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16th Oct '15 3:40:15 PM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Pink is everything PinkFloyd isn't]]

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[[WMG: Pink is everything PinkFloyd Music/PinkFloyd isn't]]
16th Dec '14 10:10:25 PM PrimeEvil
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After ''Mother'', we don't get any more mention of Pink's Mom until ''The Trial'' (Which is happening mentally, I remind you, and is the second-to-last song on the album). Odds are, Pink's mom died some time shortly after ''Mother'', which, to my guess, happens before he makes it big with his Band. It would also explain why he ended up marrying someone he wasn't truly happy with (and who cheated on him just as much as he cheated on her), and why he didn't go hide at his mother's house when he was trying to avoid people and publicity.

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After ''Mother'', we don't get any more mention of Pink's Mom until ''The Trial'' (Which is happening mentally, I remind you, and is the second-to-last song on the album). Odds are, Pink's mom died some time shortly after ''Mother'', which, to my guess, happens before he makes it big with his Band. It would also explain why he ended up marrying someone he wasn't truly happy with (and who cheated on him just as much as he cheated on her), and why he didn't go hide at his mother's house when he was trying to avoid people and publicity.publicity.
** I like it! It fits in with my preferred reading of the end of "Mother." At the end, he heard about her death, and at her grave, he can only say, "Mother, did it need to be so high?" (Substitute whatever you feel for this: if you prefer, it might make more sense for him to see it on TV while he's on tour; he would then say this to himself, as if talking to Heaven.)
14th Oct '14 9:33:46 AM DingoWalley1
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* That [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness makes a scary amount of sense...]]

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* That [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness makes a scary amount of sense...]]]]

[[WMG: Pink's Mom is Dead through most of the Album]]
After ''Mother'', we don't get any more mention of Pink's Mom until ''The Trial'' (Which is happening mentally, I remind you, and is the second-to-last song on the album). Odds are, Pink's mom died some time shortly after ''Mother'', which, to my guess, happens before he makes it big with his Band. It would also explain why he ended up marrying someone he wasn't truly happy with (and who cheated on him just as much as he cheated on her), and why he didn't go hide at his mother's house when he was trying to avoid people and publicity.
15th Aug '14 9:23:35 PM CJCroen1393
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Pink was so drugged up that he ''thought'' they were, but in reality, everyone was horrified.

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Pink was so drugged up that he ''thought'' they were, but in reality, everyone was horrified.horrified.
* That [[ThroughTheEyesOfMadness makes a scary amount of sense...]]
8th Jul '14 5:52:38 PM RADIX
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He's a pop star, a lead singer who doesn't write the songs he sings. He hit the big time at a young age, and threw himself into the dream with abandon. Because his teacher ridiculed his early attempts as "absolute rubbish," Pink never gained the confidence to write socially-conscious lyrics; anyway, being a lead singer is a safer bet for the record label. Now, many years later, something is badly, badly wrong. He can't "shake off this creeping malaise" that he could be so much ''more'' than he is. Sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll have zero effect on him.

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He's a pop star, a lead singer who doesn't write the songs he sings. He hit the big time at a young age, and threw himself into the dream with abandon. Because his teacher ridiculed his early attempts as "absolute rubbish," Pink never gained the confidence to write socially-conscious lyrics; anyway, being a lead singer is a safer bet for the record label. Now, many years later, something is badly, badly wrong. He can't "shake off this creeping malaise" that he could be so much ''more'' than he is. Sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll have zero effect on him.him.

[[WMG: The crowd wasn't actually cheering on the fascist concert.]]
Pink was so drugged up that he ''thought'' they were, but in reality, everyone was horrified.
7th Jul '14 7:32:18 PM bluesno1fann
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In Tommy's version of events, the father survived the war in a POW camp and returned, only to engage his wife's new husband in a fight to the death, which traumatized Tommy and made him enter into a near-catatonic state. When cured of this state, he briefly becomes a quasi-religious figure, protected by guards that assault Sally Simpson when she tries to get up on stage with him. In Pink's version of the events, the father died, and Pink's many negative experiences led him to build a "wall" around himself to keep others out. As he descends deeper into psychosis, he imagines himself as a fascistic dictator. This sequence grew out of Roger Waters' concern at having once spit at a disruptive fan at a concert, similar to the incident with Sally Simpson depicted in The Who's rock opera.

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In Tommy's version of events, the father survived the war in a POW camp and returned, only to engage his wife's new husband in a fight to the death, which traumatized Tommy and made him enter into a near-catatonic state. When cured of this state, he briefly becomes a quasi-religious figure, protected by guards that assault Sally Simpson when she tries to get up on stage with him. In Pink's version of the events, the father died, and Pink's many negative experiences led him to build a "wall" around himself to keep others out. As he descends deeper into psychosis, he imagines himself as a fascistic dictator. This sequence grew out of Roger Waters' Music/RogerWaters' concern at having once spit at a disruptive fan at a concert, similar to the incident with Sally Simpson depicted in The Who's rock opera.
7th Jul '14 7:32:06 PM bluesno1fann
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** No, Welcome to the Machine is about Syd Barrett. The entirety of Wish You Were Here was made as a tribute to Syd.

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** No, Welcome to the Machine is about Syd Barrett.Music/SydBarrett. The entirety of Wish You Were Here was made as a tribute to Syd.
22nd Mar '14 10:12:30 PM PrimeEvil
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We all need this from time to time. One gets the feeling that Pink probably isn't used to this much introspection (again, he's a casualty of how our society has become), and that's why he's so frantic to get out at first. By the time he learns how to just go with the tide, the roadies interrupt him.

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We all need this from time to time. One gets the feeling that Pink probably isn't used to this much introspection (again, he's a casualty of how our society has become), and that's why he's so frantic to get out at first. By the time he learns how to just go with the tide, the roadies interrupt him.him.

[[WMG: Pink is everything PinkFloyd isn't]]
He's a pop star, a lead singer who doesn't write the songs he sings. He hit the big time at a young age, and threw himself into the dream with abandon. Because his teacher ridiculed his early attempts as "absolute rubbish," Pink never gained the confidence to write socially-conscious lyrics; anyway, being a lead singer is a safer bet for the record label. Now, many years later, something is badly, badly wrong. He can't "shake off this creeping malaise" that he could be so much ''more'' than he is. Sex, drugs, and rock'n'roll have zero effect on him.
12th Nov '13 10:20:52 PM EarlOfSandvich
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\n** It would have to be Tommy from the film, since the original Rock Opera had his father missing through World War I (thus the third song being "1921"), and the film starts off just around World War II (thus it's "1951").
9th Sep '13 6:33:00 AM PrimeEvil
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Both works have a central theme of isolation, building the wall that keeps us apart. The Wall is simply Pink's version of Instrumentality, with the Trial obviously being at the center of the Third Impact, which is all about destroying the wall that keeps us separated.

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Both works have a central theme of isolation, building the wall that keeps us apart. The Wall is simply Pink's version of Instrumentality, with the Trial obviously being at the center of the Third Impact, which is all about destroying the wall that keeps us separated.separated.

[[WMG: Pink just needed some time away to figure things out.]]
We all need this from time to time. One gets the feeling that Pink probably isn't used to this much introspection (again, he's a casualty of how our society has become), and that's why he's so frantic to get out at first. By the time he learns how to just go with the tide, the roadies interrupt him.
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