normal raptors become when corrupted.

Each world has their own native species too. Elekks, Talbuks, Ravagers are native to Draenor. Dragons appear to be native to Azeroth to some degree.

Turn your heads to the more supernatural. Both Ragnaros and Cyrukh share the same title of Fire Lord and were summoned by the Cipher of Damnation. Cyrukh was Outland's equivalent to Ragnros. His easier kill can eitehr be chopped up to having more experience at this point (meaning Ragnaros would be equally easy to kill as his Molten Core self) or Cyrukh's summoning left him weaker. The latter is possible if you consider the circumstances. Gul'dan went into using the Cipher of Damnation knowing more about it and in a controlled setting. Thaurissian used it as a despartaion move and thus may have allowed Ragnaros more freedom/power than he would have had. Flayers and other elemental linked creatures that were only seen in a post-cataclysm Draenor (Outland) before now have appeared in this post-Cataclysm Azeroth. The Skettish were also summoning a C'thun like Old God on Draenor.

'''[[WMG: Lor'Themar will stage a successful coup, personally killing Garrosh and becoming the new leader of the Horde.]]'''
Search your feelings. You know it to be true.

'''[[WMG: Anetheron, Detheroc and Dalvengyr are live. ]]'''

'''[[WMG: The Old Gods are partially responsible for Azoroth's victories against the Burning Legion ]]'''
Think about it- Azeroth is the only known world in the universe of Warcraft to have sucessfully fought off not one but no less than three invasions by the Burning Legion, Titan made or otherwise. So what also sets this world apart from other worlds in this universe? The Old Gods, ancient horrors that are said to be powerful enough to force a large number of the Titans to unite just to seal them beneath the earth. Whats to say that the power of these ancient beings hasn't aided the inhabitants against these invaders?

'''[[WMG: Vashj caused the entire first half of the Blood Elf Campaign.]]'''
Seriously, she was on full MagnificentBastard mode. She knew more about the Blood Elves and Garithos than Kael had volunteered to anyone not in the Alliance, and knew that aiding Kael would drive a wedge between them. Therefor, she first destroyed the Goblin shipyard at Dalaran, knowing Kael needed to get across the lake (look at how she conveniently shows up with boats just as he arrives) and framed a small group of Ghouls for the action. Garithos begins to distrust Kael and withdraws all the Humans and Dwarves from his command, forcing him to rely on the Naga's aid during the second mission. Then she reveals the Blood Elve's magical addiction and immediately narrows their option to just Demons. She was doing it all from the start to force them into a corner that only serving Illidan could get them out of!

'''[[WMG: Either Nazgrim or Zaela will ultimately side with the rebellion and become the next Warchief.]]'''
Considering Nazgrim's rise through the ranks as the expansions have gone by, becoming Warchief would be the logical conclusion, provided he understands the current situation well enough to turn coat on Garrosh before he himself is killed by Vol'jin's rebellion. Zaela, for her part, has turned against a tyrannical leader and taken his place once before and could do it again. Both seem to be firmly on Garrosh's side as of 5.3, but there's still time for one or both to have a change of heart. Also, they're probably as good as dead if they don't, and it would be a shame to lose both of them to this.
* The 5.4 PTR patch notes state that [[spoiler:both will be raid bosses in the Siege of Orgrimmar raid. However, it's still unknown if either or both will be killed, or ultimately pull a HeelFaceTurn upon defeat.]]

'''[[WMG: There might be the remakes of old ''VideoGame/WarcraftOrcsAndHumans'', ''Tides Of Darkness'' and ''Beyond The Dark Portal'', featuring updated graphics, sound and new features, similar to remakes of older Pokemon games.]]'''

'''[[WMG: Arthas, Jaina and Sylvannas were a FoeYay OT3.]]'''
Think about it. You have the [[BettyAndVeronica blonde sweetheart and the... well Sylvannas aint brunette but she's the Veronica]] and both were prominent acquaintances of Arthas. One was his old girlfriend while the other played hard to get. [[FreudWasRight He stuck long hard objects into both of them.]] It was their respective first times. They both thought about him every day for years afterwards. He kept personal mementos from both on his person up until his death. Srsly gais. This is [[ShippingGoggles shipping 101.]] It's also quite possibly the most horrifying thing I have ever typed.
** Well in Sylvanas' case just switch sex for killing and you have the canon story. Her protest "No! You wouldn't dare!" in RoC sounded as if a certain particularly vile act took place, and the [[MindRape spiritual equivalent]] of it followed. Also, she was blond and, according to the expanded universe, "so very vain". The novel ''Arthas'' having two parts named "The Bright Lady" and "The Dark Lady" respectively doesn't help, either. So if it was definitely as overt as FoeYay gets in a game where sex is taboo but pulling disembodying someone's spirit is perfectly okay. You'd have to squint very hard for Sylvanas/Jaina though, the two never interact.

