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8th Jan '17 11:47:33 AM SeptimusHeap
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[[WMG: The Monarch's obsession with Dr. Venture is [[FreudWasRight sexually motivated]].]]

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[[WMG: The Monarch's obsession with Dr. Venture is [[FreudWasRight sexually motivated]].motivated.]]
7th Jan '17 2:47:36 PM DustSnitch
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* Perpetuating evil indirectly? Check. Signs contracts in blood? Check. Can give you anything you want? Check. More powerful than the series' most BadAss sorcerer, who can't even read the guy's mind? Seriously, how am I the first person to consider this?

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* Perpetuating evil indirectly? Check. Signs contracts in blood? Check. Can give you anything you want? Check. More powerful than the series' most BadAss badass sorcerer, who can't even read the guy's mind? Seriously, how am I the first person to consider this?
22nd Dec '16 6:56:44 AM DoktorvonEurotrash
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* {{Jossed}}. A battle did happen on board Gargantua-2, but it was in a special after Season 5, and [[spoiler:the Sovereign wasn't involved. The station did get destroyed, though.]]

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* {{Jossed}}. A battle did happen on board Gargantua-2, but it was in a special after Season 5, and [[spoiler:the Sovereign wasn't involved. The station did get destroyed, though.]]]] NOTE TO THE POSTER ABOVE: [[spoiler:The Sovereign]] was involved, but wasn't personally on the station.



It's quite possible the Inquisitor was actually going to grant humanity eternal chocolate and kittens before he was shot (and the fact that he never got to would fit in well with the theme of failure). He may have even given humanity weapons to fight off a future alien invasion from the other alien's people. The alien killed him in order to prevent humanity from advancing.

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It's quite possible the Inquisitor was actually going to grant humanity eternal chocolate and kittens before he was shot (and the fact that he never got to would fit in well with the theme of failure). He may have even given humanity weapons to fight off a future alien invasion from the other alien's people. The alien killed him in order to prevent humanity from advancing.advancing.

[[WMG: The Sovereign was another Investor who went rogue for some reason]]

He shared their traits of shapeshifting, vague but immense powers, and [[SharpDressedMan snappy suit]].
22nd Dec '16 6:51:43 AM DoktorvonEurotrash
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That man was [[spoiler: the Monarch's father, the Blue Morpho]]. After(or perhaps because) he killed him, Kano joined team Venture.

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That man was [[spoiler: the Monarch's father, the Blue Morpho]]. After(or After (or perhaps because) he killed him, Kano joined team Venture.
* Some prime FridgeBrilliance if this is true: when Kano was introduced to the boys in Season 1, he was described as having hands strong enough to crush a boulder, yet gentle enough to crush [[AnimalMotifs a butterfly]].



They have an interesting Romeo and Juliette thing going.

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They have an interesting Romeo and Juliette ''Theatre/RomeoAndJuliet'' thing going.
27th Nov '16 3:40:46 AM ApeAccount
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** Alternatively he may have locked them up and they were [[IAmAHumanitarian eaten]] [[spoiler:like all his other prisoners.]]

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** Alternatively he may have locked them up and they were [[IAmAHumanitarian eaten]] [[spoiler:like all his other prisoners.]]]]

[[WMG: The Grand Galactic Inquisitor was actually a good guy]]

I realise this is quite an old topic to bring up but it just occurred to me after rewatching "Twenty Years to Midnight". At the end of the episode, an alien disguised as Jonas Venture killed The Grand Galactic Inquisitor insisting that he would have destroyed all life on Earth. This apparently fulfilled a twenty year old prediction that the portal needed to be used at that exact time to save the Earth.

The thing is, the Inquisitor hadn't demonstrated any malevolent intention (he even seemed to take the time out of his day to care for a lost baby). Not only that, the source of this prediction was a message Jonas got from space which an evil alien could have sent just as easily as a good one. Even then, given we have an alien which specifically could impersonate Jonas for all we know that wasn't even Jonas on the tape.

It's quite possible the Inquisitor was actually going to grant humanity eternal chocolate and kittens before he was shot (and the fact that he never got to would fit in well with the theme of failure). He may have even given humanity weapons to fight off a future alien invasion from the other alien's people. The alien killed him in order to prevent humanity from advancing.
1st Oct '16 9:04:21 PM trapdisc
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*** In "Powerless In The Face of Death", Rusty strongly implies that the woman he lost his virginity to was very unattractive ("You didn't even see her. It was horrific."). If she was the boy's mother, it's very unlikely he'd choose to fantasize about her when he had so many other options to choose from.
13th Jul '16 6:17:11 PM MattP5557
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**The monarch was raised by butterfly's he's still finding out about his family if he had any cousins he probably wouldn't know about them also the fitchels are definitley lower class.




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*** [[spoiler:He did but he didn't survive the one after that.]]



