History WMG / TheSwanPrincess

15th Oct '17 6:36:04 PM ChaoticNovelist
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Furthermore, the reason they send him to the castle so often with flowers as a gift is not ''just'' because they want him to have fun with a friend. It's because they know that he will keep the local princess and royal heir save from Templar aggression and/or corruption. Notice how quickly he accepts Alise's offer to "be a spy" in ''Royally Undercover'' when he previously showed reluctance to share her company. He's definitely thinking, "I'm already a spy". There's more evidence to be found in his day job, "tulip farmer". It is the perfect cover for growing other plants, such as Datura, which is used in poison bombs.



During the first song, the servants call out "Such a powerful and magic potion!!!" when Derek and Odette finally show genuine interest in each other. This could just be taken as a metaphor for the emotions they're feeling, but it's possible that William and Uberta have been ''literally'' giving secret love potions to Derek and Odette by TamperingWithFoodAndDrink. However, the two are so adverse to being together that they [[HeroicWillpower resist the effects of the potions for years]], until they finally can't take it anymore and simply give in. Because they overdosed for years on the potion, however, it doesn't wear off, and instead [[MindRape permanently alters]] [[NotHimself their personalities]]. Derek becoming more sensitive and less of a jerk while Odette becoming more feminine and displaying more of the [[PluckyGirl traits that]] [[AllLovingHero Derek likes]] are both the results of the Forbidden Arts, rather than their natural development. This also explains why Derek was much more reluctant about the relationship than Odette--he was physically bigger and heavier, and thus required a stronger dose for the same effect.

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During the first song, the servants call out "Such a powerful and magic potion!!!" when Derek and Odette finally show genuine interest in each other. This could just be taken as a metaphor for the emotions they're feeling, but it's possible that William and Uberta have been ''literally'' giving secret love potions to Derek and Odette by TamperingWithFoodAndDrink. However, the two are so adverse to being together that they [[HeroicWillpower resist the effects of the potions for years]], until they finally can't take it anymore and simply give in. Because they overdosed for years on the potion, however, it doesn't wear off, and instead [[MindRape permanently alters]] [[NotHimself their personalities]]. Derek becoming more sensitive and less of a jerk while Odette becoming more feminine and displaying more of the [[PluckyGirl traits that]] [[AllLovingHero Derek likes]] are both the results of the Forbidden Arts, LovePotion, rather than their natural development. This also explains why Derek was much more reluctant about the relationship than Odette--he was physically bigger and heavier, and thus required a stronger dose for the same effect.
3rd Oct '17 8:37:41 PM Temporary14
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During the first song, the servants call out "Such a powerful and magic potion!!!" when Derek and Odette finally show genuine interest in each other. This could just be taken as a metaphor for the emotions they're feeling, but it's possible that William and Uberta have been ''literally'' giving secret love potions to Derek and Odette by TamperingWithFoodAndDrink. However, the two are so adverse to being together that they [[HeroicWillpower resist the effects of the potions for years]], until they finally can't take it anymore and simply give in. Because they overdosed for years on the potion, however, it doesn't wear off, and instead [[MindRape permanently alters]] [[NotHimself their personalities]]. Derek becoming more sensitive and less of a jerk while Odette becoming more feminine and displaying more of the [[PluckyGirl traits that]] [[AllLovingHero Derek likes]] are both the results of the Forbidden Arts, rather than their natural development.