'''[[WMG: Azeroth is the last world not yet conquered by the Legion.]]'''
Take a close look at Azeroth. It's a world with [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters loads and loads of heroes]], to the point of most of them (the [=PC=]s) being unsung despite saving the day numerous times - either due to the low bard-to-hero ratio, or because the sung ones are [[UpToEleven even more powerful and heroic]]. The origins of most heroes are tied to the Titans in one way or another. The core of the world [[SealedEvilInACan holds a number of]] {{Eldritch Abomination}}s which don't seem too keen on sharing Azeroth with some alien demons. And these terrifyingly powerful Old Gods, Elemental Lords and other assorted monstrosities are no longer held in check by the Titans, but [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu stopped in their tracks by the mere mortals mentioned earlier]]. And this is not the Legion's first attempt at invading Azeroth - the Third War took place ten thousand years after their first, failed invasion. Over that time, they tried to infiltrate the world and break down its defenses, and encountered resistance on every step - both from the Night Elves and the Guardians of Tirisfal.
Draenor, the world previously invaded by the Legion, is effectively a bunch of blasted, dying rocks floating in the Nether. The remnants of its inhabitants mostly fled to Azeroth and allied themselves with the locals, rather than staying isolated and beating each other into extinction while stranded on Draenor's rotting husk.
The only other aliens we have seen so far are creatures of the Nether and Legion's demons. For all we know, even the Titans might no longer exist.
Just think: at this point, Azeroth is probably the only planet in the entire universe which is neither a dead rock nor a Legion hellhole. IronHorde!Draenor from ''Warlords'' doesn't really count, since it's both in an alternative universe and in the past.
* The "Titans no longer exist" has been hinted at in mainstream Azeroth. Someone (possibly Wrathion) said something about "rebuilding the final Titan" which seems to imply that the Titans are no longer the universal power they were and may be all dead or mostly dead. Sargeras might even be the 'final Titan' spoken of, which would be really bad if they rebuilt him and he still had OmnicidalManiac tendencies.
'''[[WMG: All of the lore and raid devs went missing after 6.0]]'''
Patch 6.1 is the UI and programming staff of Blizzard trying frantically to cover up this fact by releasing a ton of quality of life stuff in the hopes that no one will notice.

'''[[WMG:Warcraft IV will be a ContinuityReboot of ''WorldOfWarcraft'']]'''
If there's any. By now, Blizzard must have gotten input on how the story goes, and... after ''Cataclysm'', there are A LOT of missteps, and so they will revert back to the timeline after the battle of Mount Hyjal and founding of Theramore, then make it that the storyline prevents the more questionable events transpiring in ''[=WoW=]''. Like, what if Thrall can appoint SOMEONE ELSE than Garrosh as Warchief? Or what if the Alliance and Horde managed to prevent Wrathgate incident and ensuring that the Alliance and Horde stood united?
* I can see this. They must have noticed that something goes wrong in the characterizations. Look at ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm'', really, they still make the Warcraft characters more about when they are at their most iconic and less questionable, Thrall is still the Warchief, Jaina is still a mediator of peace, Sylvanas still considers her undead state a curse, and Kael'thas isn't a megalomaniac servant of Kil'Jaeden. Besides, there has been some cases that an MMORPG gets to show off TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnow it, like ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV''. So I'm guessing that one day, the World of Warcraft verse will be destroyed, and a new verse is born, the events transpiring mostly the same up until the end of ''The Frozen Throne'', and after that Warcraft IV would be the time they fix up the mistakes and preventing all those.
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** Honestly, it seems to me that '''all''' the Old Gods have a little bit of Nyarlathotep in them. They seem to be unable to resist the temptation to meddle in the affairs of mortals (and Titans, and...) for their own amusement. (Yogg-Saron especially... for a guy with no eyes he's surprisingly easily DistractedByTheShiny.) It's just that those mortals are just now finding out about it/figuring it out, and decide to go DropTheHammer on the {{Eldritch Abomination}}'s head in its own living room rather than wait for it to get out.
* This gave me an idea. Let's assume that Azeroth is in fact the name of an Old God trapped in the core of the planet, and the five other Old Gods are his QuirkyMinibossSquad. C'thun is known to have killed a Titan shortly before he got sealed. But let's take this further.
** The only thing powerful enough to seal Azeroth would be the Five. Said Five would be sealed in prisons around the world and their power drained for use in keeping Azeroth contained. This explains how mortals are able to off C'thun and Yogg-Saron--they haven't broken that part of their seals yet. Killing the Old Gods weakens the seal on Azeroth, and as Azeroth gets stronger, he's able to assist in freeing the remaining Gods.
** This also works with the "Pentagon Seal" theory. Yoggy's lair stretches under all of Northrend(Though he's in Ulduar), one is sealed in Darkshore, one is under Tirisfal, and C'thun is in Silithus. I assume one is under Blasted Lands, since the zone is going to get an extensive reworking in Cataclysm.
*** This could mean that Azeroth is the Old God under the Malestrom. According to one of the RPG books, there's a giant hole that nobody can find the bottom of where the Well used to be. This is likely how the Old Gods broke free, as it weakened the seal on Azeroth long enough for it to awaken C'thun, who awoke Nightmare and Yog-Saron, who have no doubt awoken the other two.

