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13th Mar '17 2:19:40 PM PrimeEvil
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* Confirmed by Roger Waters in an interview. The Thin Ice-Comfortably Numb is a flashback.

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* Confirmed by Roger Waters in an interview. The Thin Ice-Comfortably Numb is a flashback.flashback.

[[WMG: Pink's night with the groupie isn't the first time he's lashed out like that.]]
We never really see Pink being, y'know, [[InformedAbility a rock star]], but the words "*one of* my bad days" indicate that he's done this before. It's entirely possible that Pink's own bandmates have had to bear the brunt of his rage. [[NightmareFuel Possibly several times]].
5th Feb '17 12:18:40 AM DanielCase
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In the movie, the long guitar solo is the [[BodyHorror]] moment where we see Pink reborn as a fascist after ... imagining himself being devoured by worms or maggots.

Everything afterwards, Side 4, where Pink becomes (or doesn't become) a fascist, and is then put on trial, seems fantastic enough to be a [[Dying Dream]].

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In the movie, the long guitar solo is the [[BodyHorror]] BodyHorror moment where we see Pink reborn as a fascist after ... imagining himself being devoured by worms or maggots.

Everything afterwards, Side 4, where Pink becomes (or doesn't become) a fascist, and is then put on trial, seems fantastic enough to be a [[Dying Dream]].
DyingDream, until he is exposed before his peers.
5th Feb '17 12:16:50 AM DanielCase
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[[WMG: Pink actually dies during "Comfortably Numb"]]

The lyrics to the chorus certainly suggest this: an interlocutor the singer knows is talking but can't hear, who is "''only coming through in waves''" while the singer waxes Wordsworthian about his childhood, feeling perhaps for the first time ever "no pain." And death sounds like a comfortable numbness. "''A distant ship, smoke on the horizon''" suggests the singer is parting with the world for a long time, perhaps for good. Musically, the rising string arpeggios underneath suggest some sort of transcendence or ascent.

And could the doctor, sung by Waters in the verse, really be a {{Psychopomp}}: "''There'll be no more AAAAAAAAAAHHHH!! ... Come on, it's time to go''"

In the movie, the long guitar solo is the [[BodyHorror]] moment where we see Pink reborn as a fascist after ... imagining himself being devoured by worms or maggots.

Everything afterwards, Side 4, where Pink becomes (or doesn't become) a fascist, and is then put on trial, seems fantastic enough to be a [[Dying Dream]].
22nd Jan '17 2:46:22 AM SquackweetyDweef
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This is relying on there being some vague level of reality in these songs. The concert Pink gets driven to after "Comfortably Numb" is actually the one briefly seen during the movie's opening. While the audience expected him to preform songs from his latest album ([[MythologyGag Animals?]]), he instead performs some new songs that sound…off. He ends up breaking into hate speech, only for the audience to go along with it, since his position, both in their minds and in the show, is that of a god. This is why The Hammer already seems to have a considerable base by the start of "In The Flesh", including a skinhead escort, and his fans already know the...[[PuttingOnTheReich questionable]] [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything dance moves]].

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This is relying on there being some vague level of reality in these songs. The concert Pink gets driven to after "Comfortably Numb" is actually the one briefly seen during the movie's opening. While the audience expected him to preform songs from his latest album ([[MythologyGag Animals?]]), he instead performs some new songs that sound…off. He ends up breaking into hate speech, only for the audience to go along with it, since his position, both in their minds and in the show, is that of a god. This is why The Hammer already seems to have a considerable base by the start of "In The Flesh", including a skinhead escort, and his fans already know the...[[PuttingOnTheReich questionable]] [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything dance moves]].moves]].
* Confirmed by Roger Waters in an interview. The Thin Ice-Comfortably Numb is a flashback.
12th Dec '16 10:12:46 AM Sorio99
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Or, possibly, simply judged crazy.

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Or, possibly, simply judged crazy.crazy.