**** Is he leading the investors or are they leading him.
**** If this is true and the "alien" from "Twenty Years To Midnight was [[spoiler:actualy him, why did he really kill the The Grand Galactic Inquisitor.]]




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* In season six it is revealed that[[spoiler: the monarchs father is a GreenHornet {{Expy}} who was freinds with Jonas Venture]] it was implied that they were swingers so it could be possible that [[spoiler:The Blue Morpho]] was believed to be his father but [[MamasBabyPapasMaybe his biological father is actually]] Jonas Venture Sr.




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* Maybe he's every version of TheMaster.




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*** There are lots of super hero's appearing in season 6.




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** [[spoiler:No it won't he's already dead.]]




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** Or he was Badhorse.



Both organizations have been weakened over the course of the series. The Guild already experienced two attempted coups (a la Phantom Limb) and their greatest weapon, the ORB, [[spoiler: no longer works]]. OSI, meanwhile, has become corrupt, causing some of their most competent agents to defect [[spoiler: and form SPHINX]]. The Venture family, which is symbolically important to both groups, is dying out (since J.J. has no children and [[spoiler: the cloning process has damaged Hank and Deanâs DNA to the point where they can no longer produce any viable heirs]]). Many of the big names of the series (Henry Killinger, The Sovereign/[[spoiler: David Bowie]], Hunter Gathers, The Master, etc.) [[GambitRoulette have been actively working to achieve and orcastrated the entire series to this end.]]

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Both organizations have been weakened over the course of the series. The Guild already experienced two attempted coups (a la Phantom Limb) and their greatest weapon, the ORB, [[spoiler: no longer works]]. OSI, meanwhile, has become corrupt, causing some of their most competent agents to defect [[spoiler: and form SPHINX]]. The Venture family, which is symbolically important to both groups, is dying out (since J.J. has no children and [[spoiler: the cloning process has damaged Hank and Deanâs Dean's DNA to the point where they can no longer produce any viable heirs]]). Many of the big names of the series (Henry Killinger, The Sovereign/[[spoiler: David Bowie]], Hunter Gathers, The Master, etc.) [[GambitRoulette have been actively working to achieve and orcastrated the entire series to this end.]]




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*** {{Jossed}} His dad was [[spoiler:a GreenHornet {{Expy}}]]




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***Semi-{{Confirmed}} he dose try to restart Sphinx but it quickly falls apart.




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*** [[spoiler:{{Jossed}} their his brothers and he kills them.]]




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* [[spoiler:{{Jossed}} he's their brother and he killed them.]]



* How concerned should we be, though? Remember, in an earlier ep he showed Doc Venture how close he was to becoming a super-villain, thus bringing him back from the brink. Maybe he shows the RS the truth of the old saying, "Living well is the best revenge" and they quietly disband (or at the very least, drop their schemes against the GoCI).

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* How concerned should we be, though? Remember, in an earlier ep he showed Doc Venture how close he was to becoming a super-villain, thus bringing him back from the brink. Maybe he shows the RS the truth of the old saying, "Living well is the best revenge" and they quietly disband (or at the very least, drop their schemes against the GoCI).==GoCI==).




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*** Confirmed his intention was to reform the council of 13.




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*Confirmed.




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** When he appeared with the monarchs dad in a video in season six they both came of as jerkasses so probably not the case




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** Maybe the whole Venture Bros universe is something Dr. Kreiger built in his lab.




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** What do you mean [[spoiler:the sovereign was very much involved.]]


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**{{Jossed}} it was a mojor part of the season.


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** A {{Crossover}} with something (Hopefully)


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{{Jossed}}


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** Who's to say that was the only time it happened.
13th Jul '16 12:32:07 PM MattP5557
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At some point, Dr. Venture will embrace his super-villain potential, and Hank and Dean will be his chosen opponents. Brock will probably serve as his Dragon (to keep Rusty from going too crazy in his villainy), while Hatred will be the BattleButler to the boys (to make sure they don't forget their responsibilities as science heroes). Like all things Venture Bros., this will be a mix of funny, heartwarming, tearjerker and squick. Heartwarming because Dr. Venture really does care for his sons, and if he's arching them then that means someone else- someone who won't hold back- will have to keep out of it, per Guild bylines. Tearjerker because the Venture family is still trapped in the same crazy, horrible, heart-rending world they've all grown sick of, and they were never able to escape it. And Squick because of all the terrible, terrible Freudian implications.

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At some point, Dr. Venture will embrace his super-villain potential, and Hank and Dean will be his chosen opponents. Brock will probably serve as his Dragon (to keep Rusty from going too crazy in his villainy), while Hatred will be the BattleButler to the boys (to make sure they don't forget their responsibilities as science heroes). Like all things Venture Bros., this will be a mix of funny, heartwarming, tearjerker and squick. Heartwarming because Dr. Venture really does care for his sons, and if he's arching them then that means someone else- someone who won't hold back- will have to keep out of it, per Guild bylines. Tearjerker because the Venture family is still trapped in the same crazy, horrible, heart-rending world they've all grown sick of, and they were never able to escape it. And Squick because of all the terrible, terrible Freudian implications.implications.