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During the first song, the servants call out "Such a powerful and magic potion!!!" when Derek and Odette finally show genuine interest in each other. This could just be taken as a metaphor for the emotions they're feeling, but it's possible that William and Uberta have been ''literally'' giving secret love potions to Derek and Odette by TamperingWithFoodAndDrink. However, the two are so adverse to being together that they [[HeroicWillpower resist the effects of the potions for years]], until they finally can't take it anymore and simply give in. Because they overdosed for years on the potion, however, it doesn't wear off, and instead [[MindRape permanently alters]] [[NotHimself their personalities]]. Derek becoming more sensitive and less of a jerk while Odette becoming more feminine and displaying more of the [[PluckyGirl traits that]] [[AllLovingHero Derek likes]] are both the results of the Forbidden Arts, rather than their natural development. This also explains why Derek was much more reluctant about the relationship than Odette--he was physically bigger and heavier, and thus required a stronger dose for the same effect.
22nd Sep '17 11:00:41 PM Temporary14
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[[WMG: Derek and Odette's relationship is the result of a LovePotion]]
During the first song, the servants call out "Such a powerful and magic potion!!!" when Derek and Odette finally show genuine interest in each other. This could just be taken as a metaphor for the emotions they're feeling, but it's possible that William and Uberta have been ''literally'' giving secret love potions to Derek and Odette by TamperingWithFoodAndDrink. However, the two are so adverse to being together that they [[HeroicWillpower resist the effects of the potions for years]], until they finally can't take it anymore and simply give in. Because they overdosed for years on the potion, however, it doesn't wear off, and instead [[MindRape permanently alters]] [[NotHimself their personalities]]. Derek becoming more sensitive and less of a jerk while Odette becoming more feminine and displaying more of the [[PluckyGirl traits that]] [[AllLovingHero Derek likes]] are both the results of the Forbidden Arts, rather than their natural development.
16th Sep '17 4:12:44 PM ChaoticNovelist
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[[WMG: Lucas' family is related to [[Franchise/AssassinsCreed The Brotherhood of Assassins]]]]
Look at the skillset Lucas has: surviving easily in a forest, hiding so thoroughly from enemies with [[SuperSenses super hearing]] that they don't even know they share an island, and jumping from tree to tree as if he were a scullion. The only thing he's missing is a Hidden Blade. Also, it is not said ''how'' Lucas' father received his injury. That's because it was during an Assassin mission, which is naturally hush-hush. The reason the three of them lived in a wagon is because of these missions.
10th Sep '17 7:17:17 PM ChaoticNovelist
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14th Jul '17 9:34:22 AM ScroogeMacDuck
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3rd Jul '17 9:14:30 PM Stevebob
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[[WMG: Odette's mother died in childbirth]]
Odette’s mother is [[MissingMom never seen or mentioned]], not even at the celebration celebrating her daughter’s birth. This is because she [[DeathByChildbirth died either during or shortly after Odette’s birth]]. Notably, the midwife hands new-born Odette to her father right away, rather than keeping her with her mother. Was this solely so that William could present his heir to the kingdom, or could it also have been because his wife was too ill after a traumatic birth to hold her daughter? This could also explain why Odette looks like a ThreeMonthOldNewborn at the celebration – she actually ''is'' several months old already, with kingdom holding off the celebration until they’d finished mourning for the queen.
24th Oct '16 8:32:40 PM ChaoticNovelist
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''A Royal Family Tale'' states that "the Swan Princess" will usher in "an Age of Goodness". Indeed, just Odette being born caused the Forbidden Arts such pain that it retreated to its orb and was so terribly weakened that it couldn't take direct action for decades. Just by being alive, Odette drastically decreased the power of evil. Now recall that all of the villains in every movie are in some way connected to the Forbidden Arts; either practioners of it or their minions. This leads to the main guess: the only evil people in the setting post-Odette's birth have been [[TheCorruption corrupted by the Forbidden Arts]] and for this neither the king nor queen of two separate kingdoms saw a need for guards. After all, why would anyone need guards in an "Age of Goodness?"

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''A Royal Family Tale'' states that "the Swan Princess" will usher in "an Age of Goodness". Indeed, just Odette being born caused the Forbidden Arts such pain that it retreated to its orb and was so terribly weakened that it couldn't take direct action for decades. Just by being alive, Odette drastically decreased the power of evil. Now recall that all of the villains in every movie are in some way connected to the Forbidden Arts; either practioners of it or their minions. This leads to the main guess: the only evil people in the setting post-Odette's birth have been [[TheCorruption corrupted by the Forbidden Arts]] and for this reason neither the king nor queen of two separate kingdoms saw a need for guards. After all, why would anyone need guards in an "Age of Goodness?"
22nd Aug '16 12:46:14 PM ChaoticNovelist
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[[WMG: Why there are never any guards in the castle]]
We never see guards in the castle. Clavius can basically walk in and lock Odette into a room inside the castle and no one stops him; this is before he has the power of the Forbidden Arts. All the castle servants are just that, servants; cooks, cleaners, tutors etc. In ''A Royal Family Tale'', the flying squirrels fly in and immediately have the full run of the place. Why is this?
''A Royal Family Tale'' states that "the Swan Princess" will usher in "an Age of Goodness". Indeed, just Odette being born caused the Forbidden Arts such pain that it retreated to its orb and was so terribly weakened that it couldn't take direct action for decades. Just by being alive, Odette drastically decreased the power of evil. Now recall that all of the villains in every movie are in some way connected to the Forbidden Arts; either practioners of it or their minions. This leads to the main guess: the only evil people in the setting post-Odette's birth have been [[TheCorruption corrupted by the Forbidden Arts]] and for this neither the king nor queen of two separate kingdoms saw a need for guards. After all, why would anyone need guards in an "Age of Goodness?"
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28th Apr '14 5:01:11 PM Coujagkin
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Rothbart could have added another spell so that Odette would die if Derek had made the vow to the lackey who impersonated her, but he may have kept the original spell on Odette active, thinking that it would not come true at all at this point. What Rothbart might not have realized was that even though Derek thought the lackey was Odette, the real Odette's presence at the ball when Derek made the vow would still be enough to break the spell. It's also possible that the spell breaking would "cancel out" Odette's death (a la Beauty and the Beast), and Odette merely passed out rather than died in the scene before Rothbart and Derek had their battle.

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Rothbart could have added another spell so that Odette would die if Derek had made the vow to the lackey who impersonated her, but he may have kept the original spell on Odette active, thinking that it would not come true at all at this point. What Rothbart might not have realized was that even though Derek thought the lackey was Odette, the real Odette's presence at the ball when Derek made the vow would still be enough to break the spell. It's also possible that the spell breaking would "cancel "cancelled out" Odette's death (a la Beauty and the Beast), and Odette merely passed out rather than died in the scene before Rothbart and Derek had their battle.
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