History WMG / ToyStory

14th Aug '16 10:44:16 AM nombretomado
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* I support ''[[TheDivineComedy Dante's Inferno]].'' The Attic is purgatory - the toys believe it will come to an end but they don't know how long it will take. Sunnyside is more complicated. In its best state it's more like a first level of Hell (a place for virtuous pagans and the unbaptised). This is where your punishment is basically knowing you're living in a deficient form of Heaven. Under Lotso, it's a much lower level - even in the Butterfly room you're living in fear of the Toy Gestapo, and in the Caterpillar Room you're being beaten and mistreated. But it's still better than the Dump, which is the deepest circle of the Inferno, from which you cannot escape.

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* I support ''[[TheDivineComedy ''[[Literature/TheDivineComedy Dante's Inferno]].'' The Attic is purgatory - the toys believe it will come to an end but they don't know how long it will take. Sunnyside is more complicated. In its best state it's more like a first level of Hell (a place for virtuous pagans and the unbaptised). This is where your punishment is basically knowing you're living in a deficient form of Heaven. Under Lotso, it's a much lower level - even in the Butterfly room you're living in fear of the Toy Gestapo, and in the Caterpillar Room you're being beaten and mistreated. But it's still better than the Dump, which is the deepest circle of the Inferno, from which you cannot escape.
10th Jul '16 6:39:31 PM concernedalien11780
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-------- * They always could, but I don't think that they'd make a bust on Robot Chicken in a way that would mean "Robot Chicken is bad and you are bad for liking it". I'm sure that a handful of Pixar employees are fans of the show, given that plenty of people that make or star in films for the studio have worked in edgier things in the past and just slightly clean up their humor for Pixar. They might include something more of the Affectionate Parody kind of reference, but nothing meant to genuinely shame anyone working on the show or anyone who likes it. Also, I'm pretty sure that Seth Green, Matt Seinreich, and almost everyone else working on the show are fans of Pixar, the Toy Story films in particular, and that Toy Story, if only indirectly, influenced the creation of the show, given that Seth Green's love of toy collecting goes long before Robot Chicken ever came on. Robot Chicken's Toy Story 4 sketch only did what the show does and applied it to Toy Story- use a ridiculous, over-the-top scenario to make fun of some potential Fridge Logic the show provides, in this case how the definition of "toy" changes when you get to a certain age. I'm sure that Seth, Matt, and the rest of the writing/acting team on Robot Chicken would love to see the show parodied in a movie like Toy Story 4, and they might even add their voices and write additional story material for such a parody.
3rd Jul '16 1:40:33 PM TT454
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*** How delusional do you have to be ''actually suggest that''?
8th Jun '16 7:35:22 PM Garfieldisnumberone
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[[WMG: ToyStory4 will have some type of TakeThat towards WesternAnimation/RobotChicken]]
To finally get the show back for the [[DudeNotFunny godawful "Toy Story 4" sketch]]
7th Jun '16 2:44:59 PM Morgenthaler
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* WillWright and [[WebVideo/JeepersMedia Mike Mozart]] seem to think he's perfect for it.

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* WillWright Creator/WillWright and [[WebVideo/JeepersMedia Mike Mozart]] seem to think he's perfect for it.
8th May '16 9:44:54 PM nombretomado
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The films take place in the same universe as ''HomeImprovement'', evidenced by the Binford tool box in Sid's room in the first film. ''[[ShowWithinAShow Tool Time]]'' host Tim Taylor was at some point hired to be the voice of Buzz Lightyear for all the toys and tv shows. The scene in an episode of HomeImprovement where Tim plays with his niece's Buzz toy is him knowingly playing with ''Buzz Lightyear'' merchandise from the character voiced by himself, instead of ''Toy Story'' merchandise of a character voiced by Tim Allen.