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'''[[WMG: The Old Gods are all a part of the same being]]'''
So far we have C'thun, a giant eye, and Yogg-Saron, a giant mouth. I won't be surprised if this pattern continues.
* However, I ''will'' cancel my account if Blizzard makes us fight an eldritch nose.
** Azeroth, Beast of 1000 Nostrils, will smell us all!
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'''[[WMG: The World of
Warcraft movie's universe will be even more of an Adaption Distillation until it flat-out derails from canon]]'''

Durotan
is a Furry Paradise]]'''
Just think about how many animal-like humanoids there are: furbolgs and pandaren are ursine, harpies are avian, centaurs are equine, quilboars/razorfen are porcine, tauren are bovine, nerubians aren't quite humanoid but are sentient arachnids, the dryads and Keepers of the Grove are deer-like, the gnolls are hyena-like, and the murlocs are piscine. That's an awful lot of anthropomorphic animals. I think it likely that the Titans are anthropomorphic enthusiasts, being themselves of humanoid form and having created the Well of Eternity. I postulate that the latter resulted
in the HollywoodEvolution of film as the anthropomorphic animal races.
* Pandaren haven't appeared
Orc lead despite being established in WoW yet, and it's anyone's guess if and when they will. And past lore as not playing a lot of those major in the First War. The non-human Alliance races are based on classic fantasy/mythology. Hell, quilboars can be seen as [[OurOrcsAreDifferent Tolkien orcs]] if you squint. (But thank you, at any rate, for ''not'' trying to claim that draenei are caprine.)
** Pandaren are canon, and they've appeared now. Anyway, they were canon since Vanilla - I found Chen Stormstout's (fail memory) keg in the Barrens.

