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16th Jun '13 3:09:46 AM TheOneWhoTropes
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* Situation resolved, sort of. They've replaced Eubanks with Rickey Minor. Clearly, NBC is hoping to use ''The Tonight Show'' to destroy ''AmericanIdol''.

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* Situation resolved, sort of. They've replaced Eubanks with Rickey Minor. Clearly, NBC is hoping to use ''The Tonight Show'' to destroy ''AmericanIdol''.
''Series/AmericanIdol''.
22nd Dec '12 6:45:54 PM azul120
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* The Jay Leno Tonight Show took a couple years to hit its ratings groove, which happened with the scandal-era Hugh Grant appearance. Before that, it was getting beat by Letterman.


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25th Aug '12 8:40:57 AM FELH2
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[[WMG:{{NBC}}'s whole fiasco of screwing with their late-night schedule was one big attempt at trying to prove there's NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity.]]

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[[WMG:{{NBC}}'s [[WMG:Creator/{{NBC}}'s whole fiasco of screwing with their late-night schedule was one big attempt at trying to prove there's NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity.]]



* If NBC were smart in this scenario, then they would have used ReversePsychology to ensure the public supports the guy they want to get the show. But this '''is''' NBC.
* During the final weeks of ''The Jay Leno Show'', Jay '''didn't have an agent'''. And when he was on ''Tonight'' the first time during the writers' strike, he thought he was still keeping the strike despite returning to the show because he was writing '''all''' his material. (Ironically, those were some of the better monologues of the late 2000s.) He could easily be a pawn here.

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* * If NBC were smart in this scenario, then they would have used ReversePsychology to ensure the public supports the guy they want to get the show. But this '''is''' NBC.
* * During the final weeks of ''The Jay Leno Show'', Jay '''didn't have an agent'''. And when he was on ''Tonight'' the first time during the writers' strike, he thought he was still keeping the strike despite returning to the show because he was writing '''all''' his material. (Ironically, those were some of the better monologues of the late 2000s.) He could easily be a pawn here.




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* Zucker did whatever [[Series/RedDwarf Mr. Flibble]] tells him to. (See above.) Well, until the Comcast merger the cable company's first move was to '''[[MomentOfAwesome fire Zucker]]''', specifically for causing this whole mess.
* Situation resolved, sort of. They've replaced Eubanks with Rickey Minor. Clearly, NBC is hoping to use ''The Tonight Show'' to destroy ''AmericanIdol''.

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* * Zucker did whatever [[Series/RedDwarf Mr. Flibble]] tells him to. (See above.) Well, until the Comcast merger the cable company's first move was to '''[[MomentOfAwesome fire Zucker]]''', specifically for causing this whole mess.
* * Situation resolved, sort of. They've replaced Eubanks with Rickey Minor. Clearly, NBC is hoping to use ''The Tonight Show'' to destroy ''AmericanIdol''.



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13th May '12 1:59:22 PM EarlOfSandvich
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...[[RedDwarf and he wears a gingham dress and carries around a penguin puppet called Mr. Flibble.]] It's obvious.

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...[[RedDwarf [[Series/RedDwarf and he wears a gingham dress and carries around a penguin puppet called Mr. Flibble.]] It's obvious.



* Zucker did whatever [[RedDwarf Mr. Flibble]] tells him to. (See above.) Well, until the Comcast merger the cable company's first move was to '''[[MomentOfAwesome fire Zucker]]''', specifically for causing this whole mess.

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* Zucker did whatever [[RedDwarf [[Series/RedDwarf Mr. Flibble]] tells him to. (See above.) Well, until the Comcast merger the cable company's first move was to '''[[MomentOfAwesome fire Zucker]]''', specifically for causing this whole mess.
26th Mar '11 2:23:20 PM WarioBarker
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[[WMG:{{NBC}}'s whole fiasco of messing around with their late-night schedule was one big attempt at trying to prove that there is NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity.]]

to:

[[WMG:{{NBC}}'s whole fiasco of messing around screwing with their late-night schedule was one big attempt at trying to prove that there is there's NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity.]]



[[WMG: Jay might have been able to protect his reputation if ''The Jay Leno Show'' has never existed, but {{NBC}} would've screwed Conan over anyway.]]
If ''The Jay Leno Show'' had never existed and Jay just got out of the talk show business altogether (or at least until his non-compete clause ran out), then people would not have blamed him for destroying the network, and they would not have resented NBC giving ''The Tonight Show'' back to him as much...