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The films take place in the same universe as ''HomeImprovement'', ''Series/HomeImprovement'', evidenced by the Binford tool box in Sid's room in the first film. ''[[ShowWithinAShow Tool Time]]'' host Tim Taylor was at some point hired to be the voice of Buzz Lightyear for all the toys and tv shows. The scene in an episode of HomeImprovement ''Home Improvement'' where Tim plays with his niece's Buzz toy is him knowingly playing with ''Buzz Lightyear'' merchandise from the character voiced by himself, instead of ''Toy Story'' merchandise of a character voiced by Tim Allen.
3rd May '16 4:51:55 PM TheOneWhoTropes
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TL;DR: The entire thing is [[VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi Umineko]], for kids.

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TL;DR: The entire thing is [[VisualNovel/UminekoNoNakuKoroNi [[VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry Umineko]], for kids.
10th Mar '16 5:45:26 AM MrCandle
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As stated above, It is this troper's opinion that the trilogy is about the life and death of Woody, and his life is specifically defined as his relationship with Andy. The movie begins with he and the other toys facing the end of this relationship, which is their lives, and what will happen after. The movie presents several possibilities, and they are:

The Attic = Heaven, or rather FluffyCloudHeaven or Straw Man Heaven: In this scenario, it is discussed that once the toys' lives effectively end, (no longer played with by andy because he's at college,) the toys expect to all go into the attic together. The attic is a place above andy's room, that is, like heaven, above where they lived. In this state, they will be together, and able to enjoy each other's company, and engage in fun diversions, like games, books and television. That is reminiscent of meeting your loved ones in heaven and being with them always. The toys even expect to be in the company of religious figures in the attic. Woody mentions that they'll get to hang out full time with "the guys from the Christmas decorations box." to which the other toys are noticeably Meh on. When we remember that a very common decoration for Christmas is a nativity set, which includes figurines of religious icons, it seems the toys will be with saints in their attic. But the toys are noticeably less than totally thrilled about going to the attic. while they would be together, they would not be played with by children, which is a toy's main reason for being. and this state is perpetual one. remember from the second movie we know that toys can potentially live forever if they are not destroyed. As far as these toys are concerned they will be in this attic forever just existing without purpose, meaning ennui is bound to set in, which is a common criticism for how many interpret heaven to be.

So while the attic isn't a thrilling prospect, the toys initially assume it is their best option. But circumstance means that that's not where they end up, as next they come face to face with...

Sunnyside Daycare = Hell: (note: another troper may come here and disagree, and say that it actually represents purgatory. And that's fine. I can see a case for that interpretation. but for this guess, I think it's Hell and I'll explain why.) The alternative the day care, which at first seems like a blessing but turns out to be anything but. Like the Attic, Daycare is a perpetual state: nothing stopping them from being daycare toys for all time. But here we see the polar opposite of the attic. While the attic promised everlasting togetherness with no play or struggle or anything that makes life interesting, the daycare offers ONLY play and struggle and pain and everything that makes life interesting but with nothing that makes it all worth while. They can't form relationships with the kids that play with them, and it really is only all torment. Nor can they turn to each other for comfort, as they are locked away separately. And they are all under the thumb of a selfish and brutal dictator who will not let them go because it makes his everlasting suffering slightly more tolerable, (yes, Lotso REALLY IS the devil himself.)

After struggle, the toys escape to a third place, which may either be the worst one yet, or surprisingly, an unexpected reprieve. Yes, I mean...

The Dump/The Incinerator = Annihilation/Oblivion/No Afterlife at All: (Again, I don't blame anyone who thinks that no, this is actually Hell. The imagery is certainly there. I just happen to disagree, here's why.) After the possibility of togetherness but pointlessness, and the possibility of ongoing torment, comes the possibility of complete destruction. The toys react with initial mortal terror, as complete destruction is indeed an on the surface very scary concept. There are several times they could be destroyed, but manage to just barely scrape by by the skin of their teeth. But at the very end, falling into the pit, no way out, and no hope of rescue, the toys, starting with Buzz, have a change in attitude. They accept it and intend to go out together, with dignity. The look on Buzz's face seems to say it all. Even if they escaped, where would the go? to lives of unending meaninglessness? [[TheAntiNihilist They realize that they were there for Andy, and as such lived full lives, and wanting more is not necessary.]] The toys acceptance of this end perfectly encapsulates why [[WhoWantstoLiveForever some people find the idea of simple nothingness after death more comforting than an afterlife]]. You've lived your life well, there's nothing more to want.