'''[[WMG:Jaina/Thrall will ''never'' happen because of the Jainaric curse.]]'''
That every man Jaina dates ''inevitably'' turns evil and demonic. Arthas? Now the Lich King. Kael'thas? Crazy demonic thrall thing. For the sake of ''Azerothian peace'', they must keep hands off.
* Unless there was a retcon while I wasn't looking, Kael didn't even date Jaina. He just had the hots for her and was a bit miffed that Arthas got to tap that. So basically Thrall might well be screwed if he even looks at her for longer than is absolutely necessary.
** Pshaw. Thrall is not royalty ''per se'', not blond, and would never have been considered suitable at any point in the setting's history. Therefore, he's safe.
* Actually, given the rumors about the upcoming ''Cataclysm'' expansion, it seems that Thrall may end up as the next Guardian of Tirisfal. Considering the history of the Guardians, it's not at all unreasonable to think that Jaina's "curse" has rubbed off on him.
** That depends. Is there any truth to the rumor that [[spoiler:[[ShipSinking that ship has officially been sunk]]]]? Because someone was claiming that [[spoiler:Metzen {{Jossed}} it at [=BlizzCon=]]]. And even if the [[spoiler:ship ''hasn't'' been sunk]]...Thrall as Guardian of Tirisfal has ''not'' been confirmed. MMO-Champion heard it from Something Awful.
*** Thrall will not become the new Guardian. However! In the new book ''The Shattering'', [[Thrall and Jaina have a secret meeting to discuss all the shit going down, which Eitrigg attends. As they part, Eitrigg remarks that it's too bad Jaina's not an orc. He then says Thrall needs to settle down with someone. Thrall laughs it off but he secretly feels lonely. Possibilities?]]
** {{Jossed}} in ''Cataclysm'', Thrall joined the Earthen Ring and now has a wife, an orc named Aggra.
*** And even if Aggra and Thrall don't work out, Metzen has said that "Thrall/Jaina will never happen. Ever."
* On the bright side, this might mean that Metzen really did care for Thrall/Jaina, but supports this WMG: Listen to Jaina's StopPokingMe quote in ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm''! She made mention about how Arthas and Kael went mad with power since dating her so if she's shipping herself with anything, it's studying. Obviously, Jaina friendzoning Thrall and letting him marry Aggra was for the good of his psyche and JustFriends is kinda the best relation for them. [[FridgeHorror Kalegcos, on the other hand...]] well, Jaina better friendzone him too.

'''[[WMG:Azeroth's missing moon is Outland]]'''
You have to admit, this one makes sense on SOME level. The basics are that Azeroth has (had?) two moons - The While lady (the moon you see ingame) and the Blue Child (the missing moon). During the Illidan encounter in the Black temple, you can [[http://www.wowwiki.com/File:Azerothshadowmoonvalley.JPG clearly see]] Azeroth, at a size that indicates that they are, at the very least, in the same solar system, and very very close, much closer than a two planets in our solar system. Is it not such a stretch to think that the reason that you can no longer see the Blue Child in the Azerothian night sky is because it has shattered and become to small to be discerned? Is it not a stretch to think that this missing satellite and this shattered world are one and the same?
** I'm sure Azerothians would notice one of their moons blowing not to mention Draenor was mentioned to be as large or larger than Azeroth. In addition, the Blue Child was in WoW till beta. There was a visual glitch about its size and position and Blizzard got rid of it. Canonically it still exists. The appearence of Azeroth above Outland has probably more to do with the magical nature of Outland and the Twisting Nether that drenched it.

'''[[WMG:The Corrupted Blood epidemic was no accident]]'''
It was deliberately created to allow for scientific study of how people would react to an epidemic.
* I rather doubt that persons with a highly contagious disease would go to cities and sneeze all over what are essentially children, in terms of strength and power.
* That is
actually pretty much correct- didn't get alarmed at the details exactly right, but that's amazingly accurate: [[http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corrupted_Blood_incident ]]."''\\
'''[[WMG: Warcraft happens in the Starcraft universe. The Titans / creators are in fact Xel'Naga, and the Burning Legion is in fact the final evolution
presence of the Zerg]]'''
During some time in the Starcraft timeline, the Protoss were slaughtered, and remained an assistant faction for either Terran or Zerg. The Zerg continually assimilated the remaining races in the galaxy and after gaining some insight on Protoss psionics, freed themselves from the bondage of OrganicTechnology and became a more organized HiveMind, the Burning Legion. Meanwhile, the Terrans tried
orcs, likely leading to deliberately fuse acquired Protoss psionics on a group of Ghost children, which would later become the Elves. The Elves escaped from the laboratories and destroyed any surviving Terrans in the laboratory, which they called the "Well of Eternity". There are also some Terrans who were trapped in Azeroth. Any other species in Azeroth are in fact experiments made by either Terrans, Protoss or the Xel'Naga.
* This was at one point semi-canonical. The original Silithid before 1.4 revamped them were the Zerg, and the Qiraji were the Zerg-Protoss Hybrids.

'''[[WMG: Hero units in the strategy games, as well as the faction leaders in WoW are so much larger than the ordinary members of their respective race because of a Waaagh field]]'''
Basically, the more respect they earn from their allies (and to some extent, their enemies) the bigger they grow. This is also why grunts and footsoldiers are always slightly bigger than peons and workers ect.
* Gruul has the ability to grow over time while fighting players. This ability could explain how he managed to gain control of all of Outland's ogres.