[[WMG: "In The Flesh?" is from the concert right before "In The Flesh", at least in the movie.]]
This is relying on there being some vague level of reality in these songs. The concert Pink gets driven to after "Comfortably Numb" is actually the one briefly seen during the movie's opening. While the audience expected him to preform songs from his latest album ([[MythologyGag Animals?]]), he instead performs some new songs that sound…off. He ends up breaking into hate speech, only for the audience to go along with it, since his position, both in their minds and in the show, is that of a god. This is why The Hammer already seems to have a considerable base by the start of "In The Flesh", including a skinhead escort, and his fans already know the...[[PuttingOnTheReich questionable]] [[DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything dance moves]].
8th Jun '16 11:44:36 AM SquackweetyDweef
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** I like it! It fits in with my preferred reading of the end of "Mother." At the end, he heard about her death, and at her grave, he can only say, "Mother, did it need to be so high?" (Substitute whatever you feel for this: if you prefer, it might make more sense for him to see it on TV while he's on tour; he would then say this to himself, as if talking to Heaven.)

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** I like it! It fits in with my preferred reading of the end of "Mother." At the end, he heard about her death, and at her grave, he can only say, "Mother, did it need to be so high?" (Substitute whatever you feel for this: if you prefer, it might make more sense for him to see it on TV while he's on tour; he would then say this to himself, as if talking to Heaven.))
** I thought that all along the first time I saw it, particularly in the scene where Pink is alone in bed and hugs the pillow.

[[WMG: The Trial sequence is a real trial]]
And Pink is being judged for the crimes he committed during the neo-nazi period and possibly, the "exposed before your peers" means that he'll be exposed to his peers (criminals) in prison but in prison he starts breaking the Wall as the prisonerd (some of them) are people that went through a hard time like him that just want to help and don't judge persons.
Or, possibly, simply judged crazy.
16th Oct '15 3:40:15 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Pink is everything PinkFloyd isn't]]

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[[WMG: Pink is everything PinkFloyd Music/PinkFloyd isn't]]
16th Dec '14 10:10:25 PM PrimeEvil
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After ''Mother'', we don't get any more mention of Pink's Mom until ''The Trial'' (Which is happening mentally, I remind you, and is the second-to-last song on the album). Odds are, Pink's mom died some time shortly after ''Mother'', which, to my guess, happens before he makes it big with his Band. It would also explain why he ended up marrying someone he wasn't truly happy with (and who cheated on him just as much as he cheated on her), and why he didn't go hide at his mother's house when he was trying to avoid people and publicity.

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After ''Mother'', we don't get any more mention of Pink's Mom until ''The Trial'' (Which is happening mentally, I remind you, and is the second-to-last song on the album). Odds are, Pink's mom died some time shortly after ''Mother'', which, to my guess, happens before he makes it big with his Band. It would also explain why he ended up marrying someone he wasn't truly happy with (and who cheated on him just as much as he cheated on her), and why he didn't go hide at his mother's house when he was trying to avoid people and publicity.publicity.
** I like it! It fits in with my preferred reading of the end of "Mother." At the end, he heard about her death, and at her grave, he can only say, "Mother, did it need to be so high?" (Substitute whatever you feel for this: if you prefer, it might make more sense for him to see it on TV while he's on tour; he would then say this to himself, as if talking to Heaven.)
14th Oct '14 9:33:46 AM DingoWalley1
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* That [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness makes a scary amount of sense...]]

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* That [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness makes a scary amount of sense...]]]]

[[WMG: Pink's Mom is Dead through most of the Album]]
After ''Mother'', we don't get any more mention of Pink's Mom until ''The Trial'' (Which is happening mentally, I remind you, and is the second-to-last song on the album). Odds are, Pink's mom died some time shortly after ''Mother'', which, to my guess, happens before he makes it big with his Band. It would also explain why he ended up marrying someone he wasn't truly happy with (and who cheated on him just as much as he cheated on her), and why he didn't go hide at his mother's house when he was trying to avoid people and publicity.
15th Aug '14 9:23:35 PM CJCroen1393
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Pink was so drugged up that he ''thought'' they were, but in reality, everyone was horrified.

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Pink was so drugged up that he ''thought'' they were, but in reality, everyone was horrified.horrified.
* That [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness makes a scary amount of sense...]]
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