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** It's obvious that Norsefire is TheMinistryOfTruth aka [[spoiler: Creator/{{Fox News|Channel}}]]

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** It's obvious that Norsefire is TheMinistryOfTruth aka [[spoiler: Creator/{{Fox News|Channel}}]][[spoiler:Fox News]]



V is just an idea printed on a costume and a mask. Anyone, as long as they uphold the ideals and V's persona, can become V. Hence, the Larkhill V died of his mutations soon after breaking out, and passed on his mantle to another V, who could have passed it on to a third or even a fourth V before the main storyline begins. [[spoiler: Even Evey can do it - and in the end, she takes an apprentice of her own.]]
* It's a possibility, but unlikely. In the book at least, the moral conflict of whether or not V's actions are justified is central to the plot. His actions are so morally outrageous and extreme because of his time at Larkhill - [[spoiler: and when Evey takes over she becomes a calmer, more rational V - someone no longer marked by a lust for vengeance.]]

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V is just an idea printed on a costume and a mask. Anyone, as long as they uphold the ideals and V's persona, can become V. Hence, the Larkhill V died of his mutations soon after breaking out, and passed on his mantle to another V, who could have passed it on to a third or even a fourth V before the main storyline begins. [[spoiler: Even [[spoiler:Even Evey can do it - and in the end, she takes an apprentice of her own.]]
* It's a possibility, but unlikely. In the book at least, the moral conflict of whether or not V's actions are justified is central to the plot. His actions are so morally outrageous and extreme because of his time at Larkhill - [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and when Evey takes over she becomes a calmer, more rational V - someone no longer marked by a lust for vengeance.]]



V was either one of the early party leaders, along with, Susan, Lilliman, and Prothero, or only a few levels removed from them. V's ambition and ruthlessness, displayed in the last days of the revolution that brought Norsefire into power was reason enough for the other leaders to [[spoiler:send V off to Larkhill.]] There,[[spoiler: influenced by Valerie's letter,]] V had a revelation. Surrounded by everyone the party hated, and at the center of a key part of Norsefire's vision, the party's former rising star saw Norsefire in a new light, and chose not to lie down and die. Instead, V chose vendetta as both a response to [[spoiler: Norsefire's betrayal by sending them to Larkhill]], and as a form of redemption, as V might have felt some responsibility for the rise of Norsefire.

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V was either one of the early party leaders, along with, Susan, Lilliman, and Prothero, or only a few levels removed from them. V's ambition and ruthlessness, displayed in the last days of the revolution that brought Norsefire into power was reason enough for the other leaders to [[spoiler:send V off to Larkhill.]] There,[[spoiler: influenced There,[[spoiler:influenced by Valerie's letter,]] V had a revelation. Surrounded by everyone the party hated, and at the center of a key part of Norsefire's vision, the party's former rising star saw Norsefire in a new light, and chose not to lie down and die. Instead, V chose vendetta as both a response to [[spoiler: Norsefire's [[spoiler:Norsefire's betrayal by sending them to Larkhill]], and as a form of redemption, as V might have felt some responsibility for the rise of Norsefire.



* I wrote this, and in retrospect, there are some problem with this theory. One problem comes from how Norsefire's elites did not recognize V, dispatching the Finger to find out who V was even after seeing and hearing V's body language and voice. If V were a former Norsefire elite, party members such as Prothero and Lilliman should recognize something of V when they came into contact. Second, if you have a high ranking political prisoner, and you decide to [[spoiler: use them as a test subject in a horrific medical experiment]], the last thing you want to do is give them something dangerous like gardening tools or fertilizer. Even if V didn't know how to [[spoiler: use the fertilizer to escape]], attacking guards and tunneling out both seemed like viable options with the tools. This could be an example of Prothero picking up the VillainBall, but it seems reckless compared to everything else Norsefire did ( such as conquering England, maintaining order after nuclear war, and treating V as a serious threat).

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* I wrote this, and in retrospect, there are some problem with this theory. One problem comes from how Norsefire's elites did not recognize V, dispatching the Finger to find out who V was even after seeing and hearing V's body language and voice. If V were a former Norsefire elite, party members such as Prothero and Lilliman should recognize something of V when they came into contact. Second, if you have a high ranking political prisoner, and you decide to [[spoiler: use [[spoiler:use them as a test subject in a horrific medical experiment]], the last thing you want to do is give them something dangerous like gardening tools or fertilizer. Even if V didn't know how to [[spoiler: use [[spoiler:use the fertilizer to escape]], attacking guards and tunneling out both seemed like viable options with the tools. This could be an example of Prothero picking up the VillainBall, but it seems reckless compared to everything else Norsefire did ( such as conquering England, maintaining order after nuclear war, and treating V as a serious threat).



[[WMG: The nuclear war responsible for wiping out much of the world was partly due to the Russians realizing that [[spoiler: the aliens from ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' weren't really coming.]]]]

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[[WMG: The nuclear war responsible for wiping out much of the world was partly due to the Russians realizing that [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the aliens from ''ComicBook/{{Watchmen}}'' weren't really coming.]]]]



Evey forgives V awfully quickly (4 pages) after he [[spoiler: tortures her to the edge of death.]] It's feasible to assume that Evey suffers from Stockholm Syndrome based on how quickly she resumes her admiration of him.

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Evey forgives V awfully quickly (4 pages) after he [[spoiler: tortures [[spoiler:tortures her to the edge of death.]] It's feasible to assume that Evey suffers from Stockholm Syndrome based on how quickly she resumes her admiration of him.
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He resigned because he saw what was coming. After escaping from the Village, he began building his secret base, initially with the help of the mute Butler. He made up the whole backstory of the man who is VI-one, then killed off everyone who could expose it.