'''[[WMG: Garrosh is such a hyper-aggressive {{Jerk Ass}} because there's a shard of Saronite lodged in his brain.]]'''
This may sound like a really out-there theory, but think about it. What does exposure to saronite do, considering it's the hardened blood of an Old God? It causes aggression; the unwavering desire to fight and kill. Something Garrosh's no stranger to. And seeing as Garrosh loves to fight- when he gets the opportunity- it's possible that on a battlefield somewhere, a saronite arrow or blade got stuck in Garrosh's skull. He had the wound healed and taken care of discreetly so as not to look 'weak', but the healer could have made a mistake, as this IS a medieval-ish setting, and the wound never fully healed. Maybe a piece of saronite got stuck in his skull, and that much exposure to saronite on a regular basis is literally warping Garrosh's brain and actions. It explains everything.*
* He was like that before WoTLK.
** Was he now? Way I remember it, the Garrosh of TBC wasn't frothing at the mouth. He didn't really get aggressive before the WotLK pre-launch event. And at that point a new kind of plague was being shipped out from Northrend, so who is to say that was all that was making its way to the older zones?
*** I think it's referring to the event that, around the time the Horde sets out for Northrend, an impatient Garrosh gets into an argument with Thrall and challenges him to a duel, which is the start of his more aggressive WOTLK personality and happened prior to him reaching Northrend.

'''[[WMG: Sylvanas ordered the use of the new Plague at the Wrathgate.]]'''
The whole thing was an EvilPlan in order to set up a war between
the Alliance and Horde. Varimathras and Putress were acting under Sylvanas' orders when they started the coup de etat being formed earlier than in the Undercity and unleashed the Plague in Northrend. She knew Varian would jump at the opportunity canon. The magical corruption subplot currently seems to try and reclaim Lordaeron for the Alliance, and went to Thrall for help. If the two leaders clashed, it would spark an all-out war, which would allow the Forsaken to begin their offensive and unleash the Plague on the Alliance without repercussion.
* And one Grizzly Hills questline has the Alliance players taking the Scythe of Elune
stem from a Horde outpost (which would mean Gul'dan's antics (although that the Horde leaders--including Sylvanas--are most likely aware of its existence and capabilities). Since it apparently ended up in Gilneas, it is possible that she learned of its whereabouts and set the whole plan in motion because wanted the scythe for herself. The Scythe of Elune would allow her to enslave and control all of the worgen in Gilneas, which would now be its entire population

'''[[WMG:Arthas and Uther were related.]]'''
* KingArthur's (non-biological) father was Uther Pendragon. Arthas->Arthur. SEE?! IT MAKES PERFECT SENSE NOW!!

'''[[WMG:Turalyon and Alleria are on Argus.]]'''
There was more than one dimensional gateway. And a paladin going where there are demons to kill? Who'd have thunk?

[[WMG:Pandarens forged Illidan's weapons]]
* It's not a secret that there are pandas on Illidan's wrathblades. Perhaps it was made a Pandaren blacksmith.
** Illidan looted his weapons from a doom guard lord during the war of the ancients. My guess is that the night elves added the panda faces during Illidan's imprisonment as a way of defacing the blades.

[[WMG:Draenor is another Titan made world.]]
There were hints of this before Cataclysm, but things since have just sealed the deal more or less. For one, look at all the "natural" (as opposed to the supernatural elements) the two worlds have in common. There has been some cross contamination since the Dark Portal's opening. Look at the Hellboars for one. That
doesn't explain everything. The Frostwolves were the Frostwolves before crossing the Dark Portal so Outland wolves are native. Now, look at the similar bird species, the arachnids, many rule out Kil'jaeden being revealed to have taught him this) as opposed to most of the mammals and reptiles. Reptiles in particular, the "raptors" of Outland have now been retconed as what normal raptors become when corrupted.

Each world has their own native species too. Elekks, Talbuks, Ravagers are native to Draenor. Dragons appear to be native to Azeroth to some degree.