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As stated above, It it is this troper's opinion that the trilogy is about the life and death of Woody, and his life is specifically defined as his relationship with Andy. The movie begins with he and the other toys facing the end of this relationship, which is their lives, and what will happen after. The movie presents several possibilities, and they are:

The Attic = Heaven, or rather FluffyCloudHeaven or Straw Man Heaven: In this scenario, it is discussed that once the toys' lives effectively end, (no longer played with by andy Andy because he's at college,) the toys expect to all go into the attic together. The attic is a place above andy's Andy's room, that is, like heaven, Heaven, above where they lived. In this state, they will be together, and able to enjoy each other's company, and engage in fun diversions, like games, books and television. That is reminiscent of meeting your loved ones in heaven Heaven and being with them always. The toys even expect to be in the company of religious figures in the attic. Woody mentions that they'll get to hang out full time with "the guys from the Christmas decorations box." to which the other toys are noticeably Meh "meh" on. When we remember that a very common decoration for Christmas is a nativity set, which includes figurines of religious icons, it seems the toys will be with saints in their attic. But the toys are noticeably less than totally thrilled about going to the attic. while While they would be together, they would not be played with by children, which is a toy's main reason for being. being; and this state is a perpetual one. remember Remember from the second movie we know that the toys can potentially live forever if they are not destroyed. destroyed? As far as these toys are concerned concerned, they will be in this attic forever just existing without purpose, meaning purpose. This means that ennui is bound to set in, which is a common criticism for how many interpret heaven Heaven to be.

So while While the attic isn't a thrilling prospect, the toys initially assume that it is their best option. But circumstance means However, certain circumstances mean that that's it's not where they end up, as next they come face to face with...

Sunnyside Daycare = Hell: (note: another troper may come here and disagree, and say that it actually represents purgatory. And that's Purgatory--that's fine. I can see a case for that interpretation. but for For this guess, however, I think it's Hell and I'll explain why.) The alternative is the day care, daycare, which at first seems like a blessing but turns out to be anything but. Like the Attic, Daycare attic, daycare is a perpetual state: nothing stopping them from being daycare toys for all time.forever. But here we see the polar opposite of the attic. While the attic promised everlasting togetherness with no play or struggle or anything that makes life interesting, the daycare offers ONLY play and struggle and pain and everything that makes life interesting but with nothing that makes it all worth while.worthwhile. They can't form relationships with the kids that play with them, and it really is only all torment. Nor can they They cannot turn to each other for comfort, as they are have been locked away separately. And they They are all under the thumb of a selfish and brutal dictator who will not let them go because it makes his everlasting suffering slightly more tolerable, (yes, tolerable. (Yes, Lotso REALLY IS the devil Devil himself.)

After the struggle, the toys escape to a third place, which may either be the worst one yet, or surprisingly, an unexpected reprieve. Yes, I mean...

The Dump/The Incinerator = Annihilation/Oblivion/No Afterlife at All: (Again, I don't blame anyone who thinks that no, this is actually Hell. The imagery is certainly there. I just happen to disagree, here's why.) After the possibility of togetherness but pointlessness, and the possibility of ongoing torment, comes the possibility of complete destruction. The toys react with initial mortal terror, as complete destruction is indeed an indeed, on the surface surface, a very scary concept. There are several times they could be destroyed, but manage managed to just barely scrape by by the skin of their teeth. But at At the very end, however, falling into the pit, no way out, and no hope of rescue, the toys, starting with Buzz, have a change in attitude. They accept it and intend to go out together, with dignity. The look on Buzz's face seems to say it all. Even if they escaped, where would the they go? to To lives of unending meaninglessness? [[TheAntiNihilist They realize that they were there for Andy, and as such lived full lives, and wanting more is not necessary.]] The toys toys' acceptance of this end perfectly encapsulates why [[WhoWantstoLiveForever some people find the idea of simple nothingness after death more comforting than an afterlife]]. You've lived your life well, there's nothing more to want.