But Conan would still have lost his position. The ratings for Conan's run on the show were not bad; the ratings for ''The Jay Leno Show'' were not that much better than his. Unless Conan's ratings '''substantially''' improved over the last years of Leno's ''Tonight'', then NBC would still have kicked Conan off ''Tonight'' and replaced him.

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[[WMG: Jay [[WMG:Jay might have been able to protect his reputation if ''The Jay Leno Show'' has never existed, happened, but {{NBC}} NBC would've screwed Conan over anyway.]]
If ''The Jay Leno Show'' had never existed happened and Jay just got out of the talk show business altogether (or at least until his non-compete clause ran out), then people would not wouldn't have blamed him for destroying the network, and they would not wouldn't have resented NBC giving ''The Tonight Show'' back to him as much...

But Conan would would've still have lost his position. ''Tonight''. The ratings for Conan's run on the show were not bad; weren't bad, and the ratings for ''The Jay Leno Show'' were not that much better than his. better. Unless Conan's ratings '''substantially''' improved over the last years of Leno's ''Tonight'', then NBC would would've still have kicked Conan off ''Tonight'' and replaced him.
26th Mar '11 2:21:26 PM WarioBarker
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Sadly, NBC used InsaneTrollLogic to help improve ratings by causing such a controversial move by kicking Conan off ''The Tonight Show'', canning Jay's own show, and putting Jay back on ''Tonight;;.

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Sadly, NBC used InsaneTrollLogic to help improve ratings by causing such a controversial move by kicking Conan off ''The Tonight Show'', canning Jay's own show, and putting Jay back on ''Tonight;;.
''Tonight''.
26th Mar '11 2:21:07 PM WarioBarker
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[[WMG: {{NBC}}'s whole fiasco of messing around with their late night schedule is one big attempt at trying to prove that there is NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity]]
Sadly, NBC is using InsaneTrollLogic to help improve ratings by causing such a controversial move by kicking Conan off the Tonight Show, canning Jay's own show, and putting Jay back on the Tonight Show.

''The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien'''s ratings were starting to increase after this stunt was pulleds.

So, by screwing Conan out of the Tonight Show and getting Jay a load of bad PR, they're using those two as pawns for a publicity stunt.
*If NBC were smart in this scenario, then they would have used ReversePsychology to ensure the public supports the guy they want to get the show. But this ''is'' NBC.
* Note: Jay Leno, as of the final weeks of the Jay Leno Show, ''did not have an agent.'' And when he was on the Tonight Show the first time during the writers' strike, he thought that he was still keeping the strike despite returning to the show because he was writing ''all'' his material. (Ironically, those were some of the better monologues of the late '00s.) He could easily be a pawn here.

[[WMG: Jay might have been able to protect his reputation if the Jay Leno Show has never existed, but {{NBC}} would have screwed Conan over anyway.]]
If the Jay Leno show had never existed and Jay just got out of the Talk show business altogether (or at least until the noncompete clause ran out), then people would not have blamed him for destroying the network, and they would not have resented NBC giving the Tonight Show back to him as much...

But Conan would still have lost his position. The ratings for Conan's run on the show were not bad; the ratings for the Jay Leno show were not that much better than his. Unless Conan's ratings ''substantially'' improved over the last years of Leno's Tonight Show, then NBC would still have kicked Conan off the Tonight Show and replaced him.

to:

[[WMG: {{NBC}}'s [[WMG:{{NBC}}'s whole fiasco of messing around with their late night late-night schedule is was one big attempt at trying to prove that there is NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity]]
Sadly, NBC is using InsaneTrollLogic to help improve ratings by causing such a controversial move by kicking Conan off the Tonight Show, canning Jay's own show, and putting Jay back on the Tonight Show.

''The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien'''s ratings were starting to increase after this stunt was pulleds.

So, by screwing Conan out of the Tonight Show and getting Jay a load of bad PR, they're using those two as pawns for a publicity stunt.
*If NBC were smart in this scenario, then they would have used ReversePsychology to ensure the public supports the guy they want to get the show. But this ''is'' NBC.
* Note: Jay Leno, as of the final weeks of the Jay Leno Show, ''did not have an agent.'' And when he was on the Tonight Show the first time during the writers' strike, he thought that he was still keeping the strike despite returning to the show because he was writing ''all'' his material. (Ironically, those were some of the better monologues of the late '00s.) He could easily be a pawn here.