[[WMG: The Groovie Gang are what Mystery Incorporated would have become if they hadn't defeated [[WesternAnimation/ScoobyDooMysteryIncorporated the Evil Entity]]]]

In the GrandFinale of Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated it was shown that getting rid of The Nibiru entity made the world LighterAndSofter so it stands to reason that if they hadn't defeated it then it would of corrupted them into sociopathic echo's of their former selves. Then once it was fineshed with them it moved on and did the same thing with The Franchise/FantasticFour, WesternAnimation/JonnyQuest, Franchise/TheHardyBoys and probably many others creating the CrapsackWorld of the venture bros.

[[WMG: Before Jonas Venture Sr's "Original Team Venture" there was one or possibly many other team venture's featuring the ancestors of the ventures, The Monarch, The Phantom Limb, Professor Impossible, Pete White, Billy Quizbody, Red Mantle and Dragoon]]

These characters all have established history both personal, such as Rusty, Billy, Pete and the Monarch attending college together with Professor Impossible and the Phantom Limb (I think) teaching or The Monarch being [[spoiler:a henchman to the Phantom Limb]], and familial such as [[spoiler:Jonas Venture Sr. being best friends with the Monarchs dad]], [[spoiler:The Phantom Limb]] and Richard Impossible being in Jonas' boys brigade or [[spoiler:The Venture Bro's great-great grandfather]], The Phantom Limb's [[{{Fantomas}} grandfather]] and Red Mantle and Dragoon's grandparents forming the guild of calamitous intent. It would make sense if they were all longtime family friends.

[[WMG: David Bowie was lying about {{Fantomas}} [[spoiler:usurping Loyd Ventre]]]]

If my theory above about Fantomas and Loyd being family friends is right then it seems unlikely he would do this in reality the sovereign was lying because in reality he came to earth a lot longer than the 70's and usurped the guild himself running it for many years changing names and faces every time he was found out until finally settling on a 70's era David Bowie.

[[WMG: The Murderous Moppets are still alive]]

It seems weird that Henchman 21 would react so strongly to [[spoiler:killing Haranguetan when he already killed the moppets quite recently]] but since they NeverFoundTheBody it could be possible he couldn't bring himself to do it so that means they might come back.
**Alternatively he may have locked them up and they were [[IAmAHumanitarian eaten]] [[spoiler:like all his other prisoners.]]
17th Jun '16 2:00:55 AM PaulA
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This is pretty much a no-brainer, considering the remarks made by OscarCreator/Wilde, and the uniforms worn by the henchmen in the flashback. Maybe The Phantom joined forces with UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla after Venture Sr Sr's death, to create the modern guild.

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This is pretty much a no-brainer, considering the remarks made by OscarCreator/Wilde, Creator/OscarWilde, and the uniforms worn by the henchmen in the flashback. Maybe The Phantom joined forces with UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla after Venture Sr Sr's death, to create the modern guild.
17th Jun '16 2:00:12 AM PaulA
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Think about it. The old guild as shown in the ORB episode has a Dr Venture, obviously Rusty's grandfather. It also has Sandow, who is similar to Brock. We have Crowley, who might just be the same person as Orpheus (master necromancer dodging death is not that much of a stretch), if not his grandfather. We have Samuel Clemens[=/=]{{Mark Twain}}, dressed all in white with albino hair, an openly gay sarcastic yet cheerful OscarWilde, French pulp villain Fantomas... The parallels are all over the place.

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Think about it. The old guild as shown in the ORB episode has a Dr Venture, obviously Rusty's grandfather. It also has Sandow, who is similar to Brock. We have Crowley, who might just be the same person as Orpheus (master necromancer dodging death is not that much of a stretch), if not his grandfather. We have Samuel Clemens[=/=]{{Mark Twain}}, Clemens[=/=]Creator/MarkTwain, dressed all in white with albino hair, an openly gay sarcastic yet cheerful OscarWilde, Creator/OscarWilde, French pulp villain Fantomas... The parallels are all over the place.



This is pretty much a no-brainer, considering the remarks made by OscarWilde, and the uniforms worn by the henchmen in the flashback. Maybe The Phantom joined forces with UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla after Venture Sr Sr's death, to create the modern guild.

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This is pretty much a no-brainer, considering the remarks made by OscarWilde, OscarCreator/Wilde, and the uniforms worn by the henchmen in the flashback. Maybe The Phantom joined forces with UsefulNotes/NikolaTesla after Venture Sr Sr's death, to create the modern guild.
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