Turn your heads to the more supernatural. Both Ragnaros and Cyrukh share the same title of Fire Lord and were summoned by the Cipher of Damnation. Cyrukh was Outland's equivalent to Ragnros. His easier kill can eitehr be chopped up to having more experience at
chieftains drinking Mannoroth's blood. With all this point (meaning Ragnaros would be equally easy to kill as his Molten Core self) or Cyrukh's summoning left him weaker. The latter is possible if you consider the circumstances. Gul'dan went into using the Cipher of Damnation knowing more about it in mind, and in a controlled setting. Thaurissian used it as a despartaion move and thus may have allowed Ragnaros more freedom/power than he would have had. Flayers and other elemental linked creatures that were only seen in a post-cataclysm Draenor (Outland) before now have appeared in this post-Cataclysm Azeroth. The Skettish were also summoning a C'thun like Old God on Draenor.

'''[[WMG: Lor'Themar will stage a successful coup, personally killing Garrosh and becoming the new leader of the Horde.]]'''
Search your feelings. You know
Metzen even comparing it to be true.

'''[[WMG: Anetheron, Detheroc and Dalvengyr are live. ]]'''

'''[[WMG: The Old Gods are partially responsible for Azoroth's victories against the Burning Legion ]]'''
Think about it- Azeroth is the only known world in the
Marvel's Ultimate universe of Warcraft to have sucessfully fought off not one but no less than three invasions by should make you expect the Burning Legion, Titan made or otherwise. So what also sets this world apart from other worlds in this universe? The Old Gods, ancient horrors that are said to be powerful enough to force a large number of the Titans to unite just to seal them beneath the earth. Whats to say that the power of these ancient beings hasn't aided the inhabitants against these invaders?

'''[[WMG: Vashj caused the entire first half of the Blood Elf Campaign.]]'''
Seriously, she was on full MagnificentBastard mode. She knew more about the Blood Elves and Garithos than Kael had volunteered to anyone not in the Alliance, and knew that aiding Kael would drive a wedge between them. Therefor, she first destroyed the Goblin shipyard at Dalaran, knowing Kael needed to get across the lake (look at how she conveniently shows up with boats just as he arrives) and framed a small group of Ghouls for the action. Garithos begins to distrust Kael and withdraws all the Humans and Dwarves from his command, forcing him to rely on the Naga's aid during the second mission. Then she reveals the Blood Elve's magical addiction and immediately narrows their option to just Demons. She was doing it all from the start to force them into a corner that only serving Illidan could get them out of!

'''[[WMG: Either Nazgrim or Zaela will ultimately side with the rebellion and become the next Warchief.]]'''
Considering Nazgrim's rise through the ranks as the expansions have gone by, becoming Warchief would be the logical conclusion, provided he understands the current situation well enough to turn coat on Garrosh before he himself is killed by Vol'jin's rebellion. Zaela, for her part, has turned against a tyrannical leader and taken his place once before and could do it again. Both seem to be firmly on Garrosh's side as of 5.3, but there's still time for one or both to have a change of heart. Also, they're probably as good as dead if they don't, and it would be a shame to lose both of them to this.
* The 5.4 PTR patch notes state that [[spoiler:both will be raid bosses in the Siege of Orgrimmar raid. However, it's still unknown if either or both will be killed, or ultimately pull a HeelFaceTurn upon defeat.]]

'''[[WMG: There might be the remakes of old ''VideoGame/WarcraftOrcsAndHumans'', ''Tides Of Darkness'' and ''Beyond The Dark Portal'', featuring updated graphics, sound and new features, similar to remakes of older Pokemon games.]]'''

'''[[WMG: Arthas, Jaina and Sylvannas were a FoeYay OT3.]]'''
Think about it. You have the [[BettyAndVeronica blonde sweetheart and the... well Sylvannas aint brunette but she's the Veronica]] and both were prominent acquaintances of Arthas. One was his old girlfriend while the other played hard to get. [[FreudWasRight He stuck long hard objects into both of them.]] It was their respective first times. They both thought about him every day for years afterwards. He kept personal mementos from both on his person up until his death. Srsly gais. This is [[ShippingGoggles shipping 101.]] It's also quite possibly the most horrifying thing I have ever typed.
** Well in Sylvanas' case just switch sex for killing and you have the canon story. Her protest "No! You wouldn't dare!" in RoC sounded as if a certain particularly vile act took place, and the [[MindRape spiritual equivalent]] of it followed. Also, she was blond and, according to the expanded universe, "so very vain". The novel ''Arthas'' having two parts named "The Bright Lady" and "The Dark Lady" respectively doesn't help, either. So if it was definitely as overt as FoeYay gets in a game where sex is taboo but pulling disembodying someone's spirit is perfectly okay. You'd have to squint very hard for Sylvanas/Jaina though, the two never interact.