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He resigned because he saw what was coming. After escaping from the Village, he began building his secret base, initially with the help of the mute Butler. He made up the whole backstory of the man who is VI-one, VI minus one, then killed off everyone who could expose it.
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[[WMG: You asked for it! V is Number Six, Series/ThePrisoner1967]]
He resigned because he saw what was coming. After escaping from the Village, he began building his secret base, initially with the help of the mute Butler. He made up the whole backstory of the man who is VI-one, then killed off everyone who could expose it.

[[WMG: V IS Creator/AleisterCrowley]]
Of course he keeps quoting from Thelemic Holy Books. He faked his death, while prolonging his life with Dark Magic. He was sociopathic enough to come up with all the sadistic things he does to people. He was never the man in Room V, that was a typically Crowleyesque MultipleChoicePast. ("Kill a dozen people just to protect a cover story? That would be..." "Madness, Leader?")
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[[WMG: V is of Non-Whithe ethnicity]]
In Dr Surridge's journal, room V prisoner is described as "ugly", but when she asks to see his face again on her dying bed, she aknowledges it as "beautiful". Most racist people deem non-european facial traits as "ugly" just because of racial prejudice: V could have been an individual from any non-white ethnicity, sent to Larkhill becaus of his race, who was classicaly good-looking, but it was only after her HeelRealization that she overcame her prejudice and was able to recognize it.
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* Alternatively, since [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified The Revolution]] Of Anonymous People [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified Will Not Be Vilified]], the anonymous V's in the film or Evey in the graphic novel become Big Brother (it is also possible that the Proles also remained in anarchy or merged with V and the Revolution, since in 1984 proles and animals are free). The people who opted for a totalitarian state were just given what they wanted: a totalitarian state turned UpToEleven. Oh, and Winston Smith is supposed to be a replacement Evey.

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* Alternatively, since [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified The Revolution]] Of Anonymous People [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified Will Not Be Vilified]], the anonymous V's in the film or Evey in the graphic novel become Big Brother (it is also possible that the Proles also remained in anarchy or merged with V and the Revolution, since in 1984 proles and animals are free). The people who opted for a totalitarian state were just given what they wanted: a totalitarian state turned UpToEleven.up to eleven. Oh, and Winston Smith is supposed to be a replacement Evey.
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** There's a trope for that!: YouHaveToHaveJews. (Also, I've got to say, I've gotten so used to people using the historical present when talking about fiction -- ie., everything is put in the present tense -- I get all wibbly when I see someone using the past tense in an otherwise-appropriate context.)

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** There's a trope for that!: YouHaveToHaveJews. (Also, I've got to say, I've gotten so used to people using the historical present when talking about fiction -- ie., everything is put in the present tense -- I get all wibbly when I see someone using the past tense in an otherwise-appropriate context.)
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* Alternatively, since [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified The Revolution]] [[{{GIFT}} Of Anonymous People]] [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified Will Not Be Vilified]], the anonymous V's in the film or Evey in the graphic novel become Big Brother (it is also possible that the Proles also remained in anarchy or merged with V and the Revolution, since in 1984 proles and animals are free). The people who opted for a totalitarian state were just given what they wanted: a totalitarian state turned UpToEleven. Oh, and Winston Smith is supposed to be a replacement Evey.

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* Alternatively, since [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified The Revolution]] [[{{GIFT}} Of Anonymous People]] People [[TheRevolutionWillNotBeVilified Will Not Be Vilified]], the anonymous V's in the film or Evey in the graphic novel become Big Brother (it is also possible that the Proles also remained in anarchy or merged with V and the Revolution, since in 1984 proles and animals are free). The people who opted for a totalitarian state were just given what they wanted: a totalitarian state turned UpToEleven. Oh, and Winston Smith is supposed to be a replacement Evey.



[[{{GIFT}} Well because people will be inspired by V's anonymity and with that anonymity, will do what Anonymous does]]. After all, Norsefire or No Norsefire, HumansAreBastards.

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[[{{GIFT}} Well because people will be inspired by V's anonymity and with that anonymity, will do what Anonymous does]].does. After all, Norsefire or No Norsefire, HumansAreBastards.
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** Doesn't he? V destroys his cell using only gardening utensils and decoration. Even Series/MacGyver would have trouble pulling that off. Using piles of dirt and strategically placed candles for it seems just like the kind of thing a mage could pull off...

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** Doesn't he? V destroys his cell using only gardening utensils and decoration. Even Series/MacGyver Series/{{MacGyver|1985}} would have trouble pulling that off. Using piles of dirt and strategically placed candles for it seems just like the kind of thing a mage could pull off...
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[[WMG: V really is Hugo Weaving]]
In the movie at least, That is why he felt so strongly about Valerie, being a fellow actor, his time at the camp had literally caused him to focus on being as theatrical as possible.
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[[WMG: The actor playing Sutler on Dietrich's show was [[CelebrityParadox John Hurt]]]]

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*** You are assuming that Lesbian = Transsexual. It doesn't. It's actually more likely that Delia might have referred to her as a "man" because someone like her would consider lesbians unfeminine.

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*** You are assuming that [[TransEqualsGay Lesbian = Transsexual.Transsexual]]. It doesn't. It's actually more likely that Delia might have referred to her as a "man" because someone like her would consider lesbians unfeminine.


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*** Well, UsefulNotes/{{Iran}} is notoriously homophobic, and it lets people get sex changes. However, this has led to a bunch of gay people being pressured to get SRS...
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[[WMG: V is in reality Evey Hammond’s younger brother]]

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