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27th Mar '17 5:23:45 AM DoktorvonEurotrash
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** If this is true, he might end up arching Dean (who seems more likely to follow in their father's footsteps), creating yet another CainAndAbel dynamic.
7th Mar '17 1:13:10 PM DoktorvonEurotrash
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* {{Jossed}}. A battle did happen on board Gargantua-2, but it was in a special after Season 5, and [[spoiler:the Sovereign wasn't involved. The station did get destroyed, though.]] NOTE TO THE POSTER ABOVE: [[spoiler:The Sovereign]] was involved, but wasn't personally on the station.

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* {{Jossed}}. A battle did happen on board Gargantua-2, but it was in a special after Season 5, and [[spoiler:the Sovereign wasn't involved. The station did get destroyed, though.]] NOTE TO THE POSTER ABOVE: '''Note to the poster below:''' [[spoiler:The Sovereign]] was involved, but wasn't personally on the station.
5th Mar '17 11:58:38 AM nombretomado
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[[WMG: Brock Samson is the son of [[MarvelComics Doc Samson]].]]

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[[WMG: Brock Samson is the son of [[MarvelComics [[Creator/MarvelComics Doc Samson]].]]
13th Feb '17 12:22:26 PM MattP5557
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13th Feb '17 12:22:23 PM MattP5557
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* Wasn't he at his key party in "Dr. Quymn Medicine Woman".




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*** The Blue Morpho, I refuse to believe that plane crash was an accident.



*** WesternAnimation/RickAndMorty



He shared their traits of shapeshifting, vague but immense powers, and [[SharpDressedMan snappy suit]].

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He shared their traits of shapeshifting, vague but immense powers, and [[SharpDressedMan snappy suit]].suit]].

[[WMG: Jonas Venture Sr. was an alien]]

In "Twenty Years to Midnight" an alien took his form to kill The Grand Galactic Inquisitor, that aliens backstory was never told. Then in "All this and Gargantua 2" the Sovereign took his form in front of Dr Girlfriend for no real reason since she had no strong connection to him, maybe Dr Venture is the species "default" human form and when The Sovereign came to earth he realized that another member of his species had already made an identity for that form so he settled on Music/DavidBowie.

[[WMG: The Sovereign is Rusty's mother]]

It was said below that it was the boy's mother but if he really attended Jonas Sr's key party's as implied in "Dr Quymn Medicine Woman".
3rd Feb '17 11:31:03 AM StFan
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Think about it. The old guild as shown in the ORB episode has a Dr Venture, obviously Rusty's grandfather. It also has Sandow, who is similar to Brock. We have Crowley, who might just be the same person as Orpheus (master necromancer dodging death is not that much of a stretch), if not his grandfather. We have Samuel Clemens[=/=]Creator/MarkTwain, dressed all in white with albino hair, an openly gay sarcastic yet cheerful Creator/OscarWilde, French pulp villain Fantomas... The parallels are all over the place.
* With the exception of Fantomas/Phantom Limb, it appears that the connections are spiritual/allegorical rather than literal. In any case, Orpheus is a much nicer person than the real Crowley seemed to be.
* It was already confirmed that Phantom Limb is the descendant of Fantomas in "The Invisible Hand Of Fate."

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Think about it. The old guild as shown in the ORB episode has a Dr Venture, obviously Rusty's grandfather. It also has Sandow, who is similar to Brock. We have Crowley, who might just be the same person as Orpheus (master necromancer dodging death is not that much of a stretch), if not his grandfather. We have Samuel Clemens[=/=]Creator/MarkTwain, dressed all in white with albino hair, an openly gay sarcastic yet cheerful Creator/OscarWilde, French pulp villain Fantomas...Fantômas... The parallels are all over the place.
* With the exception of Fantomas/Phantom Fantômas/Phantom Limb, it appears that the connections are spiritual/allegorical rather than literal. In any case, Orpheus is a much nicer person than the real Crowley seemed to be.
* It was already confirmed that Phantom Limb is the descendant of Fantomas Fantômas in "The Invisible Hand Of Fate."of Fate".



These characters all have established history both personal, such as Rusty, Billy, Pete and the Monarch attending college together with Professor Impossible and the Phantom Limb (I think) teaching or The Monarch being [[spoiler:a henchman to the Phantom Limb]], and familial such as [[spoiler:Jonas Venture Sr. being best friends with the Monarchs dad]], [[spoiler:The Phantom Limb]] and Richard Impossible being in Jonas' boys brigade or [[spoiler:The Venture Bro's great-great grandfather]], The Phantom Limb's [[{{Fantomas}} grandfather]] and Red Mantle and Dragoon's grandparents forming the guild of calamitous intent. It would make sense if they were all longtime family friends.