'''[[WMG: Azeroth is the last world not yet conquered by the Legion.]]'''
Take a close look at Azeroth. It's a world with [[LoadsAndLoadsOfCharacters loads and loads of heroes]], to the point of most of them (the [=PC=]s) being unsung despite saving the day numerous times - either due to the low bard-to-hero ratio, or because the sung ones are [[UpToEleven even more powerful and heroic]]. The origins of most heroes are tied to the Titans in one way or another. The core of the world [[SealedEvilInACan holds a number of]] {{Eldritch Abomination}}s which don't seem too keen on sharing Azeroth with some alien demons. And these terrifyingly powerful Old Gods, Elemental Lords and other assorted monstrosities are no longer held in check by the Titans, but [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu stopped in their tracks by the mere mortals mentioned earlier]]. And this is not the Legion's first attempt at invading Azeroth - the Third War took place ten thousand years after their first, failed invasion. Over that time, they tried to infiltrate the world and break down its defenses, and encountered resistance on every step - both from the Night Elves and the Guardians of Tirisfal.
Draenor, the world previously invaded by the Legion, is effectively a bunch of blasted, dying rocks floating in the Nether. The remnants of its inhabitants mostly fled to Azeroth and allied themselves with the locals, rather than staying isolated and beating each other into extinction while stranded on Draenor's rotting husk.
The only other aliens we have seen so far are creatures of the Nether and Legion's demons. For all we know, even the Titans might no longer exist.
Just think: at this point, Azeroth is probably the only planet in the entire
movie's universe which is neither a dead rock nor a Legion hellhole. IronHorde!Draenor from ''Warlords'' doesn't really count, since it's both in an alternative universe and in the past.
* The "Titans no longer exist" has been hinted at in mainstream Azeroth. Someone (possibly Wrathion) said something about "rebuilding the final Titan" which seems
to imply that the Titans are no longer the universal power they were and may be all dead or mostly dead. Sargeras might go even be the 'final Titan' spoken of, which would be really bad if they rebuilt him and he still had OmnicidalManiac tendencies.
'''[[WMG: All of the lore and raid devs went missing after 6.0]]'''
Patch 6.1 is the UI and programming staff of Blizzard trying frantically to cover up this fact by releasing a ton of quality of life stuff in the hopes that no one will notice.

'''[[WMG:Warcraft IV will be a ContinuityReboot of ''WorldOfWarcraft'']]'''
If there's any. By now, Blizzard must have gotten input on how the story goes, and... after ''Cataclysm'', there are A LOT of missteps, and so they will revert back to the timeline after the battle of Mount Hyjal and founding of Theramore, then make it that the storyline prevents the more questionable events transpiring in ''[=WoW=]''. Like, what if Thrall can appoint SOMEONE ELSE than Garrosh as Warchief? Or what if the Alliance and Horde managed to prevent Wrathgate incident and ensuring that the Alliance and Horde stood united?
* I can see this. They must have noticed that something goes wrong in the characterizations. Look at ''VideoGame/HeroesOfTheStorm'', really, they still make the Warcraft characters more about when they are at their most iconic and less questionable, Thrall is still the Warchief, Jaina is still a mediator of peace, Sylvanas still considers her undead state a curse, and Kael'thas isn't a megalomaniac servant of Kil'Jaeden. Besides, there has been some cases that an MMORPG gets to show off TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnow it, like ''VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIV''. So I'm guessing that one day, the World of Warcraft verse will be destroyed, and a new verse is born, the events transpiring mostly the same up
further until the end of ''The Frozen Throne'', and after that Warcraft IV would be the time they fix up the mistakes and preventing all those.
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** Well in Sylvanas' case just switch sex for killing and you have the canon story. Her protest "No! You wouldn't dare!" in RoC sounded as if a certain particularly vile act took place, and the [[MindRape spiritual equivalent]] of it followed. Also, she was blond and, according to the expanded universe, "so very vain". The novel ''Arthas'' having two parts named "The Bright Lady" and "The Dark Lady" respectively doesn't help, either. So if it was definitely as overt as FoeYay gets in a game where sex is taboo but pulling disembodying someone's spirit is perfectly okay. You'd have to squint very hard for Sylvanas/Jaina though, the two never interact.
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