[[WMG: Jay might have been able to protect his reputation if the Jay Leno Show has never existed, but {{NBC}} would have screwed Conan over anyway.
NoSuchThingAsBadPublicity.]]
Sadly, NBC used InsaneTrollLogic to help improve ratings by causing such a controversial move by kicking Conan off ''The Tonight Show'', canning Jay's own show, and putting Jay back on ''Tonight;;.

''The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien''[='s=] ratings were starting to increase after this stunt was pulled, so by screwing Conan out of ''Tonight'' and getting Jay a load of bad PR, they're using those two as pawns for a publicity stunt.
*
If NBC were smart in this scenario, then they would have used ReversePsychology to ensure the public supports the guy they want to get the show. But this '''is''' NBC.
* During the final weeks of ''The
Jay Leno Show'', Jay '''didn't have an agent'''. And when he was on ''Tonight'' the first time during the writers' strike, he thought he was still keeping the strike despite returning to the show because he was writing '''all''' his material. (Ironically, those were some of the better monologues of the late 2000s.) He could easily be a pawn here.

[[WMG: Jay might have been able to protect his reputation if ''The Jay Leno Show'' has never existed, but {{NBC}} would've screwed Conan over anyway.]]
If ''The Jay Leno Show''
had never existed and Jay just got out of the Talk talk show business altogether (or at least until the noncompete his non-compete clause ran out), then people would not have blamed him for destroying the network, and they would not have resented NBC giving the ''The Tonight Show Show'' back to him as much...

But Conan would still have lost his position. The ratings for Conan's run on the show were not bad; the ratings for the ''The Jay Leno show Show'' were not that much better than his. his. Unless Conan's ratings ''substantially'' '''substantially''' improved over the last years of Leno's Tonight Show, ''Tonight'', then NBC would still have kicked Conan off the Tonight Show ''Tonight'' and replaced him.



[[WMG: The entire late night fiasco is the fault of the head of NBC...]]...,
[[RedDwarf and he wears a gingham dress and carries around a penguin puppet called Mr. Flibble.]] It's obvious.

[[WMG: The network doesn't know ''what'' to do with the show now that Kevin Eubanks has left.]]
The interplay with Eubanks was the last funny thing about Leno's monologues, and it's been ''two'' solid weeks of reruns since Eubanks' last show. The ReTool going on behind the scenes must be frantic. Zucker's gonna ''reeeeally'' wish he'd stuck with Conan...
* Zucker does whatever [[RedDwarf Mr. Flibble]] tells him to. (See above.)
* Situation resolved, sort of. They've replaced Eubanks with Rickey Minor. Clearly, NBC is hoping to use the Tonight Show to destroy AmericanIdol.
[[WMG: Conan went into a coma when he hit his head.]] Everything that's happened ever since is his coma fantasy.

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[[WMG: The [[WMG:The entire late night late-night fiasco is the fault of the head of NBC...]]...,
]]
...
[[RedDwarf and he wears a gingham dress and carries around a penguin puppet called Mr. Flibble.]] ]] It's obvious.

[[WMG: The
obvious.

[[WMG:The
network doesn't know ''what'' to do with the show now that Kevin Eubanks has left.]]
The interplay with Eubanks was the last funny thing about Leno's monologues, and it's been ''two'' solid weeks of reruns some time since Eubanks' last show. The ReTool going on behind the scenes must be frantic. Zucker's gonna ''reeeeally'' wish he'd stuck with Conan...
* * Zucker does did whatever [[RedDwarf Mr. Flibble]] tells him to. (See above.)
*
) Well, until the Comcast merger the cable company's first move was to '''[[MomentOfAwesome fire Zucker]]''', specifically for causing this whole mess.
*
Situation resolved, sort of. of. They've replaced Eubanks with Rickey Minor. Minor. Clearly, NBC is hoping to use the ''The Tonight Show Show'' to destroy AmericanIdol.
[[WMG: Conan
''AmericanIdol''.

[[WMG:Conan
went into a coma when he hit his head.]] ]]
Everything that's happened ever since is his coma fantasy.
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