[[WMG: David Bowie was lying about {{Fantomas}} [[spoiler:usurping Loyd Ventre]]]]

If my theory above about Fantomas and Loyd being family friends is right then it seems unlikely he would do this in reality the sovereign was lying because in reality he came to earth a lot longer than the 70's and usurped the guild himself running it for many years changing names and faces every time he was found out until finally settling on a 70's era David Bowie.

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These characters all have established history both personal, such as Rusty, Billy, Pete and the Monarch attending college together with Professor Impossible and the Phantom Limb (I think) teaching or The Monarch being [[spoiler:a henchman to the Phantom Limb]], and familial such as [[spoiler:Jonas Venture Sr. being best friends with the Monarchs dad]], [[spoiler:The Phantom Limb]] and Richard Impossible being in Jonas' boys brigade or [[spoiler:The Venture Bro's great-great grandfather]], The Phantom Limb's [[{{Fantomas}} [[Literature/{{Fantomas}} grandfather]] and Red Mantle and Dragoon's grandparents forming the guild of calamitous intent. It would make sense if they were all longtime family friends.

[[WMG: David Bowie was lying about {{Fantomas}} Literature/{{Fantomas}} [[spoiler:usurping Loyd Ventre]]]]

If my theory above about Fantomas Fantômas and Loyd being family friends is right then it seems unlikely he would do this in reality the sovereign was lying because in reality he came to earth a lot longer than the 70's and usurped the guild himself running it for many years changing names and faces every time he was found out until finally settling on a 70's era David Bowie.
8th Jan '17 11:47:33 AM SeptimusHeap
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[[WMG: The Monarch's obsession with Dr. Venture is [[FreudWasRight sexually motivated]].]]

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[[WMG: The Monarch's obsession with Dr. Venture is [[FreudWasRight sexually motivated]].motivated.]]
7th Jan '17 2:47:36 PM DustSnitch
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* Perpetuating evil indirectly? Check. Signs contracts in blood? Check. Can give you anything you want? Check. More powerful than the series' most BadAss sorcerer, who can't even read the guy's mind? Seriously, how am I the first person to consider this?

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* Perpetuating evil indirectly? Check. Signs contracts in blood? Check. Can give you anything you want? Check. More powerful than the series' most BadAss badass sorcerer, who can't even read the guy's mind? Seriously, how am I the first person to consider this?
22nd Dec '16 6:56:44 AM DoktorvonEurotrash
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* {{Jossed}}. A battle did happen on board Gargantua-2, but it was in a special after Season 5, and [[spoiler:the Sovereign wasn't involved. The station did get destroyed, though.]]

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* {{Jossed}}. A battle did happen on board Gargantua-2, but it was in a special after Season 5, and [[spoiler:the Sovereign wasn't involved. The station did get destroyed, though.]]]] NOTE TO THE POSTER ABOVE: [[spoiler:The Sovereign]] was involved, but wasn't personally on the station.



It's quite possible the Inquisitor was actually going to grant humanity eternal chocolate and kittens before he was shot (and the fact that he never got to would fit in well with the theme of failure). He may have even given humanity weapons to fight off a future alien invasion from the other alien's people. The alien killed him in order to prevent humanity from advancing.

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It's quite possible the Inquisitor was actually going to grant humanity eternal chocolate and kittens before he was shot (and the fact that he never got to would fit in well with the theme of failure). He may have even given humanity weapons to fight off a future alien invasion from the other alien's people. The alien killed him in order to prevent humanity from advancing.advancing.

[[WMG: The Sovereign was another Investor who went rogue for some reason]]

He shared their traits of shapeshifting, vague but immense powers, and [[SharpDressedMan snappy suit]].
22nd Dec '16 6:51:43 AM DoktorvonEurotrash
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That man was [[spoiler: the Monarch's father, the Blue Morpho]]. After(or perhaps because) he killed him, Kano joined team Venture.

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That man was [[spoiler: the Monarch's father, the Blue Morpho]]. After(or After (or perhaps because) he killed him, Kano joined team Venture.
* Some prime FridgeBrilliance if this is true: when Kano was introduced to the boys in Season 1, he was described as having hands strong enough to crush a boulder, yet gentle enough to crush [[AnimalMotifs a butterfly]].



They have an interesting Romeo and Juliette thing going.

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They have an interesting Romeo and Juliette ''Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet'' thing going.
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