Bonnie's house = Reincarnation: Andy lovingly hands his toys over to a young child. The toys see their two lives briefly meeting as Andy has a final play session with Bonnie, and then leaves. Now, Woody can finally say good bye. But in the spirited young Bonnie, the toys find a new relationship, and begin life anew, and find purpose again. It is a wonderful ending, but also a realization. yes, this solution does not offer the eternalness that the attic and the day care does, and when Bonnie grows up the toys will again be back in the same boat. But this experience has changed woody's outlook on such things. he no longer need fear death or want to find a final solution, but rather, to find joy in each wonderful knew situation, each wonderful new child, each new life, and to learn from them all. He no longer needs Andy to be his everything. Bonnie will love him and he her, but when she is done he and his friends will move on, with new life, hope and confidence.

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Bonnie's house = Reincarnation: Andy lovingly hands his toys over to a young child. The toys see their two lives briefly meeting as Andy has a final play session with Bonnie, and then leaves. Now, Woody can finally say good bye.goodbye. But in the spirited young Bonnie, the toys find a new relationship, and begin life anew, and find purpose again. It is a wonderful ending, but also a realization. yes, this solution does not offer the eternalness that the attic and the day care does, and when Bonnie grows up the toys will again be back in the same boat. But this experience has changed woody's outlook on such things. he no longer need fear death or want to find a final solution, but rather, to find joy in each wonderful knew situation, each wonderful new child, each new life, and to learn from them all. He no longer needs Andy to be his everything. Bonnie will love him and he her, but when she is done he and his friends will move on, with new life, hope and confidence.



Reformed Daycare = (maybe) True/Properly understood Heaven: The movie is pretty harsh on traditional views of both heaven and hell, but in the end credits, seeing the reformed Sunnyside daycare under Barbie and Ken, does offer a hopeful interpretation of an eternal state, suggesting that maybe after all, instead of the "attic" heaven described above, perhaps heaven is a place where you can be with friends and cared for forever WHILE still having a purpose and meaning to your existence, as seen in the restructured and better play scenes with the children. As you may have guessed, this is the aspect I've been able to develop the least.

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Reformed Daycare = (maybe) True/Properly understood Heaven: The movie is pretty harsh on traditional views of both heaven Heaven and hell, Hell, but in the end credits, seeing the reformed Sunnyside daycare Daycare under Barbie and Ken, does offer a hopeful interpretation of an eternal state, suggesting that maybe after all, instead of the "attic" heaven Heaven described above, perhaps heaven Heaven is a place where you can be with friends and cared for forever WHILE while still having a purpose and meaning to your existence, as seen in the restructured and better play scenes with the children. As you may have guessed, this is the aspect I've been able to develop the least.
10th Mar '16 5:21:04 AM MrCandle
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And so, the third movie is about Woody's death, (the end of his relationship with Andy,) and what potentially comes after, but that deserves it's own entry.

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And so, the third movie is about Woody's death, (the end of his relationship with Andy,) and what potentially comes after, but that deserves it's its own entry.
12th Feb '16 12:42:39 PM erforce
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[[WMG:[[Main/{{Shooter}} Senator Meachum was reincarnated in the form of Lotso. Alternately, Lotso was possessed by Senator Meachum's ghost sometime after being abandoned by Daisy.]]]]

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[[WMG:[[Main/{{Shooter}} [[WMG:[[Film/{{Shooter}} Senator Meachum was reincarnated in the form of Lotso. Alternately, Lotso was possessed by Senator Meachum's ghost sometime after being abandoned by Daisy.]]]]
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